LM 99 [REACTION / ANALYSIS] NIGHTWISH - Master Passion Greed
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2 жыл бұрынListening together to the whole album "Dark Passion Play" from Nightwish. We continue our journey with "Master Passion Greed", the fifth song of the album. First, we listen together to the song by the symphonic metal band Nightwish. And, second, there is an analysis of the lyrics and of the song.
== Official video of the song:
• Master Passion Greed
This video is part of the 'Lectio Musica' series started in April 2020.
== Presentation of the series (French and English subtitles) :
• LM. 00. Introduction '...
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@marcklinker9229 2 жыл бұрын
Master Passion Greed is dedicated to Tarja Turunen's husband and manager Marcelo Cabuli. According to Holopainen, it's the heaviest song in the band's history.[10] When he wrote the song, he brought all the anger the band has experienced over Turunen's split into the music. Olzon was originally supposed to sing the song. After the band debated the song and lyrics, Hietala interjected that it would be unfair for Olzon to sing the song as an uninvolved person. That is why Hietala's voice can be heard in this song.[7] Holopainen has already announced that the song will not be played at concerts because his feelings today are no longer consistent with the lyrics.[16] The song was composed entirely on guitar by Holopainen.[ from WIKIPEDIA
@phillee2814 2 жыл бұрын
The whole album had been written before Anette had been selected, and many of the instrumental tracks recorded.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input! Excellent!
@littleraven28 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite angry song. I love the heavy riffs that Emppu brings, Jukka trying to kill his drum set and Marko who not only plays nice riff but brings his angriest vocals ever. The growing sound of the brass and the choir in the end is like no other song. This is pure rage made into an awesome piece of music.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
totally agree with you. Sometimes, people focus on Tuomas alone and do not consider how the whole band had to deal with the situation. Your comment in that regards is perfect. The contribution of ALL is exceptional and I think that ALL gave their best shot for that song. To express what they lived.
@geminigrrl66 Жыл бұрын
It's been awhile Fr. Prince but what a way for me to reaquaint myself with your amazing analysis. Master Passion Greed is actually one of my favorite songs from Dark Passion Play because it feels so brutally honest. Yes it's about Tarja's husband and it's angry and unapologetic in that rage. There's also the pain of betrayal too. I've always loved the way Tuomas composes and he's absolutely brilliant, but sometimes it's as if he's somewhat aloof though not in a negative sense. With MPG I feel like he's letting us inside of himself which is a pretty vulnerable thing to do. Add to that, Marko pretty much rage screaming vocals from his own feelings of anger and it was like seeing Nightwish in a different light. I understand why they'll never perform it and honestly, they don't need to.
@Donna-C 2 жыл бұрын
12:06 - “what this puts into music is not familiar to me” I think that’s exactly how Tuomas felt! He did not know how to deal with all these feelings that were bubbling away - so he did the deep dive into his art and conveyed it in the song. I think the song was for himself not for anyone else
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
That might be it. This song was ex-pression : pressure to get something out of him (and of them). And once it was "created", they were moving to something else already. These emotions are not him anymore. But they are part of his history.
@timchambers8230 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! - the heaviest and angriest song ever composed by Tuomas and my favourite running song when things start to hurt body wise 😉
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ! Well, it brings the energy up, I understand. Ouf!
@Elias-hq2yu 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for insightful analysis! This song inspired by primitive emotions leads us to deep water in human psyche. I was originally not a fan of this song. I felt a kind of sense of shame of unintentionally looking behind the scenes. But now starting to see it more like as a musical “case-study” of human feeling and behavior in conflict. Although the song is very subjective and expresses deep anger, the song writing and composing process, including the melody lines for numerous instruments, takes months. You cannot be angry for months. So therefore, I assume that the songwriter has in some stage taken the perspective of documentarist. He cannot omit this phase that was important for him and the whole band. He wants to be brutally honest. It best serves the healing process.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
TOTALLY AGREE! The last section of the song shows the intricate capacity of Tuomas to "build in music" something coherent and confusing at the same time. This is a GREAT song.
@davidcoyne7291 2 жыл бұрын
The sound of absolute fury and rage perfectly packaged. The production and mix of this song is outstanding even if the subject matter is not for everyone. Guitar riff upon guitar riff, thunderous drumming and a berserker sounding Marko. It really is an unusual sound for Nightwish although pieces of Poet and the pendulum and Bye bye beautiful have a similar emotional response. Mind you they did come close to this type of emotional over load on the Human/ Nature album with the songs Noise and Tribal despite some fans feeling the album was not heavy enough.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
What you say, here, is EXACTLY what I felt, listening to it in my earphone for the first time since 2008. Like I said, I usually listen to it in my car. But, here, in my office, with my earphones : it was something else. Much more powerful and rich. That was quite an experience!
@fearmac 2 жыл бұрын
I skip it too sometimes. I got my first speeding ticket listening to it after thirty five years with a clean record!!
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Ha ha ha ! Well, now you understand why I use a cruise control!!!
@NickBR57 2 жыл бұрын
You should be aware that Marco's vocal here is echoed in the original version of Poet. For the album it was recorded with Anette, but it's well worth watching the Marco version.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for reminding me that. Yes, I did listen to it a little while ago. I enjoyed it. Very much!
@christinamatic5137 2 жыл бұрын
I used to always skip this song too. And I like how you explain that it's because the rage in it is not as familiar. But the older I get, the more I think I have an appreciation just for the raw emotion and expression in it. By the way, I really appreciate how you use the chiastic structure to describe the song with ABCA'B'C'. It makes so sense!
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Structure in composition / text is my specialty in text analysis. But you have to know that it is also an easy way for musicians to understand the structure of a song. By patterns. Patter A = verse structure (and chords progression). That way, you learn patterns and a short word (AABABCDBB), hence, the name of a song by Genesis : ABACAB. Peace!
@laurentyvangurewitch3940 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered if this song might not be a little rough for you. You accepted it with equanimity, the good and the bad of this emotional outpouring. Nice job! I always liked this because it spoke differently to me than Nightwish's other songs.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
I would say this : the artistic part of the song is understandable for me. The human part as well. I can "understand", it does not mean, like I said, that I would listen to it constantly. But once in while, it makes perfect sense to me! And I love it (artistically, I have no problem with it).
@DanTheSqueegeeMan Жыл бұрын
Guylain, thank you for analyzing this album. This is actually one of the few albums of NW that I don’t know very well, except for TPATP. So I hope I will find the time to enjoy your thorough analyses. I really liked your past The Warning and NW videos. A question: do you know the Ukrainian band Jinjer and have you considered analyzing songs from them? Tatiana, the singer, is not only a phenomenal vocalist, she is also a very talented lyricist. Highly recommended. If you are interested I can give you a few suggestions. However, they are far heavier than everything I ever watched on your channel, so not sure if it’s your cup of tea.
@GuylainPrince Жыл бұрын
Not much (Jinger). I think I have seen one video of them. That is all.
@The_Pony 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Fr Prince,it's been a while since I commented. Thank you, as always, for your beautiful reactions and lyrics analysis. You're incredible as usual ❤️
@GuylainPrince Жыл бұрын
Thanks PONY! For guys like you, I'm back on the rails.
@GlobalTossPot 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings Guylain! Just started getting back into watching your reaction/analysis videos! Awesome as always. Good to be back to your channel! Hope all is well, take care!
@GuylainPrince Жыл бұрын
Yes, it was a while, for me too. But now, I am back on track.
@milton1448 2 жыл бұрын
That outro .....in my top 10 of Nightwish.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@marita2g 2 жыл бұрын
If im ever tired, I always listen to this a few times in a row. It always wakes me up. Heheh
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
It HAS TO have that effect! Higher heart beat, no doubt!
@marita2g 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuylainPrince it really does! It certainly gives that “umf” effect on your heart. 😄
@PetraPola Жыл бұрын
The story behind lyrics is strong. Then I listened Tarja view (Enough, Diva, Until my last breath, Shadow play) to this song and it is refreshing see her side of story. I know, that this song is very popular, but for me is vicious. Poor Tarja.
@rianavermeulen4316 2 жыл бұрын
😍😍😍😍😍😍
@goranelez9956 Жыл бұрын
This is my workout song, but not in a normal way. When I get angry at work and need to let off steam, I get home, headphones, hop on rowing machine and watch miles fly.
@GuylainPrince Жыл бұрын
I understand very well!!!
@Freeze014 2 жыл бұрын
I sometimes wonder if Tuomas would have preferred keeping this song for himself instead of publishing it. 1) as this kind of rage is not an emotion that you sustain over longer periods of time. And now by it being published it kind of is forever there. 2) it could even be a hindrance in full reconciliation with a friend they knew from childhood.
@GuylainPrince Жыл бұрын
Well. Even if the words and the singing is very "raw", the complex arrangements show that they work for months on it. They had something to get out. That is what they did.
@johnlanham9057 2 жыл бұрын
Master, Passion, Greed is aimed squarely at Marcelo Cabuli. Tarja’s manager, come husband. She was a bad enough diva before meeting him. After he became her manager, he put it in her head that it should be "Tarja Turunen and the Tarja Turunen players, featuring Tarja Turunen." Marcelo was the Yoko Ono/Courtney Love of Nightwish 💙💙💙All Hail Floor !! 💙💙💙 Infantryman-Nightwish Army. US Regiment. Kentucky Battalion RIP Ann Waychoff-Commanding General-Nightwish Army
@GuylainPrince Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info John. Excellent ! Peace to you and, yes, I remember Ann Waychoff very well. She use to give a lot of very precise info. Thanks for reminding me!
@renejensen7799 2 жыл бұрын
Next week Eva, we go from intensive anger, to a very beatiful song.. I have never seen a live version of this song, so to my knowledge, no it was never played live. And i know i did see a interview with Tuomas made a few years after the release of the song (album), where he said, it was anger for this moment, and something they passed in the band by now, so this expresion would make no sense to play for them anymore, as it was buried in the past by then.. and as someone else wrote, this song is directed at Tarja´s husband/Manager Marcello.
@GuylainPrince Жыл бұрын
Yup! It sounds like that kind of song. The whole band was completely involved in that song. I think it is the firs time that bass-lines / drums / guitars / keyboards are synchronized to that level: being furious. A catharsis for the whole band, no doubt!
@juhavaris2144 2 жыл бұрын
One of there best songs 👍🔥❤️
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
I love the song.
@guimich2478 2 жыл бұрын
Hello friar! Hope you are doing well! Yes this song is full of fury and it sounds like a passage obligé to get a monkey of our back. The rythm is very thrashy with double bass that more the likes of bands like Pantera, Kreator or Children of Bodom. I love this style but for Nightwish as you said I enjoy it in a casual way. When this song comes on I love it but I do not listen to it everyday. To me context matters. To me it feels like a dichotomy over certain types of song. This song pushes the edge on emotions and can only be felt with a certain dose. The wounds canot heal if you often remember only the anger and hate. For some people anger is a gift but I understand that more fast paced songs like this one can overwhelm our ears. It's a hard punch to swallow. Nightwish fans know to whom this song is dedicated so I will not enter in this game. Periods of transition do have rough corners and it takes some time to recover. Water goes under the bridge and time can often heal... See you soon. I did not know you were doing Dark Passion Play. An album where I was still in a hiatus from listening to the band.
@GuylainPrince Жыл бұрын
Exactly! This my impression too! And happy to be back on track. You will like the next projects as well!
@CCEDE73 2 жыл бұрын
It is an expression of anger and powerlessness over Tarja's (then) new husband Marcelo Cabuli, who they felt had destroyed what they had in the band bga. his desire for i.a. money and desire to control the band, which ultimately led to them firing Tarja.
@johannessilver8653 Жыл бұрын
This burst of anger of Tuomas can not be sung by Anette who is an outsider to that what just happened in NW. The reason for the song is the husband of Tarja and his influence on her to change her attitude into unwanted direction more far away from the band internal original chemistry. Marco is an insider (unlike Anette) and actually first who suggested that in loud and out that Tarja should leave the band cause he was the only one in the line-up who was not there in the very beginning and a founding member of NW. Fortunately today they (Tarja and Marco) hug each other (RJ Christmas concerts Ave Maria etc). Maybe they even make a duet song together in the near future.
@nathaliecazenave8677 2 жыл бұрын
je rejoins le commentaire la chanson la plus heavy de Nightwish, un Tuomas très en colère, pauvre Annette , être au centre d'un conflit qui ne la concernait pas
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
C'est ce qui me semble, oui!
@tuuli4002 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why there is no live version (at least with Floor, also I know Marco sings this) is because she is Tarja's friend and she doesn't want to perform this song or bye bye beautiful. Also Tuomas doesn't want to perform these songs because he sais that he isn't that person who wrote these songs anymore. Through these two songs (and also poet and the pendulem) you can see that how deeply Tarja's departure affected on him.
@DeepeningTheListening 2 жыл бұрын
Master Passion Greed has never been played live and Bye Bye Beautiful has last been played live in 2008. Tuomas has made these decisions long before Floor joined.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for your comments. This makes it clearer for me.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
I did, once! And loved it! Thanks for reminding me.
@fredericledoux8184 2 жыл бұрын
Bonjour Guylain ! Alors, pour des morceaux aussi heavy, il faut remonter loin, Pharaoh Sails to Orion est extrêmement heavy aussi, et certainement une ou deux autres qui m'échappent à l'instant où j'écris ces mots, mais sinon, en effet, c'est très rare, tout à fait d'accord ! Update : C'est FantasMic part I (je crois) et surtout part III ;)
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
En effet. Je ne me rappelais pas de tes deux références. Il me faudra y replonger. Au fait, bon retour à toi!
@MacZussie 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding EVA. There is live footage from Anette, which was taken from mobiles with poor sound/video quality. So that would add nothing to Anette's splendid studio version. Afaik there is no live version from Floor either. So my favorite version of that song won't be from Floor nor Anette, but from one of Floor's former pupils, whom she gave lessons before joining Nightwish! In 2019 that girl, Susanne, finished her study to join her friend Thomas as a full time musician. Both were looking for more band members to become a full band. 2020 should be their year to start playing live concerts, however...the timing couldn't have been more worse. I didn't see them on concerts in 2022, so they may have switched into another career ?
@MacZussie 2 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l-BhmNN6253Ih4U.html (my favorite live version of Eva)
@MacZussie 2 жыл бұрын
P.S. The singer now possesses a master degree in mathematics and started to run, what has become one of the most successful German KZfaq tudor channels for math, called "MathemaTrick"
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, wow! I don't know in your country, but in Canada, the pandemic had that effect, yes. Many persons reevaluate their main occupation and chose to switch to something else.
@MacZussie 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuylainPrince Floor even recommended her to Avantasia, when she was asked, which one from her stable could replace their leaving singer. Yet Susan remained loyal to her friend's band project while she rejected their biddings. By the way, she grew up in Sarre, where pupils used to have French as their first foreign language. So I guess she might be quite fluent in French, too😉. Maybe you can check out her covers of French chanson's...eventually.
@DeepeningTheListening 2 жыл бұрын
Marko is not credited for writing the music of Master Passion Greed. Tuomas has said that he composed that song with a guitar instead of the keyboard, that's why it sounds so different.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Yup! It makes a lot of sense. This being said, the keybordist crept back in the arrangments... WOW!
@stpfs9281 2 жыл бұрын
Tuomas, lyrics with Marko? I wasn't expecting the "Speed Metal"! Ungrateful: "To bite the hand that feeds you" Mammon, money, greed. Svengali character, seduce her, destroy her, cheat her, deceive her. The band is not for the money (although that helps), but the artistic expression. Tuomas, the highly sensitive person (they all are), overwhelmed by the emotions.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
And Marko as an full artist, bringing of his own in the interpretation of the lyrics. Same quality in Endlessness. I think that he is underrated as a singer / artist / interpreter of emotions.
@stpfs9281 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuylainPrince Have you heard "The Islander" yet? Marko at Tampere, "The weasels have left me all alone, I'd better do something." "Will you join me in the chorus?"
@AchimE 2 жыл бұрын
Nice reaction! They have awesome compositions! Please come back to The Warning, they released the whole album, you will be amazed by the 6 new songs! Pau, the drummer, sings lead on three of them! Some are heavy, some are softer… I‘m looking forward to your analyses! Interesting lyrics too, as usual! Merci, greetings from Germany 👍⚡️🤘
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
I will. Very soon!
@simonechabauxtidu8171 2 жыл бұрын
Bonjour Guylain, Je comprends que cet album et les précédents vous "parlent" car encore très chargés de culture judeo-chrétienne . Sans compter tous ces textes polysémiques car Tuomas n'est pas assez naïf pour être dans du pur "'intime", donc il fictionnarise, utilise sa culture littéraire et laisse chacun se débrouiller avec ça un certain temps, jusqu'à la deuxième partie de DPP et "Song of myself "sur Imaginaerum. Fin du coeur en bandoulière. Et il passe à autre chose. Deux albums "théâtraux " DPP (play= pièce de théâtre, jeu et jouer)et Imaginaerum (le monde du rêve et le voyage d'une troupe) et déjà, Thoreau (My Walden). On est dans la troisième phase avec EFMB et Human://: Nature et ça coincide avec l'importance grandissante de trois personnes : Johanna Kurkela et Troy ( tous deux avec lui pour AURI) et Floor. J'ajouterais , plus récemment, Kai dans HN. Avec Troy, fin de la phase judeo-chrétienne, déjà perceptible ds Imaginaerum. Ce n'est pas tant le virage émotionnel qui peut perturber quelqu'un comme vous que le virage "idéologique" . Tout le monde a remarqué combien TH était plus heureux sur scène depuis l'arrivée de Floor et Troy . Et on est content pour lui et pour tout le groupe. En 25 ans, on évolue, on change et c'est heureux et souhaitable. Autres textes, autres musiques. Ça s'appelle avancer quand d'autres marchent à reculons. Vous connaissez peut-être cette phrase de Lampedusa dans son roman le Guépard : Pour que rien ne change, il faut que tout change. C'est ma lecture d'ensemble des albums du groupe donc éminemment subjective. J'attends la suite de la vôtre. Merci pour votre travail d'analyse.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
Vous avez en partie raison. Ma familiarité avec la culture et le vocabulaire / images judéo-chrétiens rend la lecture des chansons plus immédiate. Je n'ai pas besoin de lire trois livres pour comprendre la poésie de Tuomas, comme dans Human. :||: Nature. La force évocatrice de Tribal, pour moi, fut de comprendre les allusions - encore judéo-chrétiennes - à la première lecture. Donc, là-dessus, vous avez parfaitement raison. Par contre, là n'est pas la raison du fait que je connecte plus aux chansons / textes des ères de Tarja et Anette : elles traitent de situations personnelles. Voilà tout. On comprend ce que c'est que d'être en amour, de sentir de la rage, etc. Et, alors que je terminais l'ère Tarja (série sur les 24 chansons les plus aimées), c'est devenu très clair : les gens qui sont encore attachés à cette période sont attachés à des émotions / sentiments qu'ils vivent directement dans leur vie. Des grands thèmes comme la planète, l'évolution, les espèces en danger, la justice me sont très chers. Voilà pourquoi, aussi, je peux apprécier au plus haut point un album comme "HN". Moi, personnellement, j'aime moins EFMB, mais pas pour dire que je ne l'aime pas. Je trouve HN beaucoup plus abouti, musicalement et au niveau de la clarté des idées. Je souhaite à Tuomas toute la sérénité relationnelle à laquelle il a droit et, pour moi aussi, le membership de 2013 à 2021 fut mon préféré : pour moi, Floor est supérieure en tout point, l'ajout de Troy est une contribution majeure. En résumé : Mon album préféré (musical, instrumental et thématique) est DPP. Ce qui le démarque, ce sont les thèmes. Au plan académique / artistique, HN est plus abouti, mais il me touche moins personnellement. L'écriture est plus distante, alors que les thèmes me sont très très chers. Je considère que c'est un chef-d'oeuvre. Merci de votre excellent commentaire.
@simonechabauxtidu8171 2 жыл бұрын
@@GuylainPrince En fait j'ai d'abord entendu leur musique et les voix. Sur du bon matériel, pas en MP3. C'est plus tard que je me suis intéressée aux textes, en particulier parce que quelqu'un a attiré mon attention sur le fameux Poète et son pendule. Et j'ai été sensible aux références culturelles et littéraires des albums (je les ai tous). Et là je me suis intéressée à leur auteur, c'est rare tant de culture et de références poétiques. Je peux comprendre bien sûr qu'on soit sensible aux émotions mais je m'inquiète quand elles prennent le pas sur tout le reste. Je suis et reste une littéraire, quelqu'un que la création littéraire fascine, nettement moins dans l'identification et la surinterprétation autobiographique des "fans". De ce point de vue, je trouve que vous savez bien mettre en valeur qu'un texte n'est pas à sens unique. Mais les commentaires de certains fans (et leur" vision" des années Tarja/Annette et toute l'hystérie qui en a suivi) me désole. Je respecte les opinions, je n'aime pas le fanatisme . Je n'ai découvert le groupe qu'en 2016, donc loin du bruit et de la fureur de ces années.D'accord avec vous sur HN, l'album de la maturité. Le suivant est sur les rails, pour 2023.
@stasa-X 2 жыл бұрын
This song it was my worst from the album for two reasons, first I didn't like the music itself and second reason was the lyrics, I felt Tuomas's pain and anger and bleeding with him. After years it became an album track and I listen to it with pleasure. How angry he was when Tuomas wrote the lyrics, Leech, Judah, greed, sneak, how much it hurt him to interfere with the group and their friendship, he was constantly at their feet, behind the scenes, in rehearsals, he was everywhere, you said something Quellain that the poet didn't speak and couldn't vent, you're right Tuomas was a closed guy, when he fired Sami Vaska the former bass player had the manager do it and immediately Sami went and found him and told him he had to do it himself and not to find out from third parties and Tuomas got angry with himself then, but he did it again with Tarja and Anette after,the same mistake. They had a court and Marcelo win and Tuomas promise to never played in lives this song if i remember well, so he keeps his promise. Bye bye beautiful it was for Tarja and Master passion:Greed it was for her husband. He couldn't speak directly but he can speak as an artist and he did it. He must somehow regretted after but the moments of angry and pain lives on with his music and DPP. I don't believe that exists the song EVA in live with NW but i remember that i found one live with Anette only , so sad because NW introduced her to their fans with this song. I am very happy for DPP journey Quellain , this journey took years after the album's release but i love it and i am still a huge fan of the album, so thank you!! See you next week,bye till then, peace my friend.
@GuylainPrince 2 жыл бұрын
I love this journey in DPP. Very important, from my point of view, in the NW's discography.
@stasa-X 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, it's a great album.
@Aenar_Targaryen Жыл бұрын
Io non so se sia corretto ma io ho sempre pensato che ci fosse molto di più in questa canzone del semplice rimpianto per la disgregazione del gruppo, io ho sempre pensato che il grande dolore sia nel fatto di aver perso una persona amata, forse anche il rimpianto di non aver parlato in tempo si riferisce anche a questo cioè di non aver espresso i suoi veri sentimenti in tempo e di conseguenza ha perso la sua amata. Io penso anche che potrebbe addirittura essere la persona destinataria di tutte le canzoni (pensando anche a bye bye beautiful a molte cose dette in quella canzone oppure in ghost love score o ancora beauty of the beast) the Angel o The Beauty che ritorna spesso nelle canzoni di Tuomas come soggetto potrebbero essere sempre la stessa persona che ha perso è da qui tutta quella rabbia (che io capisco). Un'altra cosa che mi fa pensare a questo che poi piano piano i temi si sono sposati in tutt'altra direzione: la natura, l'evoluzione ecc
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