LISTEN: Ex-wife details bizarre relationship between Alex Cox and Lori Vallow Daybell

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East Idaho News

East Idaho News

2 жыл бұрын

CHANDLER, Arizona -- A phone call released Thursday afternoon from the Chandler Police Department reveals a conversation between a detective and Alex Cox's ex-wife where she shares a bizarre relationship Cox allegedly had with his sister Lori Vallow Daybell.
Marriage records previously obtained by EastIdahoNews.com show Cox married a woman named Debbie in 1992. The couple divorced the following year, but when the Daybell case broke, she contacted a Chandler, Arizona detective who recorded the interview in September 2020. Debbie's last name was redacted in police reports and EastIdahoNews.com is not reporting it.
"There were so many crazy dynamics in that family," Debbie told investigators. "... It caused a lot of issues right away and it actually made me scared and nervous."
The ex-wife described a lot of inappropriate sexual touching between Cox and Daybell. According to the call and a Chandler Police report, Debbie said the brother and sister would simulate sex acts in front of her and the rest of the family.
"He also talked about (how she was) hot and he sexualized her quite a bit. He did touch her breast and things," Debbie said. "Alex and I only lived together married about four or five months. Then I just knew that family was too weird and that I made a big mistake so I got out."
Cox reportedly saw nothing wrong with the behavior and arguments ensued between him and his now ex-wife. Cox told Debbie he had a problem controlling his sex drive.
"While he and I were married he got excommunicated from the Mormon church," Debbie said. "... He was always really convicted in the faith, but where Alex is weak is he was just sexually promiscuous (and) he kept getting kicked out of the church because I think he was a sex addict."
Debbie reported she learned Cox slept with a 15-year-old girl and the teen's father began looking for him to take care of the problem on his own. She said there was "too much promiscuity surrounding sex in our marriage early on" and that played into their divorce.
The marriage between Debbie and Cox lasted only a year but the two maintained in touch for years, according to Debbie. She says the last time she spoke to Cox was shortly after he got out of jail for attacking Daybell's third husband, Joseph Ryan, in Texas.
In the years following the last conversation Debbie had with Cox, he shot and killed Daybell's fourth husband, Charles Vallow, in July 2019. Cox died in December 2019 in the months after his sister's two children 7-year-old Joshua "JJ" Vallow and 16-year-old Tylee Ryan vanished.
Investigators found Tylee and JJ's bodies buried in the backyard of Daybell's fifth husband, Chad Daybell, in June 2020.
Listen to the entire conversation with Debbie and the detective in the video player above.

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@cindyshirreffs2099
@cindyshirreffs2099 2 жыл бұрын
Debbie dodged a bullet by divorcing from this family! Good on you, Girl!
@karenandrews8695
@karenandrews8695 2 жыл бұрын
She had grounds.
@styphlynne8253
@styphlynne8253 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! It takes a Non-moormon to see the sickness and do something about it! smh
@maneckineckbeard1749
@maneckineckbeard1749 2 жыл бұрын
YES!! Truth! I was just about to write the exact same comment myself...same wording and everything!! 🤮🤢🤮🤢
@beckyk2917
@beckyk2917 2 жыл бұрын
For sure!! Smart, intuitive woman. That is why I say, go with your gut right off. That still inner voice that tells you, oh no don't do that!! We DO have an Angel and a devil on each shoulder don't we. Our free will in the middle. We get many chances and choices, but NO do overs.
@maneckineckbeard1749
@maneckineckbeard1749 2 жыл бұрын
@@beckyk2917 Well said! I always try to get that idea through to my kids: life is full of choices and consequences for your choices, both good and bad...but what life *doesn't* have is a rewind or reset button! And also that going with your gut can save your life...literally! (I'm actually almost 100% certain that going with my gut has saved my life more than once!)
@brynbailey7132
@brynbailey7132 2 жыл бұрын
This poor woman called THREE different agencies including the FBI and no one followed up. She finally got this guy to call her back. WTF. What is Lori's magic power that she gets away with everything?! This was disgusting to hear but I'm so so glad she had the courage to come forward and keep pursuing it when no one else would return her calls.
@hellodollyseniorvisitsandd4982
@hellodollyseniorvisitsandd4982 2 жыл бұрын
Covid leaving departments short handed… widespread protests leaving departments short handed
@rootzero
@rootzero 2 жыл бұрын
Pussy Control.
@robbymonaco3738
@robbymonaco3738 2 жыл бұрын
I went to FBI once in person to tell them about pedofiles in my building and they didnt want to hear about it.
@megsmann5414
@megsmann5414 2 жыл бұрын
She is a blonde woman
@merricat3025
@merricat3025 2 жыл бұрын
You go to local police to report that
@eh1702
@eh1702 Жыл бұрын
So Alex once TAZED Joseph Ryan. It makes ya wonder all over again about the heart attack that ended Joseph Ryan’s life.
@Val_Halla777
@Val_Halla777 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe how Chandler authorities let him off for Charles Vallow’s murder …total incompetence.
@mariadavis8745
@mariadavis8745 2 жыл бұрын
?
@Val_Halla777
@Val_Halla777 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariadavis8745 👍 name corrected
@aprilstorm
@aprilstorm 2 жыл бұрын
It was so ridiculous.. at the time I thought it was because of their shared religion but now I'm thinking just incompetence like you said..
@maneckineckbeard1749
@maneckineckbeard1749 2 жыл бұрын
That was truly, deeply shocking. I still have trouble wrapping my head around how that ever could've happened.
@McQuizzical
@McQuizzical 2 ай бұрын
I know, I don't understand that either, at the very least he should have received manslaughter charges.
@frankie1012
@frankie1012 2 жыл бұрын
Lori ruined so many lives. Literally. Her entire adult life has left a path of destruction and evil.
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 2 жыл бұрын
That statement is so true!! So sad!! 😞
@missycitty9478
@missycitty9478 2 жыл бұрын
The whole family sound like they are monsters.
@kateskeys
@kateskeys 2 жыл бұрын
Touche - well said.
@anniehoon
@anniehoon 2 жыл бұрын
But God. He is still on His throne and Lori will get her due.
@katherinebourne3813
@katherinebourne3813 2 жыл бұрын
That's way I see all of this I think she was doing awful stuff BEFORE Charles and Chad I think her first victim was Alex and I bet she spiked a drink or candy with something that mimics heart failure but occurs naturally in the body or plain gave it to him and told him to take it at a certain time. Hell she was even working her niece and if the nieces ex didn't put it together those kids and mother would no longer b around and at some point chads usefulness would end what I wonder plan did she have for him and who was next...
@alisasewell
@alisasewell 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if she realizes how lucky she is to be alive.
@wherethewildflowersare
@wherethewildflowersare 2 жыл бұрын
Of course she does....
@missycitty9478
@missycitty9478 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!
@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey
@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey 2 жыл бұрын
I would think it's crossed her mind once or twice...
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s not get silly and dramatic about this conversation! She wasn’t in any danger, not way back then, and probably would never have been! Cox hadn’t even beat anybody up at that point, according to her, and there’s no evidence that he killed anybody who was outside Lori’s immediate circle, and he never threatened her female friends. The drama of the actual murders is enough for a lifetime without injecting it with the fictitious thrill of additional danger and murder.
@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey
@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey 2 жыл бұрын
@@voraciousreader3341 are you for real? He hadn't murdered anyone yet so the 5+ people he murdered in the future... don't count? The point is that Alex was an unstable man who murdered, dismembered and burned a 16 year old girl who was his NIECE, his blood relative and if he's able to do that he's capable of anything. Your comment is insensitive, and ridiculous honestly. I don't like anything overdramatised but you are doing the opposite and minimising and downplaying the hideous crimes he did. He never threatened her female friends... did he threaten tylee, jj, Tammy or Charles prior to murdering them? Possibly Charles but unlikely the others were threatened, so what does that mean? Someone's not dangerous unless they threaten someone? Your insinuation that he never liked anyone outside Lori's circle and therefore he isn't dangerous to anyone else is crazy to me. I'm wondering whether your comment is purposefully trolling but if it's not, I think you need to reevaluate exactly what a MURDER is and what type of person Alex is and whether you'd let him babysit your children... because they aren't in Lori's circle so they'd be safe, right? 😳😬🙄
@lastlyfirstofall2833
@lastlyfirstofall2833 2 жыл бұрын
She wanted custody of the kids but yet ended up killing them. Sick bunch of crazies.
@lucielu1230
@lucielu1230 2 жыл бұрын
because it was all about power for her and not the kids :(
@lindaderouen8266
@lindaderouen8266 2 жыл бұрын
$$$$ The custody was all about the money she could get from their inheritance!
@gabrielapetunia1871
@gabrielapetunia1871 2 жыл бұрын
Money
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielapetunia1871 So sad isn’t it!? The love of money is the root of all evil.
@samanthaob87
@samanthaob87 2 жыл бұрын
Money and power is enough to turn most people cold, unfortunately.
@heatherwagar2898
@heatherwagar2898 2 жыл бұрын
This woman seems like a really good person. She actually makes sense
@heatherpike5230
@heatherpike5230 2 жыл бұрын
A rarity with this lot!
@styphlynne8253
@styphlynne8253 2 жыл бұрын
Right?! It takes a Non-moormon to see the sickness and do something about it! smh
@emma2370
@emma2370 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. Good for her for having strong boundaries and considering the environment she wanted her future children to be raised in. So many women would make excuses for the bad behavior or justify it to themselves.
@justinhealey2408
@justinhealey2408 2 жыл бұрын
She is a bible banger so i kinda thought she was a bit off at first, but no she is no way mixed up like these wackjobs.. I like her too and i hope she can find peace after all this insanity
@alvaroakatico9188
@alvaroakatico9188 2 жыл бұрын
I say she’s lucky to be alive. She knows that now.
@kathykardashian7750
@kathykardashian7750 2 жыл бұрын
Charles Vallow tried so hard to protect his children and died because of that. These are evil, evil people who killed him and many others.
@eh1702
@eh1702 Жыл бұрын
This lady is a grown up, well balanced person. No wonder she ran from that family after a few months of marriage. She had enough sense even as a young woman to know how dysfunctional and unhealthy it all was.
@isabellind1292
@isabellind1292 22 күн бұрын
Kind of like the Adelson family. The brother knew that his parents & siblings weren't a positive influence in his life and distanced himself for his own well-being.
@dianemason4215
@dianemason4215 2 жыл бұрын
I had suspected that Alex and Lori were "close", to be delicate about it. This lady on the phone sounds credible to me. Wow. I hope she gets to maintain her privacy.
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I believe her
@openmindz4628
@openmindz4628 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered as well. The majority of the family is a bit "odd".
@olderwiser64
@olderwiser64 2 жыл бұрын
Knew it. They had Circe & Jamie Lannister written all over them.
@jodi4384
@jodi4384 2 жыл бұрын
To me she sounds credible because there are times when she could pile on and say something way worse but appears honest and says just what she saw or heard.
@wallofyarn
@wallofyarn 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@macjrc
@macjrc 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s thank this lady for keeping on trying to do the right thing. Very brave. Hope you stay well
@thornepp6286
@thornepp6286 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t trust Zulema at all, her behaviour was extremely suspicious the day Alex died, I think she was just trying to cover her ass because she was worried about getting caught
@sparkyrunner4283
@sparkyrunner4283 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed it is amassing that the little lady has not committed Suicide yet due to the many expensive on going investigations that are necessary to determine if there were real people involved.
@maryogan215
@maryogan215 Жыл бұрын
@@thornepp6286 this isn’t Zulema it’s Alex’s ex not his widow wife Zulema
@eh1702
@eh1702 Жыл бұрын
@Thorn Epp This lady is Debbie, who married Alex 30 years ago and divorced him about a year later.
@JaneSmith0709
@JaneSmith0709 Жыл бұрын
@@thornepp6286 I totally agree with you about Zulema. Her entire persona doesn't sit well with me, but this isn't her, this is his previous wife.
@bugsea54
@bugsea54 2 жыл бұрын
They accuse Joseph of inappropriate behavior ,yet Alex is inappropriate
@d6187
@d6187 2 жыл бұрын
Projection
@wallofyarn
@wallofyarn 2 жыл бұрын
@@d6187 exactly.
@imasheepbahbah3591
@imasheepbahbah3591 2 жыл бұрын
Ha! Excellent point! Quite hypocritical but that’s what they do ….project on to you what they do themselves so the attention is off them so no would suspect… like when Lori had the gall to say Charles was cheating when it was really her doing that!
@RoseMary-851
@RoseMary-851 2 жыл бұрын
That seems to be the theme of their lives. Accusing others of doing exactly what they themselves are doing.
@sarabrant723
@sarabrant723 2 жыл бұрын
Colby Ryan Lori's oldest son psyche was in fact sexually abused by Joseph Ryan. I 100% believe him when he says he was abused by Joseph Ryan he cared very much about his brother and sister loved both of them dearly has no reason to lie about it he no longer speaks to his mother doesn't want anything to do with her I want hundred percent believe him when he says he was abused by Joseph Ryan
@Ludachrissy
@Ludachrissy 2 жыл бұрын
I am continually impressed by the incredible commitment that East Idaho News has had to this case. It’s so impressive and something you all should be proud of. From the digital team to the assignment desk to the editors to researchers to the producers to the reporters-thank you!!
@ruggedlyhandsome744
@ruggedlyhandsome744 2 жыл бұрын
Nate deserves a big pat on the back when these criminals are brought to justice. The world needs more honest, hard working reporters like him who aren't motivated by outside factors and personal gains. Kudos to you Nate, keep leading by example. 👍
@sitnspin1819
@sitnspin1819 2 жыл бұрын
@@ruggedlyhandsome744 Nate has been truly outstanding.
@Ludachrissy
@Ludachrissy 2 жыл бұрын
@@ruggedlyhandsome744show me a person who claims they don’t love Nate Eaton and I’ll show you a liar… 🙌
@billfisher4156
@billfisher4156 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely...
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they are doing a good job on this very strange case
@saracooper7904
@saracooper7904 2 жыл бұрын
Well this just keeps getting worse and creepier
@annabanna123
@annabanna123 2 жыл бұрын
This is the true crime case to end all true crime cases 😛
@saracooper7904
@saracooper7904 2 жыл бұрын
@@annabanna123 yep. Joe Ryan was murdered. I don’t know how, but he was. She’s like the black widow.
@saracooper7904
@saracooper7904 2 жыл бұрын
A little Game of Thrones twist
@lauren5160
@lauren5160 2 жыл бұрын
So true the more times goes by the crazier the next story is!
@iveliserojas612
@iveliserojas612 2 ай бұрын
They was having sex it why he beat all her ex because he was in love with own disgusting
@janetginty1847
@janetginty1847 2 жыл бұрын
I still believe Alex killed Joseph Ryan
@lindawilliams5638
@lindawilliams5638 2 жыл бұрын
I believe the sisters death was murder as well
@olderwiser64
@olderwiser64 2 жыл бұрын
100%. Joe Ryan. Charles Vallow. And Lori & Melani’s dogs. Tylee & JJ, Tammy and his sister Stacy.
@olderwiser64
@olderwiser64 2 жыл бұрын
@@lindawilliams5638 or he let her die when she needed medical help for her diabetes he wouldn’t call 911 & just watched her die cuz he’s a psychopath.
@HYPNOTOAD291
@HYPNOTOAD291 2 жыл бұрын
@@olderwiser64 like he did to Charles, and the same way his stepson did it to him - wouldn't give him CPR
@edgeann9028
@edgeann9028 2 жыл бұрын
💯💯
@annchirashi2457
@annchirashi2457 2 жыл бұрын
The Detective is absolutely stunned by what he is hearing but still kept his cool.
@krisjane-cp3jf
@krisjane-cp3jf 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a detective. It’s the reporter from Idaho News.
@mimimomo4902
@mimimomo4902 2 жыл бұрын
@@krisjane-cp3jf what ...wow. I thought its a detective too.
@Pamsmith59
@Pamsmith59 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, this is not Nate Eaton, but a detective in Chandler, AZ.
@2morrow789
@2morrow789 2 жыл бұрын
This detective is at a loss for words with the information Alex’s ex wife is sharing. Hard to believe considering a detective hears all sorts of crazy stories but this story is outrageous and despicable.
@gaysy1st
@gaysy1st Жыл бұрын
​​@@krisjane-cp3jf It's a Chandler, Arizona detective. It says so in the video information. She called them to report her knowledge about the family. Why on earth would she contact a reporter? She doesn't want recognition, she wants the police to make a note of the important information she has witnessed. Your comment makes her appear shallow, when she's not.
@olderwiser64
@olderwiser64 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Well at least one of 4 friggin agencies returned this woman’s call. That is just UNACCEPTABLE. Once this is all done there needs to be some real investigations, internal reviews, stand downs, and retraining, along with some head rolling. People died from this incompetence. Especially Tylee, JJ & Tammy.
@jenjennitrite8146
@jenjennitrite8146 2 жыл бұрын
I concur, vehemently!
@dortebas223
@dortebas223 2 жыл бұрын
And not to forget Charles
@Pamsmith59
@Pamsmith59 2 жыл бұрын
Read about how the Unibomber's brother made MANY attempts to relay info about him to the FBI and was ignored.
@olderwiser64
@olderwiser64 2 жыл бұрын
@@dortebas223 absolutely. But once Charles was killed by Alex, they should have locked him up immediately since he was already a felon for assaulting & threatening to kill Lori’s 3rd husband Joe Ryan who also happened to die under suspicious circumstances. If they had held him without bond & started investigating, then Tylee, JJ & Tammy might still be alive. And if Cristina Atwood & Nicole Earl had gone to the police back in the spring of 2019 before Lori & Alex killed Charles that July & told the police Lori had been crushing up benzodiazepines and putting them in his protein powder and that Alex said he wanted to kill him, maybe this would have turned out differently when Charles went to the police begging for help. But seriously, I doubt it. So horribly sad.
@pinklabprincess1997
@pinklabprincess1997 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. Had LE listened to Charles maybe everyone would still be alive
@cee073
@cee073 2 жыл бұрын
This poor woman. Watching the whole thing manifest itself has to be painful.
@wherethewildflowersare
@wherethewildflowersare 2 жыл бұрын
She is lucky to be alive! She knows that.
@CaliGirl305
@CaliGirl305 2 жыл бұрын
This case gets crazier by the day . I noticed strait away that Alex came across like a boyfriend who would do anything for Lori not an older brother . Absolutely creepy and weird . His former wife was smart to get out of the marriage the family dynamics are strange to say the least 😳.
@HYPNOTOAD291
@HYPNOTOAD291 2 жыл бұрын
could it be possible that Alex had molested Tylee, and that's why she was taken out? she said she slept with a baseball bat in her room when she was there with Alex, the same bat that Charles allegedly hit Alex with. I really hate thinking about it, but who knows what was going on in this crazy family.
@bethoneybee
@bethoneybee 2 жыл бұрын
Good lord, anything seems possible with these people!
@kevinhornbuckle
@kevinhornbuckle 2 жыл бұрын
It is a plausible theory. Alex previously had sex with a teen girl. Lori would not have had the instinct to protect her daughter.
@maisydaisy9216
@maisydaisy9216 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! Someone else has taken note of that comment Tylee made @the bat!! Thank you! She said she had a bat when she stayed alone at her uncle’s house in January so she could feel safer. The detective blew right on past that. That comment alone was what I kept assuming someone would dig into and find that the whole family had (has) dark, dark secrets, including sexual abuse - which would make complete sense - Lori has past trauma, no doubt, it’s obvious in all her behaviors. Alex may have been the perpetrator and/or victimized himself. And there’s a reason no one discusses Lori’s father.
@GlennaVan
@GlennaVan 2 жыл бұрын
Since everything came out (the children found), I have been very concerned about what Alex may have done to Tylee before killing her. This has not eased my mind even the tiniest bit in that regard. There has never been any question in my mind that she was dismembered and burned so cause of death, etc., could not be discovered.
@alicemorton9145
@alicemorton9145 2 жыл бұрын
😱YES😱
@froggiesilver22
@froggiesilver22 2 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe how much worse this case gets by the day. How are these people even real? It seems like a soap opera. I pray for peace and support for the innocent victims! Lori and Chad and Alex scare the crap out of me. True evil. It’s bone chilling
@janettraylor2489
@janettraylor2489 2 жыл бұрын
I was just saying this
@janettraylor2489
@janettraylor2489 2 жыл бұрын
East Idaho news is the best
@moimeself1088
@moimeself1088 2 жыл бұрын
@Non Descript everything doesn't come down to sex. Nowhere had this even been hinted at! 🤦🏾‍♀️ These people are drunk on religion, and it's making their inner monsters worse than they otherwise would have been, bc, you know, god.... 🙄
@susanwarren6547
@susanwarren6547 2 жыл бұрын
@@moimeself1088 NONE of this is about religion. There’s cult-type actions, definitely, but the rest of this mess is, I don’t know - just some kind of evil. As an added note, God is real, Jesus Christ is His son, who died for our sins, and it is through Him that those who believe and accept Jesus as their Savior, will spend eternity in Heaven. Prayers. 🙏🏼
@nedab1067
@nedab1067 2 жыл бұрын
giving me fred & rose west vibes
@jlrc3991
@jlrc3991 2 жыл бұрын
Truly there's some "Flowers In The Attic" sibling vibes with Lori & Alex. He seemed obsessed with her & she definitely used that to her advantage. Their whole story is just odd & super creepy.
@daisyunderwood1002
@daisyunderwood1002 2 жыл бұрын
Oh so true
@mamashanshan2772
@mamashanshan2772 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, oh my gosh, this is insane.
@roxyandlilo
@roxyandlilo 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, it's been years since I read that book, but you're spot on.
@westboundpony
@westboundpony 2 жыл бұрын
@@mamashanshan2772 I could picture the officer's jaw dropping at the same time as mine. He was as taken aback as I was...and I have been immersed in this insanity from day one. How am I still surprised by anything about this case, I do not know.
@jennxxo2623
@jennxxo2623 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly!
@iangallager4091
@iangallager4091 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most insightful interviews about this case . Glad the lady got out and rebuilt her life.
@cynthiawilson4500
@cynthiawilson4500 Жыл бұрын
The kids were missing for almost a year before they were found and lori kept saying they were safe and happy. Loris mom was protecting her. WOW.
@madeinussr7551
@madeinussr7551 25 күн бұрын
Well Lori's sister spoke up the other day and said they knew her as a good mother that's why they assumed the kids were ok. Once they were discovered her family flipped on her . I don't blame them too much for believing her at first
@pyrografix
@pyrografix 2 жыл бұрын
A more disturbing group of people would be hard to find. The family dynamics that Alex's former wife describes is extremely disturbing. To further substantiate many people's beliefs, the parents seem to be just as far removed from reality as Lori and Alex are/were. Now we have a pretty good idea as to how Lori got Alex to murder her husband and children & maybe Tammy Daybell too. Lori was probably allowing Alex to do more than just grope her if and when he did as she bid of him.
@C_Cpuffs
@C_Cpuffs 2 жыл бұрын
I strongly agree. As children I think they were exposed to some sort of sex and now they look at each other more then siblings, more of a protector. Alex did all of this for Lori. By the way Alex ex wife describes their parents they have always had mental issues.
@rescuelady4678
@rescuelady4678 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this informative video. Well done !🌺🐾
@ElviaJSoto
@ElviaJSoto 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. This is making a lot more sense after this phone call.
@1970karenleah
@1970karenleah 2 жыл бұрын
Plausible!
@lisabelle7553
@lisabelle7553 2 жыл бұрын
🤮
@alldoc9791
@alldoc9791 2 жыл бұрын
I have always thought Alex was “in love” with Lori. So twisted.
@karenandrews8695
@karenandrews8695 2 жыл бұрын
I thought he was secretly gay.
@aprilstorm
@aprilstorm 2 жыл бұрын
@@karenandrews8695 yeah I saw him being in love with Lori, and at times I saw him as secretly gay, he's so weird it's hard to understand who he really was..
@karenandrews8695
@karenandrews8695 2 жыл бұрын
@@aprilstorm he spent a lot of his old man's money going over to another country, spending it in the sex trade. I can't remember that other country. But then his friend liked him and he made no advances twords her. Was his comedian friend. Can't remember her name. She had given an interview. So I was thinking he was gay. But really I see he did have a sex addiction and, she is a very credible witness.
@brianhard1841
@brianhard1841 2 жыл бұрын
@@karenandrews8695 Alex flew often to Colombia for pleasure? He sent money to Colombia. Why might he do that?
@shelleyann2001
@shelleyann2001 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@kimqueen324
@kimqueen324 2 жыл бұрын
so, Alex and 15 year olds. Poor Tylee growing up in that cray.
@ivettelily
@ivettelily 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts.
@whitney2042
@whitney2042 2 жыл бұрын
Right AND she lived with him for a while.
@ivettelily
@ivettelily 2 жыл бұрын
@@whitney2042 omgsh poor girl
@styphlynne8253
@styphlynne8253 2 жыл бұрын
Right? Any of us growing up in that! took me years to get away! This religion does not allow for smoking, drinking, no wine, no coffee, no tea or coca-cola But their scriptures tell time & again to "Multiply and replenish the Earth" by their prophets,- smh sex, sex & more babies go figure the addicts!
@RoseMary-851
@RoseMary-851 2 жыл бұрын
Alex and Lori’s relationship has been sus since the beginning of this. The way he followed her everywhere she moved even to the same apartment building is unnatural for adult brother and sister. This case just gets more and more wild the more information gets released.
@JudeScott007
@JudeScott007 2 жыл бұрын
Zero boundarirs in the narcissistic Vallow home...
@quickchris10
@quickchris10 Жыл бұрын
Define normal. Middle of an infinite spectrum.
@lisadee0276
@lisadee0276 Ай бұрын
@@quickchris10who said anything about "normal"?
@quickchris10
@quickchris10 Ай бұрын
@lisadee0276 Well, by implication, Rosemarie's comment of "unnatural" implies there exists a "natural" brother-sister relationship, and I would just like a definition, please. I know many adult siblings that live near or with each other; maybe it's at the less-common end of the spectrum, but I think the main weirdness is that he probably killed for her.
@tr6888
@tr6888 2 жыл бұрын
I've always thought that their was definitely incest going on between Lori and Alex.
@tinybubbles263
@tinybubbles263 2 жыл бұрын
And the dead sister
@jennxxo2623
@jennxxo2623 2 жыл бұрын
Same!
@xanthippe_2695
@xanthippe_2695 2 жыл бұрын
Yep lots of family secrets
@valeriebumblebee7607
@valeriebumblebee7607 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinybubbles263 the sister is dead as well?
@ad8554
@ad8554 2 жыл бұрын
@@valeriebumblebee7607 that's what I'm saying. I'm in a rabbit hole with these videos and people keep ending up dead. 7 people now!
@honeybunch5765
@honeybunch5765 2 жыл бұрын
Her revelations on Alex's incestuous actions towards Lori does not surprise me one bit, I got Game of thrones vibes since day one. No way my brother even saw us naked as children let alone touching us inappropriately and vice versa, it's just unacceptable .
@maneckineckbeard1749
@maneckineckbeard1749 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, when she talked about them mimicking sex acts I wanted to 🤢🤮😭😱!! I honestly can't even imagine what I'd do if I saw my kids "playing" like that...but it sure as heck would involve an *immediate* call to a psychiatrist!! Ugh. I need some brain bleach, STAT!
@katherineharvey5663
@katherineharvey5663 Жыл бұрын
Alex had to die once she met Brad. He was showing signs of jealousy
@pommiebears
@pommiebears Жыл бұрын
Most humans have a built in yuck system that disallows sex with family members. Some scientists say it’s a familial smell that puts us off. It’s absolutely disgusting to even consider inappropriate things with family. Just awful.
@lilasfaves7846
@lilasfaves7846 Ай бұрын
I was often naked around my brother and vice versa… it was just innocent! Not when we were teenagers tho
@susanmiller6023
@susanmiller6023 2 жыл бұрын
I have to say how East Idaho News have never let this case down in anyway. If any news station or journalist deserves any awards it's East Idaho News and Nate Easton. They were there from the start and have never let us miss any tiny or insignificant piece of evidence. I'm from London UK and if it weren't for their coverage, I would never have known any of this.
@annehorrigan570
@annehorrigan570 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, they have done a great job of covering this case...hello from Michigan✌💚
@emilyflotilla931
@emilyflotilla931 2 жыл бұрын
They are spot on!
@mlwalston1
@mlwalston1 2 жыл бұрын
what else do they have going on?! cow tipping?!
@annehorrigan570
@annehorrigan570 2 жыл бұрын
@@mlwalston1 That only happened when Alex was alive. Ya know, he did it to play with their udders...🙃
@gemmag.2988
@gemmag.2988 Жыл бұрын
​@@mlwalston1 That's unfair.
@grammasgardenofideas5081
@grammasgardenofideas5081 2 жыл бұрын
i always thot lori used her sexuality to control him.
@blazefairchild465
@blazefairchild465 2 жыл бұрын
I think she uses it still with the lawyers, jailers one day she will try her smiles on a jury. Unfortunately so many have fallen for a person like this.
@tinybubbles263
@tinybubbles263 2 жыл бұрын
And other guys
@BackrowErnie
@BackrowErnie 2 жыл бұрын
@@blazefairchild465 So true- i can imagine her, 5 years from now, attempting to escape prison with the help of some prison guard who has been sucked in by Lori
@bjornholmqvist3230
@bjornholmqvist3230 2 жыл бұрын
Mee too
@peachespage2923
@peachespage2923 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. What normal brother would have killed her husband and the children. It only makes sense if she was sexually controlling him.
@hought121
@hought121 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, I never expected to find out Alex was previously married. Wow!
@Ludachrissy
@Ludachrissy 2 жыл бұрын
I only expected to find out he was married to Lori… some of the weird things he did to protect this woman are so twisted. I love my brother but we certainly don’t have a relationship like this. Ick.
@juliemitchell6037
@juliemitchell6037 2 жыл бұрын
Me either!! ⚖️💙💜😓💔🙏🕊️🤍🕊️🤍🕊️🤍🕊️🤍🕊️🤍
@raindancer2460
@raindancer2460 2 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness he never had children! He thought his behavior was normal! My head fell off and I had to put it back on. It appears that Lori Daybell projects A LOT!
@billfisher4156
@billfisher4156 2 жыл бұрын
@@raindancer2460 hahahahaha... Chad could reattach your head over a few text...
@blazefairchild465
@blazefairchild465 2 жыл бұрын
Poor lady thank goodness she got away after a few months.
@julietigermoon9572
@julietigermoon9572 Жыл бұрын
Smart woman to get out of that dysfunctional family.
@johannavanwinkle815
@johannavanwinkle815 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! I always thought there might be an incestuous relationship between Lori and Alex..... Their closeness was not normal!
@ninjazmbeegrl396
@ninjazmbeegrl396 2 жыл бұрын
ya I wondered the same thing too! guess our intuition was right after all!
@CaliGirl305
@CaliGirl305 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you a 1,000 % . Charles to me seemed like a really loving husband and father, also a great provider . Lori on the other hand is a Narcissistic witch who doesn't care about anyone . She ruined so many lives including her own, now she'll either get the death penalty or be incarcerated for the rest of her life .
@joycetheobald1717
@joycetheobald1717 Жыл бұрын
I got chills when she mentioned Alex being involved with a 15 year old girl. Poor Tylee was 16 when he murdered her. Being that her body was so destroyed, the evidence of any sort of S.A. was likely destroyed too. I wouldn't be shocked if that happened before they dismembered and burned her. To do that to a body, usually means some horrific things were being covered up and DNA needed to be destroyed. Jmo
@TheJennyfitz
@TheJennyfitz Жыл бұрын
Also that he said he was obsessed with sex and would get it anywhere he could and combine that with the fact that his family was okay with being sexual with each other. 🤢
@darkmoongoddess9791
@darkmoongoddess9791 Жыл бұрын
It's very possible something like that could've happened. Why would they go through so much work destroying Tylee & not do the same to JJ unless there was more to hide with her? Such a good point. This is all just so tragic.
@wendymccray8179
@wendymccray8179 Жыл бұрын
Hadn't thought of him abusing her first, but that does make sense now thinking of it. She probably put up a fight and went beyond just killing her, it became a crime of passion to dismember and burn her to destroy evidence as well.
@AleisterCrowleyMagus
@AleisterCrowleyMagus Жыл бұрын
The projection then on Joe Ryan and Charles Vallow of “abuse” makes total sense if Alex was in fact the SA - abuser. Deflection etc is very common with sociopaths and narcissists (Alex and Lori). I think it’s very likely that Alex was hurting Tylee (and given everything I have little doubt that Alex and Lori were…eeewwwwwwww)
@Kickhouse777
@Kickhouse777 Жыл бұрын
I knew that people suspected that Alex was sleeping with Lori but I did not think about Tylee what a sick P*rk
@jukie16
@jukie16 2 жыл бұрын
Okay so seems like Alex killed Joe Ryan too.
@caroljohanson2807
@caroljohanson2807 2 жыл бұрын
For certain yes they killed Joe and profited from his death also
@MaddHeather
@MaddHeather 2 жыл бұрын
I think so!!
@LyranPrincess6913
@LyranPrincess6913 2 жыл бұрын
Non Descript have always thought he killed her too. Sad so many victims :(
@kaydencegauthier3857
@kaydencegauthier3857 2 жыл бұрын
@Non Descript wow crazy
@karenandrews8695
@karenandrews8695 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@AmandaBabyyyyy
@AmandaBabyyyyy 2 жыл бұрын
Unbelievable…I always had a feeling something weird was going on between Alex and Lori, but to know it was going on openly in the family in front of their own parents…it’s just a whole other level of messed up. What the hell was going on in this family??
@howlingwaters2741
@howlingwaters2741 Жыл бұрын
Looks like you've answered your own question 🔥
@cerisewilson4088
@cerisewilson4088 Жыл бұрын
One of Lori’s cousins did an interview and alluded to the upbringing of Lori and her siblings having a lot of openly inappropriate behavior. Sounds like one or both parents were inappropriate.
@claireshields1003
@claireshields1003 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely disgusting. Lori &Alex pure evil. Sounds like SA was a normal thing in their family. I hope Lori and that 💩chad get life. I hope they get regular beatings. Hopefully someone will shave Lori hair off😂.
@stacyw.1863
@stacyw.1863 Жыл бұрын
Try to find the interview with Lori's cousin it will explain a lot about the background.
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad she's came forward and told us what happened
@Beana10
@Beana10 2 жыл бұрын
This may explain why Tylee had a bat when staying at Uncle Alex’s house.
@conniestone6251
@conniestone6251 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I’ve wondered all along why the police (or someone) did NOT thoroughly question Tylee about the bat! I mean, geez, IF my daughter or son had felt the need to have a BAT for protection while at their UNCLE’s house-- I’d sure not stop until I had good answers! (edited for missing word “not”…)
@anettas.1751
@anettas.1751 2 жыл бұрын
The house was not Alex. It was Loris husbands house.
@eleanorryanryan2442
@eleanorryanryan2442 2 жыл бұрын
Seems a lot of the Cox Family have no filter whatsoever, and anything goes... Janice was more interested how Lori looked, than her parenting skills.... The Family are totally disfuntional ... Now we know Janis and Barry have two psychopaths in the family... This woman made a lucky escape....Lori is still the master manipulator... There is So much information now to suggest that Joseph Ryan was murdered also by Alex and Lori... Hopefully in time all these innocent victims will seek justice... Regards from Ireland 🇮🇪
@sarahholt5575
@sarahholt5575 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!!!
@janetjohnson7279
@janetjohnson7279 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!! I believe that Lori and Alex killed Joseph as well!! You better watch out if ever coming in contact with Lori and Chad's minions. People are dying right and left.
@olderwiser64
@olderwiser64 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve always thought he killed Joe Ryan. 100%.
@AmiRa-wj9jt
@AmiRa-wj9jt 2 жыл бұрын
Hi from Poland. I absolutely agree with you, a woman who murders her children and husbands cannot come from a normal family. Just look at Lori's mother, she has as crazy eyes as her daughter.
@eleanorryanryan2442
@eleanorryanryan2442 2 жыл бұрын
@@AmiRa-wj9jt Hello Ami, as the information is coming out, we know Alex and Lori had a very strange sister, brother relationship?? Alex definitely wasn't all there and Lori manipulated him for her own gain... Because they both have PD, anything went... I do think Melanie Gibb is extremely vindictive and will use and abuse the situation to suit her narrative.... She is another one that has no filter, and had such venom for Tylee... And no understanding of JJ even though she has an autistic son herself... She seems to be a comple airhead but a dangerous one.... All these people lie so freely its astounding.... Regards from Ireland 🇮🇪💚
@disaffectednarcmagnet2305
@disaffectednarcmagnet2305 2 жыл бұрын
It's all starting to make alot more sense 😮
@gretaworship1989
@gretaworship1989 Жыл бұрын
This gal is so lucky she got away from this family!
@jenniferhansen3622
@jenniferhansen3622 Жыл бұрын
Indeed!!
@ginag6209
@ginag6209 Жыл бұрын
This is one of the wildest stories I’ve ever heard
@awalkthroughtorah6897
@awalkthroughtorah6897 2 жыл бұрын
I am thinking the first husband is thanking the Good Lord now he escaped from that mess.
@tiffanymoss3987
@tiffanymoss3987 2 жыл бұрын
years ago her first husband was found dead in his house and had been 2 weeks before anyone was aware …if I’m remembering correctly
@raindancer2460
@raindancer2460 2 жыл бұрын
Yep. And the second husband as well!
@brynbailey7132
@brynbailey7132 2 жыл бұрын
@@tiffanymoss3987 wait, what??
@brynbailey7132
@brynbailey7132 2 жыл бұрын
@@raindancer2460 I need sources! Whaaat??
@darlenewesley3617
@darlenewesley3617 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it was incestuous for sure
@juliemitchell6037
@juliemitchell6037 2 жыл бұрын
I've thought since the very start. That their relationship was wierd!! Lori and Alex made me think of a book I read "Flowers in the Attic"in the 80s. What a nice family! 🤮🤮 I'm so glad she called the police! This really tells about the Cox family! ⚖️💙💜😓💔🙏🕊️🤍🕊️🤍🕊️🤍🕊️🤍🕊️🤍
@jlrc3991
@jlrc3991 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I too have thought of Christopher & Catherine from the VC Andrews series when learning about the weird behaviors between Alex & Lori.
@itsjust_Q
@itsjust_Q 2 жыл бұрын
Omg me too!!!
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9 2 жыл бұрын
Yep me too
@ralphmajor1947
@ralphmajor1947 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlrc3991 it looked like that from the beginning it was quite obvious 😅 😂!
@lisaeischens2352
@lisaeischens2352 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading those books back I high school as well. They were so disturbing and to think that Lori and Alex may have had this kind of a relationship is beyond sick. I don’t doubt it with the way Lori acts. Some truly messed up people.
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9 2 жыл бұрын
I always said that there was a strange relationship going on between them. He loved her more than a sister and that's why he did the killings. I'm so glad his ex wife got out and didn't get involved with them and their beliefs.
@sarahholt5575
@sarahholt5575 2 жыл бұрын
This family is NUTS!! I really hope Adam and his family stays far far away from them!!!
@OhKayinAustin
@OhKayinAustin 2 жыл бұрын
This LEO is such an incredible and genuine active listener. It's easy to say well that's his job, but it seems like so many investigators have an idea of the way a conversation should go. He makes no attempt to direct or guide the talk. Impressive.
@gaysy1st
@gaysy1st Жыл бұрын
Well noticed
@quickchris10
@quickchris10 Жыл бұрын
``Leo?''
@river8760
@river8760 Жыл бұрын
So many people need to learn active listening.
@river8760
@river8760 Жыл бұрын
@@quickchris10 law enforcement officer.
@quickchris10
@quickchris10 Жыл бұрын
@@river8760 oh I thought you were talking about his zodiac sign maybe.
@JenniferFordEsq
@JenniferFordEsq 2 жыл бұрын
My question is: Who decided Alex had outlived his use to the Daybells, just before he died of “natural causes”?
@itsjust_Q
@itsjust_Q 2 жыл бұрын
I think Alex knew the cops were closing in and asked Chad to help him facilitate his death… in my opinion
@Guinevere.625
@Guinevere.625 2 жыл бұрын
I read this account: @Alex had said to a group of people that ‘the kids would never be found’ Shortly thereafter, Alex was dead. (It seems that Alex was going to be a problem. He knew to much and wouldn’t keep his mouth shut.
@bella3775
@bella3775 2 жыл бұрын
My money is on Chad.
@laurenecarter246
@laurenecarter246 2 жыл бұрын
My theory is Chud and Hori convinced him to be a martyr and Chud supplied the "stuff" and Zulema administered it. Zulemas reward was Alex's life insurance.
@MyTeigan
@MyTeigan 2 жыл бұрын
@Non Descript I think that yelling fight happened before Charles was killed.
@deelite5176
@deelite5176 2 жыл бұрын
I knew something didn’t seem right between Alex and Lori. A brother and sister should never act the way his ex-wife has describe them. I am surprise she was married to him as long as she was.
@dawnsarrach6612
@dawnsarrach6612 2 жыл бұрын
Forgive me who are Alex and Lori
@yvettethomas5533
@yvettethomas5533 2 жыл бұрын
@@dawnsarrach6612 Lori Vallow Daybell, Doomsday Cult Mom. Alex his her brother!!! You'll have to catch up on this one!!!😭😭
@Stacey0909
@Stacey0909 2 жыл бұрын
@@CMRBURE 🤣
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9
@6AlphaMikeCharlie9 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah and I think she's telling the truth, she's got no reason to lie. If she started telling it all on tiktok I'd find it hard to believe. But what would she get out of it
@JudeScott007
@JudeScott007 2 жыл бұрын
Lets not insinuate that she lagged too long in doing so thought (not to mean you did). Young people make mistakes and she made her move, and did so in only the time she could, and many, not so soon. Less than a year? Pretty quick!
@emilyflotilla931
@emilyflotilla931 2 жыл бұрын
What an amazingly well spoken witness! Bless her for coming forward!
@jjrr2273
@jjrr2273 Жыл бұрын
starved for media attention?
@gemmag.2988
@gemmag.2988 Жыл бұрын
​@@jjrr2273 Disagree.
@Rhombohedral
@Rhombohedral 24 күн бұрын
Hey Emily! its quite something. I heard this but I missed this interview! She got lucky.....!
@emilyflotilla931
@emilyflotilla931 24 күн бұрын
@Rhombohedral She did.. By the way, did you see that Roscoe crossed the Rainbow Bridge? Paul got back from CrimeCon, and he wasn't doing well, so he brought him in. 😢😢🌈
@OoMASEoO
@OoMASEoO 2 жыл бұрын
Telling his wife to abruptly pack up and move out of the state? I wouldn't be surprised if he's a serial killer and needed to flee.
@patgal2359
@patgal2359 24 күн бұрын
two years so you probably wont see this, but im curious too about the constant moving lori and alex did. were they committing crimes we dont know about yet and moving for that reason?
@deaddadclub8393
@deaddadclub8393 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like her poor brother Adam is the only normal person that came out of that family.
@brianhard1841
@brianhard1841 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Adam could well provide information on the relationships in the Cox family home?
@sweetcin777
@sweetcin777 2 жыл бұрын
Holy Crap! What was it like growing up in the home with Lori, Alex and their parents?
@krissiflaton9796
@krissiflaton9796 2 жыл бұрын
Creepy
@ralphmajor1947
@ralphmajor1947 2 жыл бұрын
@@krissiflaton9796😁🙂😉😇🙏
@dyanalynn6698
@dyanalynn6698 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a couple that does a podcast called Hidden: True Crime. They did a series called Beyond the Veil. He’s a forensic psychologist and in the series they break down the Cox family dynamics… it explains so much. And what he said about Chads role in everything that happened went way beyond what I expected. They put some of the episodes on KZfaq.
@sweetcin777
@sweetcin777 2 жыл бұрын
@@dyanalynn6698 I have listened to much of their stuff in the past. Haven't listened to that one though. thank you
@kevinhornbuckle
@kevinhornbuckle 2 жыл бұрын
It is almost a certainty that Lori was having sex with her father also. The parents encouraged the incestuous relationship between Alex and Lori. Approving incest without also partaking of it is virtually unheard of.
@Andy-ty2ni
@Andy-ty2ni 2 жыл бұрын
The Police officer did a really good job in this interview it seems to me!
@judiashley5818
@judiashley5818 2 жыл бұрын
Except they did nothing about Lori and alex
@MyTeigan
@MyTeigan 2 жыл бұрын
@@judiashley5818 What were they supposed to do about Lori and Alex?
@lucyclark1301
@lucyclark1301 2 жыл бұрын
this interview is with the press, not the police
@SH-ue4fm
@SH-ue4fm 2 жыл бұрын
The video description says it was a police officer.
@carlamanrique8602
@carlamanrique8602 2 жыл бұрын
This recording is a true bombshell (not that it surprises me) anything is possible coming from those 2 very strange characters. The degree of insanity and dysfunction is just surreal 🤯🤯
@pokerdealer2003
@pokerdealer2003 2 жыл бұрын
East Idaho news should earn some rewards! Great reporting!
@julieraichart7961
@julieraichart7961 2 жыл бұрын
OMG! This just gets sicker and sicker
@dorenecollins4990
@dorenecollins4990 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!!! Extremely disturbing siblings and parent relationship! Very sad
@JL-zn7me
@JL-zn7me 2 жыл бұрын
This is very interesting. I always wondered if there was more going on between Lori and Alex than a normal sister brother relationship. If this disgusting and inappropriate touching was acceptable in their home, was this happening to Tylee and JJ? I know Lori said Joe was SA Colby and Tylee… could it have been her or Alex actually doing it, not Joe? Hearing Alex planned to start a fight with Joe and kill him in “ self defense “, that makes me sick- Lori and Alex had that idea long before they used it on Charles. What a disgraceful, sickening family!!!! I can only imagine what Colby, Tylee and JJ went through.
@Pamsmith59
@Pamsmith59 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful. Not hard to cry "sexual child abuse" by people who are themselves into it. This must be examined.
@summerbrightbright4602
@summerbrightbright4602 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that Joe Ryan was their first victim.
@neshmalifestyletv2737
@neshmalifestyletv2737 2 жыл бұрын
@@summerbrightbright4602 that we know about.
@JudeScott007
@JudeScott007 2 жыл бұрын
JJ and Tylee were prob whitnesses to murder and the,had to call them "dark" to justify their killing.
@Blackcatandjam
@Blackcatandjam Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget Charles, he was also taken out, and Alex said self defence.
@raggedyann4372
@raggedyann4372 2 жыл бұрын
Lori and Chad need to be in Prison!
@mobilemandy8495
@mobilemandy8495 2 жыл бұрын
They are duh
@justmepraying
@justmepraying 2 жыл бұрын
@@mobilemandy8495 I think she means that they need to stay in FOREVER
@solrsys
@solrsys 2 жыл бұрын
They are in prison!
@solrsys
@solrsys 2 жыл бұрын
@Tiny Princess gee thanks for that super friendly clarification. 👍
@mobilemandy8495
@mobilemandy8495 2 жыл бұрын
@Tiny Princess true
@judiashley5818
@judiashley5818 2 жыл бұрын
What a freaky family. Good thing she saw it and ran
@kristenkaz3080
@kristenkaz3080 Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad I found this recording. I had “weird vibes” about Lori’s “relationship” with Alex. I always thought there was something sexual & then I thought I was paranoid. Now I’m not so sure. Either way it’s WEIRD.
@sherylbarry9143
@sherylbarry9143 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe Alex was actually doing the abuse not Tylee's father?
@cherylwright9408
@cherylwright9408 2 жыл бұрын
Why did Tylee need a bat for security?
@jenniferclark9842
@jenniferclark9842 2 жыл бұрын
Her uncle Alex.
@Grandpa-potato
@Grandpa-potato 2 жыл бұрын
Whoa I never thought of that!
@SM-qc3zx
@SM-qc3zx 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably likely since incest and underage girls were already in his repertoire.
@jendee1260
@jendee1260 Ай бұрын
🛎️ 🛎️ 🛎️
@MichaelrennieG
@MichaelrennieG 2 жыл бұрын
We know now Lori survives by custody support and deceiving others, family included, mother, father, sister, brother, it's unfortunate that good fathers like Joseph and Charles were accused of the worst crimes in order to move the court systems in their favor.. It happens all the time and hurts the victims that truly are..
@Oceanrocks121
@Oceanrocks121 2 жыл бұрын
What was Charles accused of?
@jenjennitrite8146
@jenjennitrite8146 2 жыл бұрын
I concur 100 percent!
@MichaelrennieG
@MichaelrennieG 2 жыл бұрын
@@Oceanrocks121 Child abuse to get custody of JJ and Tylee
@Oceanrocks121
@Oceanrocks121 2 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelrennieG That was Joseph Ryan.
@rebeccabaker4485
@rebeccabaker4485 2 жыл бұрын
I think Alex killed the kids at Lori's request because Chad didn't want the kids and it would prevent. Tylee from telling the truth about Charles Hallows murder.
@karenandrews8695
@karenandrews8695 2 жыл бұрын
Chad knew and helped plan! He is hung and done too.
@lauracoleman8114
@lauracoleman8114 2 жыл бұрын
He also provided the burial spot. You can't tell me that you had no idea why someone was using your backyard to do what they did to those poor babies. I'd have noticed things were changed. Also the whole raccoon story, while phones are pinging all over he place on the property. Im waiting to see how that is explained. On my dog ate the phone and ran around with it. I was really out walking the track with Lori while this was being done behind our backs.
@rebeccabaker4485
@rebeccabaker4485 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that Chad Daybell was totally involved in getting rid of the kids they were buried on his land .
@jenjennitrite8146
@jenjennitrite8146 2 жыл бұрын
Rebecca Baker and don't forget about the life insurance they collected on Charles and the kids! I'm very sure that had a big part in it also!
@rickwood3251
@rickwood3251 2 жыл бұрын
@@jenjennitrite8146 Luckily Charles removed Lori as a beneficiary and made his sister, Kay Woodcock the primary beneficiary.
@laurenecarter246
@laurenecarter246 2 жыл бұрын
My theory is Chud and Hori convinced him to be a martyr and Chud supplied the "stuff" and Zulema administered it. Zulemas reward was Alex's life insurance.
@cookie_dough_hangover
@cookie_dough_hangover 2 жыл бұрын
"Chad and Hori". I never NOT laugh at this! 🤣😂🤣😂
@jenjennitrite8146
@jenjennitrite8146 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@VictoriaCatLady
@VictoriaCatLady 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂@ Chud & Hori😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@charliebarrow7086
@charliebarrow7086 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my God! The topic is so tragic and sad and here is me laughing so hard about Chud%Hori. I feel a little guilty about laughing so much when so many people have lost their lives but I can't help it.
@BushaBandulu
@BushaBandulu 2 жыл бұрын
Zulema is responsible for Alex’s death
@AmiRa-wj9jt
@AmiRa-wj9jt 2 жыл бұрын
Applause for this lady that she quickly realized what her husband was like and escaped from this relationship alive. It isn`t hard to guess that in a healthy family a person like Lori would not have such an Ego. It`s obvious now what bond she had with her brother, I`m not surprised at all.
@olderwiser64
@olderwiser64 2 жыл бұрын
It’s so sad no one stopped this man. So many deaths. So many reasons to hold him without bail & charge him. Especially for Charles’s death after he’d already served time for a felony assault in Joseph Ryan’s case.
@Traceishere
@Traceishere 2 жыл бұрын
he was literally getting away with murder
@karlamarcellus4941
@karlamarcellus4941 2 жыл бұрын
Wow…he slept with a 15 year old. How the heck did he not go to jail for that?
@brynbailey7132
@brynbailey7132 2 жыл бұрын
He fled town and the parents didn't pursue charges? I wonder if it was reported. Doesn't sound like his wife reporter it until now.
@karlamarcellus4941
@karlamarcellus4941 2 жыл бұрын
@@brynbailey7132 Me too! The dad wanted to kick his behind, but didn’t report it to the police? I’m starting to think that the LDS church probably had something to do with that. I mean, he just kept getting excommunicated. I think this lady wanted nothing to do with him and his family. Imagine if they were already THAT weird. They probably would have made her life miserable for reporting him to the police. Grrr…
@robbymonaco3738
@robbymonaco3738 2 жыл бұрын
Alex's brother said that Alex would take his vacations and always go down to Colombia to get women. Wonder how many people he killed down there too.
@gramyhaze8195
@gramyhaze8195 2 жыл бұрын
The founder of the Mormon church , Joseph Smith married a 14 year old girl as well as many other teenagers, also mother and daughter pairs, up to at least 30 / 40 wome, including women who were already married (polyandry). This is the same weird religious cult that the Cox family belong to, so there you go.
@karlamarcellus4941
@karlamarcellus4941 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbymonaco3738 I remember hearing that too, but I don’t think it was from Adam. Can you imagine? I hope not.
@justanothersmith6012
@justanothersmith6012 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God she came forward to share this info with LE . I also appreciate that she didn’t discuss any of it through social media so it could be picked apart .
@carachantler2325
@carachantler2325 2 жыл бұрын
That story cant possibly get weirder. Oh no. There we go. It just did 😯
@laurelsheart
@laurelsheart 2 жыл бұрын
We really need more info if Alex’s sister was actually murdered. With that family I’m sure its possible. Sicko’s.
@sarahholt5575
@sarahholt5575 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure she was, I mean look at all of them ?!?!
@lindawilliams5638
@lindawilliams5638 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo
@alicemorton9145
@alicemorton9145 2 жыл бұрын
Stacey Cox I’m sure didn’t die from hypoglycaemia! Also her credit card was broken into by Alex! Great family!
@MissJensk1
@MissJensk1 2 жыл бұрын
@@alicemorton9145 Why are you? She could have done
@Juke582
@Juke582 Жыл бұрын
Great job bringing the news of this whole story to the public! Impressed!
@robinettbanister1236
@robinettbanister1236 2 жыл бұрын
IMO ... Tylee used her weight as a defense mechanism. To keep nasty Uncle Alex away and sounds like other family members too. She didn't want to be like her insane mother. She used it to rebel against her mother and possibly her grandmother and other family members. She didn't want to endure their "high standards" which likely caused Stacy's eating disorders and death. Look at how Alex treated Stacy as she was in her final days. This family is the model of dysfunctional.
@karenandrews8695
@karenandrews8695 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like stress eating. Look what she had been going thru since she was 2 or 3.
@deniseganey6890
@deniseganey6890 2 жыл бұрын
Wondering if life insurance was taken out on Stacy by the Cox family.
@ao73569
@ao73569 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the information behind this? I’m just curious cause I would like to read/watch it
@adambutler3266
@adambutler3266 Жыл бұрын
Who’s Stacey
@robinettbanister1236
@robinettbanister1236 Жыл бұрын
@@deniseganey6890 Lori learned it somewhere
@islanderbyrd1881
@islanderbyrd1881 2 жыл бұрын
It is necessary to meet the family of the person you plan to marry. Viewing the family dynamics may reveal what a person is really about. Heed her warning!
@olderwiser64
@olderwiser64 2 жыл бұрын
I have said from DAY ONE Lori & Alex were most likely having a sexual relationship given her power over him and how much he hated her husbands. That Cox family is so friggin whack! This is NOT surprising at all.
@dollymadison2397
@dollymadison2397 2 жыл бұрын
Well IM surprised. Surprised AND shocked. I probably SHOULDN'T be, as diligently as Ive followed this case, but.. heck, I'm STILL having a difficult time wrapping my noggin around that even though I just now heard it with my own ears & I believe her. I mean, it's not as though I'm young and/or terribly naive, but still...I'd have never even GUESSED that. I'm doubting that Lori & Alex actually had sex, but even "just" what his ex describes is...oh my word 🤮🤮🤮 Smh. How can that beeeee?? (Rhetorical (?) I know you can't fathom it either, S. Downey.)
@Ahlly144
@Ahlly144 2 жыл бұрын
Omg that’s sick and disgusting 🤮
@GingerSnapp717
@GingerSnapp717 2 жыл бұрын
Same! I remember being shut down about this “theory” on fakebook too.
@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644
@ellafacebooktruecrimecases3644 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@olderwiser64
@olderwiser64 2 жыл бұрын
@@dollymadison2397 it does happen and especially if there has been other sexual abuse in the family from a parent or uncle/aunt or someone in authority. Not accusing anyone else but I definitely believe they had a full on sexual relationship. Then I heard some people say they thought he was gay so then I thought I was wrong about them but then I heard he was going to Columbia to have sex with women down there-for money not because he had a specific gf there. But this woman shed light on the family that supports what seemed so evident all along. Nothing surprises me with them or that Cox family. After I read the email that their brother Adam’s wife sent about Alex killing Melani’s dogs and Lori’s dog for them, I don’t put ANYTHING past them. Horribly disturbed people.
@kellykelly7747
@kellykelly7747 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I already felt there was something up between Alex and Lori...a strange interaction etc.
@nottthereyet4872
@nottthereyet4872 Ай бұрын
I hope they can use this info for Lori's Arizona trial.
@crazylicious85
@crazylicious85 2 жыл бұрын
Makes me think Lori & Alex’s parents SA them as kids/teens.
@Malibu_Dawn
@Malibu_Dawn 2 жыл бұрын
Ritual Sexual Abuse
@madreep
@madreep 2 жыл бұрын
Sexual abuse runs rampant within the Mormon church. No one talks about it but it happens often.
@krazyk8592
@krazyk8592 2 жыл бұрын
Something inappropriate was gone on, sexually. These two freaks didn't end up this way in a vacuum.
@faykouri1162
@faykouri1162 2 жыл бұрын
So lucky this lady got away from that disgusting evil family! Oh my revelation of inappropriate behaviour between them disgraceful. Great interview a job well done!
@robbymonaco3738
@robbymonaco3738 2 жыл бұрын
I've said it before and I'll say it again - kids who are sexually abused as kids can turn very violent as adults. I'm not saying kids who are abused become criminals, but a lot of these criminals were sexually abused as kids. My point is, sex abuse of children needs to stop because it could cause a young child's mind to go insane sometimes.
@jerryw6699
@jerryw6699 2 жыл бұрын
I had a classmate that was sexually abused and wound up killing his wife, her 14yr old son and himself. We, classmates, all knew he was dangerous and the event really didn't surprise us too much.
@solrsys
@solrsys 2 жыл бұрын
And how creepy was it that she said they only acted that way at their parents house?
@dianac2498
@dianac2498 2 жыл бұрын
I had a friend whose dad touched her like this and worse. He got her pregnant at 13 and the mom took her for an abortion. Even the grandma knew. They didn’t hide it one bit in their house. I was quite a bit younger than her and no one listened or cared so I stopped trying to tell anyone. It was confusing, uncomfortable, and downright scary to witness. I found out she died at age 50/52 from breast cancer but her own daughter is super messed up. That’s because he did it to her as well. I tried to report when I saw she had a child (once I grew up) but no one did anything again! I will say her dad hated every boyfriend she had as well. Possessiveness disguised as “protection” is common in these scenarios. It’s tragic those in authority are so uninterested when they profess to care about kids.
@robbymonaco3738
@robbymonaco3738 2 жыл бұрын
@@dianac2498 Sadly these things happen all to often, either out in the open or behind closed doors
@marys3127
@marys3127 2 жыл бұрын
@@solrsys - I think it is because their dad was sexually molesting them. The parents were sexual deviants who at the very least spoke openly and repeatedly about their own sex life to their children, so it would be natural for Lori and Alex to feel comfortable displaying such behavior in front of their weirdo parents. It all makes sense now. The power Lori had over Alex was sexual.
@SuzyLovesJesus
@SuzyLovesJesus 2 жыл бұрын
God bless Alex’s ex-wife!!! She is a brave woman and forever in my prayers! That whole Cox family is twisted and evil!
@linanicolia1363
@linanicolia1363 2 жыл бұрын
not seeing this at all. She is fooling people......
@jjrr2273
@jjrr2273 Жыл бұрын
Too much unproductive time on her hands and sounds more than a bit slighted aka vindictive - leave your ex's alone ppl damn
@sinetteiversen9978
@sinetteiversen9978 Жыл бұрын
Her brother Adam and his son Zac seems to be decent people.
@cyntmacz
@cyntmacz 2 жыл бұрын
Alex was 5 Years Older than Lori. He was born in 1968.
@robbiemarcum8878
@robbiemarcum8878 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow. She is a brave woman to get out of that marriage and to also come forward to tell what she knows. I know this information is very much appreciated.
@Dragonfly5455
@Dragonfly5455 2 жыл бұрын
Another piece of collateral damage. Poor lady. Her life will never be the same
@PicoAndSepulveda
@PicoAndSepulveda 2 жыл бұрын
It just got a whole lot weirder.
@charlottesometimes3060
@charlottesometimes3060 2 жыл бұрын
I had a sister in law and husband like that. When I saw them in bed, I was told I had a jealousy problem. He passed away and she built a shrine for him with his ashes being the center piece.
@princessglittersparkle4146
@princessglittersparkle4146 2 жыл бұрын
Umm, no I don't think you had the problem...very disfunctional to be in bed together. Typical to tell you that you had the problem. Yuck!
@karenandrews8695
@karenandrews8695 2 жыл бұрын
Creepy SICK
@katalinas9264
@katalinas9264 2 жыл бұрын
You caught your husband and his sister in bed together? And you stayed with him? Wow.
@charlottesometimes3060
@charlottesometimes3060 2 жыл бұрын
@@katalinas9264I left the state and divorced him, then he died
@katalinas9264
@katalinas9264 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlottesometimes3060 oh...good to hear 🤙
@ninjazmbeegrl396
@ninjazmbeegrl396 2 жыл бұрын
I knew there was something creepy about their relationship....it just wasn't normal!!
@venusgal2706
@venusgal2706 2 жыл бұрын
East Idaho News and Nate have stood out in this case. Stellar job from early on and it continues. Kudos.
@Sweetie_PieLo
@Sweetie_PieLo 2 жыл бұрын
Lori and Alex=diabolical combo
@pamelawages7927
@pamelawages7927 Жыл бұрын
Bless her for being for persistent. This is such a wicked web of deceit and she is trying to help.
@theflyingdutchman_01
@theflyingdutchman_01 2 жыл бұрын
that woman’s story sounds totally credible - now it all makes much more sense - unfortunately none of this can be proven in court, but it helps to see the full picture of what actually REALLY happened…
@thornepp6286
@thornepp6286 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t trust Zulema at all, her behaviour was extremely suspicious the day Alex died, I think she was just trying to cover her ass because she was worried about getting caught
@holden3
@holden3 2 жыл бұрын
This family makes house of 1000 corpses family look functional!
@secretlover5759
@secretlover5759 2 жыл бұрын
Run rabbit run!!!
@aprilstorm
@aprilstorm 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@momof5nutzlove490
@momof5nutzlove490 2 жыл бұрын
Yup
@AlexandraG_
@AlexandraG_ 2 жыл бұрын
Wow i feel like this explains alot about them, their dynamic and how Alex was as a person, I feel like this was a huge missing puzzle piece. Pretty sick and shocking. They've done a great job covering this story and I can't wait to hear all the details as they emerge to the public. What an absolutely insane case, the family is obviously super twisted.
@sukkit.853
@sukkit.853 Жыл бұрын
Ever heard of prudence, decency? your excitement is gross and insolent to the people who are suffering.
@bugsea54
@bugsea54 2 жыл бұрын
Talk about no boundaries! This is just very weird. It confirms what we thought about the 2 of them.
@annabanna123
@annabanna123 2 жыл бұрын
“Which is not normal to me” 😂 😭
@americanabulldog2465
@americanabulldog2465 2 жыл бұрын
This poor woman; I can only imagine how she felt witnessing the dynamic in that family.
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