Thank you so much.

@@GuylainPrince ♥️ much love and respect to you, thank you for being so honest and open, and for sharing with us your wonderful content

Amen to that!

You are right on target, from my point of view. You will really appreciate my [ANALYSE] of the song. I try to open the question to as : "Are there New Gods today, with people acting like this elsewhere?" I think there are. Let's be aware of that and be ready to fight our way out of a robot kind of life.

@@GuylainPrince This song criticize raising fundamentalism in our world. We take things too seriously and do not understand different point of views. People choosing different tribes and acting like the tribe is some kind of god which you need to follow. People are gathering to different ideological tribes and doesnt even try to understand other points of views.

@@GuylainPrince Agreed, I am also an atheist (raised in an extremely Conservative Christian environment) and I personally didn't see this song as a condemnation of faith and belief itself. I absolutely got the impression of tribal attitudes of people and how toxic it is. Whether that be religious, political, ideological.. celebrity fan-bases, lifestyle, literally anything under the sun. People can make many things their gods that don't include a deity or religion. Even though I had a very bad experience with religion and would have been so much better off and not still broken from it had I not been raised with religion, I do not hold it against people and their chosen faiths. It is the way religions have been used as weapons and excuses to harm and forcibly control people. I think a much greater insult to a Christian god than the expression of frustration with how people have polluted it are those who claim to do things in his name and then abuse that power. And I feel like sometimes because they do it in disguise, they are able to continue to do so unchallenged, and that is something I do find really frustrating about religion. How horrible things can be happening in the open and nobody willing to do anything about it. I would feel less angry if I thought that religions were doing enough to regulate their own people. I personally believe that whatever people find in their lives that gives them purpose and drive to better themselves and the world around them is the thing that matters. I think there are many ways to the top of the mountain of enlightenment, and I know many people who do not believe in any god or practice religion who live more like the example given by Jesus in the bible than I would say the majority of Christians that I know. However, the harm done to people and the lives broken by the tribalism of humanity is a very real and overwhelmingly valid reason to turn away from organized religion. I know that as a religious leader, you are very aware of how messed up things have become with some religions and the things that are happening, and Nightwish are just like any other humans who have their reasons for the way they feel. I think the most important thing about the band is the overarching message they have over everything else they believe and think, and how they want to make the world a better place and ease suffering and find purpose and inspiration for those of us who choose not to follow religion. Their approach speaks to us without the things that drove us away, but they still lead us in the same direction.

@@GuylainPrince Also I love your reactions and your insight into music, you are an absolute treasure. I'm sorry this song came to you at such a difficult time. =( Love from Edmonton.

Dear Guylain, first my condolances for your loss and i hope your family member will pull through. Then @evil peter, i see the same nuance and in my opinion the use of Abraham as reference is the key Regards, Fenna

I was just going to tell you about that! I knew you would be happy to hear it... and it looks like you could use some happy words right now.

@@AGDinCA NOBODY, EVER quote Jeff Porcaro in my surrounding. I am all by myself. I recorded my tribute to Kai Saturday morning. And I had no clue at all that his interview would published few hours later (Canadian time). Mouth open, here. Completely !

You made Jeff Porcaro a bit more known like Tuomas did with Eugene Shoemaker

I was going to say precisely the same thing, I had happened to see the interview with Kai, then went outside to work on landscaping for several hours. Once I had finished up the day's work, came indoors and freshened up, I sat and watched this video. Imagine my surprise when universes collided like this! Guylain hit the nail on the head perfectly, I'm positive that Kai would appreciate your commentary!

@@corneliusantonius3108 In all fairness, Eugene Shoemaker is quite well known within large parts of academia. 😊👍

Well, all of what you just wrote is news to me. I knew nothing of this. In fact, used to very powerful Metal rock, I am not easily impressed. But this one was for me unexpected and it took me in a bad moment. That is all. Normally, I have very thick shielding with metal. That day, I had none. It happens sometimes.

This one beer talk just been raised to two, or even three! You will love my [ANALYSE]. It is recorded already. I would have loved to add some of your thoughts.

I love this. It hits the nail on the head (many times, we sadly do not deserve a pat).

Well said! :)

Well, don't be sorry. I have a tough skin in normal conditions. Those were exceptional ones. You will enjoy the ANALYSE, I am pretty sure. A bit on the long side, but I thought I would make something different for this one. Tell me if it pays of.

@@GuylainPrince Happy to find you again in high spirit :) I just can't wait your [analysis]. Rock on!

J'ai déjà enregistré les réactions à Tribal et Endlessness, et j'ai terminé aussi l'analyse de Tribal. Il me reste à ajouter les sous-titres. L'analyse de Endlessness sera filmée en vers la fin de la semaine.

I remember you. Well, you are up for two big treats, my friend. First, my [ANALYSE] of this song. You will love it. I am almost finished with my final [REVIEW| of the album. You will love it !

Thank you for this excellent comment, Timo! As a Christian myself, it is encouraging to better understand Tuomas's position on how he views 'organized religion' as I did see his and Troy's recent statement about being, 'openly secular.' I never thought him to be anti-religious, but rather more neutral. Your comment makes me think that I was not so far from the mark! Cheers....and stay healthy!

Much appreciated, Brian !

Well, that was me, that very night I listened to this song for the first time. And there will be me, one week later, taking the time to understand the song. Tell me if you like my ANALYSE,. Ok?

Well, I have recorded my reaction to both. My [ANALYSE] of Tribal is done. Endlessness still to go.

@@GuylainPrince aye i m specialy interested see your take on endlessness that to me is the magnum opus of this album, so... profound and more interesting to me because i believe firmly that in this case its not just human or nature but the pun meaning human nature as it has to do with how we as humans perceive time

Well... you are not far from the truth. I have not done the close reading of Endlessness yet, but it seems to aim in that direction.

@@GuylainPrince First, I'm so sorry for your loss. Deeply sorry. I'm a brazilian fan of yours, and week after week, wait to watch your reactions and analysis. I can write and read a lot of things in english, but I really need your analysis videos (which youtube translates to Portuguese) to really comprehend the meaning of theses songs. When I wrote the comment , didn't know nothing of what this song was really about. Now, after watching the reaction, felt like I needed to give you some explanation about my comment. Take care, I'm sorry, and thank you, again, for your amazing analysis.

Well, this one caught me off guard. I reacted emotionnaly, being already at the edge. Today, I appreciate the song even if, because of the topic, it is not one of my favorites. Instrumentaly, it is a great song.

Thanks ! Encouraging comment in present situation. Peace!

Peace to you, and thanks! Well, actually, I am out for words all along this album. Never heard anything like this. Never. And Kai is a big part of this.

@@GuylainPrince it's Art. One of Tuomas' masterpieces. A true Genius

You are right. It was just a bad moment to open it up. I had such high hopes for an exceptional album. I had it in the face without shielding. It happens some time.

Thanks for the hug. And my [ANALYSE] is a very different style. Very. I decided to have fun with it, instead of being too serious. And it worked! Doing the subs on my day off, as we speak. It will be out Wednesday or Thursday.

@@GuylainPrince thnx! If wednesday sadly cannot join live, thursday is another matter! But i will rewatch it, if necessary 😎 ...

ha ha ha ! No. Be completely reassured. Like I said in my ANALYSE, I don't like ont paragraph on the whole album. That is 96% of the record that I I truly enjoyed. this score is the highest makr ever given by me for a metal band. Ever. So, I will get over it !

Thanks. I was SO taken off guard with this one.

@@GuylainPrince I can imagine. Sometimes we non-believers can be a bit ...harsh. Especially if we used to be religious. Still, I would like to think that everyone watching your videos is a mature person that can handle disagreement, especially when coming from an honest heart. I'll say this. If your videos are any indication, you're the type of clergyman I always respected. The sort that brought many people to religion in the first place.

@@StergiosMekras Amen.

The general picture we have from this song is this: these leaders are are narcissist ones, then using religion to tame their flock. I can understand the reproach to religion from a historical point of view, but if that makes us unaware of those doing that TODAY, with modern-day religion (power, money, ego), then, the lesson from the past is lost. People behave like this everywhere.

Aureation is the rhetoric tool of gilding (making gold) your language. This is done by introducing words and terms from other languages to make it sound more important or prestigious. These languages are called aureate tongues and refer to Latin and Greek most commonly but can be any language in essence that we assign some value to. So the bible is translated from aureate tongues (OT from Hebrew and NT from Greek). This aureation is also attributed to religious preaching styles in the 15th and 16th century (the same era that the bible was translated to English incidentally, because for a thousand years common people were not allowed to read the bible but should just accept what clergy told them about it). I therefore see the aureate tongue as a representation of books like the bible. Sucking I believe to refer to a baby sucking the teat of its mother. The reason I believe that is because Tuomas revisits terms and language that he busies and Weak Fantasy has this reference to "sucking dry the teat of the scared". So to me 'sucking the aureate tongue" means then that religion tells people to accept their aureate language (holy book) as a baby would accept mother's milk, without question in other words. This interpretation is also strengthened by the phrase "Mother's milk laced with poison for this newborn" in Weak Fantasy. And I remind you also of the phrase "every child is worthy of a better tale". People can sugarcoat it all they want, but the criticism in this song is scathing and much broader than people may like. Now you will never hear Nightwish (or me for that matter) say that you must follow their views and they present these things as their personal views as well. So they respect that people are free to believe, but they also believe in the right to disagree with those beliefs and give arguments against them. Let that be clear, but if you read interviews with Marko for example his views are crystal clear. I will quote a part of an interview: "Well if some people are turned off by the scientific or evolutionary side of these things, I have no pity for them. To my personal opinion, these people blind themselves to things that are way more real than a 2000 years old book that has been translated to serve purposes of organizations that want to take money from poor people." (source: metalchestofwonders.com/en/interview/marco-hietala-nightwish-2015-02-09 ) . I would say that it leaves for little interpretation, but do note that he clearly states it's his personal opinion. Now you speak of a good message that christianity is based on. There is no such good message unless you cherry pick the parts you like. You show me a good message from the bible and I'll show you a bad message from the bible. I think this song is incredibly damning towards religion and christianity in particular and with good reason. I do feel for Guylain here because he genuinely seems to be a kind and generous person, and it cannot be easy to be confronted with such strong criticism, but I rather hope he can take the criticism and think about it, rather than deflecting it or downplaying it in the sense of "it's not me but others they're talking about". It is about religion but christianity in particular. The references to the bile cannot be denied and well it makes sense because it is the part of the Abrahamic faiths that influenced our western world. I mean, I would wish it was about that good message. But if it is, then why hang on to the bad? I think that Nightwish have this as well in their themes: religion is holding its own evolution back by hanging onto an indefensible past. Why hold on to such books that contain such cruelty, just because some parts of it were nice? Why not leave the old worldview and morals behind that no longer fit today. I think even Catholics would agree that their church today is not the same as a thousand years ago. They don't seem to have an Inquisition torturing and murdering people for having different beliefs today. There are no crusades today as far as I can tell to send military forces to take Jerusalem and destroy muslims for reasons of faith. So if their religion can evolve, then why hold on to writings that contradict your current beliefs and predate those positive changes that have been made? Why claim the bible is the truth and divine when it's full of slavery, misogyny, genocide and other such things that were perfectly fine with god then? Why not accept that it makes more sense that it was written by men and reflects the views of their times rather than being a divine rule book for everyone and always? Especially when you've changed your own views already? I hear plenty of christians speak out against polygamy, slavery and genocide for example. So why hang on to a book that is fine wit that? I mean, nowadays christians seem to be big fans of democracy. Not really the same as a divine (hopefully benevolent) monarchy. It's all very confusing really.

Merci, Sarah. En fait, si tu continue ton parcours, j'en dis encore quelque chose, de plus nuancé, dans l'analyse de la chanson et dans l'analyse d' Endlessness. Elle a du sens, malgré tout. Notre expérience des églises chrétiennes est très différente de la sienne. Alors, son jugement est plus dur, direct. Va voir ça, on s'en reparle.

@@GuylainPrince Oh que oui que je continue! Ça a juste été tellement impressionnant pour moi de constater que j'arrive à saisir l'émotion sous-jacente sans avoir nécessairement lu les paroles! Je me rendrai au bout, coûte que coûte 😄! J'ai bien hâte de voir comment tu as fait ta métanoïa!

J'ai longtemps hésiter à la publier (5-6 jours). Puis samedi dernier, j'ai enregistré mon hommage à Kai, il était 10 heures du matin, je crois. Et à 18 heures, mon [ANALYSE]. J'ai eu beaucoup de plaisir à la faire. Tu vas l'apprécier. Bien à toi. GP.

Totally agree. I will make a point, in my analysis, that the sectarian and dictatorial state of mind has to be fought everywhere. In focusing on religion, here, we miss the point that it exists in other fields of society.

@@GuylainPrince I don't think they were confining it to religion. It is clear to me that it is applicable to political movements, social media etc.

Thanks. Imagine that : my uncle died as I was recording the first part, Saturday morning. As soon as I receive access codes to my new software, I will be able to publish in 2 hours. Everything is ready.

Thanks. Probably in two days.

Ha ha ha ! Did you have a peak at my [ANALYSE] vid? I am writing the subtitles as we speak. I think you will be vey pleased with this one. Thanks for the comment.

@@GuylainPrince Well yes, I have a confession to make, I was part of the 'we' singing procession. Timetravel is a marvelous thing, 'We should have never appeared.' (oops) :D

Agreed!

You'll love my [ANALYSE], Big G! Love your reaction, as always.

Ha ha ha ! Well, this time, it might not be the case. After the beautiful tribute to Kai, at the beginning, I let you see me watch "Tribal" and my initial reaction was not very good. Well, you might just have a good laugh at my face in disbelief!!! Anyway, you will love the analysis, next Thursday. I had a lot of fun shooting it.

Well its actually less related to the music but your emphatic reactions and, of course, your voice.

We have a say in French : Absolute power triggers absolute corruption. "À pouvoir absolu, corruption absolue." Of this, our human history and past religions have not been able to be exceptions. Well, we are rowing in the same direction

That is exactly my point of view and my task. And I think that you will appreciate my effort to read it as objectively as possible. But after, I make my own manifest of what this song could have been. But, hey!, it is only the opinion of a metalhead friar, all by himself, in a small city of Canada.

Sadly, I have watched everything of Best Zangers last fall, before beginning this series. I would not be a real [REACTION] video. I would have looked so silly since I admire so much Floor.

@@GuylainPrince Floor just released something new...

Un fan de Gaspésie ! Tu m'dis pas ? Je suis tellement content. Cher ami, si tu savais comme j'aime ton chez-toi ! J'ai ma cousine à Gaspé, et de très grands amis à Cap-Chat. J'y pass mes vacances à tous les deux ans. Je te salue avec la plus grande amitié et chaleur. Au plaisir !

@@GuylainPrince THEOCRACY has to enter our dialogue sometime on the horizon... thought about it numerous times. After EPICA and NIGHTWISH historical reactions, there might be the open space. THEOCRACY is the intelligent answer to much nihilism out there.

WOW ! Che messaggio confortante. Non avrei mai pensato che Toto sarebbe stato ricordato così. Qui, sono l'unico a ricordarlo ancora. Immaginate che Kai abbia detto su internet di aver fatto un omaggio a Toto in Harvest. Se l'avessi saputo, ha ha ha ha!

I Toto sono come un All Star Team della musica... Ma la grande differenza è che loro hanno un grande concetto di squadra. Il talento individuale pazzesco al servizio del gruppo. PS Ho ascoltato l'intervista fatta a Kai. Il tributo fatto ai Toto è in particolare legata alla canzone ' I will remember '. PPS sulla pagina Facebook di Kai circa 2 mesi fa ha inquadrato il suo televisore mentre stava guardando un concerto dei RUSH e dove lodava le qualità del ' professore '. Tutto torna !!

I did. At the wrong time. I got over it.

@@GuylainPrince Glad to hear that; I was worried about your reaction, not knowing precisely why you were out off balance. I hope your analyze will clear this. Wish you a good time despite your losses. Love your video's very much.

Especially because of confinement, we can't be with them. Yesterday, it was my uncle who passed away. Yup, we live those times...

Dear friend, thank you for your kind words. My analysis will come out very soon. And I think that you will like it.

Don't worry. I took it with a laugh few days later. It just took me off guard. I was not in the mood for that. That is all, and should not be understood to be more than that. Peace, from Canada.

Guylain Prince 👍

In Canada, I have spoken publicly about wrongdoings of some people and how we make things clear. I don't excuse the inexcusable. Now, let's not make the same mistake with modern day religions, new gods. See you at my [ANALYSE]. Peace!

Well, you got my point, as if you knew my analysis. This is exactly what I said. I still hope that the song did not focus on religion alone, but on all those power-driven leaders - also in politics and economics - wishing us all to be sheep.

​@@GuylainPrince My view is in short this: All religions are being misused, for many eons it has been repressive an what defined state and nationalities. It was a time where you where born would determine how you viewed your world and the religious choice was made for you instead you can choose it or find it yourself. Sadly this is still the case in certain religious regions or even certain religious groups like islam; born in a islamic household means you either become a Moslim or you are outcast. In my opinion God along with the religious indoctrination is long time replaced with not just freedom of choise (considered good) but with an even more evil thing like materialisme, greed, corruption and monetary rat race. Capitalism for me is as evil and contra-productive as forced religion. Note that for me Faith and Religion is not the same. So I believe they are critisizing that all and they don't attack religion by itself. Me myself up untill today still has a love/hate relation with religion but being a so called atheist that would never marry or marry a religious person.. more than 20 years later here I am married to an African woman and since 99% of them is religious... Life, the vast cosmos or god(s) purpose, existence and scheme will remain for many eons still a mistery for most humans...

@@GuylainPrince Toumas has nothing against religion. He has stated in interviews he simply hasn't witnessed or observed anything in his life that has "proven" its reality. These songs like has already been stated clashes with people using religion for evil purposes. And let's face it religion has been and still is in some parts of the world the tool for massive amounts of evil regardless of faith. Not being religious doesn't mean you can't have incredible good human faith towards others which is what I feel from them listening to interviews etc. I have highly enjoyed your reactions...some of the best I have watched.

Yup! Well, I reacted badly because I was in a bad situation. So much good things have been told to me of this song. I expected the "summit" of the album, from a drummer's perspective. On that, I was not disappointed. On the lyrics, it was the first time that I understood at first reading the whole vocabulary. This being said, immediately in the analysis of the song, I was able to put that aside, and I really tried to understand the song. And in my final account, I was completely able to give "meaning" to the song within the context of the album. So, to me, everything falls into place, even if I would have like a song that is a bit longer, with other "tribal itches", based on politics, economics... To me, the actual "golden tongues" and narcissistic leaders are to be found in other fields of the human life. And that is a shame that they live without being denounced!

Thanks for the comments and encouragement ! Peace.

Well, just to let you know that I love a good beer (non-alcoholic, because I am diabetic), and that the Finninsh people are most welcomed in Montréal. Some hockey players paved the road for you ! :-)

Ohhhh, another fan of Rush ! do you know that I will make a series of 10 songs of Rush in the fall? That will be great. Not only Peart is a great drummer, he is the lyricist of Rush. As for the inteerview with Kai, I know nothing. Nobody in my surronding remember Jeff Porcaro. I did not know that Kai made a tribut to him. I recorded my tribute to him BEFORE it was published. I am SOOO please that Kai remembered him. He died so young.

@@GuylainPrince Here is the interview I listened to: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZiXpbRir9jGeHk.html And worlds best compilition of Rush-intros: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j7mEoq6Ux73eYZ8.html BTW Tribal is not high on my list for this album. 1 Procession, 2 Pan, 3 Harvest/Shoemaker, 4 Endlessness....

@@GuylainPrince It just hit me; Alex is the "Emppu" of Rush.

Well, that is a first-class comment.

@@GuylainPrince The thought that is circling my head since I first heard this song is that the music and the visuals are part of the story told. Floor sings in a nice tone, talking about stories, and as soon as Human decides to "preach", the tone changes. Marko steps in, the music becomes warlike, accusatory, tribal. And then the tribal drums with the countless dead humans dancing to their beat. In the end, Floors music returns, rising out of the dead. I feel as if the song leaves me with the question, "will you join the tribal drums, or the music and the stories?" It feels as if the song is both accusatory of the tribalism and at the same time hopeful that stories, music, can rise above it.

Did you watch me recording my [ANALYSE]. No? Really? Well, you will have a big surprise there !

@@GuylainPrince I look forward to it! I'm glad it sounds more positive than I expected and I hope you are doing ok.

Well, than, we agree. It is one of the best songs of the album, and it is hard to find a weak spot.

I will present the idea that Tribal should have been about past religion and new religion, that dominators are everywhere. Focusing on religion only will make us unaware that modern day "priests" are doing the exact same things in the fields of politics and economics.

@@GuylainPrince There is no "should". The composer should never acquiesce to outside forces. They are free to write as they see fit. By the same token, we are free to question or interpret their work. I would hate it if a composer's vision was limited to what is "Approved" - either by Church or State.

Great invitation. That is why I decided to react in my mother tongue as well. When it comes to music, I came as a "very generous public". I simply surrender myself to the artist. That is why I naturally react so much while I listen to music. If I try to "control myself", or to speak in 'international French" or in English, I loose that part of spontaneity. Here, the song hits me like a truck. Normally, when I know that a content like this one is part of the song, I have some kind of shielding. I did not in this very case because I reached out to music in a time of sorrow. It was not the song to listen from NW in my situation. Plain and simple.

I respect that you took the time to respond back in such detail. Especially since my comment was so short, but well meaning. I'm in Toronto and I feel a connection to your intelligence and wisdom. They way you break down lyrics and offer hysorical context. I feel your passion towards nightwishs music and I must say I feel the same way. I knew tribal would be an issue for you and I've been waiting to see how you would handle it. I like the song musically and vocally but I'm still bothered by the text. I knew you would be as well, I wanted to see how you would handle it, analyze it and come to terms with it. There are a couple words in the song that give me hope and shift the meaning. Man found Gods. This is interesting and I can interpret it to deities, ancient and modern. Also to be tribal with hive minds seems something very current politicaly in America these days. On to you Analysis.... It wasn't up last night. I hope it will be up soon. We need to get through this and Covid then I will see you for a coffee. The world's best coffee.

Well, I just listen to "Sons of Winther". I haven't check the lyrics yet but I have to admit that this Death metal band is much more appealing to me than the ones I have seen here in Canada. Great musicians, greats singers (in fact they can really sing and not only growl, and that is a plus). I can recognize a Yamaha or a Tama sound, a bit less a Pearl sound. First time I hear one in a very steady hitter/double-bass kind of rhythm. I prefer Kai's actual sound, a bid dryer and better all-round harmonics. His drumming is impressive. Very. The whole song sounded great to me. So, thanks !

Peace to you Florian. My dear uncle died yesterday. One full week, 4 deaths... And they were not as close as your father was to you. Music is a great healer. This, I learned from directing Gospel Choirs for 15 years. If it means something to you, prayers from Canada.

​@@GuylainPrince My dad passed at 91 and 'faded' slowly over last few months. So we had time to prepare. My brothers spend a lot of time with him when he needed it the most and had the chance to say good bye. I am thankful for that. Having your loved ones ripped away without preparation must be a lot harder. I feel with you.

I will explain why I think this is a "faux-pas", and come back to me if you think that my [ANALYSE] makes sense to you, or not.

Come back for my analysis. You will have fun. Promised!

@@GuylainPrince Absolutely, I was just looking at your other NW reactions today and I liked it.

Agreed. I will do a 10 video series on Rush. Each of these musicians are exceptional.

The song is a charge against monotheism that separates us, as human and as a collective. It is frank, powerful, beautifully written and right in my face. So, I could not miss it. Impossible. You will enjoy the [ANALYSE] because the words are quite strong. Like I said in my next video, I think NW missed the target this time. Because there are modern day gods and idols far more dangerous in today's world, and we let them go away.

De fait, ce chant est "mal tombé"; il est arrivé à un mauvais moment de ma vie. Continuez l'itinéraire et vous verrez: j'y trouve du sens un peu plus loin, même si ma réaction initiale était négative.

Ah? Interesting to know.

FYI: The singer (Floor) is Dutch, not Danish.

@@braindump1446 oops, sorry. Corrected that mistake.

Wrong? I would not say wrong. A "faux-pas" is making a mistake on the dance floor, while enjoying the whole dance. I presently write my subtitles in between a lot of other things, I can't go fast. By "faux-pas" I mean : this album is gorgeous from all sides, to me : lyrics, music, musical accomplishment. And again to me, it was a new discourse, a XXIst century stance, appreciating everything from a very large perspective. Sciences, biology, astrophysics, engineering, music, literature, everything is large and inclusive... except religion. Specifically monotheism. There, the author presents a song that I would consider in itself very "tribal". Nuances and fineess are everywhere on this album, everywhere but here.

@@GuylainPrince Ah, I see. The language barrier. Here in Germany, we also have the word faux-pas, but it really is nothing more than a more elaborate, more elitist synonym for mistake, error, going/doing wrong.

In fact, there words were : you'll turn insane. I thought it was for the drummer's performance only. Well, they are laughing at me, right now! I will put hot pepper sauce in the next beer we will take together.

Real choir on the B side. And, maybe in Shoemaker. The rest is the trio, but sometimes, Floor is recorded 3 times, where the singing is too difficult. And it is normal. I did the same thing on some recordings.

@@GuylainPrince Yes, the B side is with full choir and orchestra. I was talking about the A-side, sorry for being unclear.

Excellent insights, dear Mantai. Don't worry to much. It was just bad timing. I'm fine. Bu I prepared an answer to NW. Be back for it !

Tu connais aussi Caron? Tu l'as dit : chacun est un maître dans son domaine.

@@GuylainPrince Oui, j'ai eu la chance de le voir 2x en concert en 1995 et en 2006. C'est un de mes bassistes préféré (avec Marcus Miller), et UZEB un groupe mythique qui n'est malheureusement pas assez connu par ici. Félicitations pour tes vidéos, je t'envoie des pensées de soutient en ces moments difficiles. (je viens aussi de perdre un proche).

Well, don't worry. I am perfectly fine. I was down already by the grief. I thought that a good Nightwish song would cheer me up, and I had that. I had no shielding at that specific moment. It just happened like that.

@@GuylainPrince You should have listened to "Alpenglow" or "Storytime", my friend. Or, perhaps, to "Meadows of Heaven" and "Rest Calm". This was surely not the cure.

Hier, un oncle bien-aimé. Depuis 10 jours, c'est l'hécatombe dans mon entourage. Et je ne peux pas être là pour eux. Oui, pénible. Tu vas apprécier mon [ANALYSE] car après avoir regardé la chanson dans son vocabulaire, je tourne mon regard vers l'ensemble de l'album et les circonstances historiques qui sont les nôtres, et je me permets de rêver à un "Tribal 2.0". Cette chanson est trop courte, et elle doit se positionner sur le terrain international. Comme le reste de l'album, comme le band lui-même, maintenant de calibre international.

Great warning about the past and I, for one, am not a man to excuse the inexcusable. For me, that we recognize the mistake of religions (and kingdoms) is fine with me. But if being turned toward the past makes us blind of today's gods and idols (power, money, glory, etc.), than we let them do what they want. And we follow TODAY as kind little sheeps. I would have loved a good "kick in the cans" of these new deities.

?!?! A modern world : I live in it and I have my place. I don't understand your comment.

I have to saw that this bring balm on my mind and my heart. And I appreciate it.

Seems like he has moved on since 2007. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kLCliq-cud3Ydqc.html

In my [ANALYSE] - it has been shot Saturday -. I ask the help of the fans to help me find other songs of this type in Nightwish repertoire. My analysis will be much more cheerful. I choose to have fun with the song.

Well, as the ANALYSE wiil show the language is pretty much judeo-christian. But hey! let's continue with our lives ! Peace !

In my opinion this is a way of venting his frustration. It's clear in his music and lyrics he has a sense of wonder and admiration, and feels emotions like any other sane person. I myself am not a follower of any religion, though baptised here in Belgium (according to the Vatican a center for radical atheists lmao), but I will not judge a good person following personal and communal beliefs if it gives them strength and compassion. I've seen widowers clinging on to their belief in a heaven after their wife's death, and a community that was there for them. It's simply a matter of where to draw the line. Is my belief affecting anyone else or the world adversely? Am I excluding anyone because of a badly translated bronze age script? Am I blind to suffering because I prefer to earn money instead of chasing the lenders out of my personal temple? Does Jesus's sacrifice permit me to do evil as he died for our sins?

I officially tell you, guys, that you will enjoy my [ANALYSE]. As if you were theree to record it. Peace to you. By thee end of the week.

@@GuylainPrince And peace beyond that as well, hopefully. :P

I am flabbergasted! I did not even know that Kai knew Jeff Porcaro !!! Bull's eye on this one, I have to say. Thanks for the link.

This is fabulous Metal drumming. I loved it ! In fact, to be frank, the performance of Kai on NW "Human | Nature" made me curious about him. I will look into his repertoire next summer. For sure. Your suggestion was my first step. Peace, from Canada. Final word : I prefer by far this kind of Death metal than the one I heard here, in Canada. I would have to look at the lyrics to be completely affirmative.

WOW! Thanks. I will do! Well, my uncle died the day before I made that video, but I learnt few hours before... So, well... you know! Not the best time. As for the suggestion, I will have a look at it!

@@GuylainPrince Please receive my sincere condoleances!

Don't worry. It was just bad timing. I don't react like this, ever, on worst songs from other trends of metal. After the build up from my friends, and the high expectation I had, it felt like a "let down" from a group that I highly admire. There is nothing more to it, really. And my analyse will show you how I feel these days about it. Everything is fine.

That is more than one week ago. The day after, everything was ok.

You will LOVE my analysis, because I decided to have a good laugh at the expense of us all, and a bit of Nightwish. I recorded my answer to that few hours after my tribute to Kai, and I think that I got my point through. You will have to tell me.

@@GuylainPrince hm ok so I'm excited because no matter when the recording was made, you were very shocked and perplexed .. I've heard tribal a few times and can say that there are maybe two perspectives .. I think it comes completely with the songon the point of view .. I am really looking forward to your analysis .. and yes .. after that I would like to say something about religions and how I deal with it after several struggles and see the whole thing now because the key to the end of the war with thismy mother gave me a fight .. so much I can tell .. :) ..

Oui. Je comprends votre point de vue. Revenez à l'analyse et dites-moi ce que vous en pensez. Je prends une autre ligne d'interprétation. À vous de me dire ce que vous en pensez. Bien à vous!

I finished it two days ago. Doing the subtitles in my spare time, here and there. It should be out by the end of the week. And be comforted. Yes, ten days ago I was extremely sad. As you will see, I am not in the same state of mind this week. Peace

Yup ! En train de faire mes sous-titres. Ça s'en vient!

Thanks, Cornellius !

Merci.

Well, that was not the case. I did not know that. Dakr Passion Play was a favorite of mine 12 years ago, and I haven't paid much attention to the lyrics. So I did not noticed. As for my reaction, just give me a second chance. My [ANALYSE] of this song will be more to your taste. Wheater or not you agree on the question of convictions/beliefs is of second importance to me, and to you. We can live, side by side, in piece.

Eh bien, ce fut pour moi une découverte, à un bien mauvais moment. Mais bon, une semaine s'est passé depuis. J'ai enregistré mon [ANALYSE] où j'ai eu beaucoup de plaisir. Elle va paraître d'ici la fin de la semaine.

@@GuylainPrince Je comprends, vu les circonstances.

Well, this is a very uncommon situation for me. Grieving of 4 close ones in one week and not being able to walk, or to share this with my family and friends. Stuck in a small apartment. Unusual circumstances, unusual reaction. I never react like this to music. Never. But that time, I had no shielding at all. You will enjoy my analysis, though!

@@GuylainPrince oh I am so sorry, my dearest condolences to you ❤ This must be hard on you to see so many dear ones pass away in a such short time. I wish you a lots of love, it is the strongest force we have. And I will look at your analyse video. ❤❤

Well, the comments are recorded since Saturday evening. Doing the subs. I want to have your opinion on it. See you in two three days.

Master Passion Greed was about Tarja's husband.

@@ChrisPage68 Yes i thought that was more the case but by extension i also think it reflected on her too.

Exactly ! See you at my ANALYSE and tell me what you think

Thanks. Well, it looks we have the same opinion, then. See you at the [ANALYSE].

We agree. Well, you are up for my [ANALYSE] then. Enjoy. On the internet in two/three days.

She is an atheist too nico d. She said it in a Q&A on youtube.

Tolerance is thee key word for everyone to live and care for the "common house".

@@GuylainPrince Guylain,are you familiar with a group called :We The Kingdom ? they have a song :Holy Water, was curious what you thought about it: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bbF8hJVyvbfRpHU.html

You never heard from me that not believing in God makes you a bad person. I never said that in my life (and certainly not on video) and I don't believe that anyway. If you come to this channel, you already know that I respect everyone's beliefs. What I did not like of Tribal is this - as stated many times - it is an unfinished song. The tribal itch is not a religious-only attitude. In fact, the "tribal itch", the most common one today is NOT religious and creeps in every single social media.

I hope so, because in the context of words coming from the judeo-christian tradition, it was not looking good at all.

I will dig into Kai's career during the summer. I love this drummer.

@@GuylainPrince Vous aimerez beaucoup son groupe, Wintersun, je pense. Si vous trouvez nightwish grandiose, attendez vous à être surpris Guylain :)

They push themselves ahead with this album, to such a level! They are unbelievable.

Je vais certainement plonger dans son répertoire personnel, un jour ou l'autre, oui. Merci.

Come back for my analyse. You will love it.

Had to Google Translate the shit out of this reaction and I'm glad I did. Very well said.

Par contre Tuomas est lui même croyant, il est simplement contre les dérives des religions, les manœuvres politiques liées à celles-ci, etc, et c'est ce qu'il dénonce ici, mais il me semble bien l'avoir entendu plusieurs fois dire qu'il était croyant, il porte toujours sa croix autour du cou d'ailleurs.

​@@axelroyer8394 Tu fais erreur je crois bien. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kLCliq-cud3Ydqc.html

@@shuriken4852 Je n'entends rien dans cette vidéo qui me fasse penser le contraire 🤔 j'ai peut-être loupé qqch. Ce que je sais c'est que Tuomas a été élevé dans une famille très pratiquante, a lui même porté une croix autour du cou pendant plus de 10 ans durant ses concerts avec nightwish, a rédigé pas mal de compositions sur fond de religion dans le passé, alors peut-être qu'il a évolué sur ce sujet, on évolue tous. Mais si c'est le cas, il n'a pas toujours eu cette position vis a vis de la religion. D'ailleurs, en lisant un peu les autres commentaires, bcp ont l'air de dire la même chose que moi, ça me rassure je ne suis pas fou 😁

@@axelroyer8394 À moins que je comprend mal, la définition de 'secular'. denoting attitudes, activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis. De plus, la vidéo a été produite pour Open Secular qui a été fondée par Richard Dawkins qui est clairement pro athéisme.

Yes, I will do. In a shot period of time. Probably next year. See you then!

weak fantasy was writen by Marco

@@hamishalexander5048 It was? I didn't know that! Awesome.

She's good, isn't she?

Ha ha ha ! You will LOVE my [ANALYSE]!

Great insights ! Thanks.

The whole album Is, I believe, a search for an authentic spiritual ground. One ground is our creative power for good in music and beyond. Another is seeing the truth about our relationship with the earth, our home, our mother. Perhaps another is imagination and seeing the futures that we can craft in which people matter. Finally, the album looks to our place as intelligent beings looking out to the universe for meaning., for dreaming, for celebration. All this encapsulates God.

Cher Gilles, vous mettez le doigt exactement sur la question. Aussi, je me suis permis dans mon analyse de la chanson, d'utiliser des outils d'analyse qui permettaient de "faire du sens" de tout cela. Je crois avoir trouvé. Et mon analyse, enregistrée samedi dernier, vous confirmera que votre intuition est très proche de la mienne. Paix. et tout bien.

@@GuylainPrince L'air de rien Nightwish donne du fil à retordre ses fans tellement les couches musicales, textuelles et visuelles sont nombreuses sur chaque morceaux et sur la globalité Ce groupe en dehors des aspects évidents, qu'on a l'impression d'avoir déjà entendu ou simples, réclame une patience attentive sur la durée. Et la graine devient fleur...