Why Romania & Hungary Hate Each Other

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Living Ironically in Europe

Living Ironically in Europe

2 жыл бұрын

In this video we dissect the complex relationship between the EU's biggest rival countries, Hungary & Romania. And we take a look at their shared history in the region of Transylvania where conflict never seems to be afar and I try to explain why things are as they are between the two nations.
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@Izual001
@Izual001 2 жыл бұрын
Here is a joke about it: In 1941, Roosevelt's telephone rings. He picks it up. "Who is it?" "Here is the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. Hungary joined Nazi Germany and declared war on us." "Do they have a reason?" "They have territorial claims against Romania." "Is Romania our ally?" "No, they are allied with Hungary."
@mvaczulin
@mvaczulin 2 жыл бұрын
I know a more ellaborate version with added absurdity: -Sir, the Kingdom of Hungary has declared war on us. -That's not great news. Who is their king, who should I address, if I want to negotiate? -They don't have any, the country is under the regency of Admiral Horthy. -Well, how strong is their fleet then, are they a threat to our naval forces? -Sir, they don't have a navy to speak of, other than a few river boats. -Okay, why did they join the war, do they have territorial disputes with anyone? -Yes sir, with their allies Slovakia and Romania. -U serious?
@davidboday7093
@davidboday7093 2 жыл бұрын
The hungarians join ww2 becouse the soviets are bombing the city of Kassa and it was under hungaryan occupie becouse of the first wiene award.
@glagolglagolov8935
@glagolglagolov8935 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't soviet troops bombed Kosice, it is very stupid to involve at war with you one more country. It was a special action between Germany, Romania and Miklosh Horty's government to involve Hungary in WW2 on Axis side. Kosice was bombed by hungarian pilots (!) with German bombers from Romania's territory in agreement with Miklosh Horty.
@markymark7247
@markymark7247 2 жыл бұрын
It's even dumber than that. After Germany declared war on the USA, the secretary of state and Hungarian ambassador desperately tried to figure out how to avoid declaring war because both knew there was 0 point to it. Unfortunately, Hitler's suicide pact was in full swing and Hungary became the second to last country the US has declared war on. Who was the last? Why Romania of course!
@hondacbrification
@hondacbrification 2 жыл бұрын
Must be a Romanian joke for Hungarians have no claims to Transylvania since it was always Hungarian still it is and always will be.While Romanians unfortunately can’t even decide who they are or from which southern country they have come from while claiming that the land was always they as being descendant of Dutch,SaKSon,Romans,Romani ….with a ArMenian flag.
@FranzJosephI.
@FranzJosephI. 2 жыл бұрын
This feud between Hungary and Romania always reminds me that during WW2 both nations were allies and that when an hungarian division was next to an romanian on there was always a german division between them, because they feared that they woud not support each other when the soviets attacked or even attack each other.
@bacsibela8966
@bacsibela8966 2 жыл бұрын
When the US gets the declaration of war from Hungary, Roosevelt asks his attache: -Why would they declare war on us? -Because they want to reannex Transylvania. -Do we have control over Transylvania? -No. -So who has Transylvania now? -The Romanians. -So they are on our side? -No, they are on Hungary's side.
@blede8649
@blede8649 2 жыл бұрын
@@bacsibela8966 Wasn't it Hungary that had Transylvania when the US entered WW2 (via the Vienna Diktat/Second Vienna Award) ?
@teodorgeorgescu9291
@teodorgeorgescu9291 2 жыл бұрын
@@blede8649 they only controlled the northern part, funny thing is the land they got only had 1/3 of the hungarian population in Transilvania, the rest was still in Romania. So the Vienna diktat was extremely retarded and a way for the nazis to get Hungary and Romania as allies
@martonhalasz
@martonhalasz 2 жыл бұрын
@@teodorgeorgescu9291 We paid the price for it... we lost the 1. army and the 2. army get battered after Stalingrad. When we wanted to leave and peace talk with the Sovjets, hearing this Hitler just made a force occupation and making the Hungarian version of the Gestapo and SS. Remind you that we were happy what we got and we wanted to leave the war. Its not for dumb reasons that April 4 is called Liberation day. That's the day when Sovjets "Liberated" us from the Reich,s tight grip but that just replacement of 1 tyrani whih another one. If covid over there is a place called "House of Terror, been there once...can't forget it. The building itself was Nyilas and the VHO-s headquarter. Political Torture and execution building from the White (Nazi) and from the Red (Sovjet) era
@andrashorvath6300
@andrashorvath6300 2 жыл бұрын
@@teodorgeorgescu9291 I'm not arguing that the Vienna borders were made in a way to bring both Hungary and Romania to the Axis side but the new borders actually got most of the Transylvanian Hungarians in it. Hungarians at the time clearly made up the majority population at the northern part of the Hungarian-Romanian border (think the Satu Mare-Oradea area) and in Székelyföld and those were now in Hungary, about 1,1-1,3 million people, depending on who made the census. Compared to that, 'only' about 2-300.000 Hungarians were left in Romania. The problem was that between those areas, there lived roughly the same number of Romanians as Hungarians (again, either slightly more or less depending on who made the statistics, plus there was a huge ass population movement immediately after Trianon and a smaller but still significant one after the Vienna Awards).
@whitequeenofficial3498
@whitequeenofficial3498 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Hungarian from Transylvania. I love living here, and the only hate I've ever encountered was online. Just let us be, folks, us Transylvanians are used to different ethnicities living together (somewhat) peacefully.
@andreicrisan5526
@andreicrisan5526 2 жыл бұрын
Online, and almost invariably from Romanians and Hungarians who aren't from Transylvania, I'm willing to bet.
@es4666
@es4666 2 жыл бұрын
First time I’ve heard this was online and my parents are Hungarian and Transylvanian. It’s the Turkish and Russians that I’ve always been warned against - meh.
@notyourdaddude1957
@notyourdaddude1957 2 жыл бұрын
You are a hungarian from Hungary? or a szekely? because this are 2 different things.
@alburu9528
@alburu9528 2 жыл бұрын
If you are a Hungarian from Transylvania that means you are a Romanian ! or you can do a TEST , go in hungary and fill up your car`s tank and see if they allow you if not that means you are ROMANIAN ! :)))))
@whitequeenofficial3498
@whitequeenofficial3498 2 жыл бұрын
@@alburu9528 thanks for the demonstration, this was exactly the type of comment I was talking about xoxo
@blankamagnolia2994
@blankamagnolia2994 2 жыл бұрын
My grandmother's family lived in Transylvannia as Hungarians. After the World War I they obviously lost everything, lands, house to the Romanians. Part of the family moved to Hungary, part remained in now Romania. She obviously was sad about what was lost, but I never heard her saying anything bad to individual Romanians. In the 70-ies the family visited back, and she only remembered the good times. I have had the chance to work together with Romanians in the UK, and they were great colleagues and good friends. There is no hatred or animosity, it's only fuelled by malice and bad intention. We are two nations sharing the same lands, have common culture and tradition. This land is not ours, we are borrowing it from our children. It is our responsibility to teach them the values of mutual respect and acceptance, while understanding that haters are going to hate.
@bogdanioan5035
@bogdanioan5035 Жыл бұрын
Mergeți fraților în Ungaria cu toții.. Nu mai aveți ce face în țara asta prăpădită.. Sperăm ca într-o bună zi Ardealul să nu mai depindă de București..
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 Жыл бұрын
Very, very well said!
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 Жыл бұрын
@@bogdanioan5035 București e un oraș; nu ia decizii. Decizii iau liderii politici: Iohannis (președintele țării și lider de facto al PNL, ardelean), Orban (ex-prim-ministru, ex-șef PNL, ardelean), Bode (lider PNL, ardelean), Barna (ex șef USR, ex-partid guvernare, adrelean), Cioloș (ardelean) etc.
@rekhytdemon6884
@rekhytdemon6884 Жыл бұрын
​@@bogdanioan5035Românii ca tine strică țara mai mult decât parlamentari
@lacavalloelmundo8295
@lacavalloelmundo8295 Жыл бұрын
​@bogdanioan5035 Sadly Hungary is also going into the same bad way. Corrupt politicans robbing out everything.
@thekaiserhun
@thekaiserhun 2 жыл бұрын
He is the first youtuber who can actually pronounce "magyar"
@Mladjasmilic
@Mladjasmilic 2 жыл бұрын
In Serbian word for Hungarian in Mađar/Madjar, which sound very similar to Hungarian word Magyar. But Serbian is closer to be pronounced like Mad-jar. Hungarian consonant is a bit softer.
@pim5617
@pim5617 2 жыл бұрын
"magyarization" is my new favorite word.
@williamfox8795
@williamfox8795 2 жыл бұрын
And also “Székely!”
@goatsonhun
@goatsonhun 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he is a hungarian
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mladjasmilic Mad jar : ))) I met only calm ones :)
@madalinmoraru633
@madalinmoraru633 2 жыл бұрын
As a Romanian living in Transylvania from Brașov (Really close to Székelyföld) and studying in Cluj-Napoca (Kolozsvár) which has a large Hungarian minority I can say that Transylvanians either Romanian, Hungarian or Saxon really get along with each other and the problem is the way Hungarians from Hungary or Romanians from Moldavia or Wallachia see this problem. Transylvania has always been a very diverse region with 8 ethnic groups (Romanians, Hungarians, Székely, Saxons, Swabs, Gypsies, Greeks, Jews) and 5 religious confessions (Orthodox, Catholic, Lutheran, Calvin, Unitarian + the Jewish religion). I actually learn Hungarian at university since I already speak German. My father always told me that if you live in Transylvania you should know how to speak Romanian, Hungarian and German. Hate is propelled by people who refuse to understand each other or who do not know what they are talking about.
@barnabasadany1795
@barnabasadany1795 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a post about this on reddit The defferent ways Hungary and Romania picture the life of the people. Hungary's side was that the steriotipical Romanian was abusing the Hungarian and revers in Romanian The reality is that they get along with each other. The problem is the Hungarian government making all the wrong moves in every way possible As a Hungarian I couldn't disagree more with my government' actions Let the people of Transylvania live their lives, and don't mess it up!!
@madalinmoraru633
@madalinmoraru633 2 жыл бұрын
@@barnabasadany1795 I study history at university and I think that the Hungarian Government leans on a nostalgia of the Hungarian Kingdom which ceased to exist since Mohács in 1526. No one contested the fact that Hungary was indeed a great European power but that time is long gone. Extreme nationalism is what caused 2 world wars and no one actually wants to go to war.
@laszlo_kovacs
@laszlo_kovacs 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian, living in Hungary i fully support all of the above. I live close to the Romanian border, I've been to Romania countless times. The people i met were always nice, and it was never a problem to get along. I have many friends over there (tho mostly székelys and hungarians). And 4 years ago i had a top 5 drunkest time at Friends, Satu Mare (10/10, can recommend).
@kingdomoftransylvania5744
@kingdomoftransylvania5744 2 жыл бұрын
i mean there are no longer germans here
@madalinmoraru633
@madalinmoraru633 2 жыл бұрын
@@kingdomoftransylvania5744 There actually still are. I was a volunteer guide in the Black Church in Brașov which is run by the Saxon community. Also in the villages from Brașov and Sibiu counties the grandchildren of the deported Saxon from communist era moved back there, renovated the old Saxon houses and they make money by turning them into cozy BnBs. In Banat, Crișana and Satu Mare there are still Swab communities or their grandchildren who moved back from Germany because they found business opportunities. There weren't a lot of Saxons of Swabs to begin with even when they came but they still exist here in 2021.
@mariuss72
@mariuss72 Жыл бұрын
As a romanian i have a lot of respect for the magyar population from our country, most of them are serious and decent people. We should focus on living together in peace and respect each other.
@lacavalloelmundo8295
@lacavalloelmundo8295 Жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend. 🤝 I'm pretty sure most of these conflicts are made by politicians and far right. Idiots are everywhere in every country. Living in Germany and having a lot of Romanian friends here. Never had any problem with them. Never understood this pointless hate because both side committed lot of bad things in the past.
@BusinessWolf1
@BusinessWolf1 Жыл бұрын
​@@lacavalloelmundo8295yup
@gaborszadai1992
@gaborszadai1992 10 ай бұрын
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@andrii-vladpopa3468
@andrii-vladpopa3468 6 ай бұрын
What I`ve found (not necessarily) surprising is that Hungarians here seem to define themselves as such rather in comparison with Romanians in Transilvania. Outside of Transilvania (e.g. Hungarians in Bucharest and the few in Constanta) may define themselves as "more original" ("neaosi") ardeleni. Hungarians outside of Eastern Europe living in UK, for example, may define themselves as Central Europeans with some Siberian roots and those in China or India may define themselves as the same, too, maybe closer to Germans than Romanians, to be a little nasty.
@eighty.eight.six886
@eighty.eight.six886 2 ай бұрын
ba ei au 0 respect pt noi majoritatea
@eorhalmighty
@eorhalmighty Жыл бұрын
"The bigest riddle of the universe: Who was first in Transilvania" This made me subscribe
@wowmao
@wowmao 2 жыл бұрын
0:45 Thats a good video 👍
@LivingIronicallyinEurope
@LivingIronicallyinEurope 2 жыл бұрын
It is, the guy who made it very funny :^)
@cosmin_budda
@cosmin_budda 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make the Romanian and Hungarian version too? ;)))))
@cosmin_budda
@cosmin_budda 2 жыл бұрын
@@duxromanorum9861 ?
@gaborhorvath6006
@gaborhorvath6006 2 жыл бұрын
Wow_mao is Hungary
@alinalexandru2466
@alinalexandru2466 2 жыл бұрын
The Greek vs Turk one is still my favourite of the two.
@Treveljan
@Treveljan 2 жыл бұрын
You should make a vid about the polish-hungarian friendship as well, that's quite unusual. Edit: how the f*ck did this comment get 3K likes?
@luboskulhavy7769
@luboskulhavy7769 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, two hateful nations kissing each others backside...
@bobkowalski7655
@bobkowalski7655 2 жыл бұрын
Czech and polish reletaionship is even better. Poles look up to czechs and czechs look down on poles lol
@Tejbegrizzly
@Tejbegrizzly 2 жыл бұрын
@@luboskulhavy7769 Bruh this friendship goes way beyond in time to your recent impressions about these countries. Also goverment is not equal with nation.
@SteamyShukshee
@SteamyShukshee 2 жыл бұрын
Hungarians and Poles love themself cause both of them hate immigrants
@davidusssz
@davidusssz 2 жыл бұрын
They were both in the buffer zone.
@Sirinwara
@Sirinwara 2 жыл бұрын
In my experience (as a Hungarian, living in Hungary) it is those people saying: "Romanians are idiots" who have never seen a Romanian in their lives and rarely leave their vicinity. I have been to Transylvania nine times and it was only the first one when it felt wrong. Other than that - fantastic experiences (eight times!). And since Székelyföld is far and I cannot drive we mostly went to places which have an overwhelming Romanian majority. Alba, and eastern Bihor - and the latest adventure went to Maramures. Guess what? Nice people everywhere. In Alba, the hotel lady (well it was a pensiunea) looked at us strangely at first, eight crazy Hungarian people. Then we talked every day and played her Hungarian songs on the zither. On the last day she actually shed a tear when we went home. In Maramures, two people stopped for me when I had to hitchike under the Gutin mountains and it was 1.5 m of snow everywhere. I think it is only the politics which wants us to hate each other, but I refuse.
@razvanbarbaud8792
@razvanbarbaud8792 2 жыл бұрын
As a Romanian from Oltenia (not Transylvania) I didn't know what to expect when I traveled to Budapest or when I met Hungarians in Western Europe. The conclusion is that all of them where very helpfull and are happy to meet Romanians.
@ruxfux3222
@ruxfux3222 28 күн бұрын
This was not true for me and i was very surprised as i am pretty nice lady with much love for humanity in general, and when travelled to budapest, did not even knew much about the tension between our countries. They acted differently when we told them we are from romania(we looked italians) and our car got robbed :) it was in 2015. Maybe things have changed since then.
@glueeater5058
@glueeater5058 2 жыл бұрын
Four months before Romania entered WW1, my great grandfather was on border patrol around Transylvania. There he met a Hungarian soldier whom he befriended and spent months hanging out with. At one point, they even set up a table and chairs and had dinner on what was soon to be no man’s land. As the tensions between the two countries boiled up, not once did their friendship weaken. I know this story sounds sappy but its point is that national tensions, ethnicity, religion, and cultural differences should never come between people. I bet if a Hungarian and a Romanian spent a day with each other ( I’m aware of the language barrier) they would find more in common than different.
@CipriPopescu
@CipriPopescu 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a revealing experience, and it actually resumes the whole romanian-hungarian “conflict”. It has ALWAYS been a political choice, not people choice. Of course there are dumb haters on both sides, but it’s about the individual, not the nation. I live basically on the border with Hungary, I have no knowledge of this “conflict” here in Oradea. I actually find this ethnic diversity beautiful. The ones that still hold a grudge are the “boomers” 50-60 y.o. The young generation doesn’t let the dumb and violent past, get in their heads. I’m quite sure, that if any conflict sparks again between these two nations, it will start by the hand of old fucktards politicians.
@alexandru5369
@alexandru5369 2 жыл бұрын
As a Moldovan/Romanian I think the whole issue really is bizarre. You're right about us not knowing each other while there is a large Hungarian population in Romania we're both pretty segregated from each other for really no reason. If we , at least, understood our differences we could get a long and be very powerful together
@1969mmoldovan
@1969mmoldovan Жыл бұрын
Keep on eating glue
@recoverhealth2062
@recoverhealth2062 Жыл бұрын
Hungarians have "a language barrier" with everyone that isn't a mongolian throat singer from the Russian steppes. Almost as if their place isn't in the middle of Europe.
@raulpetrascu2696
@raulpetrascu2696 Жыл бұрын
Yes the whole thing is funny because in Transylvania proper Romanians and Hungarians live together peacefully, eat eachother's food and drink palinka and țuica and there are churches for every denomination. My neighbours there are hungarian and we are close friends, we are all Transylvanians for many generations. But then on the internet among the nationalists who don't even live there it's a big rivalry still lol
@mihaiblaga5383
@mihaiblaga5383 2 жыл бұрын
I am romanian and I live in Oradea(Nagyvarad), a city close to the hungarian border and 25% hungarian population. Everybody thinks we are fighting each other here when in reality we are throwing parties with Palinca and Kurtos Kalacs and have a lot of fun together :))))))))
@loszi.8918
@loszi.8918 2 жыл бұрын
Partying together in green, gekko, bodega, edison etc etc >DD
@ericco_b
@ericco_b 2 жыл бұрын
hello my friend im live in Hungary bátonyterenye
@coolguyschannel6076
@coolguyschannel6076 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Im from România Argeș
@Erick-ou9qj
@Erick-ou9qj 2 жыл бұрын
Hey guys, not so close to you but i am from Galați!
@romaniageography
@romaniageography 2 жыл бұрын
Ciau, eu sunt în Salonta
@gabor222
@gabor222 2 жыл бұрын
The novel "The Carpathian Castle" from Jules Verne gives an interesting insight of the history and everyday life in the 1800's of these two nations living near each other.
@Ilie-ep9hn
@Ilie-ep9hn 8 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for the video! I am Romanian from that part of Northern Bukovina, Ukraine. Not long ago I learned about the conflict between Hungarians and Romanians, a little similar to Bukovina, I mean, Multiculture, Bukovina is a Multicultural land, Ukrainians, Romanians, Poles, Germans, Jews, and others. The same goes for Transylvania, Romanians, Hungarians, Germans, and others. Interethnic conflicts are created by a group of nationalists, and fanatical patriots, some media from any side, and armchair experts on the Internet who do not understand anything, and ordinary people just want to live. Once I came across channels on social networks, and the saddest thing is that there are channels that provoke and incite ethnic hatred, hatred, and sometimes for some reason they pass off as disinformation as information, it is complete darkness! I wish everyone peace and the best. And thanks to the author for the video again :)
@47sovietwarrior
@47sovietwarrior 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian from Transylvania reading the comments from kind Romanians made me cry. Tare multumesc c:
@aiardelean
@aiardelean 2 жыл бұрын
Cu drag! I have many Hungarian friends and they were better friends than some Romanians were. My mother had a Hungarian godmother, my parents also had Hungarian friends, their wedding's godparents were Hungarians and they were the sweetest people. Even my great-grandmother had Hungarian friends, when she died, one of them came to the funeral even if she was in a bad condition as well, she also died after one month. Transylvania is home for Hungarians also. Don't look at crazy, loud nationalists, those are idiots that hate everybody, even some Romanians.
@mahae_16
@mahae_16 2 жыл бұрын
Your welcome!
@sallagjanos7288
@sallagjanos7288 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian from Transylvania fck Romania!
@malahamavet
@malahamavet 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way while reading kind Hungarian comments, most of the times I find people fighting in comment sections, even in music related videos which have nothing to do whith it, so yeah, as a Romanian transilvanian I'm just happy. Know that I tried learning your language once, as a way of showing my interest and good intentions towards hungarian culture, but hungarian is kinda hard 😁 being non indoeuropean and all, but maybe the next time I try I do better. Maybe one day I can order my kurtoskalaks in hungarian.
@fu1644
@fu1644 2 жыл бұрын
Have some pate Ardealul👍😁
@bacsibela8966
@bacsibela8966 2 жыл бұрын
I heard this joke from a Székely about trianon: "Hát gondoltam, hogy erdély egyszer újra szabad lesz. De hogy egész romániát hozzánkcsatolták..." "I always knew that we will gain independence again from Hungary. It was surprising that we annexed the whole of Romania, tho."
@nocive7381
@nocive7381 2 жыл бұрын
It dosent make sence
@obi-wankenobi1676
@obi-wankenobi1676 2 жыл бұрын
@@nocive7381 yes in Hungarian
@andraspap7087
@andraspap7087 2 жыл бұрын
az igazság
@twilightzone7824
@twilightzone7824 2 жыл бұрын
​@@nocive7381 Sense. Makes no sense. "Sence" is a non-word. So go learn at least basic English and also develop something called a sense of humour (Simțul umorului) and then try and interpret this joke again perhaps this time you will get it
@mercury571
@mercury571 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, historically accurate comment?! (Almost) It seems that there are still some educated people on the Internet.
@csongorpapp9807
@csongorpapp9807 Жыл бұрын
POV: hungarians from Hungary and romanians from Muntenia fight over Transylvania while hungarians and romanians in Transylvania just chill and drink a glass of palinka together.
@danielsantiagomontoyaotalv1595
@danielsantiagomontoyaotalv1595 Жыл бұрын
As a south american i thank you for videos, they are funny as hell and as the Balkans are not a common topic around here they are a really great way to learn a bit more about the region, and the sights are to die for :)
@LivingIronicallyinEurope
@LivingIronicallyinEurope 2 жыл бұрын
Guys please, let's be civil. We all know Transylvania is Serbia
@razvangrigore6886
@razvangrigore6886 2 жыл бұрын
i have my eye on you boy!
@mvaczulin
@mvaczulin 2 жыл бұрын
Every land is Serbian, where a Serb was buried
@thenigerianprince7017
@thenigerianprince7017 2 жыл бұрын
@Mayo Yes,let's make a trade Serbia,Kosovo is ours and Transylvania is yours,who do you say?
@thenigerianprince7017
@thenigerianprince7017 2 жыл бұрын
@@eshay That's the greenland flag,thd poland flag is up white down red
@diedonau9843
@diedonau9843 2 жыл бұрын
It belongs to Chad just look at the flag
@romyhezser7630
@romyhezser7630 2 жыл бұрын
We can't generalise, Romania and Hungary doesn't hate each other, only certain "certin" Individuals who by the way would hate just about everything else but not themselves. The big majority of the people living in Transilvania live together for centuries and go along with each other.
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 2 жыл бұрын
This is a mistake. Romania and Hungary as a state hate each other, since Romanian state objective to ocupy more and more territory. But a state is not equal with a nation.
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 2 жыл бұрын
@@adriancristian6625 I dont think so. Before ww1 hungary and romania have a very similar relation like poland and hungary now. Ín the end, both Italy and romania become enemies of hu, just for grabbing some land.
@iok21a
@iok21a Жыл бұрын
@@xerxen100 bro I need your dealer’s number
@helpIthinkmylegsaregone
@helpIthinkmylegsaregone 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'm from a Maramuresan Romanian diaspora family and three of my uncles are married to Hungarian women, and Hungarian is typically spoken next to German and Romanian at family gatherings. Hungarians still have the right to cultural autonomy and also partial rights for self-governance, which is a lot more than the Romanians had back in the day. To the degree that there are still communities who don't speak Romanian at all. Hungarians have their own neighborhoods, schools, even to a degree universities, and their women get hit on by Romanians like every other group. I was in Cluj two years ago with a Hungarian friend of mine and we went to Hungarian bars and I had a good time. One girl told me that her parents would disown her if she married me though lol. The problem for Hungarians is that their culture is very particular and their language difficult to pick up. Also, many of them are uhm...racially oriented
@opeth84
@opeth84 4 ай бұрын
"would hate just about everything else but not themselves" - Truth has been said here
@Helpmereachsubscriberswi-uo2jo
@Helpmereachsubscriberswi-uo2jo 2 жыл бұрын
How to start ww3 tutorial
@thattimestampguy
@thattimestampguy 2 жыл бұрын
0:25 Cultural Rivalries 1:27 Transylvania 3:25 Hungarian History 3:59 1500’s Semi-Independence for Transylvania 4:25 Romanian population 🇷🇴 Hungarian population 🇭🇺 5:26 Austria-Hungary 5:33 WW1 Treaty of Trianon • Hungarians split away in land loss 6:31 WW2, post-Trianon borders revive 7:27 • 70% Romanian • 14% Hungarian • 12% other • 4% Gypsy 8:21 Hungary in Education 9:12 Dual Citizenship 9:31 Great Fears from both Groups
@cosmin_budda
@cosmin_budda 2 жыл бұрын
As a Romanian that lives in Wallachia, I can say that I respect the Hungarians from Transylvania. I see not reason to hate. We all are human after all.
@balintvarady5160
@balintvarady5160 2 жыл бұрын
Salute, as a Hungarian from transdanubia.
@cosmin_budda
@cosmin_budda 2 жыл бұрын
@@balintvarady5160 🇷🇴❤🇭🇺
@erius98
@erius98 2 жыл бұрын
Cât de adevârat! Salutări din Maramureş😁
@botondkakas6348
@botondkakas6348 2 жыл бұрын
As a Hungarian I feel the same.
@corneliuscapitalinus845
@corneliuscapitalinus845 2 жыл бұрын
Bad reasoning. You guys should be Bois because European gang World-wide, that's awesome reasoning
@user-fh6nu5jw3t
@user-fh6nu5jw3t 11 күн бұрын
the fact that you used that legendary song at the end(Hungarian Folk Tales' theme song) granted you my respect.
@creatzaD
@creatzaD Жыл бұрын
Your channel is so refreshing! Gg
@user-oo7uk2tu2d
@user-oo7uk2tu2d 2 жыл бұрын
The childhood flashbacks you gave me when, at the end of the video you played the hungarian folk stories intro music. Ah good times... being a kid and watching Hungarian Folk stories on minimax. Its nice being a kid.
@kolozsvarifinn816
@kolozsvarifinn816 2 жыл бұрын
Now that I've grown up with "western culture" I'm starting to realise that stories like Magyar Népmesék are quite gruesome
@user-oo7uk2tu2d
@user-oo7uk2tu2d 2 жыл бұрын
@@kolozsvarifinn816 How come? I never saw them as gruesome. They are quite fun for the kids. I watched them as a kid
@hunormagyar1843
@hunormagyar1843 2 жыл бұрын
@@kolozsvarifinn816 You mean the three-headed dragons getting beheaded by the hero? lmao
@jennifertrandafir
@jennifertrandafir 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes.... Childhood!!!
@adamspringmann2449
@adamspringmann2449 2 жыл бұрын
I am Hungarian, and never hated Romanians… in fact I get along with them very well here in London! They are nice people, and we have lots of similarities in a way! I believe this hatred was created by politicians as usual! 🙏🏼
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
Adam Springmann , romanians from Darmanesti , Moldova in june 6. 2019. "vizited" the Hungarian Royal Army Cemetery in Valley of Uz , Szeklerland , Transylvania. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a7x3Zdxp3KnFkpc.html
@adamspringmann2449
@adamspringmann2449 2 жыл бұрын
@@bujdososzekely Now, I understand you and see what you are trying to say. This must have been a tragic day and action. However in my opinion these are simply hooligans and a very small amount of the Romanians ! I’m not defending them of course and hope they were punished by law! Nobody or no cemetery on earth deserves such a vandalism…. :(
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamspringmann2449 , kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9eZlJmKrODLe4k.html
@adamspringmann2449
@adamspringmann2449 2 жыл бұрын
@@bujdososzekely Ez valóban nagyon szomorú és felháborító! Mivel nem ott élek ezért én csak kívülállóként “látok”. Ehhez valóban semmi joguk nem volt…. Sajnálom hogy így kell élned/élnetek a mindennapjaitokat 🙏🏼😢
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
@@adamspringmann2449 ezt evente tobbszor eljatszodjak , pedig az uz-volgyi magyar katonatemetoben egyetlen roman katona nincs eltemetve , a 10 km tavolsagra levo Poiana Uzuluion vannak csak az ottani roman katonatemetoben nagy a szemet es egyresze a viztarozo alatt van.
@Mat_slovenia
@Mat_slovenia 2 жыл бұрын
The music when you shoutout the patrions was familiar? I didn t hear that in years
@Vikkin1218
@Vikkin1218 2 жыл бұрын
About Hungarian-Romanian relations, there’s a anecdote from the time of the Second World War, a supposed conversation between Harry Truman as state secretary and a secretary on duty, 1941 December: -Good morning, good morning, is there anything new in the world? -Mr. Secretary, Hungary declared war on us. -What kind of country is Hungary exactly? -Smaller kingdom in East-Europe -Who’s there king? -They don’t have one -Who’s in charge then? -Admiral-Governor Miklós Horthy -Admiral? At which see? -They don’t have any. -Okay? And what do they want from us? -From us, nothing. They have territorial claims against Romania. -Romania? -Smaller kingdom in East-Europe -And Romania is our ally? -No Mr. Secretary, Romania is an ally of Hungary… The story of course was later proved fictional as at the time Truman was a senator at the time.
@mihalybormester8736
@mihalybormester8736 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very old, tired and boring joke.
@Vikkin1218
@Vikkin1218 2 жыл бұрын
@@mihalybormester8736 but sums up what kind of twister fuck Hungarian history was at the time
@Tanu.90
@Tanu.90 2 жыл бұрын
I read this joke in Paul Lendvái "Hungarians" book😂
@danielenache54
@danielenache54 7 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂not surprised the Hungarian dont like the joke
@85szabolcs
@85szabolcs 2 жыл бұрын
Do a video on the Polish-Hungarian friendship, if you like. It goes back all the way to the 900's, it's absolutely fascinating. And kurvára wholesome.
@andrasschaffer8226
@andrasschaffer8226 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Mr. Szabolcs. Ez bizony kūrvára igaz.
@Gecica8883
@Gecica8883 2 жыл бұрын
That is kibaszottul true
@andrasschaffer8226
@andrasschaffer8226 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gecica8883 😂😂 yes sur
@MegaFrixi
@MegaFrixi 2 жыл бұрын
Kurvára tartsatok ki tesók! Peace from hun.
@StefanGabrielRoHu
@StefanGabrielRoHu 2 жыл бұрын
Hungarian - Mongolian ancestory, thats a video to watch! It shows how both peoples eat horse, or how the were sleeping on the horse when they were nomads.
@mesasartworks
@mesasartworks 2 жыл бұрын
8:09 which language was used for that scene? Was it romanian? I can't recognize it
@TM-tt3ix
@TM-tt3ix 2 жыл бұрын
can someone tell me what the clip at 0:22 is from? I once saw the music video but i cant remember its name
@Selmarya
@Selmarya 2 жыл бұрын
What the music tho
@alecs709
@alecs709 2 жыл бұрын
@@Selmarya dogos robi - bomba
@Selmarya
@Selmarya 2 жыл бұрын
@@alecs709 no its kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nq-ipJqlsamxdmg.html
@andronicu
@andronicu 2 жыл бұрын
As a Transylvanian most of the hate is made by toxic children on internet. In everyday life everything resumes to Romanian: u like palinca? Hungarian: igen Romanian: u my brudah now
@itwasmewasntit2448
@itwasmewasntit2448 2 жыл бұрын
That's good to hear :D
@veghobed4021
@veghobed4021 2 жыл бұрын
Ofc we love pálinka , we made it :DD
@potatogamer4200
@potatogamer4200 2 жыл бұрын
Until the romanian steals it XDD
@andronicu
@andronicu 2 жыл бұрын
I summoned the entire magyar horde oh god
@me5ng3
@me5ng3 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, honestly THIS. I have lived almost all of my life in Oradea, a city with a fairly large hungarian speaking population and we've never had any problems. For real, the first time I learned about people hating each other was when I got to read stuff on the internet. It's mostly hungarians FROM HUNGARY and Romanians FROM THE SOUTH/EAST that spread this shit. Most of us living here just get along really well. I'm a romanian Transylvanian and my best friend until highschool was a Hungarian Transylvanian.
@lorenz2062
@lorenz2062 2 жыл бұрын
I am half Hungarian half Romanian but i cn tell you that we are friends mostly there are few cases where a romanian and a hungarian are not friend,it was a problem in the 40-50's but now we just make parodies about hating each other,where in reality we are actually friends now.
@blueeyed5074
@blueeyed5074 2 жыл бұрын
I looked this up a few months ago. It seems that hate between Hungarians And Romanians is at it's lowest point ever. A few fringe characters, but that's kinda it.
@lottipenta462
@lottipenta462 2 жыл бұрын
That's not entirely true. My teacher almost got beaten by Romanians only because he was talking on Hungarian 30 years ago. I know someone personally who lived in moldova (the romanian part), is a Hungarian and was charged several times only because she was speaking Hungarian in her HOME. She was born in 1978 and these things happened in her village frequently before she moved in 1990. Things got chilled in the last 20 years, not in the 50's
@badumba5511
@badumba5511 Жыл бұрын
No one said things were better in the 50, I think you misread
@iLikeTigerz101
@iLikeTigerz101 4 ай бұрын
Does anyone know the scene he showed at the very beginning where there's a kid that looks like he's falling? Sorry if this has nothing to do with the subject of this video.
@alexandrudanieldonciu6961
@alexandrudanieldonciu6961 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Transilvania
@pipacsvasvari2189
@pipacsvasvari2189 2 жыл бұрын
A few monts ago i had a lovely conversation wih a romanian( i'm hungarian) on tiktok about how It's nearly impossible to be proud of our culture without ppl assuming that you are supporting the goverment and associate you with a very conservative personality. I realised how much we have incommon and we should all stop living in the past and blaming each other for what had happend, and focus more on the happier and healthier things.
@costinhalaicu2746
@costinhalaicu2746 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, add to this the fact we're both in the EU, and thus free to enjoy each other's countries to any extent we want, and the whole bickering is totally pointless.
@Blox117
@Blox117 9 ай бұрын
you should both be ashamed for using tik tok
@goatass3402
@goatass3402 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see that your microphone quality went up again
@LivingIronicallyinEurope
@LivingIronicallyinEurope 2 жыл бұрын
sponsor money OP
@BBWahoo
@BBWahoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@LivingIronicallyinEurope Thank God, the pop in was obnoxious, thanks for upgrading
@bgdx.5049
@bgdx.5049 2 ай бұрын
Man, we don't hate each other, period. Old times are gone. 😊
@danieljurus7223
@danieljurus7223 2 жыл бұрын
What is Romania?
@dacialogan6605
@dacialogan6605 Жыл бұрын
a country
@humbleflatcap1802
@humbleflatcap1802 2 жыл бұрын
As someone from transylvania, i witness the language problem every day. Sadly even i can't make proper complex sentences, even thou i'm trying to this day. The differences between the languages always mess with me when i try to speak like a normal person. Other than finding the language difficult, i like romanians, have romanian friends, and find they literature interesting. Our politicians could be a bit better, but other than that, the place isn't too bad. Covid did hit us hard tho
@johnwilliam9954
@johnwilliam9954 2 жыл бұрын
It really did hit us hard man :((
@humbleflatcap1802
@humbleflatcap1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnwilliam9954 Hope you are doing ok in these times
@johnwilliam9954
@johnwilliam9954 2 жыл бұрын
@@humbleflatcap1802 same for you brother. Hope you are ok
@nocive7381
@nocive7381 2 жыл бұрын
Toți am vrea sa oprim aberația asta 😅
@obi-wankenobi1676
@obi-wankenobi1676 2 жыл бұрын
I just gave up learning romanian
@AlinCBOY
@AlinCBOY 2 жыл бұрын
We don.t really hate each other. I am Romanian and Hungary is one of the loveliest countries to me! Szia from Bucharest, dear neighbours!❤
@Miszter
@Miszter 2 жыл бұрын
It's just politics; we don't hate each other. Long live Romania! Greetings from Budapest! 🇭🇺❤️🇷🇴
@bogdan-mihaitaoprea6280
@bogdan-mihaitaoprea6280 2 жыл бұрын
@@Miszter politics, plus haters. The ridiculous fact is that those haters are Romanians that haven't met many Hungarians. Or viceversa. And, by the way, kurtos kalacs tastes great. 😁
@vicePVic
@vicePVic 2 жыл бұрын
Multumesc neighbor!
@nagyadam8537
@nagyadam8537 2 жыл бұрын
Azért az autonómiát megadhatnátok
@shiftffs
@shiftffs 2 жыл бұрын
It depends. The 2 types of romanians i see giving most of the hate are the ones living in the very other side of romania, and war fanatic 9yos in YT comment sections. Similar case with Hungarians. I literally couldnt care less if someone's romanian. We are all experiencing the misfortune that is living on the border of the balkans together.
@joetigris1895
@joetigris1895 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know the name of the song starting at 10:05?
@phoenixpingu
@phoenixpingu Жыл бұрын
I live in Romania and I want peace between Romania and Hungary. I know and like both languages and English too. And I want to live the day when Romania and Hungary will be friends
@jozsefbednarik9766
@jozsefbednarik9766 2 жыл бұрын
I always say, if I can't sit down to drink with a Romanian, than i would not be able to drink with him even if he was Hungarian.
@cadavres2930
@cadavres2930 2 жыл бұрын
Based
@banacmiodrag4867
@banacmiodrag4867 2 жыл бұрын
I live in Banat(thank god) and we dont have such issues here. All cultures and ethnicitties get along pretty good. All hungarians that I know here speak Romanian very well and are not interested in this issue so much.
@cafta
@cafta 2 жыл бұрын
From your name you are ethnic Serb and you say that so Romania is not a bad place !
@tonyslabu6373
@tonyslabu6373 2 жыл бұрын
@@cafta Well ye.. Minorities have rights and are treated as any other Romanian citizen
@winnikvinni
@winnikvinni Жыл бұрын
I love both of them ❤️🇭🇺🇷🇴
@silviuuno
@silviuuno 11 ай бұрын
The Carpi were a Dacian tribe that lived outside of Roman Dacia, in the current territory of Moldova, so called Free Dacians.
@SSA-qb6pb
@SSA-qb6pb Жыл бұрын
Romania during ww1: guess I'll die Romania after giant powers finished their work: DRUM BUN DRUM BUN
@theuralictribes5689
@theuralictribes5689 2 жыл бұрын
Well the national, regional tensions and hate between Hungarians and Romanians was huge in the 90's but like nowadays it's generally just a few small groups and people who would make up like 1% of the KZfaq comment section :P Now, in my personal opinion as a Hungarian I would love it if we could get back the lands we lost, but at this point in this day and age it's too far past the point in history. Sooner or later we both will have a serious common enemy and we need to come together and be prepared for it.
@kevinboros7427
@kevinboros7427 2 жыл бұрын
As a Romanian I fully support cooperation between the two nations. There are bigger threats out there. Even though these two ethnicities haven't gotten along very well, they still have a shared history.
@kevinboros7427
@kevinboros7427 2 жыл бұрын
@Garlic Pudding Long live our proud peoples!
@theuralictribes5689
@theuralictribes5689 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevinboros7427 As do I, I mean we could choose to still squabble and bicker about the past, or we can try to make the best of what we have and keep building up our countries, improve the economy, grow businesses and opportunities. It's the same thing with Hungary and Turkey or even the Austrians, yes the history with them is very dark and brutal etc, but at the same time we can't forget that fact that Hungary's trade with Turkey as well as Austria is very crucial nowadays. It's also the same thing with Romanians and Poles, there are some amongst these groups squabbling and bickering over a border or land but like in general these 2 countries do business with each other.
@emanuelmaldoileacont8253
@emanuelmaldoileacont8253 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but remember that Transilvania was always ours
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
@@emanuelmaldoileacont8253 , Transylvania was a region of Hungary for 1000 years before romanian ocupation in 1918.
@mvaczulin
@mvaczulin 2 жыл бұрын
I guess, as a Hungarian from Budapest, I have approximately just as much connection to Transylvania as the average Romanian from Bucharest does (outside of the obvious legal terms), which consists of not much more than sheer appreciation for the place's rich cultural and natural heritage, a few relatives and friends from there and nice memories of visiting. I think we should let the locals (Transylvanians) sort out things between themselves and not interfere too much. It would be nice, if the two countries' governments and politicians in general, would focus on coordinating their efforts in helping the region's development together, instead of exploiting the people living there for political games, spreading hate in the process. One can always wish. Great video BTW, as usual on this channel;)
@kevinboros7427
@kevinboros7427 2 жыл бұрын
Great insight! I live over here, in Transylvania, as a Romanian in the majority Szekler lands. At ground level most Szeklers and Romanians cooperate to make this region a better place. But there have always been and always will be bad apples on both sides. I have had the misfortune of meeting them.
@traditionalimations6671
@traditionalimations6671 2 жыл бұрын
Name a politician "exploiting people and spreading hate in the process".
@traditionalimations6671
@traditionalimations6671 2 жыл бұрын
@Garlic Pudding LOL. Good call.
@me5ng3
@me5ng3 2 жыл бұрын
Contrary to popular belief the areas around here (I'm Transylvanian) are indeed quite well developed. I don't think we need neither Budapest nor Bucharest to tell us or give us any "financial aid". We can do very well by ourselves.
@sticlavoda5632
@sticlavoda5632 2 жыл бұрын
Transylvania is pretty well developed, and is Romanian by majority. Lol, Wallachians, Moldavians and Transylvanians have much in common.
@isg4
@isg4 Жыл бұрын
As a Romanian in Muntenia, I'm glad to see comments of hungarians and romanians living in peace with each other Let's not let radical nationalism cause a second Romanian-Hungarian war
@victory7999
@victory7999 Жыл бұрын
It's easy for you to say "let's all be friends now and not demand each other's land" while you still own the entirety of Transylvania, with Hungary not owning even a single village or town or city or castle that they built there. Now imagine if Hungary owned the entirety of Transylvania with so many Romanians living there, would you still say "let's all be friends now and not demand each other's land", or would you be adamantly demanding that Transylvania be given to Romania. I can say almost for sure you'd be the latter.
@isg4
@isg4 Жыл бұрын
@@victory7999 idk why you act like I even have the power to do anything. I said what I said because I'm sick of seeing every single comment either bashing hungarians or bashing romanian. You come out of nowhere and say all this like I am just another nationalist or like I care about territory disputes with Hungary.
@victory7999
@victory7999 Жыл бұрын
@@isg4 Of course none of us have the power to do anything about it, but I'm explaining why Hungarians won't just forget about it or accept it. Trianon was an unjust solution (a punishment of Hungary actually) and it continues to have effects to this day. Every day that goes by, Hungary is smaller and weaker than it should be. Every day that goes by Hungarian settlements, towns, cities, castles, etc. are taken over more and more by neighbouring countries that shouldn't even have many of these. Every day that goes by the Hungarian populations in these countries declines and they are absorbed into foreign countries. The Hungarians can see their people, creations, accomplishments, etc. slowly decaying away into other countries. And why? All because of an anti-Hungarian treaty signed over 100 years ago for the "crime" of being involved in WW1, which no other country paid as dearly for as Hungary. As humans, we are sickened by injustice, double standards and hypocrisy. When it occurs on such a massive scale as Trianon, and when we are told to shut up and accept it, it sickens us more and causes extreme outrage. Trianon is not a one-time punishment, it is a recurring, permanent punishment of an extraordinary scale. Unless Trianon is fixed in some just way, Hungarians will never forget and never forgive for what has been done to them and their country. You can hope that Hungarians and Romanians will get along one day, but the only ways this can be done is if the Trianon issue is somehow sorted out in a fair way for both countries, or if Hungarians just submit to and accept having their people and country shattered in the most unjust and sickening manner with a smile on their face, which is a completely unrealistic expectation, both for any country and for any individual. Trianon is like a personal, targetted attack on Hungarians and the Hungarian identity, and they're just supposed to take it with a smile on their face and forget about it like their country wasn't just destroyed? I'm pointing out how Hungarians have every right to be angry, as they've essentially had an intruder break into their house, kill half their family, rob them, and burn down their house, and when they go to court, the court decides that the murderer is in fact innocent and the victim is blamed with killing their family and is sent to prison instead. That's how fcked up it feels to Hungarians, and either people don't care, or they think Trianon is fine. You can't actually expect Hungarians to be friendly and nice after this, but Romanians on the other hand have no excuse for their abuse online. They have everything they could possibly want, and they still enjoy abusing the country they took it all from.
@isg4
@isg4 Жыл бұрын
@@victory7999 I don't speak for all romanians when I say, I never saw anyone "abuse" online. If you're talking about the hoards of goblins in yt comments, they are either trolls or stupid nationalists, otherwise I have no idea. As for "no other country paid as dearly for as Hungary", I think Germany also paid for WW1 badly enough with the impossible reparations, stupid high inflation, greatly reduced military and so on. Of course, losing 2/3 of your territory and half of your population is pretty severe, but then again, it was french diplomats who had the major role in designing the treaty.
@Kalimdor199Menegroth
@Kalimdor199Menegroth Жыл бұрын
@@victory7999 Most Hungarians did come to terms with the changes though as many realized that it is no longer possible to restore even parts of the old territory. Also, Trianon is no longer an enforced treaty. The current configuration has been decided in 1947 at Paris. We Romanians simply defend what is rightfully ours. Our ancestors died and shed blood for our freedom. Whether you like it or not, Trianon is the disaster that you guys created after decades of mistreating your national minorities. Keep in mind that until 1892 Transylvanian Romanians did not support unity with Romania but autonomy. When we realized that we will not get anything from the Hungarian administration, that is when we decided that unification was the only option to ensure our survival. You had 50 years time during the dual monarchy to set things right. But your concern was to assimilate others into your political nation. This backfired and Trianon happened. As long as Hungarians do not reflect on their historical mistakes and deny the mistreatment they imposed upon others, even if Trianon is revised. Romanians do not abuse before being abused. When we see comments attacking us and promises that our land will be taken away from us, of course we become defensive.
@spacecore2077
@spacecore2077 Жыл бұрын
As a romanian, we don't hate each other. Somtimes we question statements and ideas, but we remember it's ok for people to express themselves in a free ❤ world!
@krunoslavkovacec1842
@krunoslavkovacec1842 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to make an episode on Moldova and Romania ?
@LivingIronicallyinEurope
@LivingIronicallyinEurope 2 жыл бұрын
Might as well now that you gave me the idea
@bandana.man.
@bandana.man. 2 жыл бұрын
ah yes romania and moldova, the two brothers
@thenigerianprince7017
@thenigerianprince7017 2 жыл бұрын
@@bandana.man. I am Romanian,and to be honest it took me a very disturbing amount of time to realize that Moldova was fully independent
@kevinboros7427
@kevinboros7427 2 жыл бұрын
@@LivingIronicallyinEurope As a Romanian I have to warn you, this is a very dangerous topic. Tread carefully.
@traditionalimations6671
@traditionalimations6671 2 жыл бұрын
@@LivingIronicallyinEurope Moldova este românească!
@geogranticus7442
@geogranticus7442 2 жыл бұрын
As a Romanian from Moldavia, I must confess that the Hungarian minority has been really helpful with my family when we were lost in Maros or our tire broke. Many Romanians didn't care about us. Education is what matters. Not ethnicity.
@PhanthomKnight9
@PhanthomKnight9 2 жыл бұрын
Moldova* Scuze dar trebuia să te corectez
@xerxen100
@xerxen100 2 жыл бұрын
But many times education comes from ethnicity.
@Adifanadi
@Adifanadi 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhanthomKnight9 Moldavia is Moldova in english
@PhanthomKnight9
@PhanthomKnight9 2 жыл бұрын
@@Adifanadi ohh
@Adifanadi
@Adifanadi 2 жыл бұрын
@@PhanthomKnight9 trebuia să te corectez
@Yuki_the_transgirl
@Yuki_the_transgirl 2 ай бұрын
As soon as i have seen the evangelion you had me hooked,
@PokemonGOGreece
@PokemonGOGreece 2 жыл бұрын
What about the intro song??
@callmereiki
@callmereiki 2 жыл бұрын
As a transilvanian I have to say this video is surprisingly accurate. Great job Serbian friend!
@nothing-lf4rf
@nothing-lf4rf 2 жыл бұрын
You have a romanian name so you are romanian
@tudorgabii
@tudorgabii Жыл бұрын
This is the first time when I hear someone call themselves “Transilvanian”, there’s no such thing as “Transilvanian”, you are Romanian.
@raduromanesti6408
@raduromanesti6408 8 ай бұрын
yes exactly Transylvania is de jure and de facto Romania, that doesnt mean that the only culture in Transylvania is Romanian, but German and Hungarian also, and i am from Transylvania also @@nothing-lf4rf
@stefan2serb
@stefan2serb 2 жыл бұрын
Like both peoples! Romanians are our brothers and I just returned from Hungary - loved it! A very beautiful culture for this part of Europe.
@medeeadumitrescu8785
@medeeadumitrescu8785 2 жыл бұрын
I love your video,good luck in the future
@ryomario90
@ryomario90 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a hungarian from transylvania, I was born in 1990, had a decent childhood till I got to school, from 1 to 4th grade it was like getting up in the morning and going to a gang war, I still remember seeing my hungarian class getting beaten by the same or higher grade romanian students regulalry, early in the morning waiting for the school doors to be opened, going outside for recess and of course going home after school, there was almost always a guaranteed beating waiting for us. Some of us ran, some of us took the beating like a " man " Then came 5th grade which was somewhat peaceful, then my family moved so I had to go to another school, I got into another hungarian class and there was a hungarian gypsy guy with who I quickly became good buddies, turned out he was a guy not to be messed with, so from 6-th to 8th grade it was mostly peaceful again thanks to him. I know that every hungarian's experience in transylvania is different, I wasn't so lucky I guess. From all the romanians that I've met so far I'd say like 10% of them were nice and kind people, the other 90% rude and nationalistic poeple, who got angry at me and my friends for talking in hungarian on the street, some of them even yelled " go live in hungary you fuckin' bozgor! ( bozgor means countryless or something like that in english I guess ) " things calmed down after I graduated, but I'll never forget the horrors of 1-4th grade, I say horrors because that's how it felt as a child.
@jozsefarpadbalogh8394
@jozsefarpadbalogh8394 2 жыл бұрын
The same experience in the '70 - '80 years. But do not forget, what Apponyi said in Trianon: "You have just dug Hungary's grave, but Hungary will be there for the funeral of all the countries who have now dug Hungary's grave here."
@Serato17
@Serato17 3 ай бұрын
I can relate (almost same age and was bullied for 4 ys) but I can not describe in English how deeply I feel sorry for you especially the child livin' in you. TBH my eyes getting wet. Kids can be so brutal & the damage last long.
@tremorchrist1862
@tremorchrist1862 2 жыл бұрын
omg big ups for using cassa loco as the outro!! great video as always my man!
@freespy8260
@freespy8260 2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't be as much of a help as I would've wanted with the script, but I did leave my input Glad this went through as this is something that isn't really covered in school and whatnot, so it is a good thing to mention around, and glad I helped even if not to the extent I wished to help
@raykirushiroyshi2752
@raykirushiroyshi2752 2 жыл бұрын
The addiction of the opening theme for "povești maghiare" or Hungarian tales at the end was a good touch, that thing slaps
@Kareszkoma
@Kareszkoma 2 жыл бұрын
3:05 I KNEW IT. They were f***ing vampires all along!
@otapi
@otapi 2 жыл бұрын
It's good to see there are all positive comments here. It was very different even just 10 years ago here in KZfaq. Times changing to the good direction! I visited Erdély/Transylvania in the 90's for a classmate's family. It was an adventurous, but memorable trip back then. Probable it is time to visit as a tourist with my kids now.
@Hungabrigoo
@Hungabrigoo 2 жыл бұрын
I think ability to have comment wars on KZfaq videos like between Hungarians and Romanian this actually helps a lot, believe it or not. I certainly learned a lot by arguing with some very well informed Romanians about this topic. Of course there are a lot of insecure nationalists, but if you are looking for the other's perspective, you can find it, which was not possible just a few decades ago.
@yarpen26
@yarpen26 2 жыл бұрын
Don't go to Quora then. There is a host of Romanian and Hungarian contributors, all erudite and of course hardcore nationalists, and virtually any answer on the topic is bound to result in a war in the comment section. It's interesting to see that self-proclaimed intellectuals tend to arouse more crude vitriol than "regular" users.
@kennybeginner4087
@kennybeginner4087 Жыл бұрын
@@yarpen26 thoes are not hard-core nationalists, they are simply degenerate xenophobes. I'm romanian and I have hungarians in my family. Were I live, that's something common
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo Жыл бұрын
Good!! Bring your kids and take photos, lots of them!! (For thr record I am not Romanian or Hungarian. Just cheering you on) :)
@balintgonczi5476
@balintgonczi5476 2 жыл бұрын
Even tough we (hungarians) do joke a lot about Transylvania being part of Hungary, but it's not like we give a shit about it being part of Romania. You could say this is how we cope with our complicated history. Much love to my romanian and hungarian brothers alike.
@makelovenotwarnoob
@makelovenotwarnoob 2 жыл бұрын
We live in a united Europe anyway. Transylvania is European land. Like Romania and Hungary. We are Europeans! Never had any kind of problems with the ethnic hungarians from Romania.
@liviubostan7229
@liviubostan7229 2 жыл бұрын
We're not brothers,Maghyar!
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
@@makelovenotwarnoob , Transylvania is Hungarian land under romanian occupation after 1918 !!!
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
@@liviubostan7229 your brothers the romani peoples !!!
@RaduRadonys
@RaduRadonys 2 жыл бұрын
@@bujdososzekely are you a romani person?
@Lnly-
@Lnly- Жыл бұрын
im a romanian from the moldova (not the republic) and 2 of my best friends are Hungarians from Transylvania. really nice people. idc what ur nationality is as long as you have manners and respect
@siposiosif2323
@siposiosif2323 Жыл бұрын
Well done of explanation 👌
@pannajohns5255
@pannajohns5255 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up I visited Romania a lot because my dad and his family are from Romania (my mom is Hungarian and so am I), and I loved spending time in Romania and with his family, they are like the kindest people ever and I was super close with my second cousin, we were almost like sisters
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
Seems everyone knows this Transylvanian Hungarian folk song , even Freddie Mercury. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsx7jaeqx9Wym6c.html
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 2 жыл бұрын
@@bujdososzekely kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jsx7jaeqx9Wym6c.html - this tune is very Carpathian, very Vlach, Romanian. The music, not the words. It is not related to Uralic populations; it is local.
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
@@ionbrad6753 , this is a vlach "ruman"dance from Rumelia , Balkan kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nLCgZ9SjkteRnY0.html
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 Жыл бұрын
@@ulanten892 Real Hungarian is Uralic. Present-day Hungarians are just hungarianized pre-existing european populations.
@ionbrad6753
@ionbrad6753 Жыл бұрын
@@ulanten892 I am not using "mongols" towards present-day hungarians. I also do not think "mongol" should be an insult. Mongols are also people, you know? However, indeed - genetic research proved the 10th century Hungarian invaders had Asian DNA. Those "ancient hungarians" which were europeans were not .. hungarians. They were magyarized later.
@christine037
@christine037 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video. It's very informative, you told every important thing about the conflict, and IMO you are unbiased. 🙂
@blackcat80yearsago96
@blackcat80yearsago96 2 жыл бұрын
Hold on, gotta take some popcorn and soda before opening the comment section, brb 🍿🥤🧋
@HunriX
@HunriX 2 жыл бұрын
(in the places, that got taken away from hungary during trianon, a lot of Hungarians were murdered)
@laurentiubojoiu9200
@laurentiubojoiu9200 11 ай бұрын
Whats the song at the end? Ilike it
@Petre66CA
@Petre66CA 2 жыл бұрын
Misunderstanding. An ancient religious conflict at the borders between Catholicism and Orthodoxy, has been repackaged by nationalist as inter ethnic divisions in Transylvania. Wrong. In reality the Orthodox Romanians were at the receiving end of all sorts of pressures to assimilate for very long. One can draw a line North South over a map of Europe and find identical cases of ‘conflicts’ all along. With Transylvania the matter was settled after two WW even if some still dream that the actual debate could be reopened
@Bogdan-uu5oe
@Bogdan-uu5oe 2 жыл бұрын
The religious conflict is one of them. Romania even in the Dacian times had cultural conflicts, the Carpathian separates Central Europe (Celtic - Craftsman), to Balkans (Hellenized tribes - Politicians) to the Steps (Sarmatians - Something).
@sebi9124
@sebi9124 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see how the comment section will turn out!
@arsnrhmn
@arsnrhmn 2 жыл бұрын
Ok
@sneider6505
@sneider6505 2 жыл бұрын
Unusual relaxed for Balkan standards until now.
@goldpaulike5304
@goldpaulike5304 2 жыл бұрын
At first they seemed promising, finally these people are kind to each other, i thought to myself. But then I dig deeper and the same overused offensive jokes, the same over used arguments that have literally been in the video, some people, you just can't with them
@oightKoreraAreEditable
@oightKoreraAreEditable Жыл бұрын
A big and beloved romanian youtuber I know is hungarian, great mate! He's Zappy tv btw
@bandito4805
@bandito4805 Жыл бұрын
i love that intro song whats its name?
@mihneabaluta3431
@mihneabaluta3431 2 жыл бұрын
I like how in the capital of romania, in the area where I'm living in, the people are super anti-hungarian even if they have never seen a hungarian before. Also, great and funny video, keep up the good work!
@gergelyhegedus8714
@gergelyhegedus8714 2 жыл бұрын
That's my experience as well as a hungarian in Romania. I live in a mixed city, the romanians and hungarians get along around here pretty well. Ofc I had some bad experiences regardless, but most of the hate I see are from hungarians who are not living next to romanians, and from romanians who don't live close to hungarians. The language is still a struggle to me, but other than that it's pretty alright.
@0.2.40
@0.2.40 2 жыл бұрын
same here in budapest
@PetiKeee20
@PetiKeee20 2 жыл бұрын
@@0.2.40 The only difference is that every third people here has roots outside of the current border, so they are involved somehow and their hate is a family herritage, not a learned thing from the politics or media for example. :D
@g0blin11
@g0blin11 2 жыл бұрын
**Romania my friend.
@obi-wankenobi1676
@obi-wankenobi1676 2 жыл бұрын
@@gergelyhegedus8714 yeah I struggled too with the language and I just gave up
@danielgrigorut9853
@danielgrigorut9853 2 жыл бұрын
I realy like the melody from final. It was called hungarian folk tales and every child in Transylvania saw the stories on tv when we were little. I saw them in romanian but that melody sticks with me till today.
@andrashorvath6300
@andrashorvath6300 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, this cartoon was translated to Romanian? Pretty cool, sadly we never got any media of this kind out of Romania.
@danieltokodi2416
@danieltokodi2416 2 жыл бұрын
search "magyar népmesék". they are on youtube, with pretty good english dub
@jarlbalgruufthegreater1758
@jarlbalgruufthegreater1758 2 жыл бұрын
every country has that one neighbor that it hates
@MuffledCZ10
@MuffledCZ10 2 жыл бұрын
0:19 what is intro song?
@vaporwave2359
@vaporwave2359 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear the words "treaty" and "Trianon" in the same sentence I start sobbing uncontrollable
@plainsalt
@plainsalt 2 жыл бұрын
Get some help
@gaymermoment
@gaymermoment 2 жыл бұрын
Cope
@fu1644
@fu1644 2 жыл бұрын
Some pate Ardealul will help🤣🤣
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
@socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Жыл бұрын
Least nationalist Hungarians be like:
@Ami-jc2oo
@Ami-jc2oo Жыл бұрын
Nice profile pic
@opuser1
@opuser1 2 жыл бұрын
Top notch video. Good content, great memes, fantastic editing.
@mr.carguy654
@mr.carguy654 6 ай бұрын
Damn, all the comments are so positive! I was expecting a bloodbath but it looks like we get along much better than we thought we would. I think the biggest problem for Hungary post Trianon was the lack of democracy given to areas we lost. They should have been asked wether they want to remain a part of Hungary or leave. Obviously the areas in which Hungarians were a minority would still have been lost but at least its fair. This was actually done in Sopron which chose to remain a part of Hungary. If all cities and towns could have done this democratically there wouldn't be the sort of tensions or border disputes that exist today.
@user-gw2pz9lx5m
@user-gw2pz9lx5m 6 ай бұрын
If we don't fight on the internet, then in real life it's really good
@mr.carguy654
@mr.carguy654 6 ай бұрын
@@user-gw2pz9lx5m I couldn't agree more!
@YoCelKreSunt
@YoCelKreSunt Жыл бұрын
Hate is propaganda, we actually love each other.
@urihun4534
@urihun4534 11 ай бұрын
hate is transylvania give us half and then team up..
@g0blin11
@g0blin11 10 ай бұрын
​@@urihun4534I can give you half of my d..k to suck instead of Transilvania😊
@glassychap1141
@glassychap1141 2 жыл бұрын
You should discuss the South Tyrol feud between Italy and Austria. It is very similar to this situation
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
@@mato7018 , yes the majority of romanians have balkanian way of thinking. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jrqUeNOTz63Icas.html
@alejandrosotomartin9720
@alejandrosotomartin9720 2 жыл бұрын
Not so similar situation i think. Despite the fact that it is the richest and most authonomous region of Italy a majority of italians don´t care too much about Sud Tirol.
@mihailupu5107
@mihailupu5107 2 жыл бұрын
Actually in 1003 only North-Western Transylvania was conquered, the whole of transylvania was conquered by the hungarian kingdom around 1150-1200. We know this because of multiple reasons: -The progresive migration east of the szekelys (which were the border units of the hungarian kingdom). -The progresive migration east of the hungarian ceramic group (different from the romanian one). -The dating of hungarian burial sites in transylviana. -The first Voivode of Transylvania being mentioned only in 1176. Kurt Horedt, a german historian from Transylvania, using the toponyms of kapu and gyepű (being the names used for medieval fortifications in hungarian) he concluded that the Hungarian Kingdom reached: -in 1100 Târnava Mare. -in 1150 The Southern Carpathians -in 1200 the Eastern Carpathians. But due to further research the hungarian border is thought to be placed: -Untill the reign of Ladislaus I (1077-1095) on the Deva-Orastie-Alba Iulia-Turda line. -Probably before the end of the 11th century it reached Tarnava Mare valley. -In the early 12th century, probably during the reign of King Coloman (1095-1116), it reached the Olt Valley. -Probably during the reign of Geza II (1141-1161) it reached Eastern Transylvania. The decisive reason for the earlier dating is the reaserch of the necropolis at Feldioara (Brasov county) made out of 119 graves and containing coins as early as the reign of King Stephen III (1162-1172). The western origin of the population is proven by some particularities of the funeral ritual.
@bujdososzekely
@bujdososzekely 2 жыл бұрын
mihai lupu , Saxon settlement in Transylvania kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebp0hc9j05icZJc.html The valach "romanian" migration to Hungary kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b6l_a9uHv82lg3k.html
@mihailupu5107
@mihailupu5107 2 жыл бұрын
@@bujdososzekely I dony see the relevancy of the first video and when it comes to the 2nd it makes extremely bold conclusions basicaly out of nothing.
@Mayhamsdead
@Mayhamsdead Жыл бұрын
You actually paid attention in history class. You are based and truth-pilled. That is all.
@JM-nm3bg
@JM-nm3bg 9 ай бұрын
What you’re describing is the Eastward expansion of the Western style organized Kdm. Of Hungary. This has little relevance to the language spoken by the local population which again has little to do with which group they claimed they belong to. Szekelys for example may have claimed they were Bulgarian at some point but probably only in the 9’th century. Romanians claimed to be Romans, Byzantines, Vlachs, Bulgars, Moldovans, Bassarabians etc. at various times and now they say they’re Daco-Romans. Meanwhile their language only gradually evolved with most changes only in the 19’th century.
@mihailupu5107
@mihailupu5107 8 ай бұрын
​@@JM-nm3bgI can read a 500 yo Romanian document and fully understand it. What are you talking about?
@orlando-ciprianpotroghiru702
@orlando-ciprianpotroghiru702 Жыл бұрын
Whats the song from 00:20
@TheMistAnchorite
@TheMistAnchorite 8 ай бұрын
No one talks about the first states that emarged in todays Transylvania. Hungary put up a fight to conquer these state formations gradualy and in time. Let us not forget about the autonomy this land had under the hungarian rule, also the fact that Hungary was no more as a state during Ottomans and Habsburgs, and that Transylvania did its own things
@orthobro4780
@orthobro4780 2 жыл бұрын
Hungarian folk tales theme tho >>>>>
@horridus2842
@horridus2842 2 жыл бұрын
It doesnt matter if youre hungarian or romanian If one didnt watch those, he doesnt belong to Transilvania
@kevhynaleks2631
@kevhynaleks2631 2 жыл бұрын
@@horridus2842 He talk about the usage of the background music of the "hungarian folk-tales cartoon serial" in the clip...
@andraselias995
@andraselias995 2 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly unbiased video, thank you for that. Not many people dare to stick their hands into that hornet's nest risking to start a huge shitstorm in comment section. :) As a Hungarian, of course I'm very sad that this beautiful land doesn't belong to my country anymore, but what's done is done. We've fucked up many times in our history, loosing Transylvania is only one of the many. Now that both Romania, and we are in the EU, fortunately we all can freely visit the place, and I strongly encourage everyone to do so. It's really magically beautiful. As for the hatred, I think it's mostly fueled by the politicans of both sides. That's only sad that after more that 100 years since the Trianon decision people in Transylvania are still pawns in a political game. I think it's time to bury the hatchet and find a constructive solution which all sides can live with. For that of course we all should first start to teach facts to our children rather than propaganda. That video helps you to understand the basics in 10 minutes without either side's brainwashing. Well done. :)
@wovemalkalivan306
@wovemalkalivan306 2 жыл бұрын
I am a Romanian and i dont see any reason to hate hungarians. The thing with Transilvania is a strange topic since Transilvania was in the past 500 years or so a land of hungarians and romanians as well in different eras( even though Transilvania was a land of Dacia wich became Romania after the war with Roman imperium since 2500 or 2000 years ago, cant remember exactly, i just know my nation history but I dont exacly know your nation's history unfortunetly, all I know is that your nation migrated in Europe around 300-400 years ago, maybe im wrong). It is what it is, Moldova should normally belong to us since most of the population actually speak Romanian but it was what it was in the past. In Transilvania most of the people i know speak Romanian but there are quite a few hungarians as well. No reason to hate each other for something it happened in the past my friend. We are the same nation all of us.
@stanioanfelix4481
@stanioanfelix4481 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree, but how can you lose something that wasn't yours initially. Austro-Hungary was a big thing at its time, that's why transylvania went under this empire. And it was controlled by Budapest ( if you agree to this, then Austria should also have claims on transylvania right?!). Then even if it was Austro-Hungarian land, the majority of the population was? Romanian. History is tricky and shady, but there are a few facts. 2000 years ago transylvania moldova and Wallachia were united. From around 1000 indeed hungarian influence started to appear in transylvania ( different archeological sites proved it),but the most important at any point of time, the majority of the population were romanians.
@dudua3755
@dudua3755 Жыл бұрын
Wow I really invite you as well to see more of the country than just Transylvania! The southern carpathians are beautiful, and are a must to be seen; places like Balea Lac, the Moldoveanu peak, the Transfagarasan. We also have the mud volcanos in Moldavia, Peles castle in Wallachia, Poenari castle; the place where Vlad the Impaler truly stayed. Additionally we have the Danube Delta, which in my opinion is the best place to be in Romania, the biodiversity there is insane. Point being, Transylvania is beautiful, and holds many things dear to all of us, I just think it would be interesting for Hungarians to see the rest of the country as well.
@victory7999
@victory7999 Жыл бұрын
@@wovemalkalivan306 Well you didn't learn your history too well. Hungarians have been in Europe for significantly longer than you Romanians. In school you learned a lot of propaganda about Dacia being Romania and Romania existing 2500 years ago which is all utterly false. Dacia existed less than 2000 years ago and was in no way Romania. It was not even a country or nation, but tribes instead. Dacians aren't Romanian anyway, only the Daco-Roman Theory says that Dacians are distant ancestors of the Romanians. Actual Romanians only appeared in Europe in the 1300s. Hungarians on the other hand came to Europe in the 800s (1200 years ago, not 300), so have been in Europe for 500 more years than Romanians. Actual modern Hungarians were therefore in Transylvania before actual modern Romanians. Now let's ask ourselves, who had more influence in Transylvania: -A few Dacian, barely Romanian tribesmen for maybe a few hundred years -Or proper, modern Hungarians who owned the entire region as a part of their country for over a millenium, building all major towns, cities and castles in the area
@victory7999
@victory7999 Жыл бұрын
@@stanioanfelix4481 "how can you lose something that wasn't yours initially?" Exactly! How could Romania ever 'lose' Transylvania, if it was never Romanians in the first place! Romania's only claim to Transylvania is the Dacians living there for a short time thousands of years ago, who aren't actually Romanians (the Daco-Roman Theory is just a theory, not a fact, sorry). So really Romania has no claim to Transylvania, other than the fact that many Romanians migrated there during the Ottoman wars, which is a very weak territorial claim, it's the equivalent of Polish migrant workers settling in Berlin, and then Berlin being given to Poland as a result. Oh, and btw the Romanians were the MINORITY for most of the time in Transylvania. Only after the Ottoman wars did the Romanian population actually become large and they only overtook the Hungarian population sometime in the 1800s. From about 1000 to 1800, there were more Hungarians there. And to answer your nonsense about Austria-Hungary, it's irrelevant to the discussion as Hungary owned Transylvania long before it became Austria-Hungary.
@Patrick.Alexandru
@Patrick.Alexandru 2 жыл бұрын
No Transilvania?
@CorruptedPath
@CorruptedPath 2 жыл бұрын
Wow so cool, also it's appear Știrile Pro TV (Romania) lol
@Rat0mirescu
@Rat0mirescu 2 жыл бұрын
I am a romanian, but I don't hate my neighboor who is a hungarian. In fact, he is very Kind!
@alexrobert4339
@alexrobert4339 2 жыл бұрын
You don't,but romanians from Transilvania do
@Rat0mirescu
@Rat0mirescu 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexrobert4339 :)))) I am from the middle of Transilvania!
@user-hc8mi7fp8r
@user-hc8mi7fp8r 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexrobert4339 To be honest, if I walk on the street, nobody calls me bozgor just bevause I speak hungarian. Zhe hate goes only in politics and on the internet
@sygmarvexarion7891
@sygmarvexarion7891 2 жыл бұрын
Just don't bring up the ownership of Transylvania.
@DacianRider
@DacianRider Жыл бұрын
@@user-hc8mi7fp8r given the use of Cyrillic in your name, I'd be tempted to call you bozgor... even bozgor infect ! hoping the soviet and austro-hungayrian empires stay dead and buried ! ✌
@sebiinc.4086
@sebiinc.4086 2 жыл бұрын
Very good explanation of history. Even tough is true that there are some tensions between romanians and hungarians, from common man to another there is no such thing. We pretty much get along just fine. I am a student studying history tho and we have a class of hungarian students. Usually they are the ones that are radical and could fire some sparks, but overall, we love each other. Great video!
@barzinvasilecurvaru4428
@barzinvasilecurvaru4428 2 жыл бұрын
What's the song at 8:09 ?
@gigachad1651
@gigachad1651 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to know where is that charachter is from
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