Well lets see, Lizzie lied about where she was when it happened, she lied about being in the barn, she lied about reading a magazine in the kitchen, she lied about her stepmother getting a note and going out, she tried to get Bridget to leave the house, she burned a dress right after the murder, she tried to buy poison a week before the murders, and she hated her stepmother. How could anyone think she didnt do it?

The one thing that sticks in my mind is when Lizzie was asked"did you kill your parents" she did not say No!! She said "I am innocent" and when asked "did you kill your mother" she just said "she is not my mother"

Fun fact: Elizabeth Montgomery who played Lizzie Borden in the 1975 film was actually related to her. They were cousins.

I’ve been watching a lot of KZfaq’s lately on Lizzie. Your’s is by far the most thoroughly researched and informational. I just learned so many new interesting facts. Thank you for this video

Based on the injuries, it was a crime of rage. Whoever killed them, extremely hated them, especially the father. It takes rage to butcher specifically a face area.

Its always bothered me how it could have been possible for lizzie to have changed clothing,( women wore a lot of layers then and her shoes, stockins, petticoats would have blood stain) washed the blood splatters from her hair and skin,( without running water in the house) restyled her hair (wouldnt it have been wet?) And hid the hatchet...in such a short period of time while the maid napped...also, if she killed them an hour or more apart, she'd have to have cleaned herself up between murders. Sent Bridget to take a nap, greet her father, kill him, and clean up again...not realistic.

In Lizzie's defense: The reason for her seemingly conflicting answers at the inquest might be that they had her heavily sedated for some time after the murders.

Some interesting new facts that I didn't know before. I don't think she used a hatchet because the wounds on Abby's head don't look like hatchet wounds at all. According to a show I saw on you tube called Lizzie Borden"s weapon the wounds on Abby's head match up nicely with a flat iron like the one she supposedly used to iron handkerchiefs that morning. She would have had plenty of time to clean herself off afterwards. As for her father,you will note his body was found with his top coat partially under his head. Now I don't think he would have wanted to soil his everyday coat using it for a pillow when a small cushion or the armrest would do just as well. No, he hung up his coat as usual and laid down to rest. A little later Lizzie put on his large coat over her dress and killed him with the iron,took off his coat and shoved it under his head. Next all she had to do was wash off her hand and the iron and replace it on the stove. Now the murder weapon is hidden in plain sight.

It was customary back then for the dead to remain in the home until prepared for burial... usually a volunteer and friend of family sat with the corpse.

Oh I believe she did it. She got lucky when her interrogation couldn't be used because of no attorney present. I think she likely stripped down to minimum clothing before committing the murders to prevent blood stained clothes. It was much easier to commit murder back then with forensics being so unevolved.

In my opinion the murders were overkill. Lizzie did it

Nothing here I haven’t heard before, but that’s precisely why I appreciate it: the presenter gives “just the facts” and doesn’t posit some nutty theory.

My best friend and her hubby spent the night in the murder room..She said she kept waking up, and getting scared because there was a mannequin standing in the corner of the room..It had a costume on it that Elizabeth Montgomery wore in a movie about Lizzie Borden..She also said that they had the same type of breakfast that the Borden's had on their last day ..I know she was expecting to hear chains,and walking but she said nothing happened that could not be explained,and she highly recommended that I check it out..

Re: The Borden girls calling the maid Maggie, rather than her true name, Bridget. As far back as Great Britain, this was considered the privilege of rank. I understand it was fairly common for a master or mistress to refer to their servant by a name which they liked or which was easy for them to remember.

I've always been fascinated by this story..and this was brilliant,it shed some new light light on the case..well done!

Very interesting , my simple view is there must have been some collusion going on, for only one person to commit the crimes would surely have been almost impossible and risky with Lizzie and the maid in the house

This was fantastic!! I've read so much about this and yet I learned so much more! I need to watch this again. Thank you!

It appears from the house diagram that there is no hallway connecting the rooms. You would have to go through one bedroom to get to another. No privacy it seems.

At 28:08 mention is made of Andrew wearing his congress boots, though Lizzie had claimed to have helped him put on slippers. In a contemporary news article it was reported that people present had put the boots onto Andrew's feet before the picture was taken. It was felt that showing him in stocking feet--as was reported in this article--would have been undignified! Just because a newspaper article says something, does not make it true. Maybe it is and maybe it is not. It is another sliver of information that might support Lizzie's account of her last interaction with her father.

We will never know who truly did it . All we know is that Lizzie was beautiful from her pictures . I really admire her for leaving her fortune to animal welfare .

Only one thing is that he said october 4 instead of August.

Just because Lizzy looks to be the most obvious suspect in the matter; no one has proven that she did in fact do it. There could be any number of suspects. Including her Uncle. Lot of players. What if when we reach the other side we find she did not do it but her odd behavior simply made it look that way?

Morris “ suddenly “shows up right before the crime? He wants money.( that’s why he moved/ came to visit the last minute).

Great presentation, Mr. Daley. I have read one theory that the Maid was aware Lizzie did it and kept quiet, for whatever reason. It would have been difficult for her to have been that close in proximity and been unaware what had transpired-or certainly she had to have very strong suspicions.

To clarify: Abby Borden was the FIRST victim, not the second.

Good gods. Lizzie murdered her father and stepmother to have the MONEY and FREEDOM. It's pretty flipping simple. At that time in history, women lived in their father's home until they married or their father died. As a spinster, Lizzie would be required by law (and society) to live with her parents until she or they died. Daddy dearest dies, Lizzie and her sister inherit as the only surviving members of the household. The jury didn't convict her because they were MEN who could not believe a woman of Lizzie's social status (and women in general) could ever do anything like that. All you have to do understand the era and social expectations of the time.

Oddly enough I read the trace of the Viscilla AXE murderer’s , believed to being disguised as a traveling minister, led a path that placed him in the area of the Borden’s town at the time of their deaths. Has this possibility been investigated?

If da hatchet don't fit; you must aquit! A made for tv was made in 1975 that starred Elizabeth Montgomery as Lizzie Borden and Fritz Weaver as her father. The sister was played by Katherine Helmond. I remember watching it as a boy. The plot includes a vague hint that Lizzie was sexually abused by her father. Her real mother had died when Lizzie was very young.

Very interesting--but I had hoped we would see a question-answer session with the audience.

She completely avoided her uncle.....hmm 🤔 And Emma suddenly decides to visit at that exact time, when she is known to rarely visit anyone

Reminds me of the Jonbenet Ramsay murder case, given the questionable claims by *witnesses* of strangers and outsiders being near or in the house who could have committed the crime.

Very very interesting. Seen many shows on this topic, but none had this much detail. Excellent production.

"two seater latrine in the basement" Good Lord.

she is not my mother she is my step mother-not really a red flag unless she said it like a b. She could just be letting them know the fact, could be in shock. If I was an officer I would like to know that fact. Because that means Lizzie might not be familiar with her step mothers “enemies” if she hasn’t known her her entire life.

Great presentation I really enjoyed this

Lizzie came to the door dazed from the murders of her parents -so when her neighbor came to that door-she was sickened stunned.

Thankyou Mr. Daley, I loved your presentation of the case of Lizzie Borden . Lots of detailed information then & now. The homes being bread & breakfast Inn Tours too. I also watched the 1975 movie with Elizabeth Montgomery again as I did as a teen. I'm 62 and this movie still haunts me.😊❤🙏✌

Andrew wasn't all that bad.. lizzie went to Europe, they also had there own dress makers. Both ladies were given homes , i thought they lived pretty good

Back then, dresses were far more expensive than they are now, and standard practice was to re-fashion them when they got torn, damaged etc. and even the wealthy did that. Or they passed them on to staff or the poor. So it is highly unlikely that someone would burn a brand new dress just because it "brushed against some wet paint". (Unless the entire dress got covered with the whole can, that is- which is also highly unlikely). I'm surprised the prosecution didn't raise that issue for the jury to consider. But maybe an all-male legal team and jury wouldn't have thought much about it.

Andrew didn't buy a tenement building for Lizzie and Emma. It was his own home on Ferry Street.

It was long rumored that Lizzie was lesbian, in fact notes made in Bridgets diary at the time indicate a relationship between Lizzie and Bridget. Police noted several looks between Lizzie and Bridget when police arrived. Bridget also received a mysterious inheritance a few years later which allowed her to return to Ireland. Bridget was Lizzies accomplice during the murders.

After just a few minutes in, the frugality of Mr. Borden hit a home-run. I was raised by my grandparents. They lived through the depression; and the effect that it had upon them for the rest of their whole lives - was exactly the same. They didn't need to watch every dime, but they did. They just 'had' to I guess. My Great grandparents, who I also knew. Grandma had one of those 4 to 5 story real-old wood-framed houses in old Los Angeles. I never did explore that whole thing. Kinda scary. Anyway, I remember him saying at the beginning that he was going to discuss some of his own theories about the case. He never did.

As a Lizbeth Borden aficionado, (and having toured the house SEVERAL times), I’d like to point out several errors and omissions he made. 1. The murders occurred August NOT October 2. Abbey was FIRST victim, NOT SECOND. 3. The building he gave Lizbeth & Emma he already owned. He didn’t buy it for them. 4. He had to buy it back because it was decrepit, and they didn’t want it, because it would cost them too much to repair. 5. Neglected to mention that John Morris showed up unexpectedly, without prior notice AND without luggage! 6. Lizbeth was ALSO supposed to go to the Brownell’s, but a school meeting delayed her going. 7. Lizbeth & Emma RARELY ate breakfast with Abbey & Andrew. 8. Dr. Bowen couldn’t have been “on the scene within just a few minutes”, as he was on a house call some distance away. 9. The first strike to Abbey she was facing her assailant. The first blow spun her around and she went down. 10. Preliminary autopsies were done in the dining room, NOT the sitting room. 11. The box with the broken hatchet was a box of old tools. 12. Lizbeth also left money to others besides those he mentioned. She paid.to send people to school, she also paid for a monument for someone’s grave. She was rather generous in her later life. 13. He neglected to mention that Andrew was about to transfer the Swansea Farm to Abbey, and John Morris was “supposedly” involved with/had knowledge of it. 14. Also never mentioned a bucket of bloody rags found in the basement which were reported to be Lizbeth’s menstrual rags. Bridget said during testimony that “those weren’t there, or I’d have washed them.” 15. No mention that several valuables went “missing” from Andrew & Abbey’s rooms. 16. The side door was habitually kept locked. Andrew wouldn’t have tried for that door…he always used the front door. I suggest you read “The History and Haunting of Lizzie Borden” by Rebecca Pittman. She actually reviewed the court transcripts for the book, and goes into a lot of the evidence and testimony.

If Lizzie had killed her parents, why would she burn the dress in front of two people?

If only my history teacher taught us in this style, so very engaging..... I would have appreciated history topics before. It was a major snoozefest back in the day.

I still believe that Lizzie Borden was guilty as hell . There no way somebody could come into her house undetected brutally kills 2 people without seeing and hearing all the noises and commotions going while the murders taken place especially with the step mother who was a very big woman who had falling hard to the floor as she was being attacked that would had cause a lot noise just by her falling i'am pretty sure she was screaming at the top of lungs as she was being attacked. But nobody didn't hear nothing iam not buying that . Lizzie definitely killed both of them and I believe Bridget the maid heard all the commotions and noises goin and maybe knew what had taken place there but kept her mouth shut to protect Lizzie. Lizzie probably paid her some hush money to keep her mouth shut for the rest of her life. I don't think Bridget participate in the killings but there's no doubt she had to heard some kind noises thru out the house if not seen the actual killing taken place I do believe she knews a lot more than what she is saying Because it doesn't make any sense how could they both be at home or outside near the house and not hearing any kind of noises and not seeing anybody plus killing the step mother first then hide undetected in the house for almost 1 hr half waiting until her father comes home then kills him then escape undetected with blood all over them without anybody noticing and seeing that person in broad daylight .I don't believe that for one second I believe somebody would had came forward that they saw a stranger walking down the street with bloody clothes on. Lizzie Borden was a killer she is the only person in that house on the day of murders that had a real motive to kills her father who was a very stingy tight man who she felt was neglecting her and showing favoritism towards her step mother who she had hated and despise. And maybe she had done it because she thought or suspected that her old man who was getting up there in age was probably going to leave everything in his will to the step mother when he dies. Or maybe she didn't want to share nothing with the step mother in her father's estate instead it would be divided equally between her sister Emma. I also find it a little suspicious about Emma on day of the murders she who stays to herself mostly time doesn't goes out much anywhere and doing much visiting anybody but on the day of the murders she does. I think that's very strange I am wondering if she and Lizzie got together with these plans for murders and Emma went along with it but told Lizzie wait until I leave town because I don't want to be around it when it happens. I don't know I could be wrong about Emma I just find it very strange for a person doesn't get out much stay to themselves doesn't visit or socialize with many people why all of sudden on the day of murders she decided to do that she didn't do much before the murders.

Very well told ! Thank you for sharing this video,

I remember seeing a ballet based on Lizzie Borden, “Fall River Legend” written by Agnes De Mille, niece of Cecil B. De Mille (director whose films earned the moniker “a cast of thousand” due to his use of thousands of extras.).

I have always had a interest in the Lizzy Borden case .This has been a different story then I have heard before . But one night I was watching a show on TV . Called Dead Files .And was a crazy story .

Lizzy did it, she got acquitted because at the time no one believed that a woman was capable of doing something so vicious.

I did stay in the spare bedroom where Abby Borden was killed. In fact, I actually slept on that side of the bed where Abby’s body was, because my friend was too creeped out to take that side of the bed!

In current time, why don’t the owners of the house restore the backyard and remove the asphalt, during the restoration a X-ray scan of the yard could be preformed, to see what’s buried, if anything. Why isn’t there an investigation of the whole house?

I have strong doubts about Lizzie’s culpability in this case. For one thing, there was another axe murder in Fall River, a few months before the Borden’s murders. It also occurred at a fairly large house, during the day. There was one victim. There was no one else home at the time. They arrested a man on suspicion in that murder a few days prior to the Borden murders. Interestingly, he was not known to the area, was a very recent immigrant to America, Jose Correiro had only arrived in America a short time before the first murder was committed, immigrating from the Portuguese Azores islands. He was working on the property which was on a farm. According to the local paper, he could not have committed the Borden murders, as reported Correira "came to America from the Western Islands about two months ago..." (New Bedford Evening Standard, June 1, 1893). This would place him arriving in the states in about April. Much too early to be present on August, 4th 1892, the day the Borden murders were committed. That’s not to say they had the right man. In that day and age, there would have been a high prejudice against immigrants, (as commented on, here in reference to Brigette Sullivan, an Irish immigrant with a very Irish name, being called Maggie - the name of the former maid for the household). In fact, the murders happened so closely in time that the jury was sequestered before they would have even been aware that an arrest had been made in the first case. This murder happened on May 30, 1893. The papers reported this other hatchet murder the following day prior to the Borden Trial jury being sequestered. He was arrested on June 3rd of the same year, 1893. I think it was very convenient for them to wrap it up by arresting the immigrant who was the newest affiliated person with the first milieu of people in that murder. He would have had no one to vouch for him or his character, no family and no means of securing his own defense. He was just 19 years old at the time of his arrest. The “confession” was that the police believed he knew the location of a watch that had allegedly been taken from the house where Bertha was murdered. So much of the information about it is contradictory. I haven’t had a chance to track it all down and create a solid timeline. Bertha Manchester was the victim, 22 years old, she worked on the farm and was alone in the house when attacked. She suffered 22 strikes to the head and face, with an axe or similar sharp heavy weapon. Just like the Borden’s. Abby was struck 20 times. Andrew was struck ten times. The same doctor conducted all the autopsies of both cases. It’s likely that the energy was spent on Abby, and imo Abby was the primary target. Both crimes occurred within Fall River’s city limits, wounds were similar in location and number, the assassin appeared to linger at the scene after the murders, the victims were slaughtered in their homes in the morning hours, and valuable items were reportedly left undisturbed... except for the watch that was later cited to be from the house where Bertha Manchester was killed. It’s just too many similarities in a short time span for my mind to easily dismiss as coincidental...

Could lizzie or her uncle have known that the police would be at their annual picnic?

There is no hard evidence that Lizzie committed this crime. There is more evidence that she didn’t. The jury was completely right to find her not guilty. Whatever my opinion of her guilt, there was absolutely reasonable doubt.

12:58 it is disrespectful especially to modern sensibilities, but calling a servant by another name wasn't something the sisters invented, it was a tradition in some upper class homes, I was aware of that tradition in England but it seems from this it was also done in America. It was most certainly disrespectful, but disrespect towards servants was not at all unusual. Probably can't single the sisters out just for that.

It was August 4. Correct?

I've studied this case for 50 yrs,you didn't mention the fact that 2 different farms 50 miles away had murders similar to this 2 months earlier. No one was ever caught for those murders and I'll go to my grave defending lizzie. Animal lovers don't murder people.

A lot of pear eating that day.

Lizzie did it. She got off because of inept investigation and the unwillingness of many to believe that a young woman could do it, especially a young woman of the towns illustrious family, even the cadet branch. She really hated her step mother and was terribly angry at her father. She had mental issues.

if you've ever been to a campground, you know how bad an outhouse stinks, most farmhouses had the outhouse far from the house, imagine how badly it stunk in winter with the house closed up against the cold and in summer, even with the windows open, the heat would make the stink even worse... that alone, over the years, knowing he had the money to change things, might be enough to drive one mad...

"11:13AM in the morning"? As opposed to 11:13 AM at night?

I remember when my great grandmother's sister died. She lived way out in the country so she was laid out in my Nana's foyer. AND they draped a lightweight Scranton lace tablecloth over the open casket to keep any flies from getting near.....and family "sat" at the foot of the casket day And night......I was 5....it was all very strange to me. I'm 75 now......😂(Glory to God !)

Mr. Daley, I really enjoyed this presentation! TY!!!

They may not of had electricity, but they were one of the first homes with plumbing and Hot water.... 🛁🚽🚿 I think they were spoiled brats ...

Not only is there a thrill from stealing, but she also didn't have consequences for her actions. Why would she stop?

Great talk, he tells LB story very frankly, feel very much like a well known trustworthy friend I’d relating this over coffee. What a compelling and smooth story teller this guy is. I have read a few books on these murders, this version is best, he presents the facts but does not try to invent a narrative to explain who or why. Great talk

As has so often been pointed out: Marriage was the only acceptable profession for gently bred women of that time. By the standards of the day, Lizzie and her sister were lucky to be receiving any support from their father. It was not uncommon for a woman’s single state to be lamented and resented.

Odd that the man pinched pennies on modern comforts and yet spent money on a maid when there were three women in the house to keep up the womens work.

Enjoyed this very much. Well done. The photo of maplecroft with car out front., NOTICE THE HOUSE WITH PORCH TO LEFT. THAT WAS LAWYERS HOUSE WHO TOOK ALICE. STATEMENT ABOUT THE DRESS... TKS FOR VIDEO...ALWAYS WANTED TO SEE EMMAS HOUSE. EMMA STAYED 12 YEARS WITH LIZZIE. LONG TIME BEFORE SHE MOVED OUT. LOL

Again , her flat demeanor is expected in someone that has experienced trauma , she has . So things like this are how we learned people act in a certain manner after trauma . You’re biased by what they say in portraying her as being flippant rather than in shock . I get why , and you’re information is the best I’ve ever seen and I’ve always been a Lizzie fan .

Very well presented. Thank you. Ive heard the Lizzy Borden story ay least a 100 times. Lol. But this was very interesting and gave fresh ideas to an old case.

Wonderful speaker; he fleshed out the story of Lizzie Borden. So much information that I had never heard before. I really enjoyed this.

Raymond long 1 second ago Guilt depends on how much money you have

Saw the Elizabeth Montgomery film, it made a strong case for Lizzie's guilt; the evidence we can see here, maybe not so much. I really can't quite decide!

This presentation is superb. Bravo.

In case anybody didn't know believe it or not Elizabeth Montgomery was actually a distance cousin of Lizzie Borden I don't know if Elizabeth knew that herself when she was alive but anybody look it up on Elizabeth Montgomery it will tell you they were distance cousins I believe it I do see some family resemblances between Elizabeth Montgomery and Lizzie Borden they do look very similar a lot.

lets see three people home in broad daylight two people hacked to death with an ax and nobody saw or heard a thing except for a moan ,if you buy that then contact me i have some land in a near by swamp i would like to sell you

She did it. The maid knew, but was paid off. Read a book called “A Private Disgrace”.

Well explained and very easy to follow..thank you for all the details in this breakdown!

Narrator got too much time on camera. What about Emma -- who felt the same as Lizzie about "Mrs. Borden"? Was her alibi as sound as "Maggie"'s? Andrew's illegitimate son is ignored. He had been in trouble previosly for axe-related assault, was mentally challenged, and wanted to be acknowledged by his father. Our narrator can't even get the month of the crime right? This is an hour of rubbish.

Officer on duty was Chief Wiggums (Simpsons)

SO interesting, SO well done! Thank you!

So interesting and captivating. Great speaker...great detail. Thank you. I am listening to this in my car, on my way to work.

People in New England don’t name their houses? Someone might want to fact check that statement. I believe it was fairly common, especially when houses were built before there were a lot of other houses around them, they wouldn’t be numbered. I live in New England and we have several houses in town which still have names. Often they are named after a prominent owner.

This was very interesting. Thank you 😊

You’re wrong. He had plenty of money by the time he died, but refused to move to a better house. They did not have indoor plumbing or electricity still had basically an outhouse; although in the basement.

You're way off on the date of the murder. It was August 4th 1892 not October 4th

October? I thought it August.

Everyone must have been scared of Lizzie..

I believe Emma was 12 years old when her mother died there was only one stillborn before Lizzie was born. Andrew is buried between his two wives. Both my grandmother and great-grandmother knew her and said that she was very nice. During her time at maplecroft she did have a best friend but I forgot her name and it was not the actress. I believe she had a couple of dogs and one black cat. She was very nice to people, she would do anything for you.

There was no evidence that Lizzie was on the stairs. Bridgett said she heard laughter and assumed it was Lizzie. She specifically said she did not see her.

So many innacuracies in this Abby wasn't in her early thirties when she married Andrew she was in her late 30s early ,,40s that's why she never had kids with andrew

The entire town probably knew those girls were being sexually assaulted by their father, even wore the ring of his favorite victim where his wedding band should have been, and stood behind the girls when justice occurred to that man and the woman who condoned his vile behavior just to get rich someday when he would inevitably pass away. Only she didn't count on being the first to go.

Very well done presentation. Thank you for sharing.

TBH, I don’t think Lizzie did it. I think her sister Emma did. Perhaps she felt threatened by Abby as a mother figure. At any rate, the father’s murder was a crime of passion. It’s been stated that mutilating the face/body indicates a love/hate relationship; it was personal. Perhaps one or both of them was being molested. I do like the theory of the flat iron! They were cast iron back then and very heavy.

I don't think she did it. I've studied this case for years, the facts just don't make sense, how she could have done it.🤔 1st: I don't think that even the "time of death" for Abby is even correct...Forensics weren't advanced enough; the heat in the house, wasn't taken into account, and so it can make it look like a different time, then what the doctor stated. It was quite some time before Abby was found, after the police, and doctor arrived. 2nd: Lizzy wasn't use to swinging an axe, she was petite, and it takes a lot of strength for someone to swing, especially that many times, without missing (plus, she was also still feeling the effects of food poisoning)...and for her to even swing it that high for her height, is far too much to be believed...btw, during that time period, there were many families, across the country that were being killed with Axes...and especially at the time, it wasn't really a woman's M.O. to use an axe to commit murder (A knife would have been more believable). These were murders, done by a man. 3rd: Lizzy was inspected for blood, and not a drop was found on her...even if she had done it naked, there's still no way for her to not have had the time to hide the weapon so well, wash herself clean (including her hair), change clothes, etc., (All without running water, or electricity), from the time her father was killed, to when she called for help. 4th: Lizzy was being given injections of 1800's Morphine, before she was questioned, all throughout her time in jail, and trial...She was so drugged up, that there's no way she could have understood what she was being questioned, and that's why she didn't always answer the same way, except that she didn't do it. 5: Lizzy was a Daddy's Girl, and being 1 myself, I don't believe that she could have done that to him. The only thing that I believe she was guilty of, was being home, when the murders happened...They immediately made her the only suspect, and didn't even try very hard to look for another suspect, there's still not enough of circumstantial evidence today, let alone real evidence, to even put her as a suspect. This was a really badly done investigation, with so many people, talking all of the time...I do believe in spirits, I've had enough experiences to know that they exist, but just because they're were some EVP's caught, doesn't mean that you have all of the facts...I've seen other investigators get different names, and even strangers/unknown, to the history of this case. If you don't believe every "EVP", and only listen to the facts, that's known with the case, then you'll understand that this case will never be solved.

Very interesting presentation. I enjoyed your running commentary about one of my favorite real life murderers. Thank you.

I'm one of the few people who has never been convinced Lizzie was guilty. I think it's very possible she was in on the plotting of it, but she was not the actual killer. I think it was a hired hit aimed at the father and the stepmother was nothing more than collateral damage, unfortunately. I think the timing of the uncle's visit has always been very suspect. I've also thought the maid had more involvement than she claimed. The washing of the second floor windows on that morning with a ladder would be a great ruse for watching what's going on in the house and signaling someone outside that it's okay to come inside. I think Lizzie was an odd woman and would probably be on today what is considered the autism spectrum. But an odd person does not a murderer make. Also, have you ever actually lifted a hatchet over your head multiple times? It's a very good point that most women would not be able to do this dozens of times unless they were super fit. Most women would be exhausted by the end of the first murder, let alone go commit a second one the same way. Speaking of hatchets, it was a murder weapon of convenience at the time. Something anyone could pick up on their way into the house because everyone had at least one. If she really wanted her parents dead, why not just poison them? Cleaner, neater, less blood, less evidence. This is probably why, by and large, women are not well known to be violent criminals unless they're literally thrill killers.

Did the inept police even check to see if Lizzie owned a seal skin coat to need the poison to clean? There's also a report by one of the police left to guard the house the first night (it's on Internet Archive) that he saw Lizzie go down into the basement alone in the middle of the night and was doing something unrelated to the latrine. And two seats over what was basically a cesspool at the base of the house in the August heat rising into the house. Imagine what THAT smelled like!!! Could have been why they were sick if flies got to the food after the basement.