Haven’t even listened, yet. One thing is certain: Ian Ryan talks sense 🙌🏻

We let 2 games over 4 days undermine 8 months of good work over a season where we overachieved ! Perspective. Transition season, missed our target signings, so many injuries. We are 2 pts off the top spot with 6 games left.

Just waiting on Phil blundel to come out and explain to us that it wasn’t actually that bad of a result

Love the pod. Few mins in and Neil (Jones) has said something I pretty much said to mates after the game. Can we just be boring for once? Are we not capable of having a 2-0 win where 'nothing' really happens? As football fans you live for moments like Nunez Vs Notts Forest but fuck me it seems like for the past few months we've needed 'moments' to win every game. It's not pragmatic to have these moments time and time again.

Going far in 4 competitions absolutely kills us every time at this stage of the season, and it showed Sunday, we look knackered

fantastic production and amazing star studded cast - thank you all. All 4 delivered valuable insights

Best contribution from John ever. He was on it. Gloriously articulate.

We have not replaced Mane or Firmino, it seemed almost every game, Mane or Salah would score the goal we needed and if one was off it the other was on it. They were both available for what seemed like every minute for 3-4 seasons. 2 deadly forwards with bobby behind them making it happen. We rarely destroyed teams even at our peak, we just had 2-3 players that would score the late winner or the early goal to kill a game for a side that had no right playing with us, like Palace at home.

It is perhaps telling that Ornstein is reporting that Edwards and Hughes are paying particular attention to the medical side of things. The medical stuff is often glossed over and players treated like robots. We had 14 players injured and that has led to some players now looking jaded (Mac, Endo) and a shed load lacking match fitness (Ali, Trent, Diogo, Curtis, Grav, Ibou). On top of that lack of match fitness there is a lack of match sharpness. Look at the chances Jones had and Diogo, once in rhythm they put them away in their sleep. I would argue that even Mo is lacking some of that. Our general play lacks fluidity but again that is down to those factors and the constant chopping and changing. Compare us to Arsenal who have been able to play a stable team for months, they look fluid and (until Sunday) were scoring goals for fun. It is something that badly needs to be addressed in the summer. Now the downside has been done let's focus on the positives. Going back to Arsenal, they too were creating shed loads of chances a couple of months back but weren't scoring and once they were settled they did. We are creating the chances and with players now finding match sharpness if we are able to put those same players out again on Thursday we will likely start seeing the rewards. Going back to Arsenal and City, they have 7 players each that have played over 2000 mins of football, we have 1 (Virgil). Those accumulated mins may start to tell in tough places over the next month while, with soo many fresh faces, we could really fire and apply huge pressure while banging in the goals. Our lads are great professionals, they care and they aren't missing chances on purpose, just need some more rhythm. They got us into this position of an unexpected title challenge this early so let's get behind them and go for it. We have a great chance so let's have fun, be positive and have faith in the boys to do it.

Sobo form is shocking. He always plays well and scores for Hungary, though. Nunez should watch Isak on finishing.

“Come on boys, keep it tight, start fast and no fuck ups!”… Then concede the first shot on target after 45 seconds! It’s mental! It’s criminal! It’s negligent!

This team has conceded goals in 22 league matches so far, more often than not conceding first. Our attackers have taken the responsibility to score 2+ goals for most matches regardless. Instead of focusing on that glaring red flag 'fans are scapegoatin attackers.. Also game management has been poor all season under this management as evident of us constantly going 1-0 down , so Klopp shares some of the blame for too. I also believe playing away from home more often from now on will be beneficial to the lads because the home support at Anfield this past month or so has been absolutely woeful!

The chances they've missed all season it's really compounded since the city game

As a fanbase can we also try and not add to this narrative Man City are invincible from here. Maybe they will go on and win every game and if they do, fair play to them BUT in 2022 why were we fighting for the title on the last day? Because we had closed the gap from 8 points in the run-in. On the last day it is often forgotten that City needed 3 goals against Villa's reserve keeper in 15 mins to win it. So, this idea that it is a foregone conclusion isn't necessarily right. They may look like they are playing as robots at times but they are human. They have lost some big moment players - Mahrez and the goalscorer on that day Gundogan for instance. We don't need to build them up anymore than the media already will. We have to do our job and fully go for it - which is no small thing - and see where that leads us in the race against them and Arsenal.

I'm a Reds fan,but can I ask why a great manager like Klopp can't sort out these bad starts. Their killing us this season.

Seems there's been a clear directive for the back line to foot on the ball at the start and draw whomever is opposing us to press hard and have a go. I've never thought this was the best strategy from the off and it's backfired so much.

The major difference (on the pitch) between Klopp's LFC and Pep's MCFC is efficiency. LFC always ran more yards and created more chances for something to EVENTUALLY happen. MCFC runs fewer yards and creates fewer chances for something to ACTUALLY happen. While Pep's possession plan forces a game to open up in a more certain way, Klopp's pressing plan forces a game to open up more reactively with some improv. The solution can be as simple as new instructions for the same players; i.e. 3-Box-3 as a more effective solution with the available players at the back end of 2022/23. It was not noticeable at first, but when you swap Nunez for Jota, Diaz for Mane, and Jones for Thiago we still get hard yards and chances, but not the ruthless efficiency to kill games off our way.

The missing goals from Diaz (8) Nunez (11) has cost us a lot unfortunately.

Why did Klopp change the formula that had been so successful after all the injuries and changes during Jan & Feb? There was an assumption that when key players returned from injury that it would be full steam ahead for the PL title, but understandably they have been off the pace, it takes time. Klopp should have persisted with the combination of experience and youth which saw an 85% win rate in Jan & Feb, compared with 44% since with the more established and experienced line ups!

All teams have targeted our right side whether Trent, Gomez or Conor was the right back, and they had successfully scored most of the time, I think it's a deep problem.

We've had a much more settled teams in the past. Injuries have meant chopping and changing too much at this stage of the season. My front line right now is Elliot, Gakpo and Jota. With the number of games we play these days, a small squad simply is not doable, not with the intense style we play.

Klopp needs to preserve the midfielders with the already burn out they have had with so many games they have played. Go for a 3-4-3 formation to throw the opposition off the cuff. Just drop Salah for 5min role until he shows some effort in these stints. Alisson Quansah-VVD-Gomez TAA-CJ/WE-AM/HE-Robbo Szobo/Diaz-Jota-Gakpo/Nunez

For me Nunez is an instinct striker. When it goes well it is brilliant,but more often than not doesn't work. While watching Isak from newcastle it shows hows knowing where & when to finish can help the team that creates few chances.

I think reality has just bitten tbh....were just not *that* team yet. We lack the clinical edge of Bobby and manè (diaz and nunez try, but they lack real guile) and it's the same defensively we're we can't keep clean sheets...*prime* fabinho, vvd, robbo etc . If anything that combined with the injuries and klopp announcing he's going we've done well to get top 4 and win a cup

Totally agree with neil atkinsons opening salvour on keep going behind and getting away with it. If were all honest as fans liverpools team play and cohesiveness for a good 12 to 18 months with the old and new players has been lacking, we rely alot on individual ability or patches of play to get a result which means we take alot out of ourselves and are grinding for 90 mins to get over the line. Love klopp, in my opinion best manager weve had other than paisley and their wont be a dry eye in the house when he leaves but i think his decision to go now is the right one, its time for a fresh pair of eyes and a change of balance to our play and structure. Lets not get on endo and nunez back to much. Endo been signed for 16 mill, been outstanding, nunez not been great last 2 games i get it, and he needs to step up again next season, misses to many big chances, however i cant see how were trying to set him up for a goal with our patterns of play. Lets hope we can win all the remaining games and see what happens. Up the reds.

2 words…Jaydon Danns Get him in the team At least he’ll kick f*** out of teams like Crystal Palace

Liverpool have been going to the well in most games. City have in-home plumbing. It makes a big difference in the energy left for the run in.

Well you win shirt of the morning Neil. Gonna listen later but good luck folks trying to find something to help us re group. It feels like we've completely blown it ourselves, awful feeling. Come on Father Time, do your work.

What really wound me up was that they played a back 3 that had a RB and midfielder as 2 of their CBs of 3. Not once did they not look like CBs. Didn't take advantage of that at all.

At times the team are just too "nice". Sometimes you just have to take the ball aggressively or if you can't take the man. Teams stroll past us at times (1st half this game in particular)

Why can't we learn? Don't hoof the ball up the field from the kick off. Pass it around and let everyone get a touch. How many times lately do we concede chances at Anfield after 2 minutes of kick off.

incredibly frustrating and disappointing week, but this was a very good show. TAW is often at its best when we've been shit or had a shit week

Neil Jones with the facts.

Neil at 12.00 is spot on

Salah, nunez an diaz miss enough chances in 90 minutes to win 10 games of football and that's not even an exaggeration the shot conversion rate is absolutely fuckin embarrassing! Get jota starting, give gakpo an elliott more game time and danns who's an actual natural finisher!

I wonder what on earth is happening in the dressing room pre-game. They use to come out FIRED UP for matches. Literally the only time it happens now is against City. EVERY game is worth 3 points - City, Brighton, Sheffield United, Palace. You gotta come out the traps and show the other team you mean business, not ‘let’ the other team put their stamp on it.

Salah shite since Afcon! Injured, came back and recently gone through Ramadan, (no issues with it, don’t mean to offend anyone about religion etc) but i feel all that has killed his season. Im open to selling Salah this summer to go in a different direction, but im ok with him stay/signing another extension but he can’t be given a higher wage!

At what point do the excuses for Nunez cease? Two seasons now where he's not performed to a title challenging level and yet there are nothing but endless excuses as to why. I'm not suggesting he's a bad player, he's simply a level below were we are and we will continue to be perennial also-rans until we get a prolific goal scorer at the club and no amount of wishful thinking is going to make that Darwin Nunez. The team is lacking in several areas and the new gaffer is going to have to sort this out once and for all. Give Gapko a run to the end of the season and if he doesn't play himself into a run of form, flog him as well in the summer.

Liverpool right now has a mental problem - we’re lacking confidence which leads to a lack of composure in front of goal - which leads to more misses, slower passes

Nunez - more shots than anyone else in the league and 11 goals. Shit! He needs to go at season's end. Otherwise you're letting Klopp-like loyalty cloud your judgement. When he was subbed and kicked the bench seating after another reds miss I personally was astonished he made contact..

There's little to no coaching going on at the moment, Jurgen has eluded to this himself. At this time they look really badly coached, how can this happen, how can we be pushing towards the end of the season so badly prepared.

These podcasts are my therapy after devastating liverpool performances

It’s all boiled down to lack of investment in Defence .. compare to players we bought at other areas , we haven’t done the same for our defensive unit

Hello darkness my old friend

Our defenders always ball watching (Konate) no eyes on the swivel for attacks breaking. Schoolboy errors. Robbo been letting crosses fly into our box for months. Van Dyke with half hearted blocks have cost us. Our 2 most experienced supposed to set examples but don't. Poor communication everywhere. Our forwards Salah, Diaz, Nunez too cocky when they miss a chance, which puts extra pressure on the others with every missed chance.

Boss show lads

I need to go in terapi try to find some lights

Neil jones is the best guest

Reds were un lucky, they put themselves in position to win this game several times. Just didn't happen, but that's EPL Football. A couple inches each way and this is a totally different discussion.

The manager has had a nightmare with team selection. In his whole time at the club I've never questioned him before until he started Endo again. It's also the first time I thought maybe he's leaving at the right time with a decision like that. My heart sank when I seen the teamsheet before kickoff. Less than 3 days prior the fella was goosed when Atalanta targeted him, and he starts against Palace, another team who targeted him previously. Freshness, energy, mobility, things Klopp strives for, and yet he neglected all that. That DM position is crucial as the anchor of the team. It needs energy and athleticism, someone with mobility who screens the defence, tracks runners, puts out fires (especially in the chaos of a Klopp team), and gives the advanced midfielders the freedom to attack without having to constantly worry about staying close to protect the DM's lack of mobility. The 6 should be doing the donkey work, not having the like of creative talent in Mac to carry his load. Endo wouldn't get in a top ten side in the PL, he wouldn't get in the Palace midfield that's for sure as knowing his weakness they went after him again. To neglect that position has ultimately cost us as we are wide open infront of the defence and as a result we routinely go behind, and having to constantly play catch up in games puts extra strain/pressure on the attackers. Two years ago we should have started rebuilding midfield, instead we did nothing (Jurgen trotted out 8 midfielders we had in that August 2022 press conference, most of whom were crocked or finished). We tried to cram it all in last summer but failed to bring in the key DM with some last minute buying, it was terrible planning. With no defensive solidity from midfield we are vulnerable in every game. Mac, Dom and Curtis are the best midfield three (Harvey as sub), and while it's not ideal having Mac in the 6 its alot better than carrying a fella who can't track runners and puts the whole team under pressure. Our four best years under Klopp defensively was 2018 to 2022, prime Fabinho. When he fell off a cliff, we fell off a cliff. He's brought in advanced midfield players to do the running but that can't make up for the slow 30 year old fella in behind them. The gaping hole in midfield against Man U from Casirmiro's looped pass when they went 2-1 up, he's just not got the mobility to cover the ground. So passive, constantly trailing midfield runners, and that first half vs Palace had his name all over it, as the Atalanta game did. Like Newcastle away (in his first start) we were transformed when he went off, the energy level ramped up. The Endo experiment is over, and sadly with it Klopp's era.

There's a conversation to be had around cutting our losses on Darwin, saying he's only 24 doesn't stack up. Isak is also 24 and has played in the league a similar time and is on 17 for the season.

It's took this long for everybody to realise we are the worst team in the first 15 mins of the game and the worst in the last 15. its a stat that's been staring us in the face but not been addressed all season until now.

John: If...if...if...if my aunt had a pair of bollocks, she'd be my uncle. Disclaimer: Probably _not the best_ sarcasm in 2024

Why is Gomez not considered anymore a center back, he was once the best in the league paired with Van Dijk before getting injured and he is miles better than Konaté, second for me would be Quansah.

I can accept losing to Madrid at home, but not Palace or Atlanta. WE made them look good. Sorry, but why did he have to play Endo who has looked shot? Play Harvey or the kids again. Neil is bang on. Change the system or play a low/mid block etc. Definition of madness...Klopp has reverted to his stubborn ways of picking his favourite out of form players. No wonder some are absolutely shattered. Tired minds make poor decisions.

I love Neil Atkinson's analysis, however in the last video and this video he's building Palace up to be jam packed with fantastic players which they simply aren't. 🙄 Yes, they have 2-3 very good players. However the reality is before they played us they were teetering in the relegation zone with 30 pts having played 31. They've scored 37 goals and conceded 54. Won 8 out of 32. Whatever way you look at it Palace aren't a good side.😬

Andy Robertson cleared that ball off the line. Hes kinda reversed that misfortune imo. Still, Fs.

Love darwin love all the chaos and that but hes really starting to piss me off. He needs to start scoring its not good enough!

Jones loss ezu for the first goal and obviously did poorly with his couple shots,apprently lpool taken 168 more shots to get the same amount goals as Newcastle!

The defence has cost us for 4 years

You people keep blaming the players. These players have dead muscles and can not control the ball or run. MANCITY has two complete teams with full strength ready for different games. It is the corruption that MC is bringing to EPL taken the competition to unreachable level because of the financial.

Neil Jones misses a simple point for me. As good as Gapko is and GAPKO shines when he comes on as a sub after 65 mins. I find it disingenuous to keep criticizing Nunez, when Salah did no work on Sudnay, did not defend of press. Nunez came back from Injury against Forest and got us points, Diaz, Nunez ,Mac Alister Endo, work rate is phenomenal. Macca + Endo have not had any rest have they??

Too much emphasis on selection, fitness and individuals. We’ve seen the same systematic issues for 3 years now. Even in the quad season those issues were extremely obviously especially post January. Then last year the legs went and exposed the issues with the system even more. There’s is something to be said about the coaching, tactics and system imo and it gets brushed over too much. The system is very good but it’s not the world beating elite system it used to be. Arsenal should not look like a better coached team than us but they do. We rely on individuals and the attack way too much.

Going behind all the time. Seems to be stemming from turning over possession an being overloaded down the channels. Midfield for me are playing shite, apart from alexis. Szloz has been so shite since that 1 good goal he scored early in the season. Endo looked slow AF at the weekend. In fact he was a spare part against that palace team. Wasn’t needed. At times macalister was 3 yards away from him because he was dropping into endos areas. Wouldn’t mind seeing us try another formation now and then (not after losing and reacting) we’re too easy to play against, low block and counter down our right.

Thanks for the content

Brilliant as always lads........ The stuff about the protest at the end, my thoughts exactly. Some of the comments from "supporters" online haven't shocked me cos lots of our fanbase don't go every game, don't have ST's so there not bothered paying the extra a few times a season. We've had all the OOT stuff in the past, remember the marches against H&G ,how many people stood there filming rather than join the march, i couldn't believe their attitude then and I still don't believe the attitude now. We will always be there, players , managers will come and go we won't. The club sell the club on us, don't bite off the hand that feeds you.We must stand up to them, we didn't get beat by Atlanta because of the flags FACT

Shockingly average up front, schoolboy type defending watching the ball not the men coming in....I'm ready for a new manager. Klopp era has been really wonderful but he is right, his race is run. Looking forward to a new manager who hopefully coaches defending as well as attacking.

Sick of this fan base constantly blaming darwin tbh, hes allways the one who gets singled out when its not just him and people wonder why hes confidence is always shot

Szobo has fallen off a cliff. Whats happened?

The manager leaving has naturally put the squad in a spin especially the senior players same thing happened when Fergie was leaving in 2001

Haven't won more than 5 in a row.

Neil all year, ‘we’ve got the best attack in the league’. ‘Get Konate in the team’. If you actually listen to what this melon says every week, the opposite happens or it’s a load of crock, he hasn’t a clue but the way he speaks sounds convincing

Atm Liverpool can't score goals, can't defend, can't control games, too emotional during games. Yeah it's so over. Completely bottled it at the pivotal part of the season.

Fans media protecting the owners and PGMOL. Blaming players and klopp. We should have been at least 6 points clear. Not gonna watch EPL anymore...its all money and greed.

I miss Sadio Mane.

Making excuses for Salah. Scathing of Darwin. Salah has been a lot worse. This is unfair analysis.

truly truly Shocking up Front .. Nunez - sorry NOT champions League Quality. No way !! Salah - his time has gone !!!.. Robbo - time has gone. also NEIL a . correct teams .. know Our Right is weak / Left is weak ....

Klopps had a free this season as it’s his last and the press like him. Any other time he’d be under massive pressure to keep his job. We could just defend for twenty then play?

Got to sell Nunez Salah Thiago Matip Tsimikas got to no blowing smoke arses u must sign 3-4 quality players RB CDM and a WING blend with the youth then go win the league