From trash to trash LMAO

Trash 2.0

​@@GYMMOTIVATIONN528.....i think u mean from trash to worm shit

Looks very nice actually, for a new company. I hope they stay in the market and not get discouraged. More companies in the market is better.

​​@@GYMMOTIVATIONN528if this is trash, what car do you have? Poarcha?

👋🏼 yup 😂

Yeah

Yeah

Yesss

That call is shocking, if a car is released publicly, it should be reviewed in its current state. Why was it released buggy with an ‘expected 2.0 update’? Fisker got caught with their balls hanging, and rightly so 😂 well done MKBHD

People already do it!

thats what new cars are now. they dont sell cars without computers anymore and those computers rarely have working software before theyre sold. its just like gaming actually lol

And they have subscription services on the car as well. Next up we will be getting some XP boosters and battle passes as well.

Fuq that

Yea screw that i am never gonna buy a car that needs updates for its software fuck that. I don't mind EV's but to me they have just gone to overdesign zone hard with most of them where only EV's that i would actually drive are the senior scooter three wheelers or EV's from early 90s all of them are just way too filled with useless tech that just ups the price and i would never ever even use but the car would still have to have all of it in working condition because of yearly inspection.

The problems are not physical, so they can be corrected after the car is out. If the problems were hardware related, it would be completely different.

@@RmnGnzlz Lmao this isn't a video game where they patch shit after you buy the product. If they're careless enough to ship bad software when you're buying it, you bet your ass they'd do it again in the future

@@turningmememachine7256 Patching after you buy the product is literally what over the air updates are kid.

⁠@@turningmememachine7256 It’s true that the software should’ve been MUCH better when they released this car but it honestly is kinda like a video game. No matter how good the software initially is it’s always going to need to be updated and get bug fixes/improvements.

​@@turningmememachine7256are you still in 2010 or something

Agree! The car actually looks awesome. It's a shame it's close to going bankrupt.

​@@dexter19885yeah, but what EV manufacturer with a possible exception of Tesla isn't? Fisker was still the best of the rest and I would hate to see them go out of business, but the financials of it are just cruel.

I also expected it to be a down right terrible product based on the chatter, but it seems to be more small nuances than major defects. But for the $70K MSRP, I can see why it's unacceptable these faults were not corrected prior to being sold to the public. The biggest fault of this vehicle...it's an EV.

Same. It looks awesome to me

It dosent feel when you are hearing but when you will use it, it surely is gonna piss you off

underrated comment.

😂

I thought that's what he was gonna say as soon as "earth" came out his mouth lol.

This should be highlighted!

They didn't have that kind of imagination.

It is actually a good statistic. I’d not buy one with below 400. I like they put the counter. Other cars has got it hidden.

Ten years? That’s optimistic 😂

@@10secondsrule A counter is fine, a limit which is what this is, is not.

32 left 😭🤣

@@TheGamingNorwegianI think they should just give you a warning popup every time you boost after 500 uses. You can still use it, but the car will inform you that it could cause damage or wear to the drivetrain and youd have to confirm that you are willing to risk that. Completely locking the you out of the feature doesn’t seem right for something that you own.

Imagine waiting for your car's DLC to drop 💀💀💀

@@ecab992they’re like “what’d you guys expect this was the beta”

it wasn't a beta, this car is for sale as is. then there will be a software update/@@anywaays6992

But the money they get is not beta money 😅

One man kills a new company

They knew they shipped a terrible product and weren't keen on a large reviewer bringing things to light. If you scour around the internet, you'll see plenty of lukewarm/bad reviews. Even the Fisker subreddit is constantly filled with posts containing gripes/issues/errors about the vehicle + not great company servicing.

Fisker has been fighting to keep any real reviewers from getting into an Ocean. I am disappointed that this review did not include him testing the Ocean on a dirt road, not one single photo exists of this so called SUV driving where an SUV is supposed to be able to go, nine months after deliveries started.

That is where they made a huge mistake! Even apple doesn't stop him from criticism

@@mtawali13 Oh come on, no one does any real criticism of Apple, if you do you don't get shipped products and don't get invites to Apple events. He may get away with a little more than the average person but he still toes the line.

​@@venom5809 agreed.

Boy, I sure do love a future of empty promises!

That's tesla's entire FSD strategy lol

best selling model of 2023! will ppl learn in 2024 or will they be crowned again?

@@ShihanQu FSD is early access. Just like when you buy an EA game on Steam, they are very clear that it's an unfinished product at the moment and you are buying in early on the development cycle. Nothing wrong with that. If you only want finished products, don't buy early access.

​​@@catbert7There is something wrong with that imo because it's a car, not a game. It should be released finished just like the plane you fly with.

you're not buying the car

Same, I don't even have a driver's license and tbh there were terms in the video I didn't even understand

​@@rigah1I definitely won't be now!

You’ll be left in the Stone Age buddy

well, the next generation might not want to drive the car at all so basic thing you accept such as: just drive the car by yourself will soon become a big no no in the future, and definitely worth getting a update for less driving = more Netflix

Horrible take.. less driving equals more Netflix Nah we want the wind in our hair and our engine roaring Not... I'm GaAaAAAAaaaAy

@@damandarin5415 my vehicles will work when others are hacked, or shut down, or have internet problems, or apps don't work, etc etc etc. There's no comparison. One is a vehicle, the other is an appliance.

@@JCredTV sounds like you use an old wind up phone instead of a smartphone because a smartphone can get hacked, shut down or have internet problems. As time progresses, these become less of an issue, and only the benefits remain. Watch how in the 50 years, these software type of cars will be prevalent. It’s the future.

Everything is in beta now. Even cars. What, you died? Sorry!

I love post launch updates. I hate that it's used to make up for unfinished software.

It started in the video game industry and then took over the auto industry like a virus

A gamified experience haha

next they'll be charging for dlc...

Eey forrest

Which means they just want to ride with the current surge in EV sales but don't really care about the customers. Hyundai and Toyota both made modifications as soon as customers and influencers made them aware of some needed features and fixes. Ford constantly rolls out OTA updates.

The review treats it like a 'normal' car, but it's really not. With so much attention given to its sustainable build and design, it is not on a level playing field. I do agree that it's not acceptable to release such buggy software but this review is questionable for its intent.

@@CathodeRaze If it can't function like a normal, fully-functional EV then it's a fail. Sure, some of his takes are his personal opinions but that doesn't change the fact that people should be able to live with this daily and they can't. Suggesting that the Ocean is somehow special or different and therefore it shouldn't be held to the same standards as other EVs makes you come across as a Fisker apologist and unable to really be objective. Fisker is selling pre-production-quality vehicles. Why? They have to. If they waited until the bugs were worked out then the company would go bankrupt before selling 1 vehicle. They took a calculated risk to try and start generating income by selling vehicles not ready for production and whether that was the right or wrong decision is up for debate, but I feel like they had no choice. Their stock is down over 94% over the past year and the company may not survive 2024. Selling pre-production-quality vehicles was a hail Mary that may bite them and just be prolonging the inevitable.

@@dieseldrax I'll reiterate that no car should be released with any dangerous issues but most have been very annoying software. He could have reviewed (much more usefully) the 2.0 upgraded car because that's what everyone will have from March onwards. I've driven the car and it's a great drive so I'm not just an apologist. What I am is an entrepreneur and a disruptor and know where Fisker comes from in a cut-throat industry full of sharks. This reviewer knew that his review would be damaging - a short-term win for him maybe but long-term pain for Fisker. I don't respect that.

amazing, one review can do that to a company, thats some trivia for you.

@@richardmartink679 that’s hilarious 😂

If that's the case, let all start reviewing more things.

No he’s not, how review was mild and didn’t actually include any driving dynamics

​@@alhampton8683 Nah theyre blaming him, the shit car is the cause but hes the blame

The life cycle of technology is faster than the time it takes to design and test a complex computer system so by the time the car is ready to go, the original software or technology is outdated

ppl accepted this way for many products since decades, and now complaining autistic about a single start up doing so. ppl also belive in Capitalism which enforce companies to go this way for financial conditions in this system. So what we should really complain about?

It's a cashflow problem. You can only produce this car at a reasonable price once you have large sales/production numbers, which needs a large investment. You're basically saying you'll outcompete all existing companies with your killer new feature --- because if it's something the others thought of, then they have the advantage of being established (in workspace, logistics, dealernetwork, troubleshooting/maintenance, ... all those things you have to start from scratch). But we don't know if your killer feature, or actually your new mixture of pros/cons (price, quality, features, style, ... ), will take off! You don't get a blank check, you need to argue for every $million investment --- but until you do the actual thing you do not know what things will cost in time and money, and something will go wrong (bad weather? bankrupt supplier?) that you cannot ask a budget for; so you are by definition short of budget. So you must buy from an established company, or find a startup with a ridiculous no-questions-ask unlimited funding billionaire supporter.

Another . method is the MVP concept, just test the core features, everything else doesn't have to be perfect, of course that's the prototype and u apply it to a select people who are aware of it, not the fucking product itself, it's happening every where now

Because millions of anxious and excited noobs are locked in a permanent buying-frenzy.

greed

company is gonna fail if this is already their attitude

@@slick3996 WSJ saying Fisker may file for bankruptcy.

You keep missing the point over and over - he was offered latest car software, chose old one intentionally to do it down. So - given that most would-be owners would never see what he’s reviewed (except the good stuff) it makes the review vindictive.

@@CathodeRaze are you a Fisker executive or investor? this story is not accurate

yeah I raised my eyebrow when he said ‘new’ because I remember coming across the Karma for the first time in my local mall and that was around 2014 I think? Looks like the company has had a lot of financial problems in the past. edit: I mean I guess it’s relatively new compared to Tesla.

Previous company was Fisker Automotive, and went bankrupt in 2014, assets sold to a Chinese company. New company is Fisker Inc started in 2016, so, do with that what you will 😂

Ok but the industry is not in the biz or making hardware and software for infotainment systems. They will get better with time.

"they will get better with time" we've been hearing that for like 10 years now @@BoondockSaintHere

Most cars are running dated SoCs to save money, like from a decade ago or more. I think Tesla is one of the few exceptions.

@@guitarazn90210 yeah that kinda is the point OP was tyring to make. We've had cheap but reasonably powerful SoCs for YEARS now yet car manufacturers end up using the slowest one they can find

Cut costs.

DLC for your car

"Please say 'McDonalds' to refill one burst"

😂😂

I really hope this is a joke

@@Alex_Martin_ It is but unfortunately with todays reality not a far fetched one. We dreamed of flying cars and instead we got pre-release cars that can't be touched by mechanics that need 2-3 years patches to get decent with microtransactions and blue screens and OS learning just to turn the air-con on or lower the radio volume. Sad state of affairs really.

On the trim being reviewed at least, there are compartments under the front seats that work great as glovebox substitutes.

You can have more added. They want to check systems in the car after 500 uses to make sure everything is good before the owner has more boosts added.

“For only $200 a year you can upgrade to the unlimited launch package” -fisker eventually, probably

​@@jilliannequiroz4310does it cost money ?

Didn't the Nissan GTR have a similar counter?

I think you're also living on a different planet o: owning something in this day and age doesn't exist anymore~ you're just allowed to use it.

Why Ketchup... Sweet N Sour so much better :/

that stuff is disgusting

Dumbledore gonna have to move the tray to another room

No one gives a f about your opinion

oh hey leo, thanks for making my childhood cool man

Or when you use generative AI to create a CarOS

This feels more like someone took the normal "We'll fix it after launch" approach I see in software and tried applying it to a physical item. This is either the devs running out of time, or not having the QA and resources they need.

​@@Internatubenot possible.

wow

It's say that's quite childish

all i could htink about. wonder what car he had

TOP OF THE HOLY TOTEM!!

reference od the year right here

RI RI RI RICH FOREVER A MILLION WAS NOT THE QUOTA

Not a Tesla in Chill mode

not my honda. eco mode sucks

That's not true in any vehicle whatsoever. Do you even drive bro?

same with my bmw. even when I put it in eco mode and it has lazy throttle response, if I floor it it will deliver full power

Yeah that’s what I’d expect, for safety reasons. Flooring it is a sign that there’s an emergency and you need all the power 🤣 That’s what my electric Mini does, anyway.

Same

The Streisand Effect

How would you like it if you as a software engineer had spent the last 6 months on your baby sorting out all the issues only for some influencer to ignore the offer to see your hard work?

@@CathodeRaze you’re a dummy. The engineer came out plenty of time and never fixed the issue. All the sudden they get a bad review and they send out their senior engineers to fix it. Don’t be silly

@@CathodeRaze ill be ashamed. Ill be mad at whoever greenlit it to be sold publicly. Last thing id feel tho is anger towards the reviewer. If we watch the same video, it’s clear that the ‘influencer’ was trying his hardest to find a silverlining on this car. If anything, the ‘influencer’ went easy on it.

A "big" KZfaqr should get the attention of fisker hopefully and they should fix these issues ASAP

Yeah watching this review. I do still kind of want an Ocean. This thing could be incredible.

Even if it had launched without issues, Fisker is not in a good financial position and is likely to go under. Magna (their manufacturing partner) will be fine and probably sees the writing on the wall.

I came to the comments Just to see one of these comments lol

​@@ChipsCSTcan't believe you paid for a Fisker

😂😂😂

Hello darkness my old friennnnddd

Very true, who in their right mind listens to the radio??😂

My amp went to shit in my model 3 at some point. And same 🤣🤣

@@armandoperalta6931 buy a boom box for backup 😂

Maybe for being a bit shady?

@@Kodakicy wouldn't be the first time. they went under after the fisker karma in 2014. the ocean only exists under the fisker name because henrik fisker loves losing money and decided to start a second car company also named fisker in 2016. technically the karma and the ocean are made by different companies.

@@lbgstzockt8493 i wouldn't even say that. i don't think they really do anything malicious, they just aren't very good at making cars.

They definitely have a reputation... just not a positive one :D

But he designed the Z8, so still one of the greatest people in the car industry!

The nearly invented the electric car, and the solar roof on the cars. Long before Tesla was an embryo, Fiskar had teenage EV’s. 😂

@@Colorado_Chris I wouldn't say nearly, considering the first electric car was invented in the 1880's

$0.09 today

@@bkkmj4250 Now is delisted from the NYSE.

@@Colorado_Chris Yea no, they werent even close to "inventing" the first electric car. Many many companies had done it before them. The Karma was also a very dangerous vehicle known to catch fire.

I think the guy said he wasn’t a mouthpiece referring to himself and he was an service engineer.

@@allenseeallendo5844he said “he’s just a mouthpiece” and called him “some kid”

@@allenseeallendo5844no no no watch the video he called mk a mouthpiece

⁠@@allenseeallendo5844no he call Mk that

Mouthpiece isn't an insult. It just means someone who voices out information.

exactly lol i would use that tray all the time

That tray is an awesome idea, I hope more cars will have it. TIME TO EATTTT BRO

To be fair the glovebox missing doesn’t matter to me as much in 2024 what do people even keep in there anymore ? I have like paper copies of car repair work and registration paperwork but all of that is digital anyways I would rather have that tray 100%

@@whoareyou60Guns

@@whoareyou60gun :P Also registration and insurance is better to have physically, it can't run out of battery and cops will like it better. I also keep a little thing that reads the fault codes of my vehicle, and an actual pair of gloves (wow, imagine lol) and an ice scraper in mine. Storage in vehicles, especially something as ubiquitous as a glovebox, is a wierd thing to remove. Especially in an electric car, where less room is taken up by the motor and battery than is taken up by an engine, gas tank, and transmission. Oh plus, you could keep the globebox and just have a tray extend out of it or above it. Wouldn't even take up that much extra room. The tray is nice tho.

tbh they fixed a lot of the original issues now

​@brightsunsingh so everyone is allowed to fix their issues? Car manufacturing is not easy. Ford has over 100 years and still makes errors. People make KZfaq videos like it's gospel. Watch the videos and the title is click bait.

@@wavecopper1 It still has the original issue though - the cost.

Ouch

Right? This isnt even a terrible car. Just maybe some quirks and early software

Calling the Model 3 "The Perfect Starter EV" and then calling this the "Worst Car I've Ever Reviewed" is insane! Just how much Tesla stock do you own Marques?

My 2011 honda pilot touring had this option

no shit sherlock

Yeah I found that very odd to call it a quirk. Seems to me a lot of engineering went into making what is a great feature

It might also have something to do with buffeting you get in some cars when only one window is open.

Exactly. That VW infotainment is scandalously bad. I am honestly surprised noone senior was fired, like the CEO because even the most basic use of it would suggest it was not fit for launch.

By "fiddle" you mean pressing one button with your thumb?

@@venkinta3343yes that should not be a thing. You floor a pedal cause you want 100% of the car on your back that’s it, no extra steps if you are in an emergency situation

Totally agree with this. Or, just always leave it on sport or whatever and only floor it when you need it. "Eco" mode is just keep your foot out of it.

Quite concerning that Marques wants to handicap his performance on the public highways because he wants to "Chill". Yes, I have my car in Eco mode permanently, it runs on two cylinders when I'm cruising at certain revs/speed without change, but I can floor it and the power will be there just like whenever I need it. I reckon he'd realise the stupidity of what he said if we pointed out that in Chill Mode, the brakes would be capped too, so that emergency stop requires you to fiddle with a button and cycle menu.

yeah lets just get rid of driving modes so all cars use max fuel, and you cant turn down acceleration, like valet mode

BMW gave up on the subscription model

@@dcsharp13qyes but Audi still has it😂

I think the boost thing should be limited to 2times per day or something and not a total one 🤷‍♂

😂 that sucks. Hopefully Audi drives protest that nonsense

Tesla sucks, sorry to disappoint. BYD is eating their lunch.

Yep

Yep 🤣

I feel like that guy was just trying to fullfill a work order but he came off like a hit man.

what happened?

Yurrrr.

Lmao

it needs an Olso mode to complement its California mode

Your neighbor probably butt-unlocked the car with the FOB in their pocket. I've seen this several times with newer cars. Sometimes it pops the trunk as well, super annoying, and a security risk.

Not that bad, some EVs are not even able to get the doors open since the door handles got frozen. Apparently, this car does not have such issue.

EVs are shit in really cold climates no matter what brand we are talking about. Imagine a proper snowstorm that blocks traffic in the middle of nowhere? Batteries will run out and everyone stuck is seriously fucked.

I believe we need to hold back with the criticisms and give the Fisker Ocean a chance. We will soon be dealing with BYD electric cars from China and Tesla has priced themselves out of existence.

You can probably get a subscription plan, $110 a month for all the boost you want.

Hyper mode is a performance model y. Boost is something extra and you can show friends.

@@garetht677 sure but just a count would be fine in that case. He also said life of the vehicle not battery.

Insane? It's insane it even has that insane boost launch. It's a freaking bone they're throwing you. They could just remove it, not have to worry about the wear and warranty and still sell a crazy fast car.

You really don't need the boosts. All the power you need is in the other driving modes.

I have to wonder why he didn't turn on the radio

If I can't play my music then I better drive home in silence 😂

@@MikeDawson1 bc the radio is trash

@@davidarcher8126 tbh I just play the music from my phone

reminds me of trying to pair with my 2015 honda civic. still to this day i use aux because the pairing works only half the time, and when i get it to work it has a noticeable 2-3 second delay

Exactly correct. If you want economy you don't FLOOR IT.

I would have considered it to be more of a comfort than a safety feature. I drive a BMW i4M50, which has a dual motor setup and 4 drivemodes. In eco-pro mode only the rear engine is on, in comfort mode both engines are used but limited to around 85% of the maximum power, sport mode is the same but different suspension setup, only in sport boost mode you can use 100% of the maximum power. Which means you would need to constanty switch between eco-pro and comfort or sport if you need more acceleration for overtaking and such. That is quite annoying, so I only use comfort for normal roads or sport boost on the autobahn. Having the option to drive in eco-pro and getting full power when flooring the pedal like the fisker seems like a more comfortable solution.

​@@Genesis19623Of course it is a German who drives a BMW 😂 Das Auto!! 😊

It could be both. Having drive by wire opens up a bunch of possibilities for control response but also opens up a lot of design questions about user experience and safety. It's interesting to see how different design teams tackle the problem. @@Genesis19623

@@HueghMungusDas Auto is VW tho?

Us devs hate it even more than you QA people do. This happens when mgmt comes up with ridiculous timelines and refuses to delay, resulting in releasing half-baked shit cuz the investors need their money!!! Multi-industry standard at this point and it's pathetic

Especially at a price tag of almost 40k

I test drove one with the buggy software. It's a great drive solid build and I'd rather have it with bugs as part of the 'movement' than wait for it all to be ironed out just perfect. Fisker's service has also not been mentioned but have been very attentive to owners with issues.

The only really "minor" issue is the solar roof monitoring. I'd forget about it and wouldn't care. But the other ones? Those are actual asset swap videogame bugs.

​The one he drove is like $70k!

What's worse is that those tray table things could be installed in the seat gap. There's always filler space there... that place pens and french fries always find. A solution that covers that space would be interesting, and solve the "seat position" issue because it's attached to the seat rather than the center console.

Still way better than the interior of the cyber truck. From heads up display, physical controls, working back window and rear view mirror, no janky front windshield with huge corner blindspots. Tray is awesome idea. They both share the tiny mirror though. And lack of glovebox is bad. Outside this car is gorgeous. Although that's subjective. Watching his review of the cybertruck and then this makes me think he's a Tesla shill. Cybertruck is objectively worse from a design standpoint (functionally and aestethically). Software updates need to happen for this vehicle obviously. And thats unacceptable, but the issues shown were fairly minor. And sounds like most are/have alrdy been fixed. Screen takes 3 seconds to flip? My phone does too. Sometimes it doesn't flip at all. Complaining about having to keep foot on the brake like it's a deal breaker? Come on, man. Meanwhile tesla praised while saying FSD is imminent for nearly a decade and charging 10-15k for it on every car. FSD is not coming. Tesla charging people for stuff they dont deliver is a huge part of the business. Not to mention the cybertruck is 2 years late, 20k more than advertised, and they've only managed to push out 1k vehicles so far. Oh I forgot, those late, higher cost vehicles don't come with basics like the hubcaps they've been advertising. So pretty questionable giving Tesla a pass to roll out physical parts of the "truck" like the top light, hubcaps, extra battery (say goodbye to half of the trunk space that's already smaller than some compact cars), basic coating to prevent rusting (or $5k surcharge lol) after delivering the vehicle (how long after is not clear). Oh, not to mention the software patches Tesla also rolls out - not actual FSD though. Oh, and don't mention the pedestrians killed already.

You would think after seeing the trends and how this f's up releases those people would learn their lesson but I guess not. I guess sometimes the workers just overwork themselves or just produce excellence by a mix of skill and luck and they get away with short production cycles enough to not get the point.

I'm a game dev and yeah this absolutely screamed "launch now, patch later" mentality. It's part of the twisting nest of thorns that is slowly choking the life out of the game industry, and I'm sad (though not at all surprised) to see it getting it's hooks into automotive now that's it's so software focused. Hopefully they learn better lessons than we did; I feel like the average soccer mom is gonna be MUCH more turned off of spending $30k+ on a buggy mess of a vehicle they expect to drive for 10 years than the average gamer would on spending $60 on a crappy game.

You aren't wrong. But when you are dealing with Startups and Funding, "get this to market now" can be part of the Make/Break of a company. If their issues were primarily software related, then they know they can address that along the way. But if it's a hardware issue, that can tank them in the long run. So you know where all the primary focus and funding goes too. Companies do forget that software is important but it takes teams of people to get there. But companies don't see software or IT development as well funded as it should be.

Or better yet, make sure you have enough money to bring it to market and shut your mouth until you know it's ready.. So sick of hearing marketing hype about things that are years and years away from being ready

That's because it's based on failed technology. Having a battery sealed into the car so you have to sit and wait while it get's recharged, is as stupid as driving a gasoline powered car, and then having to go to a refinery and wait while they manufacture the gasoline to refuel it. EV's should have been designed to exchange standardized battery packs at service stations, and the consumer gets charged for the energy which has been used up to that point; the ' used battery pack' gets exchanged for a fully charged one, which should only take a minute, with the battery pack on a sliding rack under the car that connects to the vehicle with bayonet connectors. In and out of the service station in minutes or even seconds. but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, we have to cowtow to the rich vehicle designers who want to maintain a steady state of their own proprietary designed batteries that have to be recharged at a 'recharging station' of their own design, so they can continue to get richer, meanwhile the consumers get stuck twidling their dick waiting for their cars to recharge, sometimes going up in flames because it necessitates a 'quick charge' state in those onboard batteries, resulting in fires.

I thought the same thing😂Those are two colors you never want to see when driving a car.

Seriously, that's intolerable.

They've actually been around for awhile

Not every contry use that conbination of colors though and/or have police cars hanging on every corner. Here it's just automatic speed/infraction control by radar and camera and you get the ticket in the "mail". If you don't pay it doesen't end up in court but is just deducted from your sallary or pension. (and the busted taillight situation is a limited situation because of mandatory 2year inspection after 6years of age)

@@Tharkz "Not every country use that combination of colors".. You haven't traveled.. its either those colors or red.. its all the same, and this is for an AMERICAN market so how is your point valid?

Or simply titling the video the way he did for clicks. It's very intent based. This guy's review, which sounded more. Positive than negative, hinged in bad software. Basically Tesla MO for more than a decade. He's a Tesla simp... Nuff said

Yeah, I came here because of the noise in the media. The review is completely fine, the title is click bait. Demanding to wait for a magical '2.0 update' is completely unreasonable however. If they have released the product for customers to buy, that is what should be reviewed, not some promised future dream. And I learned I will never buy this car, as it has way too many technical gismoz that are so custom, they are gonna be really expensive to repair when they stop working. It's none the less impressive if they managed to release this car if it lasts long and the driving is good.

@@Growlizing it drives like a dream. It's build solidly. The software got better 2.0. Wait a year and dive in... But the car is smooth as butta and turns a lot of heads

@@sohailakmal3384he was very negative about the cyrbertruck, you are just making stuff up

@@johnramos8703 that vehicle is not meant to be taken seriously. If you have 100k plus to throw away... You're OK with wasting money. Way better cars out there for that price tag. Also, this dude ain't a car reviewer. I watched a couple of reviews of his after the fisker review... They're weak. He doesn't know how to review them. And I'm not mad. I don't live in the internet. I think it's funny how overblown Wall Street and simps worked to tank fisker... Albeit with valid concerns. I recall Tesla going through a lot of this over the past decade. This is nothing new for early adopters

Simplified usage is what I also think should be the goal here

perfectly said @dmoster

There's clearly a good and a bad way to do it. Tesla did it right, fisker did not. Idk if this can be fully attributed to the approach.

@@kiikoh it sure is scary for the makers, investors and consumers(vehicle owners) to find them self in this situation.

Yeah car companies are drooling over the idea of being able to have a standardized EV chassis for all their vehicles and then "define" each specific car/SUV/Truck via software. Everything from the handling characteristics, performance, features....etc. Where the battery sled or Skateboard only differs by the number of electric motors and size of the battery pack. And then you just plot down whatever body type/chassis on top of that as standardized "sled".

And that's today. Give it like 3 years, and it'll feel like it was built in the stone age.

@@DaneRossenrode First time I sat in a tesla I was surprised that screens in cars can actually be non-garbage lol.... still weird i had to use it to activate the wiper

@@kipchickensout Don't know when you sat in a Tesla but you can activate and control wiper settings without the screen since a long time.

@@Tschacki_Quacki Like a year ago, Model 3 and Y

@@kipchickensout I don't know the timeline for all the small details they changed with the additional wiper controls so definitely possible that it wasn't like that a year ago but anyway: When you press the wiper button, the wiper options pop up on the screen but today you can control those with the left scroll wheel on the steering wheel too. They added a little visual animation that demonstrates the scroll wheel controls when you pop up the wiper options but I'm sure that animation wasn't there a year ago.

Nope. He doesn’t care to do what’s right, he cares about having a sensational video that gets views to make money.

He did an update on the mach e after a big software update which led me to purchase the car

@@Luciferisking512imagine trying to vilify Marques bro… 😂

😂​@@RomanBishop2K

​@@Luciferisking512devil's advocate: with constant software updates providing more and more functionality to vehicles, as well as all kinds of Internet connected tech, how do you define when tech is "done". If Marques extends this courtesy to Fisker, does he do it for every new car coming out? Does he wait months until it's "done", just to miss out of the viewership and revenue? You can throw that accusation at a lot of KZfaqrs, maybe even justifiably so, but their time is valuable. Schedules are very tight. Pushing this project back on the promise of possible software updates in the future could fuck up his whole production schedule and might not even benefit the original review of the Ocean in the first place. Most reviewers go off the rule: "If it's ready for the consumer, it's ready to review." If you felt confident enough in your product to bring it to market, it's better be fucking ready to roll. The car has been on market since June of 2023. No fucking excuse, they should have had it fixed already. Should Marques come back and review it if the updates are substantial? Maybe? But again, time trade offs. He could put that time to re-reviewing a car that probably nobody cares about, or a new product more people would be interested in. I get where you're coming from (I think) in terms of desiring accountability and accuracy from people who give factual information about expensive tech products. But let's set some reasonable expectations.

I hope solar cars start becoming more popular!

Not just that, but to help with just general phantom drain especially in colder climates

There is a reason they are hardly used on electric cars. They are not big enough to provide any meaningful amount of power for how much they cost to manufacture. 2-3 miles of range a day, and I'm assuming that is only in perfect conditions, is almost nothing. Car companies would rather spend that money on a slightly bigger battery.

You know sunroofs/moonroofs have existed for a long time. My none electric car has a sunroof.

Yes, I think this is the real reason the car does not display stats on solar charge...it would be laughable and folks would realize it's a gimmick.

So you think the Ford model T for example, had no issues whatsoever when it first came out? That’s not how it works. A lot of things usually need updates after being released no matter what it is.

@@CaliGirlJade ????

@@CaliGirlJade I can guarantee you the Ford Model T had zero software bugs and never got any software updates

Literally everything software based does that approach, from video games to phones to cars. Every EV out there has had many, many updates. They also have all had recalls. All except Fisker that is, with six months of customer deliveries and not a single recall yet. Most of them get their first recall within a couple months.

@@Pasi123 and I can guarantee you the 1908 Ford Model T is not the exact same as the 1927 Ford Model T. My point being products will always go through updates, yeah, this car had a lot of bugs but it’s the first model, the car will be eventually updated like other products, software update, or a physical update to the car etc.

It does seem kinda useful if you're eating, or want to have a laptop open when charging though, so I kinda like it. Though with the odd choice not to fit a glovebox, you do kinda need the space though.

Not only is the idea questionable, the most insane part is how weak it is. So weak that they have to put a warning label on it. I could probably justify giving up the space if it was a high quality and strong tray. But its not. I’m a big fan of quirky things but, I genuinely can’t understand what the benefits are from most of these quirks.

It's the Wawa hoagie tray option.

if my memory from my time at ford serves me right, ford has something very similar in a lot of their higher end truck trims. i also recall there being a part number for something called a "tampon holder" (not joking) that you can order to put in where the tray would normally go.

@@WARnTEA 11 pounds is quite a lot for a tray to hold. Most airline trays cannot hold that much.

he said the worst car HE ever reviewed. I've watched tons of his reviews, I trust and value his very informed opinion, and this man is so fair and optimistic in his delivery that i'd be willing to guess this car is probably worse then he let on. The fact that Aston Martin has any connection with this vehicle is totally irrelevant. What ever DNA was carried over from previous iterations does not address the present needs and desires of present day consumers. as for being an M16 spy?.....seriously?

Current Aston Martin Vantages use Mercedes electronics which work as well as anything out there. I have never had any problems with my 2022 Vantage key fobs. It is a fun car to drive and handles much better than the previous version. It is much easier to see out of than most cars.

haha yeah I agree, Marques just haven't reviewed a Vinfast car

Fisker has made it quirky for the sake of being quirky, they will never sell many, hardly any compared to Tesla because Tesla’s are sensible sorted and work every time

@@davedyer3654 I won't claim Tesla as sensible, they are simply experienced

By now you must be a great grandfather.

I can not like your comment as it is at 69, but yeah..mine was in 1996.., ;-)

HEYOOO!

@@johnmarten4184 Why? Could have been only yesterday 😉

LOVE IT!!!!

I was thinking the same thing. My Zoe and Mg has the same thing, I just assumed all cars have it.

Going full power makes sense, going full power after a 2 second delay makes no sense.

@@Starblockss Maybe it's for all these bad drivers that mistake throttle with brake pedal 💀

💯 Agree, I dislike the Chill mode in my Model 3 for this reason. If I have an emergency pass at full throttle, it's got no kick down speed.

Wait til states like California(and I’m sure eventually others) mandate manufacturers to limit the max speed based on posted speed limits…. I saw an article that CA is already trying to get this passed.

OH INDEED!

yup, and on top of this being a dishonest review (getting a used broken car with software no one was using at the time), he didn't go back to review 2.0 like he said he would.

@@JJ-yy5us Doesnt matter, you dont launch a car with software like this, you just dont. And Fisker is known for releasing unfinished products, Karma looked good but was a piece of utter shit and dangerous as its known to catch fire in not only the batteries but also the ICE. And the Emotion which Fisker took money for never even arrived. Anyone who bought this vehicle with Fisker`s history arent very good at making financial decisions.

@@TheGamingNorwegian ok and Tesla has recalled like thousands and millions of vehicles all the time over software, including auto pilot, causing a 1000 crashes (way worse in my opinion than a few annoying bugs fisker has) But hey, nobody makes a big deal a Tesla can potentially run over someone while you're in it letting it do the driving because it's justified just for being a Tesla. Just to point out the biasness. Literally no EV has ever rolled out without bugs , yet its blown up with Fisker.

@@JJ-yy5usnew video came out

Marques reviewed the 2.0 two weeks ago. Tesla is a horrible company. No sane person would ever defend Tesla. ​@@JJ-yy5us

Seems to be the case with all electric cars, really. Software fine tuning is way harder because electronics can pretty much do anything you ask and it’s very easy to implement lots of stuff and then have it a mess instead of going with a little and be able to refine it.

Yeah, his name is Henrik Fisker

investors must be pleased

I believe that is accurate af. The decision meeting might have gone like: ok, it's crap right now ,but can we solve everything afterwards via ota? Gimme a yes or no. - noooooaaayyyeeess sir, boss sir.

Absolutely, I was part of a suppliers development team working on the fisker. Henrik said at kickoff he thinks that cars should be developed like mobile phones - in 18 months. That didn't age that well... 😅

😂

Death verdict

This guy is nitpicking, the bones are there and the button on the steering wheel is annoying if it changes when turning but apart from that a software update fixes everything, hardly the worst car ever or he is so young he doesn’t remember when the first teslas were released and all the software update needed

​@@user-fm3pw4jk2x Dude is only 30 my guy. I'm one year younger and never been in a tesla , so Don't blame us.