It's OK for someone half sensible.

Its all bullshit. Get a Tesla and the infrastructure is just fine.

That’s why I stress that Hybrid vehicles are the best option!!! It will be decades before any country has a reliable grid. Even then the cars have decades before battery tech is better.

@@neil78b that is such out of Touch bullshit. Tesla superchargers are everywhere and sluin hybrids are made for idiots who are willing to pay for maintenance free technology.

This was a big deal breaker for me which is why I bought a m3 long range.

Same. Tesla owner since a year back. I've been across Europe a couple of times. No issues. Always works. Admittedly, you'll have to plan your charging route (or rather, the car does it for you), so it's not like zero restrictions, but honestly, it really isn't an issue at all.

I pretended to shop around but the SC network meant I could only buy Tesla. No plugs in my public parking. So lucky I went that way. I subscribed to the 3rd party networks around, including local government sponsored ones, to see if I could charge closer but what a broken cluster...f. I feel sorry for anybody that buys a non Tesla :-( Phillip.

That and 90% of Tesla owners are homeowners with chargers.

i dont understand all of these folks buying other cars than Lexuses, maybe one day they realize

@@konstantintourov7654 very very ugly front.. thats why

Thanks for your input since I haven't come across a person that owns an electric vehicle which usually tells the whole story and not just the hype. It makes sense that it would be perfect for around town, but on long road trips, I can see the aggravation it can be when trying to charge the vehicle. As more EVs are on the road, the quicker the charging stations will fill up since these cars can't charge fast enough to be ready for the next route. Just do the math. I've done research on all the charging station along my route with both Tesla supercharger and Electrify America and both are still few and far between compared to gas stations. Some of them are a ways in from the highway which would add more stress in driving.

@@maxkonig559 Exactly. Not only that but I personally think charging stations are more dangerous. More people fill up at gas stations, so it gets more traffic, unless you're filling up in the middle of no where or at odd times at night, there will be some people there. As for charging stations, there are not as much traffic and it does not take 5 minutes to charge. Imagine having to sit inside your car at night for an hour while trying to charge your car up... Then there's reliability issues. Most gas stations will work or have a few pumps out of service. Charging stations are a toss up. Some only have 2-3 chargers and all of them can be out of service. At least with gas stations, you can just find another one down the road if the first one has issues, but with charging stations, there may not be another one for miles. So if you don't have enough range to reach the next charging station, you're screwed.

Your comment makes so much sense. We're renting a home at the moment - trying to figure out whether or not to sell our rental and buy something closer to home (we live in Marin County now, but relocated from Chicago - left SF for 2 years and came home - the market there is horrible, so we kept it hoping....). We have an '18 BMW 530i, which has been an absolute dream to drive. I love it, love it, love it. It puts friends Tesla model S's to shame, honestly - the fit and finish on Tesla is just embarrassing. I've been seriously considering selling the BMW outright and buying an Audi Q4 e-tron - to capture the $7500 tax credit which would be lovely, and save on not buying fuel. But...... it's the not having dedicated charging. Your comment has given me pause. Thank you.

@@user-ij9bs9ke9j Check out the Genesis GV60. It's not out here in the US yet, but it's a very strong contender.

@@BN99239 I’ll keep my eyes peeled. Thanks!

Correct petrol and diesel was the best thing invented and all of a sudden it's no good electric will take over eventually but at moment just not enough charging points my mate got a new hybrid octavia and not many chargers about nothing faster than just filling up for miles and miles 😀

There is nothing wrong with the car. What the manufacturers have to learn is that they can’t expect people to buy their wonderful cars and leave the network for someone else to build. Thing is Tesla realised this eight years ago and this remains the greatest strength of Tesla vehicles - the network is available and reliable and just works. Contrast every other network and every reviewer who tries to rely on non Tesla networks.

the problem is Brian the tec is moving so fast no car will be worth hanging on to its all down to two things range and efficiency I'm afraid the electricity price is only going one way which will make manufactures make cars more efficient, miles per KWh will be the new mpg and a 2.6 ton Audi wont cut it! bit like the first mobile phones lol

There's nothing to learn. Building a DC charging network for people to charge publicly doesn't make any sense at all. It's a silly boondoggle. It's not economically viable.

No .. you’re the genius .. seriously well done .. bravo sir !

What did you get?

why not install a charger at home?

Agreed! I also have had one for over a year, I charge at home, and I actually have an Audi, he must have been using the included charger either on 120v, or at 50% capacity. 6 hrs on a level 2 and the thing is nearly full from dead.

When I pay 100k + or a "car" I won't accept limitations... lol

@@j0404t bring your home when you travel.

which country are you from?

Looks like they lost a lot of value in a year

Haha thanks!

You're a plonker as well then!!!

That is not true.

@@StevenHaggis why?

Who has range as a priority? My EV has a larger range than any ferrari....

Or just get a Tesla. Range matters, but charging speed, reliability and charging network as just as important. Tesla has you covered.

If you drive an ICE vehicle you have NO choice but to fill up at a Service Station and pay the going rate for Petrol (how much is it now?). If you have a BEV you have comparatively complete freedom to “fill-up” ANYWHERE, like at your home! So you never have to visit a Service Station ever again. If you are fortunate enough to be able to easily charge at home over-night using cheaper off-peak electricity then it’s a bargain (even better if you have Solar PV at home). I have had an EV for over a year most daily travel is 50km. I have only been on extended long trips maybe 3-4 times in last year ( in my Audi e-tron 55 Sportback), and never been an issue using a fast charger.

It is happening in Hungary right now xD

If you can afford this car you can afford to get your own charge pump at home

Until now I've had no waittime at all for recharging my car (road trip 1280 km one way). Simply plug in (at an ionity 350 KW station), start the charge. Going to the toilet (necessary anyway...when filling with petrol you have to do this AFTER refilling, not during refilling), taking a coffee/ lunch and than the car was already waiting for me instead that I was waiting for the chargesession in my car.(Only once in 2 times 1250 km road trip the car was just at the end of the session when I returned to the car all other session the car was ready before me.) Also, in holiday time, I've seen waiting queues for the petrol stations which guaranteed a longer waiting time before starting to refill the car than I needed to recharge ...especially at border station with relativ cheap fuel compared to the next country. Oh, I do not drive this much to expensiv audi etron...expensiv in price and using to much energy/km (see testvideo's on the Tesla Bjorn/ Bjorn Nyland channels). But I charge in optimal situation from 10 - 80% in 18 minutes...and yes, this advertiement is correct, but only under optimal conditions. In sub optimal conditions the same charging is maybe 25 minutes...or some less. When really cold (test video's) it can be 30 minutes at most. Also my car will not slow down until below 4% charge....in no way under 25%. And you're infra complains? Well, when the first petrol cars came on market there was no infra structure for petrol. It did not stop selling those cars. Even , short before 1960, my parents had to look and plan carefully on a holiday to France where they could refill the car.... (At this moment in Europe we do have enough locations for recharge.....but when more people switch to EV those numbers must be increased.)

But the reality is all petrol stations do have petrol, what a stupid analogy.

an EV you cannot charge is like a a really nice ornament that looks nice but completely USLESS !

V ery well said! Our mindless politicians in the US think they can force people into EVS by stifling the oil supply and jacking up gas prices. They are causing inflation and endorsing an unrealistic scenario that can cripple the country. EVs are untenable if you cannot charge at home

It's gonna come to this waiting hours to charge gonna take years to be charging points every where waste of the time if you live in an apartment or flat no where to charge petrol and diesel was the best thing invented all of a sudden it's no good now fill tank in a couple of minutes for miles and miles of driving

Cars are not failing ..... Your government is

@@raymondvaughan6262 At present, yes. But in just a few years, when only a few million EVs are on the road, petrol stations will be uneconomic and you’ll be in the same quandary with ICE cars. There’s a tipping point. Having said that I suspect the forward thinking service stations will have chargers soon. Also, remember that your thinking changes with an EV: since the car, for people with garage or driveway parking, the car can be “full” every morning. It’s only on long trips that filling is necessary.

Or...you buy a Tesla 😉

@@jbogren no thanks to the lot. Looks terrible for me and having to go to a screen to open a glove box is a no for me

None of this is true. What made you think this was true?

@@Lewis_Standing Oh you know...physics, maths, facts, reality. Thats sort of thing.

Well once upon a time we only had one airport in this country, in fact it was the first airport in the planet. And now people have airports in their backyards. The electric infrastructure will grow little by little.

@@nelauren Yeah , powered by wind. HaHa.

911 T S any day for me over this E crap, well dune on getting a real car

Legend. Respect ✊🏻😁

I have ev6 gt line awd 0 to 60 4.5 easy

Also my thoughts....but choosen for the ioniq 5 limited (first edition). Bought form paper and the world wide presentation as one of the few who were in time to palce an order. But not my first EV. That ioniq...even as this full opt premium version, does cost only 40% of the etron (also full opts...thus including all extra's). 0-60 just under 5 seconds , 0-100 km/h in just over 5 seconds...but a totally unneccessary accelerating. Never used this in full. The 7,3 seconds is what my previous EV could do...that is good for all daily travelling...including entering on hghways with enough speed.

Suppose you wanted to go a trip to the Isle of Skye, see the nice scenery? You are stuck with a commuter only vehicle that does nothing else.

@@boogboog8097 If you have only one car in your family, then yes, it’s not advisable to have an electric car only, which it’s not my case and it allows me to optimize 90% of my miles that are actually commute and not having to pay and waste gasoline for the possibility of a few days in a year. But if you are a weekend warrior that likes to drive further to scenic locations beyond the autonomy of an EV, then it’s not advisable to own an EV. So, I am not stocked and if I ever am there’s always a car rental around. I’m passionate on cars and love the rumbling of a good old V8, but I also appreciate the unique dynamics and the precise power distribution of an Electric car. Know what you like and love and stick to it ,regardless of everybody else preference.

@@javierpereira7580 What gets me is the false green narrative of EV virtue signalling while the real political agendas are pushing remaining oil reserves to China India and far east where the big banks and investment funds see future growth and profits. It's not about the "white privileged" westerners saving the planet.

@@boogboog8097 Sorry, I don’t get engage in political discussions or conspiracy theories. I have better things to do with my time. My experience with EVs is very positive and it is as valid as if yours it is not.

@@javierpereira7580 OK you think politicians who spent 30 years destroying the middle east suddenly woke up caring about greta thunberg and sea turtles...

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What electricity company give you electric at 5p a kilowatt? Ok a few might give you cheap electric at night for about 4 hours but is there one that what gives you it all night.

@@talkthethings7376 I said “mostly” I’m on Octopus go and get 4 hours every night at 5p per KWh

@@talkthethings7376 what car and network you on?

I think you will find the charging rates are on the up

I have the e-tron 50 with regular 20" wheels, range is 130 in winter, nearly 200 in summer. If you need more range, the Tesla LR or cars that displace less air...

And who the hell drives 100 miles each and every day? It’d be a very small percentage of the driving population that does that! In fact global statistics are something like 95% of people travel way less than 50km per day. Just about every BEV in the market could handle that range, and if you can charge over night at home your laughing as you have a Full car every morning and paid 1/4 or less for equivalent cost of fuel.

@@johncanalese588 if this is an only car for a person or family that happens a lot in terms of travelling longer distances…. Hence my comment.

@@wheelsandwatches You clearly didn’t comprehend my statement. I quoted statistical observation - I’m sure they included those “families” you mentioned in their data gathering.

@@johncanalese588 I did but that is not exactly real world use is it. People do drive longer journeys, maybe not every week. Maybe only once a month and as such a one car household would find an EV a hassle on such occasion.

@@wheelsandwatches Mate, I live in Sydney, Australia and have owned my Audi e-tron for over one year and range is NOT a problem. Could we do with more chargers, yes of course and they will come As you would understand we have great distance to travel over here and I have done a few trips with legs of about 400km (which is nothing in Oz), and I’ve fared just fine. I stop at a fast charger and in less 20mins I’ve got 200km range while I’ve had a break for drink, lol etc. don’t know where your fear is coming from.

me too!

I do round trips of 250+ miles to remote places, almost every day. I’m in the UK

I've done 4000-5000 mile trips in the U.S. with my EV. What's mythical about it?

Definitely depends on where you are even in the US. California as charging stations everywhere and EVs are dime a dozen. It makes perfect sense in ridiculous California traffic jams for a lot of people on the west coast.

Agree. EV’s will get there though

What do you think will replace ICE ? Hydrogen?

Hydrogen looks like a possibility, but it could be something completely different. Maybe a totally different energy storage will allow EVs to work better. It’s interesting to see how brilliant a car like this is in so many ways, but useless where it really matters.

@@peterf5318 rubbish, as said in this video ( and frankly this is one inefficient heavy EV ) whats currently letting EVs down is the charging infrastructure ( BP Pulse being one of the worse, hmm a petrol company I wonder why that is then ?) Tesla have proved it can be done and battery technology is evolving at such a pace now its inevitable you'll all be driving EVs. Hydrogen is inefficient to produce ( vast amounts of electric used to produce it and then the hydrogen engine isn't as a EVs motor ). It just someone to oversee the charging infrastructure . I have a EV that I charge at home using solar panels , Can't do that with hydrogen .

I watched an interesting video about how JCB are investing in hydrogen powered vehicle research. It might be that battery technology changes quickly, but unlikely very soon given all the investment. A solar panel to charge a car in the U.K.? You’re kidding, surely? I hate to tell you but it’s not sunny very here and we have long dark winters. Nope, not going to happen soon.

@@peterf5318 I already do, yes spring/ Summer my panels turn out around 23kwhs , yes there are days the are less efficient, but over a week its more than enough for allot of peoples needs , winter is different a good day may only make 6kwhs , but spring/Summer I'm literally driving on sunshine .

That’s almost everywhere in the UK. I lived there for 2 years and it was the worst driving experience in my life. Brits are used to driving on them, so they don’t realize the insanity that they live in. When you ask them why roads are so narrow they hit you with the “it’s from Roman times” excuse. The reality is this is a systemic issue of incompetence, traditionalism and lack of desire to change that plagues the culture of the country.

That's why Tesla is winning - their charging infrastructure is first rate.

@@ckm-mkc yeh, and Tesla is on the verge of opening up their Supercharger Network to third-parties! They HAVE to because they are losing money and CANNOT get government grants and handouts for charger infrastructure for their Private network.

In a few years time the powers that be will catch up and tax the help out of you. In five years time EV will be the next Diesel. Or will it....... either way they will tax the hell out of you.

@@davidowen2859 No denying that, so I am taking advantage while I can. 400 miles today, home and public charging in an eTron 55, a relatively "thirsty" EV at 2.8 miles per kWH, with winter tyres,, it cost me £3,57 at home and £22.85 at Ionity (including contribution towards monthly subscription) - in my previous petrol car it would have cost me around £110, the EV was less than 25% of the cost. All those debating it, are losing out and by the time they come to accept it, it will be too late. The fewer people adopt EV's the longer the financial benefits remain, IMO..

@@philhartley7564 Theres no denying your figures and if it works for you great. I have a Panamera ehybrid and accept it costs but I love my V6. I also have two other Porsches, a bit of a petrol head. I tried to embrace electric but didn't like the lack of connection to the car. The Taycan Turbo S range in winter in spirited driving could be as low as 160 miles even careful driving no better than 240. I live on the east coast and virtually no chargers. Certainly no fast chargers. There are no other electric cars that come close to doing it for me so I went completely the other way and changed to a 911 Turbo S. If or when range gets to a realistic 500 miles on a car that excites me then I might take the plunge. However I can't see how the charge network will keep up. If as they say the network will triple over the next 5 years but EV ownership will increase by 20 times. Maybe solid state and battery swap. Or maybe Hydrogen. Theres a lot of maybe's. I'm 58 soon and I think the ICE will be around for at least 20 so then I will be 78 and get a Porsche electric wheel chair.🤪

@@davidowen2859 A great bunch of cars, the Panamera eHybrid was an option for me before I went full EV. You and I are lucky, we can afford (it seems) the get cars we want. I also have a naturally aspirated v8 convertible which used to be my daily but is now my fun/sun car. Keeping the miles lower and enjoying it on roads/trips that suit. Most of my daily driving is on the motorway at motorway speeds and spirited driving doesn't really come in to it. Comfort, noise and luxury do, hence the eTron. The cost comparison between the 400 mile trip in that and the v8 on super unleaded, is even greater - probably around £100, no contest when you do 25,000 miles year, mostly on A roads or motorways. I take your point about the charging network. There are a few critical issues here, 1) how they can work out effective street parking 2) what % charge primarily at home 3/ what % can charge at work and so on. I don't have the answers, I don't have the foresight but the exponential increase in car sales does not, IMO, require and equal increase in public chargers. Personally, I think road pricing will be the new tax for motorists, that's the only reason I can see whether pursue smart (idiotic) motorways so much. You don't need rapid chargers near home (I assume you will be able to charge at home) you need them around 150 miles away from home on your main routes away. You leave home with a 80% to 100% charge, as I do. Travelling to Norfolk is one of my cheapest trips - destination charging at Sprowston Manor means I do 404 miles return trip for around £4.10. I'm older than you but a hovering mobility sounds right - could be fun!

@@philhartley7564 Thanks for your detailed response. You cant beat a NA V8, do you mind me asking what you've got? The Porsche cars I have at the moment have got me close to a GT3 allocation. I'm keeping the Panamera for another year, its turned out to be the best car I've ever had. Like you I've reached the point where I can let the purse strings loosen a little and enjoy cars. I have a Lotus Emira first edition supposedly arriving later this year and a 911 GTS early next year. My wife drives a Macan S so we have the family car. I'm on the verge of semi retirement so longer journeys may become less which may lead me into an EV. Surprisingly one of my longer private journeys is also to Norfolk. We have family in Gorelston. According to the charger maps there seem to be very few chargers down that way but take your point about chargers around 150 miles from home. Would be interested in hearing about your EV journey as time passes and hopefully network gets better.

Yeah it’s a shame!

😂😂😂I’ve owned a Tesla for a very long time now. Charge from home and when I’ve ever used supercharger I’ve never qued. Talking out your arse 🤣

@@madmike6266 Triggered! That may be the case for yourself, but I've seen plenty queuing at service stations around the country and in Europe. Take a chill pill before spewing nonsense from your own rear end!🤭

@@LEgoiste unless you’re doing long road trips every day, charging at home is all you need. Long road trips do need planning and require hopping between chargers.

17,000 miles in 7 months in an EV, never seen a queue at a Tesla charging station in all those motorway trips and charging stops

@@LEgoiste He's just living up to his YT name, living life mad. A recipe for an early heart attack, IMHO.

Cheaper to charge at home 🏠