Little Giant Ladder flaw causing major injury. Please fully read the description.

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5 ай бұрын

I'm releasing this video to save someone from having a serious injury. One of the largest attorneys in Springfield, MO said my case wouldn't meet their $300,000 minimum potential payout. They went on to say that they would win hands down though. Thanks a lot. I landed on my elbow and it drove my Humerus through my socket. They couldn't repair my socket but worked on the only tendon left. I gave up softball, fishing hurts my arm, metal detecting is painful. So now I'm just going to post this publicly for all to see and discuss.
Maybe a great attorney will see this and help me out?

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@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

I bought it new and it did this to me the third time I used it.

@eegg6954 Ай бұрын

"...it did this to me..."??? You did it to *you*. You leaned against the top of a ladder that was pivoting on a pivot edge like a gutter or eave. Read a book or watch a video. Basic ladder safety.

@murraytrimmer228 4 ай бұрын

Its got nothing to do with the ladder. It was you applying your weight to the top rung, making the bottom kick out.

@mowerdog 4 ай бұрын

It has everything to do with the joint popping over center.

@murraytrimmer228 4 ай бұрын

A single fixed ladder would do the exact same thing.

@georgemeyer1790 4 ай бұрын

@mowerdog Its got nothing to do with the ladder. It was you applying your weight to the top rung, making the bottom kick out.

@peteryeung111 17 күн бұрын

⁠⁠@@georgemeyer1790 It has everything to do with the joint popping over center.

@johnk3606 5 ай бұрын

You should never lean onto a portion of a ladder that is above the spot it contacts the building at the top. Leverage is a constant and gravity is a b.

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

How do you get high enough to step on a roof?

@admanb2998 4 ай бұрын

The first flaw is you. Leaning on the ladder above the contact point on the roof will cause any ladder to kick out. Basic physics. Oh, and to have your wife stand at the base, knowing the ladder could kick out, is really not smart. That's your second flaw.

@peteowens3033 5 ай бұрын

Sorry that happened to you. Looks like basic physics took over. Applying leverage at the top causes the bottom to move in the opposite direction due to the pivot at the fulcrum which in this case it the edge of the roof or the gutter. Any and all ladders have a similar risk. Anytime you use a ladder like this you should take measures to restrain movement at the base especially when on a hard smooth surface. An effective safety remedy is to use a bolt or clamp on standoff / stabilizer. Position it so it rests on the roof's surface instead of the edge of the front edge of the roof or gutter. This effectively "hooks" the ladder onto the roof preventing it from being able to slide down even if the base loses traction.

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

Yes. If you get high enough to step onto the roof the same thing happens. The over center pop is the danger

@kimpaalua386 4 ай бұрын

@@mowerdog Don't push the ladder at the top when getting on to the roof! Why would you need to do that? No one should be shaking the ladder that way unless they're trying to get worker's compensation. Anything above 4 feet, you should have fall protection to prevent accidents anyway especially when someone is careless! I use the little giant ladder and a bunch of different ladders but never had this problem. Use better safety methods because there's no worker's comp at home!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@michaelmak2326 Ай бұрын

Thanks for posting this. It's a good safety tip for people new to multi-purpose ladders.

@mowerdog 20 күн бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@johnswilley6764 9 күн бұрын

I have an LG Classic which I bought around '96-'97 no problems, however I have roughly 30yrs of experience in the fire service - on ladders up to 110' , and was certified by the state of Fl. and Orange County as an instructor. There are several whom posted immediately below me that address your incident and to their statements I'll add; your climbing was pretty good (especially after your fall) right up to the point at which you leaned forward, then there are numerous errors. You should have at least three rungs above your roof contact point, they serve as a point for you to have a safe control when you depart the ladder. No water, or other substances which could cause you to slip. I saw that you added a stop point (2x4) at the base to stop slippage, but that is not the best thing to do; we have a function referred to as a "butt-man" whose sole function is to stand on the inner aspect of the ladder, between the ground contact and the building holding the ladder while it is being climbed (though I doubt this would have helped you in your demonstrated maneuver, as your weight and leverage would have probably given the same results. I'm sorry for your incident. Many people work around equipment without appreciating the total scope (and I didn't cover all of that here); I've seen death from falling 8' at a construction site, slip and fall in a shower, we even had a firefighter fall 30' during training and it was determined it was due to the slick bottom boots which were worn. I wish you the best of luck and hope your recovery goes well. The fall may have occurred even with a straight ladder but it would have been much less likely; and those straight ladders are far less versatile.

@eegg6954 Ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing this; it will remind users to practice this common-sense caution. While I don't think any material defect was responsible for your injury, your information is a valuable reminder to your viewers.

@xrpxtrariceplease2811 15 күн бұрын

How about using a little giant wingspan for added safety ?

@MetalDetectingwithCZkidd 5 ай бұрын

Are the wheels supposed to be in the air? I used a similar 🪜 like that but Home Depot brand. No issues. Never bought a little giant.

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

Yes

@ItsaboutMakingnotBuying 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for posting this video. It may save a life. Later

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

I was on a second floor deck and took out some of the railing. I could have fell another story!

@brantray9406 2 ай бұрын

Imagine setting the ladder on a horizontal plane. If you applied that type of weight to the short end, it would be like the fat kid on the end of a see-saw!!😂 But seriously, I’ve been working on ladders for 23 years now…try watching a KZfaq video about proper ladder usage. You’re just an idiot.

@mikezurella6174 29 күн бұрын

I’ve used ladders most of my career.. 25+yrs. Fk these ladders! My asshole boss wanted me to use one of these next to power lines and all the way extended with a single run above the gutter.. mind you I’m 230lbs and with the compressor or bag of tools 300+ fk that!!!!! All over the place.. no grip on the feet..bouncing as hell..I’ll stick with a regular extension ladder!! 🖕🏻🫵🏻 boss man!

@mowerdog 29 күн бұрын

Exactly. I've never had an issue with a regular extension ladder in my 35 years of contracting. Don't risk your life!

@robbot9877 5 ай бұрын

You need to learn how to use a ladder. there's no fault there only the way you use it

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

Can you make a video with your Little Giant Ladder so we all can learn?

@robbot9877 5 ай бұрын

@mowerdog i dont care enough to make a videa howeverif you had any experience you'd know that when going above the support point of a ladder it should be secured to the wall and the ground. Try Google for verification.

@robbot9877 5 ай бұрын

@mowerdog Google how to use a ladder and you'll see it must be secured to the wall and ground when going above support point. No hope of winning a suit, user error.

@fredthompson2501 5 ай бұрын

I used these ladders for years. It needs to be secured to the ground. And the building if possible but ground for sure. Osha has good video on ladder safety.

@SilverShadow2LWB 5 ай бұрын

Agreed. This not a product issue for it will also happen with a Gorilla, or Werner ladder. This can also happen on an extendible ladder if you have too much of it over the ladder contact fulcrum point. "Kick-out" will happen more on concrete and wooden decks, and less on a dirt or lawn where the feet can dig-in a little. I have a friend who sets the ladder on 1/4 filled sand bags to avoid this problem. I really like that you did this video for all people need to know about ladder safety. Thank you.

@wmassspeedsoft8832 5 ай бұрын

Get well.

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

My surgery was around 2 years ago. I'm as good as I'm going to get. My shoulder pops and is sore constantly though. But I'm alive.

@genegilstrap612 5 ай бұрын

I hope you get back to metal detecting. I really liked your hunts. Etrac is pretty heavy and I think you have a Manticore now however I find the Deus 2 very light and easy on my arm.

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

I almost went with the D2. But like minelab tones

@GarnetCarmichael 5 ай бұрын

I've shared this on FB, thanks for the warning and I think you'll be compensated, hopefully enough. This clearly is a ladder people need to avoid. ATB

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing. I had another attorney look at the case, and he said it was a cut and dried case. Then he just sat on my paperwork for over a year and didn't do anything. So I asked for my file back and then released the video to help others

@alext8828 5 ай бұрын

75.5 degrees? Why don't they glue a level to the side of it if they want that specific angle. And why that angle??? Any ladder would do that. He doesn't know how to use a ladder.

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

Little Giant ladder says 75.5 degrees. It's not my number. It's the joint that pops back over center that snaps the legs back. If the joint was tight, there would be no over the center break over. A regular ladder will not do that.

@alext8828 5 ай бұрын

@@mowerdog Yes, it's their number, but who uses a phone to get the exact angle? It's ridiculous. If it's that critical, they should use a visual aid. I don't have one in front of me, but I'm gonna trust you that the extension was far enough away from the deck. It looks, from your video, that the legs are not fully seated because of the extension legs are touching the deck too. Probably an illusion from my perspective. I have to say that your wife is so sweet to follow your directions and try not to get in the way. Remember that all ladders are dangerous and will kill you at a moment's inattention. Good luck and stay safe.

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

@alext8828 The extention rails of the ladder are around and inch shorter than the main legs. You can see it in the video if you focus on that area. The ladder shows two ways to set it at the propper angle. One is to set it at 75° (not 75.5 °) I was wrong there. The only way to accurately set it at 75° was my phone app. The other way they show is to stand straight up with your toes touching the ladder feet and putting your arms strait out and grabbing the ladder. I used my phone because it's the most accurate method they suggest. Then they say to extend it approximately 3ft about the abject you're laying the ladder on. You can see in the video that the ladder was set up exactly how they wanted. I've been on extension ladders for 40 years as a remodeling contractor without one incident. When it happened I was dumbfounded because I couldn't initially see anything I did or wrong or anything broke on the ladder. One day the light went off in my head and I knew what the issue was. I recreated the incident on my deck and it happened on the first take. It's a flaw.

@viatranquilla 4 ай бұрын

Is your deck too high..? lol.. It's a good thing you weren't hurt badly..

@chuckpierce5756 5 ай бұрын

Stay off that death trap.

@mowerdog 5 ай бұрын

I haven't used it since the accident 2.5 years ago. I just kept the ladder for any lawsuit.

@BitSmythe Ай бұрын

*NOT a "ladder flaw." This is CLEARLY USER ERROR and lack of understanding how a fulcrum works. If you put your weight over (past) the fulcrum the feet will kick out on ANY ladder. **_LEARN TO USE A LADDER PROPERLY!_*

@mowerdog Ай бұрын

If the joint was tight, it would never happened. Put your ladder up and step on your roof without putting weight at the top of the ladder.

@BitSmythe Ай бұрын

I’m a Home Automation Pro and go up the ladder often. Has never happened.