But the name has "humane" in it, so it must be some coming messiah product that's going to save the world! >.>

@@SurgStriker if only Him self comes down

​@@SurgStrikerMe after Dune: "That must be the Lisan al Gaib!"

Cook them Akamu 😂😂

Exactly. It’s micro-aggressions towards MKBHD. And it makes them money as they are making a controversy out of him after all others had the same feeling for the exact AI clip technology. The double standards.

are you talking about apple rigth

Weirdly the company never started this, they were even fine with it and said it was expected. Techbros were acting on their own.

@@donkey7921 More specifically, people who are overly invested in the AI hype train. The same people that told everyone they were dumb about crypto and NFTs if they didn't jump on board IMMEDIATELY. The same people that told everyone they were dumb about the metaverse if they didn't jump on board IMMEDIATELY. These people are just mad that people are saying the truth about AI products at the moment. They're garbage. They don't do what they're promised to do and they all want us to buy into the hype and fork over money on the promise of 'They'll get better!' without giving any plan on HOW or WHEN.

@@hlmc00this sentence is sounds like it’s spoken from an alternate universe Mike Tyson who was never a boxing champion and instead devotes his energy to complaining about Apple on KZfaq.

the only harm marquess ever made to that company is probably its share value dropping, so most of the haters are probably just the investors fuming at mkhd since they were left with holding the bag lol

Nah, there would be Monoblock in every home if it wasn't for villainous Linus.

bad reviews might speed up the inevitable. hard to say if thats a good or bad thing, depends who best interest is in mind.

Facts.

@@Jrakula10 definitely a good thing, the less companies there are making shit products the better, and the quicker they go the better. Not the reviewers fault at all in the end tho

Plenty of companies that make or made good products have gone under, it isn't binary. You can have a company with a good product fail because of marketing and you can have a trash product be huge with good marketing. Let's not pretend this is a universal truth k?

amen

I'm triggered reeeeee

Those last two sentences are a bit much

​@@dtemp132 yeah, but that's the truth

not to be that guy but it wasnt so long ago that linus caught a lot of hate for doing a similarly honest review that "killed" a product. I know parts of the video were wrong, but even after knowing the mistakes - I can only say the Monoblock was a piece of shit product who no one should have bought.

Picking apart the other person instead of the argument is literally a fallacy too xD . _Ad hominem_ *abusive* is the name.

That’s the main story here. None of these headlines came out defending the product and mentioning anything it’s actually useful for, or actually trying to prove the review was false or wrong. Just full blown attacks on the reviewer and accusing the review of bankrupting a company.

@@anoobplays386 what people don't mention.. is one of the person that made the main critique of MKBHD had some maybe private interest in the company..

the issue is that they do the even get kickback for bad reviews on competitors products

@@hlmc00I’m pretty sure that’s not legal

exactly, this is why i DON'T watch marques videos. He is such an apple and tesla fanboy you can't trust him in being objective, or at least trying to be.

@@tylernoble8137 he doesn't have to disclose it just money under the table

@@kerolokerokerolobut he quite literally gave a bad review about the cyber truck and I don’t even think he personally uses Apple. I’ve only ever seen him with Samsung but maybe I just came late to the party

And investors

And Twitter

And good LORD they are the epitome of Entitled, they're all on twitter too

@@MuzikBike Twitter is like 60% entitled tech bros

@@MuzikBike to be fair to twitter for once, the only people i have seen complaining about this review even on there have NFTs as profile pictures.

In a world where capitalism is almost a religion, doing anything that is bad for any company is like attacking the papacy.

"It's simple, disagreeing with a corporation is equivalent to being an anarchist terrorist, because they are the law and system of order of society, so disagreeing means you are trying to cause chaos and destroy peace and order. Dystopian capitalism controls the world, and trying to fight against that is going against the established order." -How to Reframe Normal Consumer Behavior as Controversial and Control the Narrative, by Dr. Shill.

Depends on how "honest" you are, you can sometimes see reviews about stupidly expensive products and they are like "wow the quality is amazing" and they don't go out to say don't buy it, but then they see another expensive product and they go out of their way to convince people not to buy it. If you give advice do it every time or don't do it and just show the product, otherwise it seems fishy.

Welcome to capitalism!

Because there is a trend of clueless tech Bros going all in on the latest crazes and fads. They can't afford to be wrong, so If anyone says that they are doing something wrong, those people are the enemy.

Wrong. He blatantly lies when it comes to samsung products. Remember his galaxy moon shots that turned to be fake?

@@marvinracer88 This has nothing to do with a bad product being bad

@@joeylalonde3458 it those sense its a product

⁠​⁠@@joeylalonde3458Bad is subjective. Most companies don’t intentionally release bad products. Consumers determine that. Look at Apple products. They make good products overall but look how easy it is for so many people to say how “bad” they are. On the other side of the coin, you can have a company produce new products that are different but because we, as reviewers and consumers, have certain expectations about how something should work or performer, they may come up short, which is the case with this AI pin that Marques reviewed. The best anyone can expect from a product review is that the reviewer will be honest, no matter the outcome. However we take it (agree or disagree) doesn’t necessarily mean the product is actually good or bad.

@@hlmc00 try proofreading

​@brent19832009That country is an exception. The people there have high suicidal tendencies when hearing something even remotely insulting. Other countries are brazen enough and can handle real criticism.

​@brent19832009thank God America values free speech

You unethically tell everyone that she has loose one

Even 747 looks small when flying through the Grand Canyon. 😂

@@shivins1 💀💀💀

I have a small phone too Small phone club 🤙

That’s just it. We watch everyone’s opinion on any video on the internet.

one of the main guy that called out mkbhd initially had private interest in the company..

That would only be acceptable if it was a prototype and you signed an NDA.

@@Goatfer if that was on the NDA, I would not review the product 🤣 (edit: if it were a prototype, that disclaimer goes to the very front of the vid, and a reminder at the end that it’s a prototpe and to stay tuned for the actual review.

I am just an audience member here, but what if it was something they could fix, relatively quickly. I know that is pretty uncommon, but why put out a negative review, especially before release if packaging issues or something can be fixed and then after it is a better product for everyone and everyone can know after.. IDK this the wierd edge case that goes through my head.

@@DallasATrain7 Still many customers would get a product with issues and they wouldn't have the reach to make the company notice, like everyone has said if you don't want a bad review just make sure your product is good before release and that's it

@@DallasATrain7 that's what the disclaimers are for.

A good example of this kind of "reviewer" is Unbox Therapy 🤮

so how would you know if the review is real or not?

People still watch LTT

Exactly. Otherwise they are just influencers😂

Truth only hurts if it should....

Hurt Harm

That truth could also kill a company.

If it's poop say it's good if it's excellent say it's great it's like getting an f it's higher than 50 but it's still failing

tha`s it is new models always have bugs and issues but cancel a company not only it hurts the company it self but also the employs and how would they be able to fix anything if a bad review of some that dint just bankrupt it

Honestly, I would love to be an early adopter if I have extra cash to spare. Maybe that is what he meant?

@@hlmc00you have to make sure your very expensive product should be thoroughly tested before hand, if it’s worth that ridiculous price.

​@@alpine9214i believe it not just cost money, but also time...

@@alpine9214 If you have the cash and time to spare then you risk very little by being an early adopter. But generally, it's just not worth it for the average consumer, given how unstable products are at launch these days.

The moment tech bros thought not falling for a scam is an insult to the holy AI blockchain NFT crypto god

I thought the company was suing him or something

We could shit on Raycon more. Those things are abominable, especially considering the price.

@@shazarakk is there not? Pretty sure I hear ad talkpoint more than reviews.

@@shazarakk Have you ever wanted $50 of bass? What, treble? mids? Kids don't listen to that stuff, they just want BASS -Raycon, probably

If everyone is good then good has no meaning or then nobody knows what good means

I mean, that's what they want. They want your money in exchange for the least amount of effort, accountability and work on their part.

Ironically they would go after him with the dmca takedown with a claim that fairy it's not fair use because of the last point you know effect on market and stuff because you're spoiling the whole thing

LMG's problem was due to an internal mistake (well, a handful) that got blown out of proportion by a peer in the space who, by my own estimation, did so to primarily cause attention and ultimately gain greater clout in the space. LMG sure made mistakes, but they were rather honest ones, and for some community members, it was simply an opportunity for... well, haters, really, to come out of the woodwork and use the drama to justify whatever weird personal grievances they have with the company for X, Y, or Z reason.

@@LoganChristianson Wah Wah Wah

@@LoganChristianson pretty sure they already had a mass release product sent to many reviewers... a product that took a better of 2 years to go Gold

Ha 😂

@@Man-of-Steel674 Exhibit A.

You know, Amazon should remove the ability to review their products with a 1 star, 2 star review minimum should increase sales

Linus has moments where he just comes across as extremely petty. Now for all we know he might be referring to a different situation, but it does come across as him being still miffed about that completely botched review being called out for what it was.

I mean it’s pretty much the same thing where people argued he destroyed a company because their review wasn’t positive enough

@@Henrik0x7F AFAIR it was not because it wasn’t positive enough, but because of the wrong data. It’s like reviewing AI pin after wearing it in a pocket the whole time.

@@Atedos😂😂

Too many companies are acting like Disney without billions in yearly profit. Disney can weather hella storms, these small companies cannot.

lol that was unethical for sure

did you just censor balls like it's a swear?

Yeah, this whole clip screams "We need to make sure everyone believes tech-reviewers are honest and never take money or deals to push certain messages! Our livelihoods depend on the masses still believeing that nonsense!"

@@PixyEm talk to youtube about it. Not me

I don't get why you'd jump ship to a dying framework in 2024.

by your anotación apple has many bad products

Welcome to KZfaq. If you want your videos to actually get seen by the general public, you have to appeal to their basest, clickbait urges.

A company primarily focused on youtube can only thrive if they play the algorithm game. LTT wouldn't be where it is if they didn't understand this. That doesn't mean they won't care about the rest, it just means they understand that for the video to be successful in the platform, that's the #1 thing that truly makes a difference.

This billet labs comment is brilliant! I still can't believe how awfully LMG handled that situation lol.

Is this you Steve? 😂

they did not profit nor intend to profit from auctioning off the block. it was because of an email error billet replied in a different email chain so they never got the address. and heres the kicker, billet said they could keep it and always intended on them keeping the block. it was only after the negative review was released that they decided they wanted the block back, and wanted to be reimbursed for the price of the block and acted as if they were too small of a company to function without that return on investment.

@@embismusic Whether or not they profited off of it is irrelevant, because it was Billet's property, not LMG property. And it's perfectly reasonable for Billet to have asked for the review sample back since LMG never actually reviewed it.

@@wta1518 It is relavent because you're spreading misinformation. Many people constantly parrot that LMG sold off Billet's property, meaning they profited off of it. Every onlooker would see that and think LMG are thiefs. And that is mainstream view many people have because of how it's been simplified. That LMG ruined a company with a bad review and sold off their property. But as far as LMG knew, it WAS their property because the original agreement was always that LMG would keep the block after the video. It was then auctioned off for charity, after Billet already told them they could keep it. Due to a screw up on LMG's side, they never saw the shipping address to send the block back. So the block being auctioned off was because an internal email chain error, and not malice.

Most definitely

That's probably intentional since that's what they're talking about

lol

I mean not really

LOL Linux man strikes again

wut

Yeah, Linus comes off a bit tone deaf considering his own very recent sins in the space. Marques did nothing wrong in this case, but LMG definitely has. They’ve promised to do better, but this makes it sound like no self reflection followed by real change has actually taken place.

​@@shivorath"tone depth" lol

@@shivorath marques mocked other companies about the galaxy moon photos claiming those were real, it was proved samsung lied and he shut his mouth about it because samsung pays him big money. So not exactly "nothing wrong", hes kind of a bullshitter.

My guy there are tons of usage of AI. AI has been around long before it became a buzzword. Generative AI isn't the only use of AI y'know

@@SirNoobWulf maybe i've simplified a bit too much - im talking about the pointless generative AI bullshit. Deep learning science models and stuff are cool and here to stay, just don't do late stage capitalism please.

What does this comment have to do with MKBHD's coverage of the AI pin or Linus and Luke's discussion surrounding that "controversy?" AI in and of itself is not unethical. What is your argument that AI, as a technology in and of itself, is unethical? Argue all you want about how the energy being used to power compute clusters is from coal or whatever. That is a completely different problem and is in fact a problem, yes, but AI in and of itself. How is it unethical?

@@angrygreek1985 My argument is that using so much resources for a text chat or shitty picture generators, that do not benefit the world in a resonable way is unethical when we face a global climate crisis. Also, as said literally by chat gpt creators for example, it is not possible to train such models without stealing other people - artists - works. Further, that thing was trained using almost slave labour. There's a really good PhilosophyTube episode on that. I said in a previous comment that I went to far and not specified what "AI" am I talking about - im all in for training scientific models for example. However, I do not call them AI, since they are not. The "AI" I meant was the mainstream techbro stuff.

You said all that and didn't end it with "There is no ethical consumption under capitalism" SMH, I thought you were going somewhere

You don't think Marques has better lawyers than this small business?

@@HorsesArePeople2 if someone makes false claims about a product it is called product disparagement, something that is illegal. It doesnt matter how good your lawyers are, this is a black n white law suit. Your product does X and they say it did Y = win.

@@av1204 I envy your ignorance about the legal system

@@HorsesArePeople2 im a corporate lawyer....

Is that irony in the room with us right now?

@@Henrik0x7F Why are you searching this video's comment section for negative responses just to give banal responses to said comments? Is this out of some sense of misguided loyalty towards Linus, or do you have something else which compels you to defend a man who doesn't care about you?

@@cup_of_joe I just don’t get what’s ironic about it. If you want to say something negative I can’t and won’t stop you. But I don’t see anything with substance. Just low effort shit posts trying to bring up drama. Post low effort comments, receive low effort replies

What video is that?

@@runescapefan0001 You mean you didn't know about that expensive waterblock that LTT reviewed that caused so much vitriol they had to make a non sincere apology video filled with jokes and LTT Store ads they may have deleted the video already but in short Linus had an all in one CPU and GPU Block reviewed but tested it with the wrong GPU as they used an RTX4090 but the block was only designed for an RTX3090 then called it a bad product since as expected the GPU temps were bad his partner in the video asked him if they could test it again with the right GPU but Linus declined and said it won't change the result and continued to call it a bad product and then he explained on another video that he didn't wanna pay his employee to test it again the right way then they also sold it at an auction even though it was sent to them on loan since it was a prototype.

So do mkbhd

pathetic numbers

14 years 49 subscribers

Linus fell off.

Wow it's like a video has no engagement right after it's published

Stop this meme, it's already stale