LISTEN: Lori Vallow & Alex Cox's Inappropriate Relationship per Cox's Ex Wife

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2 жыл бұрын

This phone call released on Thursday by the Chandler Police Department is a conversation btween Alex Cox's ex-wife named Debbie and a detective. She share a strang relationship Cox allegedly had with his sister Lori Vallow Daybell.
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@joannadechenne6368
@joannadechenne6368 Жыл бұрын
She just confirmed EVERYTHING that I have always believed. Alex was Lori's hitman because he was incestually in love with his sister. He killed and killed for her - until she murdered him. Period.
@sinahaase9923
@sinahaase9923 Жыл бұрын
Yup. This basically sums it up. Until that daybell guy came along and she got a new guy.
@gwenthompson8347
@gwenthompson8347 Жыл бұрын
She had to get rid of him in the end because he knew too much and it could be Daybell didn't trust him.
@cemoihonay
@cemoihonay Жыл бұрын
Except autopsy showed he died of natural causes.
@johnfrangione7059
@johnfrangione7059 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!!!!
@thewarden7171
@thewarden7171 Жыл бұрын
He killed those kids and buried them in Daybells back yard. Do you think Daybell knew??
@North_West1
@North_West1 Жыл бұрын
Her 24 yo husband “sleeping” with a 15 yo is not him being promiscuous…it is him assaulting a child.
@deborahdeldebbioable
@deborahdeldebbioable Жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. Weird to call it that! She did a great job of just stating facts and not getting emotional though
@scottsent8120
@scottsent8120 Жыл бұрын
Or a Jezebel tempting him into fornication.
@mmersino7363
@mmersino7363 Жыл бұрын
@@scottsent8120 looooooooool stop
@XxXShevampXxX
@XxXShevampXxX Жыл бұрын
@@scottsent8120 lol bruh
@jessicamazariegos749
@jessicamazariegos749 Жыл бұрын
@@scottsent8120 you may be technically right. Given that we now know his brain was stunted with a TBI, and he was easily manipulated by Lori, he could have had a teenage mindset responding to a promiscuous teen girl. Doesn’t excuse the act though and I sure wish his ex had said she turned him in. Could have changed the course of everything…
@missmee7210
@missmee7210 Жыл бұрын
No wonder Tylee was so protective of JJ. She knew her mom and uncle were not normal. Those poor kids.
@tigq1430
@tigq1430 Жыл бұрын
Sad part JJ wasn't her child. *from my understanding he was Charles nephew (husband #4)
@sourgreendolly7685
@sourgreendolly7685 Жыл бұрын
@@tigq1430 Yes but he was adopted by Charles and, unfortunately, Lori so legally he was their kid and Tylee clearly saw him as her brother.
@theflowerwhosavedtheuniver5658
@theflowerwhosavedtheuniver5658 Жыл бұрын
@MJ Remy, JJ was Kay & Larry's biological grandson. His father was Kay & Larry's son. For some reason, neither their son nor JJ's mother were in a position to take care of him, which is why he lived with the Woodcock's originally. After a while, the Woodcock's found they couldn't give JJ what he needed, possible due to his autism, and it was therefore agreed that Charles and Lori would step in and adopt him.
@krishayes8363
@krishayes8363 Жыл бұрын
And that was just the tip of the iceberg evidently.
@susanmetz9892
@susanmetz9892 Жыл бұрын
You're incorrect. Tylee had no idea what abnormal was. She grew up with her mother and all of her demons. Just look at the police video at the crime scene of her step dad ( who was the only dad she really ever knew). Her step-dad was murdered and both her and Lori essentially had no reaction. Lori has brainwashed her as well.
@janicebeare8127
@janicebeare8127 Жыл бұрын
Good for this woman in recognizing how troubled this family was. She's so well spoken and sensible it's refreshing.
@kccain4011
@kccain4011 Жыл бұрын
Agreed👌🏿
@michellemooresings
@michellemooresings Жыл бұрын
Someone normal finally
@ckwind1971
@ckwind1971 Жыл бұрын
Seeing a so-called "normal" well-adjusted person IS so refreshing nowadays 😅
@donnafuller3029
@donnafuller3029 Жыл бұрын
Really? I thought the complete opposite.
@carly3855
@carly3855 Жыл бұрын
What? She is cold in talking about Alex sleeping with a 15yo, called it infidelity...
@rbjones72703
@rbjones72703 Жыл бұрын
Joe Ryan's death needs to be investigated
@katrinaglanville3612
@katrinaglanville3612 Жыл бұрын
it is too late sadly
@almondeyez_80
@almondeyez_80 Жыл бұрын
​@@katrinaglanville3612Why?
@katrinaglanville3612
@katrinaglanville3612 Жыл бұрын
@@almondeyez_80 his body, when found, was already decomposing. Therefore, the cause of death was undetermined. Being, Tylee's father, she got a very large settlement after his death. Money, that Lori had transferred into her own various accounts, because Tylee was under the age, to access it. Although Lori had no problem accessing the funds and blowing the lot!
@missmelody6185
@missmelody6185 Жыл бұрын
​@@almondeyez_80 I believe he was cremated.
@tarsalansdown7419
@tarsalansdown7419 2 ай бұрын
I'm sure it was before Tammys exhumation, could be wrong, I think they examined his ashes ?
@lucindamoura6718
@lucindamoura6718 Жыл бұрын
This woman was saved by her own intuition thank God!
@sula1529
@sula1529 Жыл бұрын
Shes lucky she got out and is alive
@lisaboucher5553
@lisaboucher5553 Жыл бұрын
I think if I saw my husband acting like that with his sister my intuition would kick in too lol
@GiGi34347
@GiGi34347 Жыл бұрын
This validates why Tylee said she first started keeping a bat next to her at night when she lived with her uncle “alone”.
@AllieBFromTN
@AllieBFromTN Жыл бұрын
So sad..
@jodievukmir3187
@jodievukmir3187 Жыл бұрын
It's still amazes me that the Chandler police did not keep or question Alex further even after the fact came out that they knew he was already a convicted felon
@gmaw23beauties37
@gmaw23beauties37 Жыл бұрын
Or Lori's reaction about her husband....NUTZ!!!
@anneheimburger3186
@anneheimburger3186 Жыл бұрын
LDS
@fizarrah
@fizarrah Жыл бұрын
If he was a felon he was illegally around a firearm, and he used it. That’s crazy. So what’s the law now?
@lyndaczika6327
@lyndaczika6327 Жыл бұрын
He definitely got away with a horrendous murder.
@lmm8960
@lmm8960 Жыл бұрын
I truly believe they had evil helping them. Whether intentional or not.
@oldbat2ccats
@oldbat2ccats Жыл бұрын
I have always believed that despite Joe Ryan’s death being ruled natural causes, Alex and Lori somehow engineered it.
@boondocksdragon8959
@boondocksdragon8959 Жыл бұрын
Same. The list of suspicious deaths around these creeps just keeps getting longer and longer.
@Noorieke
@Noorieke Жыл бұрын
Absolutely and I think Lori (through Alex) getting away with killing Joe and Charles exasperated the situation.
@lindaohlemacher1774
@lindaohlemacher1774 Жыл бұрын
Just like they did with Tammy, trying to make it look natural death.
@lindaohlemacher1774
@lindaohlemacher1774 Жыл бұрын
Lori and Alex are just two sick puppies! I bet Chad mad sure Alex died for it! Straddling your own brother in a sexually way is just gross!
@ceedavies
@ceedavies Жыл бұрын
Definitely. The first unusual death was Melani P's mum. I've always wondered if that was a natural death.
@seczajkowski
@seczajkowski Жыл бұрын
This woman was on to it. People probably thought she was crazy but she was 100% right with her intuition.
@experienceofchris1108
@experienceofchris1108 Ай бұрын
I don’t think after hearing about a brother touching his sisters boobs anyone would think she was crazy
@amberreid6242
@amberreid6242 Жыл бұрын
You can tell in this lady’s voice she’s like “I can’t believe I was in this circus!”
@Mynameisdarkxxo
@Mynameisdarkxxo Жыл бұрын
Oh my god, I knew the way Alex defended Lori was NOT normal
@daveh4925
@daveh4925 Жыл бұрын
yep he coated Lori in bro man milk front, back and facially
@kaseydior.91
@kaseydior.91 Жыл бұрын
@@daveh4925 you’re sick .
@MamaBearA24
@MamaBearA24 Жыл бұрын
When she said Alex made her feel weird for thinking his relationship with his sister was wrong... I've felt that before and it makes you feel like you're a crazy person. Such a brave woman for calling and telling her story 👏
@missmelody6185
@missmelody6185 Жыл бұрын
Gaslighting.
@makaylahollywood3677
@makaylahollywood3677 Жыл бұрын
Good for this lady for getting out- she listened to her instincts. And, she is free from psychopaths. Excellent interviewer!
@bonniekellyromeo9073
@bonniekellyromeo9073 Жыл бұрын
So sad that they fought so hard to get custody of those kids only to kill them.
@whoanelly7444
@whoanelly7444 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure this was all just a game to her! All of it! She just looks like a witch in that pic.
@maga2042
@maga2042 Жыл бұрын
I dont think she fought for the kids but for the money she would get having full custody. She was all about the money. So sad
@cindymarie67
@cindymarie67 Жыл бұрын
@@maga2042 she and alex Murdaugh would make a great pair! Both so evil!
@lieke9460
@lieke9460 Жыл бұрын
Money
@susien7323
@susien7323 Жыл бұрын
Bonnie they wanted the social security benefits. Both kids fathers died. She wanted the money but not the kids. 💵 💵 💵 💵 💵 if the grandparents wanted the kids, they would be in control of the money
@8ofwands300
@8ofwands300 Жыл бұрын
The interviews with the grandmother, Lori's mother, on the Netflix docuseries left me cold. I felt the woman was oddly detached and performing the occasional emotion, incongruous to the savagery and severity of the crimes. At the end of the series the thought occurred to me that the whole family seemed to have shallow emotional range.
@ApacheJulie
@ApacheJulie Жыл бұрын
The sister had that same arrogant smirk as Lori too.
@giiness508
@giiness508 Жыл бұрын
I believe she’s dissociating as a psychological coping mechanism.
@RadiantStar8997
@RadiantStar8997 Жыл бұрын
She is just old.
@katiexyz3263
@katiexyz3263 Жыл бұрын
They’re narcissists. They cared more about the family image than the health and safety of family members.
@RadiantStar8997
@RadiantStar8997 Жыл бұрын
Someone in the series said people surrounding Lori and Chad didn't realize the severity of their 'sickness.' The only person who saw things as they were and was terrified of what Lori was capable of was Charles.
@sondog1983
@sondog1983 Жыл бұрын
Boy oh boy, his first wife certainly dodged a bullet! She got the angels on her side that’s for sure.
@Beaglegirl19
@Beaglegirl19 Жыл бұрын
So did Lori's first two husbands. They were the lucky ones. They got out before anything crazy happened to them.
@johndvoracek1000
@johndvoracek1000 Ай бұрын
"dodged a bullet" - that's a literally perfect way to put it!
@debbiea9262
@debbiea9262 Жыл бұрын
I 100 percent believe her. Totally makes sense now why he killed for his sister.
@stormyskyz4251
@stormyskyz4251 2 жыл бұрын
I know exes can over exaggerate or lie, but this lady sounds genuine
@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags
@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags 2 жыл бұрын
FOR sure...she didn't add any outlandish junk or stories that are off the charts. This woman sounds like the most reasonable person in that sicko family!
@cinnamon2151
@cinnamon2151 2 жыл бұрын
Lori’s parents spawned this mess I believe, sickos sadly, Annie said it well , She looked forward to seeing this chain broken when Tylee could legally escape her moms grip on her birthday, New York fries anyone ?
@PaulBrown-uj5le
@PaulBrown-uj5le 2 жыл бұрын
Why would she lie.
@emma2370
@emma2370 Жыл бұрын
She does sound genuine. Her worry about how her own children would be raised is accurate. She is a smart woman and more women should think long term like she did.
@tinab3627
@tinab3627 Жыл бұрын
Yes. She sounds very grounded & calm.
@nagymakaede3286
@nagymakaede3286 Жыл бұрын
What a great interviewer. he was patient, let her talk and share at her own pace and gave just the right amount to feedback when needed
@piiamaria5841
@piiamaria5841 Жыл бұрын
Interviewer? It's a conversation between Alex Cox's ex-wife Debbie and a detective at Chandler Police Department which she called up
@nagymakaede3286
@nagymakaede3286 Жыл бұрын
@@piiamaria5841 Law enforcement conduct interviews. I would not label this a conversation. Law enforcement conduct interviews with: suspects, subjects, victims and witnesses. The "interviewer" would be the officer or detective or agent. ... So you could add to the sentence ... What a great interviewer the detective is... but for me, it doesn't seem to flow as well.
@janeen70
@janeen70 Жыл бұрын
​@@nagymakaede3286 What a lovely, thoughtful reply.
@dday9433
@dday9433 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I was impressed with how calm and level-headed he seemed. She was a great witness, too, she seemed very honest and caring, despite the fact that she was an "ex" of someone who apparently cheated on her during their marriage.
@melissaquinn5611
@melissaquinn5611 Жыл бұрын
@@nagymakaede3286he seems to pause when he is uncomfortable, and Debbie knows it so she is like for example... he picks her up and she wraps her legs around him, he bounces her while they make moaning noises.
@nickisnyder3450
@nickisnyder3450 Жыл бұрын
Crazy how Lori had Alex trained to kill off any husband she was done with. He talked about doing to Mr Ryan exactly what he ended up doing to Charles.
@Dopesellsitself
@Dopesellsitself Жыл бұрын
Anyone else thought Lori's mom was off the Rocks in the Netflix documentary ?
@brittgray1324
@brittgray1324 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Tylee and Jj were missing for how long and this grandmother was not the least bit suspicious
@michellemooresings
@michellemooresings Жыл бұрын
Yesss
@prisoners23
@prisoners23 Жыл бұрын
yup
@TentinQuarantino_
@TentinQuarantino_ Жыл бұрын
Anyone who does their lipstick like that is a few ants short of a picnic.
@Dopesellsitself
@Dopesellsitself Жыл бұрын
@@TentinQuarantino_ lol
@slvrcross
@slvrcross 2 жыл бұрын
Smart woman, trust your intuition, heed the red flags
@mookyo9602
@mookyo9602 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't it nice to hear from someone who did heed the warning signs!✌
@Woodstock53
@Woodstock53 Жыл бұрын
Wow that lady did what everyone, female, should do or she may have been a victim
@hannahe7556
@hannahe7556 Жыл бұрын
This case just keeps getting deeper and weirder as it goes. I still haven’t got my head around it. I think the Murdaugh case is crazy but this seems to be a whole other level of batshit craziness. It almost plays out like a film script that no one would ever make because it’s unbelievable.
@thomasswafford250
@thomasswafford250 Жыл бұрын
Like the Manson murders. The motivation was so bizarre, who would have believed it.
@bbe3034
@bbe3034 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking about the Alex Murdaugh case. I discovered KZfaq channel- Eric Alan. He grew up in the same area as the Murdaugh family in South Carolina and does amazing research on the case.
@hannahe7556
@hannahe7556 Жыл бұрын
@@bbe3034 oh interesting, definitely will check that out, thanks 👍🏻
@pnwlady
@pnwlady Жыл бұрын
Ya, more like the other Mormon/FLDS murders. Unfortunately, when your faith is is built on nonsense it’s a gateway for more nonsense.
@JimmyBmusic1
@JimmyBmusic1 Жыл бұрын
She’s not hot. She was never hot
@tweetiebirdism
@tweetiebirdism 2 жыл бұрын
This fills in a lot of the questions I had about these two. I wondered why Alec was so eager to kill for her.
@BlueBabyAkaAj
@BlueBabyAkaAj Жыл бұрын
The minute someone says they want to just kill someone I'm gone.
@alyssalauren8088
@alyssalauren8088 Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy she wasn’t a casualty in this insanity. Rest In Peace to all of their victims, you will never be forgotten ❤️
@Gwaycee
@Gwaycee Жыл бұрын
True, because almost everyone who was around Lori is dead.
@1stDoNoHarm63
@1stDoNoHarm63 Жыл бұрын
​@@Gwaycee everybody who's disagreed with Lori is gone.
@rustinstardust2094
@rustinstardust2094 Жыл бұрын
It's also possible all their victims might never be discovered...since we still don't know how many there really were
@melindamartin9765
@melindamartin9765 Жыл бұрын
They got Eldon the neighbour I believe???
@communitybirthcenter321
@communitybirthcenter321 Жыл бұрын
There are many reasons incest is a sin. And this explains a lot for me in how a mother could kill her children and family. There were absolutely no boundaries for them.
@ascrolldownabbeylane
@ascrolldownabbeylane Жыл бұрын
Accurate!
@carolannpacificadam1944
@carolannpacificadam1944 Жыл бұрын
Oh absolutely!! The epitome of crazy here !!
@lisaboucher5553
@lisaboucher5553 Жыл бұрын
Yeah not only boundaries but they had unhealthy relation ships so the rest of us see brother and sister as one way and kids is another way but they don't
@ceetee6939
@ceetee6939 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely- and thank god one of the kids made it out alive.. smh poor tylee and jj all the instability & insanity at the end and isolation- that must have been so hard.
@NsyShwl
@NsyShwl Жыл бұрын
True. I remember as a child my mother telling us about what to do and what not to do around my sisters.. they even said that in danger we should be the ones to push ourselves forward in protection of our sisters.. it just baffles me how you can possibly do something like that and just go on vacation to Hawaii as if everything is fine.. felt good though to see how their face changed once they were served papers.. hopefully all of the innocent find peace ❤..
@candicecutthroat
@candicecutthroat 2 жыл бұрын
This lady was very well spoken for everything she had to explain
@therealz360z7
@therealz360z7 2 жыл бұрын
As so young when this all happened.
@mnikcd123
@mnikcd123 Жыл бұрын
?
@cjmiller2037
@cjmiller2037 Жыл бұрын
Loris Mom looked like she was a bit on the loose side or something, strange lady.
@-smittenkitten-1932
@-smittenkitten-1932 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I thought she did really well considering the policeman wasn't giving her much.. i thought he was quite blunt .
@sourgreendolly7685
@sourgreendolly7685 Жыл бұрын
@@-smittenkitten-1932 He seemed blunt in a professional manner to me. There was no dismissal of anything she said and he asked for details when needed. Even prefaced the "why now" question with the explanation that it's not him judging her. Maybe it's my own directness, but I don't think his behavior was off for the situation.
@talkindurinthemovie
@talkindurinthemovie Жыл бұрын
I feel so bad for Tylee. Who knows what that poor baby went through. 😓
@Noneofyourbusiness57817
@Noneofyourbusiness57817 Жыл бұрын
What about Charles Vallow? He raised children that weren’t biologically his and Tylee lies about him
@sunleo6161
@sunleo6161 Жыл бұрын
@@Noneofyourbusiness57817 Right
@karissaholliday7527
@karissaholliday7527 Жыл бұрын
@@Noneofyourbusiness57817 yes he did Tylee was his stepdaughter dad but JJ was his sister's grandchild,so they were related blood ties he and his wife Lori adopted him.
@csc8697
@csc8697 Жыл бұрын
They haven't talked of her much at all.
@susanmetz9892
@susanmetz9892 Жыл бұрын
Tylee had been brain washed by her mother as well. She essentially had no reaction on the crime scene of her stepfathers murder. Watch the video.
@ramblinrose960
@ramblinrose960 Жыл бұрын
She used her brother till she no longer needed him to kill for her. She and Daybell are equally guilty.
@melissagottlieb3381
@melissagottlieb3381 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable job telling your story. I’m so glad you saved yourself. As a survivor I can testify that there are really creepy dynamics in families with generational SA. Shocking to most, but disturbingly normalized within the family. What an absolute web of destruction and evil.
@gemmag.2988
@gemmag.2988 Жыл бұрын
Just like the incredibly evil and violent Borgia family in medieval Italy...
@mrs.bforlife9279
@mrs.bforlife9279 2 жыл бұрын
Way back when when Lori's friend, Melanie Gibb testified, I knew something inappropriate was going on between those two this just solidifies it.
@JackieSwisher619
@JackieSwisher619 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Tylee being raised and exposed to this behavior.
@mrqadaffi3638
@mrqadaffi3638 2 жыл бұрын
and murdered
@hensonrook8674
@hensonrook8674 2 жыл бұрын
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@mrqadaffi3638
@mrqadaffi3638 2 жыл бұрын
@@hensonrook8674 i agree
@holden3
@holden3 2 жыл бұрын
@@hensonrook8674 easy for u to say !
@ginarizzo1039
@ginarizzo1039 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂
@Cindy-qe5rw
@Cindy-qe5rw 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that no-one followed up with her from any of thole agencies she left tips for (including the FBI) should be disturbing for anyone who hear it because it is NOT uncommon.
@gypsy3171
@gypsy3171 Жыл бұрын
We all know the FBI is pretty much a farce
@klm4446
@klm4446 Жыл бұрын
I watch a true crime channel called That Chapter and it's unbelievable (yet believable) how many times law enforcement is like meh, we don't need to look into THAT and the murderer literally evades them for years or sometimes decades.
@amyh7554
@amyh7554 Жыл бұрын
Facts!!!! So awfully sad for these sweet angels
@amyh7554
@amyh7554 Жыл бұрын
@@klm4446 Omgggggg I love “That Chapter!!”
@NNavyBBlue
@NNavyBBlue Жыл бұрын
I know right?! Where are her journals? She can prob write a book with all that info
@user-vw8ov8ue5z
@user-vw8ov8ue5z Жыл бұрын
This is all so disturbing. These poor innocent children. What they had to witness and forced to live with during their short time here on earth. 😢
@BrokenWingsSC
@BrokenWingsSC Жыл бұрын
It was so obvious she had a hold of him somehow because it never was any type of a normal brother sister relationship period. So do I believe this lady ? Heck yes!
@daveh4925
@daveh4925 Жыл бұрын
Oh she held his bro milk in her booty im sure
@terenasimons2787
@terenasimons2787 Жыл бұрын
So that means psycho sister was telling him lies so that her brother would get rid of the husband for her. Wow what a messed up family.
@PeterGibbonns
@PeterGibbonns Жыл бұрын
Her brother was just as crazy too. The whole family is nuts, nobody gets a pass.
@gmaw23beauties37
@gmaw23beauties37 Жыл бұрын
Promise of his life insurance!!!! Until her husband pulled a fast one and changed the beneficiary!!!!!
@mykidsaresupercute
@mykidsaresupercute Жыл бұрын
I figured Lori and Alex were sleeping together. A guy isn't going to murder someone like that unless he thinks there's something in it for him. It seems like he thought Lori was "his."
@juliuscaesart
@juliuscaesart Жыл бұрын
🧐🤯🤢
@rrksk
@rrksk Жыл бұрын
A guy? He was her brother
@mykidsaresupercute
@mykidsaresupercute Жыл бұрын
@@rrksk and? There are some sick individuals in the world.
@krazyforkale
@krazyforkale Жыл бұрын
Perhaps Alex was not Lori's blood brother, and so they had a fling growing up?
@sunleo6161
@sunleo6161 Жыл бұрын
@@krazyforkale it doesn’t matter?
@stevesosebee5860
@stevesosebee5860 Жыл бұрын
Those poor children had to live with these demons until they were murdered !!!
@georgieeve2026
@georgieeve2026 Жыл бұрын
Sis really brought all the tea ☕
@Lady1974M
@Lady1974M Жыл бұрын
I'd heard about this allegation between Alex and Lori ages ago but no-one brought it up since so I've always wondered just what sort of relationship those two had. Every time someone said they were 'close' I suspected 'close' meant beyond the everyday definition. I have 3 brothers - all older - and not one would have touched me or my sister in that way. Our father would have cut off their hands.
@gemmag.2988
@gemmag.2988 Жыл бұрын
Plus I am sure it would never have occurred to your bros. !
@daveh4925
@daveh4925 Жыл бұрын
Lori has tasted that brother man milk i suspect in every hole as if they are doing that in front of her they had to have done stuff - crazy huh
@LucindaGaskill-zv3hk
@LucindaGaskill-zv3hk 10 ай бұрын
Or something else.
@lifeisgood3589
@lifeisgood3589 7 ай бұрын
Yea kinda a strange comment. I'm sure your brothers would never touch you because your their sister. Not out of fear. Not sure what to make out of you saying it like that
@Lady1974M
@Lady1974M 7 ай бұрын
@@lifeisgood3589 *you're
@robingillespie4467
@robingillespie4467 Жыл бұрын
Yes, listening to her makes me realize this woman was going to be murdered by Al but, she was smart and got out safely.
@sourgreendolly7685
@sourgreendolly7685 Жыл бұрын
And thank gods it was before having kids with him!
@rhythmnblues9195
@rhythmnblues9195 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but anytime I hear anything about the LDS it’s always weird cases like this…family…stuff 🙄 The Joshua Powell case was similar. Strange.
@mrs.bendover8613
@mrs.bendover8613 Жыл бұрын
Same. So weird.
@jennykirchhoff708
@jennykirchhoff708 Жыл бұрын
Yep… I was thinking the exact same thing!
@bonnie_gail
@bonnie_gail 26 күн бұрын
and Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt
@monicarose2135
@monicarose2135 Жыл бұрын
A malignant narcissist manipulated everyone around her, feeding them whatever lies it took to get them to do her evil bidding
@lisahoban7368
@lisahoban7368 Жыл бұрын
These aren't lies no this is the facts. You can tell by the way she tells it
@jeanP924
@jeanP924 Жыл бұрын
What Alex did to Charles is exactly what he wanted to do to Joseph Ryan. This interview points to Lori and Alex baiting JR to kill him. They managed to stun gun him or drug him and suffocate him in Joes apartment. its compelling to hear this knowing what we know now.
@launderedcotton8070
@launderedcotton8070 2 жыл бұрын
Why am I not surprised?
@river8760
@river8760 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@yourdarkestfears2231
@yourdarkestfears2231 Жыл бұрын
I think we ALL had this suspicion from the jump
@marianmartin9441
@marianmartin9441 Жыл бұрын
yep
@oliviahancook5195
@oliviahancook5195 Жыл бұрын
When I first heard the strange relationship and I thought he Alex acted more like a lover than a brother. I really believe this exwife of Alex. Also the fact he already had a plan to kill someone and goading them into a fight which he did with Charles.
@blacknight2149
@blacknight2149 Жыл бұрын
Thank GOODNESS she got out! She could have been another victim at some point! God bless her listening to her intuition n I’m sure God had a hand in this as well. 🙏🏻
@redwoodrebelgirl3010
@redwoodrebelgirl3010 Жыл бұрын
God speaks to us, using our intuition. In my experience & opinion.
@summertime11413
@summertime11413 Жыл бұрын
I believe every last word she said, because the first time I heard about this on the News I said something weird about these siblings. Those poor kids wow 😞🙏🏾
@lisazdvoru1660
@lisazdvoru1660 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, there was a weird vibe between them in the documentary. I kept thinking, this guy is her brother? Brother? The way they spoke did not sound like a sibling relationship at all.
@shaunaellis6619
@shaunaellis6619 Жыл бұрын
I believe Tylee started to become rebellious towards her mother and uncle after she witnessed what they were really capable of doing to people. Tylee knew too much and they probably thought she told her brother what really happened to Charles so, they both had to go. Alex had to die because he knew Chad got a lot of money after Tammy's death and was constantly wanting his share or he would end Chad
@littlewingmyoho
@littlewingmyoho Жыл бұрын
I think they ambushed him with the phone as bait.Charles was jacked and looked much stronger than his friend and family member Alex
@sinahaase9923
@sinahaase9923 Жыл бұрын
@@littlewingmyoho probably:/ so sad
@Soltice-ty2nf
@Soltice-ty2nf Жыл бұрын
I think they killed JJ because he was a burden while Tylee knew to much and say something.
@gc8024
@gc8024 Жыл бұрын
She was jealous of her own daughter. Narc mother's get that way. Once they hit teens. Just one reason
@DVelez-wz3fe
@DVelez-wz3fe Жыл бұрын
@@Soltice-ty2nf Lori also stole Tylees SS benefits
@brasstacks7181
@brasstacks7181 Жыл бұрын
It was pretty evident in the Netflix show that there was something very OFF about Lori Vallow's mom as well. The more you learn about this family, the more you realize that Lori's parent's nurtured narcissism and psychopathy, same with the hypersexuality. This is one very sick family and in spite of the outcome, Lori's parent's and her sister Summer remain in denial. Lori's brother Adam probably would have been Alex's next hit, which is why he only went to his mom to vent his "concerns" of Lori. He did not go to the police when Charles asked for his help, yet now Adam & his uncle are allover the internet now talking about this tragedy. Lori & Chad had too many enablers. If they went against Lori & Chad they became the next target and they knew it. BOTH Lori and Chad are EQUALLY responsible and I pray neither one of them ever experience life outside a prison cell again. They will always be a danger to society. PERIOD.
@Ladyjojo695
@Ladyjojo695 10 ай бұрын
All of them
@nomedigas7946
@nomedigas7946 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely connects some dots and as others are saying not surprising in the least. 🤦‍♀️🤯
@livea3596
@livea3596 2 жыл бұрын
Good, honest interview. Very revealing.
@Jane-ic5gy
@Jane-ic5gy Жыл бұрын
I wonder if this lady is going to be a witness. “Sins of our mother” includes testimony from Lori Vallows mother who indicates they had a wonderful normal family. Anyone who follow this case knows this is not the truth.
@dianealarcon8304
@dianealarcon8304 Жыл бұрын
These two apple(s) didn’t fall far from the tree. What secrets are their Mom and dad keeping.
@kirpdeb
@kirpdeb Жыл бұрын
@@dianealarcon8304 probably SA and incest.
@manarmarzouk8595
@manarmarzouk8595 Жыл бұрын
Lori’s mother is emotionally detached. Nothing she said was warm, not coming from tbe heart
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 Жыл бұрын
@@manarmarzouk8595I know! Janis is very bizarre, VERY bizarre-
@jennykirchhoff708
@jennykirchhoff708 Жыл бұрын
She was twisted and delusional… I hold the parents just as responsible
@lovepet4565
@lovepet4565 2 жыл бұрын
Omg this is absolutely insane in the membrane
@heleneocleary5888
@heleneocleary5888 2 жыл бұрын
Insane in the 🧠 brain!
@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags
@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags 2 жыл бұрын
and ABSOULTELY true!
@Pussycatwhiskers
@Pussycatwhiskers Жыл бұрын
@@heleneocleary5888 hahaha I was going to say that too 😂🤣😂
@Gxie
@Gxie Жыл бұрын
7:38 and on…. Omg. NO brother & sisters act like that. I have a brother and I can 💯 say that we have NEVER acted that way. You guys know this too. Makes sense that is how she had him whipped. So gross. 🤢🤢
@despicabledavidshort3806
@despicabledavidshort3806 Жыл бұрын
Yea, I have a brother and we fought all the time, never weirdness
@patelvidhi
@patelvidhi Жыл бұрын
When i saw her mom and her sister's interview it was before JJ Nad her sister's body was found. And I feel so weird and it was creepy. They all look and seems like crazy
@patelvidhi
@patelvidhi Жыл бұрын
​@@despicabledavidshort3806 Exactly I have brother and we fought and beat each other since we were kid. He is one year younger than me but when it comes for safety he is best brother. But I never saw this . This Lori makes me feel dizzy even her past.
@xlargetophat
@xlargetophat Жыл бұрын
Creepy.
@nooodles939
@nooodles939 Жыл бұрын
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@zovalentine7305
@zovalentine7305 Жыл бұрын
Rest in powerful peace Tylee🙏 and J.J.🙏
@stacyeandrew2
@stacyeandrew2 Жыл бұрын
Here is what u do when someone threatens someone.. call and make a report so they have it on file. Period!!!
@RobbieJayOne
@RobbieJayOne Жыл бұрын
This explains a lot. Chandler police were in over their head with this complex case. Maybe it was too unbelievable to them, until the dominos started falling. And maybe there were LDS members in police department.
@China-Clay
@China-Clay Жыл бұрын
Chandler is swimming in resources from a dozen other cities in the vicinity, they should’ve done better than they did
@xyzconsult4903
@xyzconsult4903 Жыл бұрын
Rwad that book "Leaving the Saints" and the practice of "abrahamic sacrifices". Chad was excomm'd twice. LORI and ALEX brought incest and murder to Cha'ds doomsday cult.
@badghoul-ld7vj
@badghoul-ld7vj Жыл бұрын
I was born and raised in SLC, Utah and can confirm that the Mormons control EVERYTHING that goes on in this state. The lawmakers, the police and even the department of alcoholic beverages services, how many licenses to serve alcohol in restaurants or bars are distributed, like the southern end of the salt lake valley where I grew up has the highest concentration of Mormons, the yuppy Mormons with money, and so many people have attempted to open bars and restaurants thta serve alcohol and none ever succeed. The Mormons are dead set on forcing their agendas and lifestyles on all residents of this state. It is complete bs. I stopped going when I was 13, caused an uproar when I asked why women aren't allowed to be bishops or give blessings or even be included in meetings or have any say whatsoever in decision making. Expected to shut up and make babies and raise those babies. Mormons are so self interested they feel the need to have tons of little carbon copies of themselves, adding to the overpopulation of this planet. It's absolutely insane. It is definitely a cult. Many crimes that happen thta involve bishops or even just LDS members, the police and Mormon owned news outlets here will bury the stories. Massive story came out thanks to SL Tribune about the church hiding billions of dollars thta the church has been stockpiling since the 70s that they claimed was for humanitarian needs, helping chugch members, etc but thya not a dime has been spent of it. On anything. Only added to. So they lied about their assets and lied about what it is being spent on, (not spent on) and how much. Just awful.
@vybenails6891
@vybenails6891 Жыл бұрын
Yes that's probably true
@Sense_Incensed
@Sense_Incensed Ай бұрын
@@xyzconsult4903 It was Alex who was excommunicated twice. Chad's sister-in-law warned the local church leaders about Chad but they did nothing.
@debgrant8776
@debgrant8776 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for coming forward with your story and information. No matter how small what you know may be, it adds pieces to the puzzle. It was actually quite interesting information! It's great you got out of that family and now have a better life. May we all pray for the decedents in this case and may they RIP 🌹🙏🌹
@Nurturing2
@Nurturing2 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for coming forward❣️ You are a credible source!!!
@Boxxxesi35000
@Boxxxesi35000 Жыл бұрын
Netflix got me here, this case is tragically crazy
@gwenthompson8347
@gwenthompson8347 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! This was very interesting.
@cappiece3786
@cappiece3786 Жыл бұрын
This was a complete failure of law enforcement and the court systems and it's still going on today they still haven't been charged with murder or sentenced to death like they need to be
@megangambill2018
@megangambill2018 Жыл бұрын
I always thought that Lori and Alex had a strange relationship. It seemed to me like she had him wrapped around her finger. Just a really strange relationship.
@joannadechenne6368
@joannadechenne6368 Жыл бұрын
The hot incest express. With his SISTER.
@donachaffinhodge
@donachaffinhodge Жыл бұрын
Ditto
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724
@smalltowngirlbigcityheart3724 Жыл бұрын
@megangambill2018 That’s not the only thing she had him wrapped around!! 😱😱😱
@noelvoss6744
@noelvoss6744 Жыл бұрын
I had wondered what happened to Lori based on how people talked about her, but this explains A LOT!!!!!! Lori's family dynamics gives insight as to how she turned out the way she did. I also got the impression that Alex and Lori had an odd relationship.
@Ultra-Collector
@Ultra-Collector Жыл бұрын
The end was really creepy! Additional information…Additional Information….😢
@nicholmarie36
@nicholmarie36 Жыл бұрын
Woo! What a doozy of a conversation. Just wow! Very telling re: the twisted relationship between the two siblings. Appalling to say the least.
@patriciatreslove146
@patriciatreslove146 2 жыл бұрын
I believe all this, that family are evil
@kjr2868
@kjr2868 Жыл бұрын
I think even the policeman on the police-line was stuttering, as the ex-wife was graphically describing the inter-family goings-on! She did the right thing ... and ran ...
@jessicamazariegos749
@jessicamazariegos749 Жыл бұрын
Right! He was struggling to compute. 🤔🫢😳😬🤮
@007Taylor
@007Taylor Жыл бұрын
He dropped the ball big time. Those kids could have been saved had he followed up. Lazy police.
@Sense_Incensed
@Sense_Incensed Ай бұрын
@@007Taylor This call was made months AFTER she heard the children were missing. He did not drop the ball, none of them did. She began calling the authorities in January. The children were murdered in September.
@JennifuhhGilardi
@JennifuhhGilardi Жыл бұрын
Yeah we have a much different word than “promiscuity” for a grown man that sleeps with a child, it’s wild how that was just glossed over
@moonovernight9834
@moonovernight9834 Жыл бұрын
Lori 's mom was a bit strange to me. makes sense now
@MsSugar1209
@MsSugar1209 Жыл бұрын
A bit???
@natalietitus3234
@natalietitus3234 Жыл бұрын
I think the same way. Soooo strange. I get a vibe of off-ness ! Just something isn’t 100% level. Yuck
@janetd569
@janetd569 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t understand how the Ex’s death was ruled self defense!! Now she confirms the fact that it was a set up! What a horrible family!! PURE EVIL!!
@lovelyshirl
@lovelyshirl Жыл бұрын
This woman seems very credible. Her statements shed a lot of light on the relationship between Lori and Alex - let's face it, it all seems very incestuous and extremely depraved and perverted. The plot thickens.
@annaxefta587
@annaxefta587 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Ur so smart.
@drinkmorewater3904
@drinkmorewater3904 Жыл бұрын
She was also gaslit and manipulated by him for years starting at a young age.
@mariathomas4815
@mariathomas4815 2 жыл бұрын
I am glad she walked away, she would have been one of his victims, God's has away of stepping in, she married into a cult like family, I believe this woman.
@dina7462
@dina7462 Жыл бұрын
Too bad god dint step in for the kids
@trehugr4life
@trehugr4life Жыл бұрын
Cult family 🎯
@georginablackwell7122
@georginablackwell7122 Жыл бұрын
This has got to come up in the trial ! Xx
@tarbert363
@tarbert363 Жыл бұрын
So difficult to take in the sick detail that this lady is providing and realise the cops just didn't bother to follow up. There are very sick people out there and also very sick families who are downright evil.
@Mandy_76
@Mandy_76 Жыл бұрын
To think if this had been taken seriously is heart breaking. Charles, JJ, Tylee and Tammy may still be alive, may they rest in parade 😢💔
@FernVert
@FernVert Жыл бұрын
If the Chandler police had not been so utterly lazy and had investigated Charles' death properly, it is very likely that JJ, Tylee and Tammy would still be alive. Shame on you!😠
@redwoodrebelgirl3010
@redwoodrebelgirl3010 Жыл бұрын
I agree, 1000%.
@redwoodrebelgirl3010
@redwoodrebelgirl3010 Жыл бұрын
And, if the police had properly investigated the death (murder) of Joseph Ryan, Charles Vallow, JJ, & Tylee would likely still be alive. I am not sure about whether Tammy Day bell would still be alive, if Chad had never met Lori. I think that Chad may have hooked up with some other psycho cult member & killed Tammy anyway. I'm certainly not *_certain_* about that, of course. However, it seems like a very realistic possibility to me.
@Sense_Incensed
@Sense_Incensed Ай бұрын
You forget, Tylee told the police that she was afraid of Charles and got her bat. He took it from her and then, Lori ushered them out. There were no witnesses but the Police believed Tylee and they assumed Charles was the aggressor.
@DVD927
@DVD927 7 күн бұрын
Hindsight is 20/20
@terrylyons3577
@terrylyons3577 Ай бұрын
It's interesting to hear this woman's perspective of what was happening in her life when she was married to Alex and how she views it now. We all accumulate wisdom through the years. She sounds like a very competent well-rounded lady
@hfrt29
@hfrt29 Жыл бұрын
This officer is cracking me up ,,,hes probably like,, what is going on??!!😂
@LtRee96se
@LtRee96se 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow I am not surprised. Those two were very, very close. Well, we will find out someday.
@PicoAndSepulveda
@PicoAndSepulveda Жыл бұрын
She was smart to ditch him when she did!
@nitabrozowski4021
@nitabrozowski4021 Ай бұрын
That repeat of the detective’s voice at the end sounds so creepy…fitting for this insane case as there seems there is no end to amount of “additional information” to this case.
@Germania72
@Germania72 Жыл бұрын
What did I just hear? When I think I've heard everything in this case, there's always something new.
@mynameiseve.1
@mynameiseve.1 Жыл бұрын
What a seriously creepy family! Good that that woman got out so quickly!
@b.neallee7042
@b.neallee7042 Жыл бұрын
That lady is so brave and straight forward. America needs more people like this lady. I believe people want to the right thing. Don't let people suck you into their dark world. Neal
@despicabledavidshort3806
@despicabledavidshort3806 Жыл бұрын
I agree, there's more good in the world than bad
@catgray1
@catgray1 Жыл бұрын
Wow. That was seriously disturbing.
@dianabraley8307
@dianabraley8307 Жыл бұрын
Something very weird was happening in this family. Some people don't have the normal boundaries that most have. Sorry but I just read about an actress that married her first cousin - and being that Mormons used to be into multiple marriages - why are we not believing what she is saying. I don't want to believe that this happens in the world - but unfortunately it probably does.
@KimAhrina11
@KimAhrina11 Жыл бұрын
married with a first cousin is not that something, they're not siblings that come from the same parents/both dad & mom
@graedot
@graedot Жыл бұрын
I suspect that when they were younger something happened between the two. I'm guessing an end was put to it, but the remnants were still there, he never got over it, and she used it to her full advantage!
@zoraidasantiago4471
@zoraidasantiago4471 Жыл бұрын
I live in Puerto Rico and did hear about a mother that would not say were her children were but I really didn't know anything else. But I found this case in KZfaq and everything I have heard about this case has blown my mind, hearing this interview I have 5 brothers and they never did anything inappropriate with me and my sister, but yes I think her brother was in love with her and she knew it and used him to kill her husband this case is more terrifying then any movie I have seen. My heart goes out for those kids that their mother who had to protect them did such a horrible thing, I ask myself how could a mother take the lives of her own children, she is worst than evil, I guess that the devil is really happy.
@lucysmom7404
@lucysmom7404 Жыл бұрын
Listen to the cop…. None of the cops take people warning them about thevallow family serious. The cop sounds skeptical and that is the problem with the entire case.
@yeahB
@yeahB Жыл бұрын
To me he sounds concentrated, is patient and interested, proves it with his following questions. Of course he needs to be sceptical, because it's all hearsa what she's saying I think he did a good job and he knew she's serious and believable
@kadinethelioness3054
@kadinethelioness3054 Жыл бұрын
They would've never stalled for a colored person
@territimmerman140
@territimmerman140 Жыл бұрын
I think what he is doing is fact finding. Its not his job to do anything other than gather the information and ask additional questions to gleen more information. I don't think he's disbelieving anything she's saying.
@Lyddiebits
@Lyddiebits Жыл бұрын
@KadinetheLioness I think this has more to do with LDS Lawyers, money and the church, versus skin color.
@adriel7229
@adriel7229 Жыл бұрын
It's actually good interviewing skills. You don't want to get emotional or excited and encourage the person to exaggerate or speculate or get excited themselves, you just want to elicit the facts and let them provide the information.
@sashachitownvillegas6850
@sashachitownvillegas6850 Жыл бұрын
This is a big part of why OMG this is even more messed up than i had thought....
@19491Tommy
@19491Tommy Жыл бұрын
I watched the investigative tv series around this case . Lori Vallow thought she could talk her way out of murdering her own children, and her brother.
@juliuscaesart
@juliuscaesart Жыл бұрын
This bizarre madness just never ends. Just got done watching the documentary 🤯🤯🤯
@puturro
@puturro Жыл бұрын
The looped phrase at the end makes me think about the last scene of that Howard Hughes film
@Jane-nt3vy
@Jane-nt3vy Жыл бұрын
There are some really weird people in this world.
@kathleenhammett7528
@kathleenhammett7528 2 жыл бұрын
So he probably baited Charles ..
@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags
@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags 2 жыл бұрын
as his sister Master-B'ted her brother, Alex...I think THAT was the big, noisy CALL THE COPS level fight they had out in the street one night years ago....Alex had been gone on the road, didn't have $ for a truck-stop date, so he brought things home to his sister Lori but she was busy trying to figure out how much money she'd gain if she murdered a certain someone.. Alex needed Lori to take care of his stiffie willie....like the one Chad describes in his love novel...Loin Fire....burning hot. As Chad states is a medical FACT about Loin Fire.
@lethalviolet
@lethalviolet 2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeldaZelda-RichesToRags 🤣🤣🤣👌
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