Borden yard 1892 and 2021

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Lizzie Borden Warps and Wefts

Lizzie Borden Warps and Wefts

3 жыл бұрын

Comparing the exterior of the Borden house today to 1892
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@Ralphie5023
@Ralphie5023 2 жыл бұрын
Those idiots caused so much damage to that historical site . I cannot believe the city allowed those new owners to do everything they did . In their great wisdom they paved the back yard and tore down the barn ? UNBELIEVABLE !
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 2 жыл бұрын
The original barn was torn down decades ago. A replica barn was built by Donald Woods around 2006 and the back yard paved for a parking lot for the B&B. Yes, many of us wish the house and grounds were restored to 1892 entirely and a real house museum would be open to the public about the famous case. The city has never shown much interest in this.
@Ralphie5023
@Ralphie5023 2 жыл бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts Yes, there is so much more to this property than making money as a B&B . It is a piece of American history that speaks about so many facets of the period. even besides the unsolved horrible crime.
@Billygoatsgrruff
@Billygoatsgrruff Жыл бұрын
@@Ralphie5023 modern designers have a lot to answer for. Destroying beautiful old homes and replacing them with ugly brick buildings like across the road
@sparkykitty6870
@sparkykitty6870 2 күн бұрын
Agreed. I love preserving history.
@cindyski4413
@cindyski4413 Жыл бұрын
I think Lizzy did it and her uncle helped her.
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts Жыл бұрын
Many people do! Uncle John has that sneaky face! 🙂
@kennethwilkinson8244
@kennethwilkinson8244 7 ай бұрын
i have been on the tour 7 times.
@dexterlovejoy2855
@dexterlovejoy2855 2 жыл бұрын
Very good narration!! Thank You for sharing!
@adamw7290
@adamw7290 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. That helped to put in perspective of how the property and surrounding property was back then.
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 жыл бұрын
I am very glad it was helpful to you.
@adamw7290
@adamw7290 3 жыл бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts My sister and I are going to stay there for five nights straight next week. I'll be able to share this info with her and imagine how it was in my mind.
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 жыл бұрын
@@adamw7290 I am glad you will be staying a long time- it takes a long time to absorb it all.
@lizziebordenaudio
@lizziebordenaudio 3 жыл бұрын
Another great one, Shelley! I Love Len Rebello's book.
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 жыл бұрын
Len's book is a must-have for the Bordenian Bookshelf.
@jprez7295
@jprez7295 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I get this book
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 2 жыл бұрын
@@jprez7295 It often appears on ebay or on the used book online stores like Bookfinder or ABE books. It is a good reference source.
@jprez7295
@jprez7295 2 жыл бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts thank you 😊
@ssoozee
@ssoozee 3 ай бұрын
Great video!
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! :-)
@mandylem
@mandylem 3 күн бұрын
i wonder if anyone checked the old well for the hatchet before filling it in and burying it
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 күн бұрын
Yes, and they also checked the well at the Borden farm in Swansea and the outdoor privy.
@kathikay8942
@kathikay8942 3 ай бұрын
Interesting. I think the barn and area should have been prrserved What a shame Ironic that a giant court house was built right accross the street.
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 ай бұрын
Yes, the Bristol County Superior court is far too big on that lot. Nobody is a fan of the huge structure right on South Main Street. What were they thinking?
@amandawest9828
@amandawest9828 Жыл бұрын
Like the video u did a wonderful job i like the house it is gorgeous and in good shape i remember hearing about it and seen the movie that was sad and terrible
@krisweaver7524
@krisweaver7524 Жыл бұрын
The uncle has some explaining to do. He just shows up. The next day 2 people are dead. He happens to leave in the morning and come back in the afternoon and the exact right times with a perfect alibi. After the trial he leaves town and never returns. Patricide is an overwhelmingly male crime. I would imagine even more so with a hatchet. The uncle was also a butcher by trade, which would fit the MO for this murder.
@jenniferlloyd9574
@jenniferlloyd9574 5 ай бұрын
Another thing that's interesting was the order in which Andrew and Abby were killed. Because Abby was noticably (rigor mortis) killed first, the inheritance did not go to her relatives. Had Andrew been killed first, the Borden girls wouldn't have received the entire estate because it would have passed to Abby's relatives. She was, after all, not directly related to her step-daughters. Uncle John had come under the pretence of discussing property. My understanding is that Andrew had begun to parcel away properties due to the fact that he had entered old age and was settling his personal affairs. This could have been an avoidance of property or estate taxes upon his death. Seventy years of age was rather old in 1892 because people didn't live as long as they do today. Andrew's spinster daughters were due to receive a stipend to live on after his death. This wasn't good enough for Lizzie and she was agitated that Andrew was giving away properties. He had just signed one over to Abby's sister. Andrew - ever the businessman - was reaching far into the future to exert control from the grave. Lizzie must have been steaming over this... No husband, no prospects, no income, no trade or training, no children, no future other than the one decreed by Andrew Borden with a future stipend to match his enduring frugality. This is not sympathy for Lizzie, rather it's an explanation for my belief that she was involved in the murders of Andrew and Abby. Lizzie's involvement poses one of two reasons 1) either Andrew molested his daughters while they were young, thereby explaining why neither ever married OR 2) Lizzie was a spoiled sociopath who would rather murder Andrew and Abby in order to obtain her full inheritance. If Lizzie and her sister _were_ molested, this would explain both women's secretive behavior. Lizzie did act like a kook, but sexual abuse could explain this... However, taking other things into account, Lizzie appears to be spoiled, narcissistic, bratty and entitled. Never underestimate someone who will do anything for money.
@erikj2155
@erikj2155 3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean buried clothes? I have not heard that before.
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 жыл бұрын
The bloody clothing worn by Abby and Andrew Borden were put down in the wash cellar. Uncle John Morse hired a man to bury them behind the barn. The police asked them to be dug up, they were later reburied in a box when the police were finished, only to be dug up again and retained. The police advised that nothing be done with them from the first day, but Uncle John ignored this.
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 жыл бұрын
@Buba Joe Yes, we have read the book by Arnold Brown. That was his theory about Billy Borden.
@erikj2155
@erikj2155 2 жыл бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts thank you!
@MrTedrow
@MrTedrow Жыл бұрын
Why were the barn and the pear trees Winfield pear trees removed
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts Жыл бұрын
The original barn was torn down decades ago. A reproduction barn is still there, built around 2006. The whole back yard was part of the Leary Press- Smart Advertising business owned by the McGinns until it was sold in 2004. Woods-Wilber co-owners tore down the printing press building, rebuilt the barn and planted some pear trees. They are still there.
@jeannecox136
@jeannecox136 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to the hatchet found on top of barn .? Was it ever checked by police.?
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 2 жыл бұрын
The hatchet was found on the top of Mr. Crowe's barn which was behind and to the south one lot of the Borden back yard. ( Behind Dr. Kelly's house).There was an orchard to the left of Crowe's barn and some men were working back there at the time of the murders. The men said they saw no one climb over the Borden back fence. Mr. Crowe said nobody had been up on his roof for 2 years. A Mr. McDonnell said the hatchet was his and he had lost it some time ago. One newspaper claims the state had to pay to have it tested with no conclusive results. It had been out in the weather and was rusted. Many believe it may have been the murder weapon. Apparently Abby Borden had flakes of gilt in her wounds which were often found on the blade of new hatchets as a coating.
@ofcv1238
@ofcv1238 6 ай бұрын
Could you share about recent genetic offspring that held propensity for vicious homocide ?
@suespears7322
@suespears7322 Жыл бұрын
I never knew the clothes were buried I thought it was burned in the stove
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts Жыл бұрын
Lizzie burned one of her dresses in the stove. The clothes which were buried and had to be dug up were from the victims.
@wgcds7jyg897
@wgcds7jyg897 Жыл бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts Why would they bury the clothes? They’re evidence.
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts Жыл бұрын
@@wgcds7jyg897 Exactly. The police instructed that the clothing be left untouched in the cellar. Uncle John Morse hired someone to bury them against orders.
@wgcds7jyg897
@wgcds7jyg897 Жыл бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts Thanks. Never knew that. It was such an odd thing to do. Was Uncle John trying to hide something? 🤔
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts Жыл бұрын
@@wgcds7jyg897 I guess we will never know for sure. I believe because there was brain matter and a great deal of blood, maybe he felt it was the decent thing to do.
@grannygrunt5211
@grannygrunt5211 2 жыл бұрын
What were the clothes that were buried in the backyard and who buried them
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle John paid a man to bury all of the clothing behind the barn which was removed from the bodies during the removal of the stomachs and examination of the bodies on the day of the murder. The police had instructed the family not to dispose of anything but as there was brain matter on the clothing, John Morse must have felt compelled to bury the items. They had to be dug up when police came back calling for them.
@grannygrunt5211
@grannygrunt5211 2 жыл бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts thanks for letting me know that I've never heard that before.
@wgcds7jyg897
@wgcds7jyg897 2 жыл бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts Thanks. Always wondered why and exactly where the clothing was buried. Didn’t know it was behind the barn. Always thought in was right in the backyard.
@Ralphie5023
@Ralphie5023 Жыл бұрын
Terrible what those idiots did with this property ! I'm surprised they didn't turn it into a drive through ?
@slacktoryrecords4193
@slacktoryrecords4193 3 ай бұрын
Ghastly what has happened to the backyard as well as the properties across the street. That’s a worse crime than the murders themselves. Really appalling. It makes me want to buy the property and *actually* restore it. And I’m not crazy about that green paint they’ve had on the house for the last several years.
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 ай бұрын
I agree with everything you say. Yes, the green paint is not the correct color and is not holding up well. It is Rhino Coat ceramic paint. Second Street was a lovely residential street in 1892. Urban blight has set in. The city tears down every beautiful building it seems.
@slacktoryrecords4193
@slacktoryrecords4193 3 ай бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts It’s really tragic. Is there just nothing that can be done because the populace is disinterested? I live in NYC; wish I were local. The most I can do is donate to the Fall River Historical Society (which I adore; the city doesn’t deserve them).
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 3 ай бұрын
@@slacktoryrecords4193 Yes, the Historical Society and the Fall River Preservation Society do all that they can and are well worth supporting. At the moment we are hoping someone will come and rescue Lizzie's church which is for sale- a magnificent building on Rock St.
@jprez7295
@jprez7295 2 жыл бұрын
Ok so just reading these comments only confirmed my theory that it was Uncle John Morse that killed Andrew and Abby Borden
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 2 жыл бұрын
He was one of the first suspects to be sure. His alibi seems to have been air tight but even now he is regarded with suspicion.
@jprez7295
@jprez7295 2 жыл бұрын
@@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts I'll go to my grave with the gut feeling that John Morse killed Andrew and Abby Borden .
@barbaraedgley2634
@barbaraedgley2634 8 ай бұрын
If men were working at a house off back yard, how easy to sneak over & back several times, to rob?? Killed to not be exposed. Too many possibilities to just blame Lizzie.
@minelliradney9132
@minelliradney9132 2 жыл бұрын
That was not a meager home...then or now. They had a maid too. So, that daddy gave help. That Lizzie was an old woman.. She should have married by 20...what was she waiting on?Women had 7 or more kids by her age then. The dad can run things the way he liked. Plus, the maid helped Lizzie..l bet she did for sure
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts
@LizzieBordenWarpsandWefts 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently, according to her grammar school principal, Lizzie was not the usual girl mooning over men and looking forward to getting married and having a family. I do believe the maid knew more than she was saying.
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