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it is really weird but i do understand it. Unfortunately sexual harassment isn’t very uncommon. people are used to hearing horrific stories of sexual abuse. I think the reason people are talking about the fat shaming is bc she made her whole brand around body positivity so the hypocrisy of it was extra shocking. I definitely agree that the sexual harassment is wayyyyy more disgusting and deserves more of the focus tho

I think its because Lizzo whole brand is being a plus size women and she embraces that. She is building her legacy on her weight moreso her talent. While she can sing, a lot of the support comes from her not fitting the beauty standards. So when the news broke that she is "fatophoic" it was a slap in the face because she preaches so much about having a safe space for them. The sexual harassment thing didnt really surprise me because Lizzo has an issue of when to be appropriate.

I think it’s because her whole thing is that she stands for anti fat phobia

I blame people not taking women on women sexual harassment seriously.

Its likely cause now they have an excuse to fatshame her now

yes!!!!!!! boosting this

Fr!!!

commenting to boost this ♡♡♡♡

if you can't critique someone's terrible behaviour without insulting them, then you're a bully too! like slam the gross behaviour! we hate that!! disappointed!! shameful! and not cool! but anyone who's spammed her tiktok being fatphobic is doing everything she's accused of...?????

Facts

I think you misunderstood the part about the dancers saying no. The dancers are the employees of Lizzo, and the “performers” are the ones Lizzo is pressuring them to touch. It’s ok tho!! I was a bit confused at first too :) /lh /nm

the nude dancer that lizzo was telling her employees to go touch said No that she didnt want lizzos employees touching her. i think you didnt understand@@allietheotaku

​@@allietheotaku correct and the nude dancer AND the employees both said no. Most nude dancers are "look only". You aren't allowed to touch most of them.

so weird how people keep focusing on the fat shaming part and not the fact that she sexually assaulted her staff

And now she has quit music!

lmfao perfect

Honestly.

Fr

Yep, you can be open with your own sexuality without forcing other people into uncomfortable situations for them and sexually harassing your employees.

i mean would you expect her to confess tho?

so she’s saying if they were more ‘open’ with their sexuality they wouldn’t consider it SA that happened to them and therefore it’s their fault????

yes!! you don’t have to lay hands on someone or catcall them to be a sxual harasser

Adding Stephen Crowder to the mix and nobody can escape that lesson by now, surely?

Yes. There's a whole realm of psychosexual behavior that doesn't necessarily translate to wanting to have sex with, or even touch, the "participants" or "victims", depending on whether those people A. Know exactly what's going on and B. Still consent. If I put you in a video and threw apples at you, I was really excited to do it and you were like ok it's art that's fine but later found out apple throwing was my fetish and I JOed to the video and had been conning people into that situation for years you'd probably feel violated whereas without knowing that or intuiting that, without the context, you'd be fine with the apples. Like how in retrospect Schneider was clearly doing foot fetish videos with tweens and calling it ICarly, and most people incl myself were just like oh it's a wacky kids show they're just being wacky

True!!

Specifically I'm saying that Colleen wasn't necessarily Specifically grooming those fans with the intent of having sexual relationships or contact with them in the future, which is what I think of as the most definitive meaning of Grooming, but that she was still getting off psychosexually by manipulating them, and it was emotional or psychological abuse with a sexual character to it, if not strictly SA in very literal terms. That would come to a legal definition which would vary by state etc. She was definitely creeping with creep intent.

EXACTLY!!! i’m comfortable and open about being lesbian but i WILL NOT go around and sexually harass women? or force them to do something they are not comfortable with, ESPECIALLY sexually.

@@ratdoodles4370 It's truly insane! 🖤

@@indiafox5786 yeah! i can’t believe it honestly.

@@ratdoodles4370 You all have mental issues

So you're bi

fr,

Unfortunately your right

frl I feel like there's only one or two bands that I like haven't been called out for something horrible yet and that's probably just bc they're smaller bands 😭

almost no artist is safe from drama or controversy no matter how good of a person/people they are 😭

Eminem?

Honestly 😭😭 like I would NEVER do ANYTHING to make someone uncomfortable like I am very sexually open with people who tell me it’s okay! I don’t even let it get to the point where they have to tell me they’re uncomfortable because I always ask before I mention something sexual (unless I know they’re comfy with it). Sucks she’s weaponizing sexually open behavior to justify literal harassment 😕

The thing is that the entire thing is alleged

@@leyalaatasto9096 Ahh, don’t get me wrong I never called myself a fan of Lizzo even though I liked her radio songs. I fully agree with this! It’s disgusting what money can do for those who know how to use it

@@Leviachan- oh crap tagged the wrong person sorry! let me edit that real quick

@@ellishines9833 THE THING IS you should reassess the fact you're supporting a potential sexual assaulter instead of potential liars... and NO, they're not the same thing. Even if it does come out the dancers were only doing this for a payout it won't hurt Lizzo at all, she'll just pay and come back and everyone will move on from it.

I KNOW RIGHT? film cooper on top

He’s so cute bruh 😭 I’d give him the world if I could

He’s super cute ong

Hell, im genderfluid, and even coming from me being a man half the time, i still love this dude.. he is a cutie.. i aint even gay lol. I hope he finds himself a nice gal or a guy

​​@@badbreakingbadvideos He has a fiance (unfortunately 😭)

Yeah the hypocrisy is so weird

Projected self hatred, and Internalized fat phobia. That's why her whole PR thing is "I'm an acceptable fat person, I'm vegan and exercise therefore body positivity"- she qualifies* her body positivity vs actual self acceptance or acceptance of others

Fr

Ok

Hurt people hurt people. 🙁

TBH This tells me she's not comfortable with her sexuality because she's forcing others to conform to her idea of what is and isn't okay. Being comfortable in your sexuality is like a man being comfortable with his masculinity,. If someone else not doing exactly what they deem is the correct way and it makes them upset... their confidence and comfortability within themselves is very fragile and basically nonexistent. I'm extremely comfortable in my sexuality and I know someone around 27 who just recently lost her V card. She said she was surprised that when we first met and she was a V I was so chill/didn't make any weird comments like other people have (especially since I'm very sex positive). I told her that's her journey, her sexuality and no one should have anything to say negative about it if she's not purposefully hurting herself or others. It's sad who Lizzo is and I hope she gets therapy/arrested since it seems that all of these allegations have proof.

@@rita8274 your comment does bring to mind the why behind her behavior. I do agree that she clearly is not comfortable in her sexuality if she feels the need to get validation to force others in on the same acts to bring her peace of mind that she is okay for having the sexual behaviors that she does. And It even makes sense as to why it was her dancers and driver that she wanted it from.

I REALLY DESPISE Lizzo. She does not deserve her fame. She also makes REALLY shitty music.

@@paulthomas963that’s not sex positivity then. the whole point is consent and being able to do what YOU want. your old friends weren’t comfortable with their sexuality or sec positive, and lizzo isn’t either

@@paulthomas963 Yep. Happened to me. Exactly that. Got laughed at for leaving for the bathroom to "finish myself" cuz I wasnt comftable at all, but too far gone to not end up with blue balloons. It sucks. I was coerced into it with statements like "You don't think I'm pretty?", "Don't you like boobies in you face?" and "You're so sex positive, isn't it what you want?"... By two people, one thinking he was simply being a good wingman to her... eurrgh...

Thank you, I was a bit worried there..

Yeah I've never had a girl's night like that either

I have *ish* BUT everyone involved was completely on the same page and consenting. Like, that's the difference.

Perfectly said!

Sorry, could you clarify what you mean by moralise health...?

this -

@@falakrafi Like being healthy makes you a good person. And doing unhealthy things makes you a bad, lazy person

Simply not true . In the age of the internet people feel justified in commenting on anyone’s health when it’s in said person’s control . The conversation around cigarettes/vaping, drugs, not going to therapy and obesity is very public . The only unhealthy thing people seem to not have as much of a problem with is drinking .

He’s tryna find the words to describe this girl without being disrespectfullllllll 😂😂

Right and I’ve noticed his comment section seems to mirror him. Pretty cool community here :)

@@CestLaaaVieit’s always a nice and respectful time in the film cooper comment sections :]

Yup, just a big ol' happy wholesome time

Cooper is so wholesome, we need wayyy more guys as mature and good-hearted as he is fr

literally lmao like if they were really in an abusive environment they’re probably scared to say anything negative but also that’s how they make money ? and believe it or not people need money to survive so they’re going to protect their source of income ??

Lol

smartest move ever

He’s learned from watching Ethan from H3 getting in so many lawsuits😂😂

more like doing that so people like u wont dox him

@@skittleyt3099 huh? i dont dox people i was just makin a joke bro

This, this right here! Say it louder for the people in the back.

Or an excuse to eye down, harass, cat call women with your boyfriend 🤮

This, this, THIS☝️

So right, this is disgusting and no one gets a pass including Lizzo. She's just a performer people!!

​@@megansteele2555yes!

That’s it. That’s mainly why it hurts. I’m not obsessed with her but I was very proud her.

I saw a lot of her posts over the years on insta was her twerking, no problem with that... buuut, i saw one post of her doing it in public, on a park, with children around... Well, it seems that she was always inappropriate

Exactly I used to like her but not anymore

Yeah, she totally blew it

Industry plant 😂

as a young person who one day wants kids, this too gives me hope for our future! cooper makes me feel like good men ARE indeed out there :)

Agree 💯

Me too, Dee ❤😊😊😊

@@Jizzysocks omg love your pfp

​@@Jizzysocksa mitski AND a cooper fan?? marry me

You are deserving, never give up.

I agree. I kind of looked up to Lizzo. I’ve struggled with my weight all my life, and I’ve been SA’ed multiple times in my life which contributed to my weight issues. I thought she gave bigger girls a voice and gave them a chance to shine and to look beautiful. To hear that she was doing these kind of things and was hating on larger bodies is so disgusting. It makes you think that there is no one you can actually look up to

Im so sorry both of you had do go through that! (The SA) It’s absolutely disgusting that humans do shit like that

How is this ever ok? No matter your weight or sexuality. I feel so bad for these girls. I hate that people are victim blaming even. I’m sorry what you’ve gone through and what all have experienced. It shouldn’t of happened and it shouldn’t happen. I hate that these women thought they HAD to participate to keep a damn job. A JOB. 😢😢 it’s a damn job. 😢

I agree, her music and body positivity is one of the main things that helped me learn that my weight and body is okay. It is so disappointing to hear this, and most of me is saying “no way she’d do this.” But I saw her response for myself, and it was kind of in line with the way abusive men would respond. It’s pretty upsetting to have one of ur idols do shit like this…

Thank you for sharing your story, I know a lot of us can relate💖

Isn’t she straight?

@@lulaa123 she’s been hinting she’s bi but not labelling it

fr i said this on instgram and some white girl attacked me and started saying the most racist shit to me 💀 (then ofc ig suspended me from commenting for a week bc god forbid i defended myself lmao)

Agreed. Call people out for the things they did wrong. Don't sink to their level by using inexcusable slurs because they are suddenly a convenient target. It cheapens you and it weakens the discussion.

If she's fatphobic then she deserves to be fatshamed, she's not the victim here but if you run around insulting chubby women of color then don't run around crying when people call you a colossal whale who has no room to be saying that crap.

even projection isn’t really an excuse imo. she’s a grown woman, she should know better.

Projection isnt a exuse either. Making people feel bad because you do isnt healthy for you or the victim.

@@ZaF4ran Excuse =/= Explanation. They're different things.

@@LaylaSpellwind yeah I was just pointing out it wasnt an exuse. I might of also misinterpreted your comment when I wrote that reply

​@@ZaF4ranYes. Thank you

I agree

😂

Lol

He does that to not get sued lol

how

Fr 😭

FRR

YEAH FR

A concerning amount of nickels, tbh :(

Former dancer too: I've seen people pass out for way less time than that. 12 hour is totally insane!!!

another thing, many dancers COULD perform 12 hours in a day if they HAD to… but performing is noooothing like auditioning. with being on stage, theres a Huge amount of adrenaline that comes into play and helps you keep ur energy. there are breaks for bathroom and eating. auditions are fast pace, drills, new choreography or timing, its a mind game as much as it is physical. to force your EMPLOYED dancers to audition for 12 hours nonstop is literally torture. its a miracle none of them died. an unknown heart condition, anything. i literally wanted to cry hearing that part again because thats not at ALL how actual auditions work those poor women

You could stand with her, maybe have a private chat.

Not the jOE BIDEN BIT

Same... Same :'(

She's rich. Why can't she just apologize, settle, and do better in the future? She's bring a fucking bully and narcissist

it was a statment not an apology

YES!

Agreed 100%. This was a real slap in the face, never expected something like this from someone whose whole brand was the opposite. Her apology is really something else… I hope the victims get justice.

I believe them too

I’m sorry I’m kinda new to all of this what really is body positivity?

@@alyssahamilton7638 Basically, Body positivity is when people accept that all body types can be beautiful. That's the very basic concept. It's going against the idea that only skinny, curvy, or whatever body type is attractive.

100%

Yep

crumbles.

I know 😭

I am Greek man and I am crying 😭

It's great for them because they never cared about fat people. They made fun of them before, and now they get to make fun of her in a more acceptable light. The excuse that she did the same thing is one they don't even believe, 100%

Yes but while some people are mad at her, others are just laughing at how messed up the whole situation and genuinely do not care. People will act like that on that internet.

I mean I’m not mad at her for fat shaming her staff I’m mad at her for being a hypocrite and sexually assaulting people and putting people into uncomfortable sexual acts or sexual things with each other.

the fat woman is a sexual assaulter, who tf cares if someone is insensitive towards her weight atp

he says them respectfully to little children i guess. such a great video for little kids to listen too. he literally said 4 mins in that he doesnt want this video age restricted WHY THE F NOT? i liked this dudes content until i caught that sickening to look for views from children on such topics

​@@petejones6827 Because some people who don't have KZfaq accounts watch his videos. You have to have an 18+ account to watch age restricted content. I'm 17 and I'd be blocked from it, does that make sense? His content has never been for kids, and he's said that.

@@petejones6827it’s not to be kid friendly… If KZfaq videos have too much “profanity” they get age restricted and you can’t really run ads (which generates revenue).

@@reverie8223 thats literally the point i made he is more concerned about lining his pockets than properly labeling his videos. its adult content dont label it in a way to get around the fact its adult content just to make more money. thats immoral

@@_JustJoe yes that makes 100% perfect sense YOU ARE NOT AN ADULT just because you are close doesnt mean he should make his videos available to 5 year old's just so you can see it and he can line his pockets. you dont even have morals yet you are too young to even understand the point of this conversation as you cant see past your own personal reasoning. you are blinded by self interest as is this dude

Yeah I feel really bad for those security guards - how humiliating must have been? It doesn't sound like she touched anyone physically but created a horrible traumatising work environment. I'm so glad I'm not talented enough to go into the entertainment industry. The things people allow because they don't want to lose their career is heartbreaking

It surprised me that Lizzo would have done any of that stuff. Especially SA! And fat shaming is incredibly hypocritical. I feel like there must have been a time where she was self conscious of her weight too.

Might not mean much from a stranger on the internet, but you’re enough and your weight doesn’t define you

Absolutely! You are always deserving of love, no matter the weight ❤️

You can always go to the gym and go for walks though

❤❤❤

It’s true that being worthy of love shouldn’t be tied to how healthy you are, but at the same time I don’t think we as a society should act like it’s completely fine for someone to eat unhealthy and not take care of their health. Although I understand that sometimes people eat unhealthy because of mental health issues, socioeconomic factors, etc. but yeah, it’s a tricky situation, fatshaming / body-shaming is horrible but we should be careful not to accidentally normalise unhealthy behaviours.

Exactly

@@Jizzysocks yeah no no no i was just making a general statement not in reference to anything he said🫶

Agreed

@@songbirdrosaI think the point they were trying to make was about people using the fact that Lizzo is a bad person as an excuse to fat shame her and make fun of her body. And about how just because someone might be a bad person, that doesn't give anyone an excuse to body shame them.

@@songbirdrosaI think they meant fatphobic comments not just pointing out the fact she’s the same weight as the people she shamed

It doesn't "trigger" you it upsets you. Stop using words with real clinical meanings for this shit. I swear its the new "i'm so OCD lollll"

​@silkandstones5964 why would someone go with their boss to a bar after work-- because the boss asked them to and there is a power-differential. Some people always say yes to a boss's requests because they worry if they don't say yes to requests and keep them happy, they might be fired. And people need their jobs to pay for everything they need to survive. Some people have eating disorders or other body issues, maybe trauma growing up we don't know about,... where they might feel triggered by seeing other people get body shamed and judged 🤷🏽‍♀️ just because it doesn't trigger trauma in you doesn't mean it won't for other people.

​​@@tylociraptor8131as someone who has had an eating disorder, this is actually triggering. Many people misuse this word but it is actually correctly used in this scenario. No offense

@@nicetomeetyou701 no, it isn't. Not for her. If you experience an actual trigger based on your eating disorder, fine, but her being sad about her fave fatty being a POS isn't "triggering".

​@@tylociraptor8131you have literally no right to decide what other people find triggering or not- nor how they express it online. Your words may be aimed at someone you find invalidating your experience, but your comment sends a message to others that to be open about their triggers is to be labelled as a liar.

That and it's a lie for most. You can't be 100 pounds overweight and healthy, and if you are, it won't last. It's only because you are young. She's encouraging thousands of (mostly) young women into a "lifestyle" that will end in their forties or fifties with diabetes and heart disease.

Right?? And also the way we say that someone just being fat and existing is “promoting an unhealthy lifestyle” but no one is hounding ‘fit’looking celebs if they go have a burger or fries, if anything they’re praised for being ‘real’ 😒😒 Like unless someone is a nutritionist or dietitian or health professional or some sort it’s not their responsibility to “promote” any sort of lifestyle. Just let people live, they aren’t less worthy of respect or privacy or peace because they don’t look a certain way

This comment broke my heart, it's so true like for example I'm overweight but not too much, and tbh, Idc, I'm happy for who I am, but there's ppl who might be like "you should probs go exercising!" Or "you should eat healthier" it's sad also for ppl who can't lose weight, it's like a never ending loop of some ppl just telling u disgusting stuff like that, like you ain't telling me what I should do be cause in your opinion it's better for me, we all do decisions for our own! Although ofc if you agree with the person, but if they just straight up tell u that constantly, we have a problem ❤🙏🥺

IMO the only people who should be commenting on body weight are doctors yk? That’s how I feel about fatphobia lol

@@yeetyeet1655 it's not fat phobic for your doctor to tell you they suggest loosing weight for your health benefit

@@WhereAmIAndWhy yea exactly

The issue with doctors is the medical field is full of fat phobia; and instead of weeding it out, they ignore it and get offended when challenged. When doctors focus on weight alone as the (false) cause of issues, there’s a problem. It’s sort of similar to how a few decades ago, any woman who didn’t act how men thought they should, faced being committed for “hysteria”. Or how they used to sell being gay was a mental illness.

@@SaucyMuffins I understand that, some doctors use it as an excuse to ignore the actual problem, my mum has to do deal with it a lot rn. But, when doctors are saying weight gain can cause these things and that someone's breathing/heart problems are because of their weight, that's the problem

thank u for saying that honestly, it makes me feel so happy

no it’s doesn’t

@@angel_crust-hit doesn’t make you as bad but it still is rude

Yeah, heard a bachelor party story from a friend where they were pressured into getting lap dances. Upsetting for everyone involved. Groom specifically said he didn't want any of that, and also had previously told his fiance that none of that would be going on. Too bad his friends are gross, I guess. I think it's vile that Lizzo would do something like this. She's human and we've all messed up, of course, but this is a little more messed up than I would have thought. I'm really disappointed and disgusted.

I feel like I can imagine her pretending like they were her friends. Because with your friends a little bit of peer pressure can be fine (but only when you know your friends very well and respect no). But in an employer/employee relationship even a "I'm not sure" "Come on - try it" has so much more power and pressure. I wouldn't get drunk with employees at all because I don't think under influence I would be able to ensure I acted responsibly at all times

if people are acting that way, are they really body positive though? no they aren’t. they’re compensating for their insecurity and projecting it. as a body neutral person myself, the modern body positivity movement has lost its plot. everyone should be minding business about their body. if people are concerned abojt other peoples bodies like that, they’re not body positive. body positivity is about having self autonomy and can have their own opinions. body positivity isn’t necessarily bad. white necessary in social progress for disabled people and fat people and women of colour (the people it was made for originally). but modern day self centring and whataboutmeism. it’s selfish. not body positivity

Breathing is second to saying allllllllllllllll your thoughts before your brain decides to get distracted by shiny and you lose what you were even saying-

fr its horrible

Seriously

It's absolutely gonna get brushed under the rug in about a month and that fills me with so much rage

Celebrities need to stop getting away with things they’re famous but not above the law

@@Sqooshyfroogthey have money that’s how they get away with it

Same agree 💯

Internalized fatphobia, it gotta be that. Edit: typo

I'm hoping her body positivity thing wasn't a facade

(obviously will never excuse her actions but) The cycle of bullying be real 😬

This sounds like you finally having the excuse to be fatphobic lol what she did is horrible but that doesn’t negate the amount of hate she gets for being a fat black women…

seriously

Sadder when someone says someone else “isn’t responsible” for dating a racist and “can’t be held responsible for a man’s actions” but then takes this stance on a black woman. I’m not defending Lizzo, but I am saying keep the same energy for all wrongdoings Edit: I’m not saying let’s cancel Cooper, just that as a black woman, this is really disappointing to see, especially since I usually really like and agree with his takes on things.

Exactly

@@krmickey9764I was looking for someone to point this out better than I can. This is why people are so critical of Taylor Swift.

Thank you for this comment! I have adhd and I also lost speech for a bit when I was in preschool due to inflamed tonsils that I had removed. I stutter from time to time whether it be from my brain moving too fast or my speech or both. I feel a little less dumb now 💕❤️

As someone who stutters and hates it whenever I do, thank you :)

I know I'm not cooper but wow you're so nice! I'll use this type of positivity towards my peers

I have stuttered since I was 10 years old, it's mild to severe. I learned early on that I was less than others because of my stuttering. kids bullied me relentlessly (though my stuttering wasn't the only reason they hated me, I also had undiagnosed autism and severe OCD) and constantly mocked me when I had to speak in class. Even though my one friend tried to tell them to stop and said that I can't help it, they didn't really care. But I'm still grateful for her for standing up for me. I still feel extremely embarrassed when I stutter, and in a situation with a person I do not know or know only a little, I try to answer with only one word replies. The fear that someone will mock me or laugh at me is still there, even at the age of 36. (Sorry for any possible Spelling errors, English isn't my mother language)

It makes alot of sense to be supportive and make the client feel safe as I know stress/anxiety can often make the stutter worse so if they feel more comfortable they won't stutter as much from the anxiety.

IK I SAW IT :(

i was looking for someone else who noticed. anyone know what the trident represents?? we see you cooper

Yeah agree this is what I get for liking singers I'm never doing that again

@@TeenageDirtbag8honestly. At this point the safest bet is to assume the worst 😭

@@Prettyp1999 tbh atp I just don't like the singers most of the time anymore I just try to listen to music

@@Prettyp1999 agree 100

We are not feeling good as hell about this

It’s all lies they made up

You looked up to her just because of her size she was very evidently quite narcissistic and delusional and yet you looked up to this person there are a walking talking caricature and proof of the clown world we live in and you looked up to this person... I hope from now on when you try to look up to someone you base it on their character their lifestyle a lot of important things not their level of celebrity and not their waist size because neither one of those things make you a good person and clearly all you see is what people look like so take a little bit deeper

@@eyetrollin710ah have some empathy. if someone gets a lot of insults for a certain trait and sees someone confident with that certain trait, of course they might feel good about that person and have blindspots about their flaws.

​@@drybones75 Their username is literally I'm trolling. They don't really believe what they say. Chaos is all they desire.

@@VforVendettasi getcha, but i don’t really think they caused any chaos here

Exactly same I used to like her but not now

I had a family member fat-shame Lizzo a few years ago when that family member is roughly around the same weight. I stuck up for Lizzo and was literally pissed that they made a comment like that. They were talking about Lizzo on the television. The family member basically was asking who she was and if she was like Nicki Minaj and Cardi B but they called her a fat pig while doing so. I literally went on social media and vented about it because I was so pissed. I think I mentioned it on Twitter and @ tagged Lizzo. I didn't say exactly what they said. If I remember correctly I think I just said someone insulted you and it made me mad so I defended you. Don't let others insult you. Something to that effect. So if this is proven true, it is utterly disappointing.