LMS Black 5 44806, WHAT A MACHINE!!!!

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5 ай бұрын

Santa Special at NYMR hauled by LMS Black 5 44806 and Class 25 D7628, filmed at Grosmont and Goathland 23rd December 2023
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@MrSolodriver 5 ай бұрын

Steam engines are noisy, dirty, inefficient, polluting magnificent monsters. And I absolutely adore them!! Great video btw.

@annbeirne9583 5 ай бұрын

Prefer steam to the stink of diesel, and I adore them too😊💖

@svensvensen8406 5 ай бұрын

Drop "magnificent" from the description and you have a perfect description of the person attempting to steal back America's Whitehouse. VOTE BLUE!

@JamesFolkers 5 ай бұрын

@@annbeirne9583And what exactly are they burning to create the heat needed to create the steam?

@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 4 ай бұрын

@JamesFolkers: Well it certainly isn't diesel! You clearly know nothing about rail steam traction!

@MrFsandt 2 ай бұрын

@@JamesFolkers Carvão! 🔥👍

@Kevin-mx1vi 5 ай бұрын

I love black 5s. Brings back childhood memories of my granny taking me to the nearby railway line and the drivers waving at me as they passed. 😊

@leecarlson9713 5 ай бұрын

My grandmother’s home in Eau Claire, WI, USA, was one removed from the tracks. We would stand at the end of her driveway, and wave to the engineers as they went past. I was such a regular, they always waved back at me! Good memories from my very early childhood 😁

@citylimits8927 5 ай бұрын

As an American who enjoys vintage trains, that ride through the Yorkshire countryside powered by that vintage locomotive looks like a very scenic and picturesque ride! I’m glad to see that Britain treasures its railway history as much as we Americans treasure our railroad (that’s what we call them in the States) history!

@Dreadtower 5 ай бұрын

Yeah. And from here I’ve enjoyed watching videos posted by your heritage railways too.

@user-ix6jh8gg8m 5 ай бұрын

The journey from Pickering through the moors is quite surprising picturesque it may be but there are areas that could be from the Wild West! There is no sign of civilisation at all, except close to the permanent way, well worth a trip just for the view of a land untouched.

@ronniebiggs4026 5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it dude because the rest of the country is a 3rd world shithole

@AllenORourke1954 5 ай бұрын

From 1825 into the 1830's over here in the UK they were called railroads, where I live in the north east of England we had "The Stanhope & Tyne Railroad Company" which opened a line in 1834 past where I live, the term "railway" I believe came about during what was known here as the "railway mania" period from the 1840's when the rail companies had to pay landowners what was known as a "way leave" to cross their land, hence the term "railway" became the norm...

@acescionti711 5 ай бұрын

Unfortunately. As a fellow rail fan and steam locomotive enthusiast. I’ve found that. In fact. America does not love its rail history as much as the UK does There are a great many reasons for why I’ve come to this conclusion. And if you wish to know them I’d be happy to lay them out at a later time. But as for now. I’m pretty sure the English know what America calls its railways lol. Railway and railroad are like. Beginner 101 stuff. And if this channel was still in the starting stages then it wouldn’t have nearly as many locomotive videos on it

@roysimmons3549 5 ай бұрын

Black Fives. Superb mixed traffic locomotives.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

They are my favourite steam loco

@gilesellis8002 5 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains F 5's

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

@@gilesellis8002 5F5P 5MT

@terencebennison6275 4 ай бұрын

Grew up with black fives, my favourite loco. Never saw one as clean as this., they always had their work clothes on!

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Beautiful aren’t they 👍

@lesteraizlewood8457 4 ай бұрын

Impressive!

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Isn’t it just

@davestubbs7274 4 ай бұрын

Wow, I used to work on 44806 back in the 1980's when it was moved from Southport to the Museum of Science and Industry in Manchester. Back then it was named 'Magpie', and was regularly seen in Thames TV's kids show 'Magpie'

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

You’ll be happy to see her back up and running 👍

@stevecurd3944 5 ай бұрын

fantastic footage,ive got a Hornby Black 5 from a trainset i used to have in the early 70's with its originally stock carriages,a beautiful engine & sits on display with my Hornby Oliver Cromwell from the 70's,thankgod these beautiful engines are kept alive

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

I couldn’t agree more, i absolutely love them, I model O gauge and I wish there was an affordable model in the scale.

@stuwalton1284 4 ай бұрын

Another excellent steam video, literally!

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Many thanks 👍

@chriswaring5565 2 ай бұрын

CAN'T BEAT THE SIGHT SOUNDS AND THE SMELL OF STEAM LOCOMOTIVES PURE NOSTALGIA

@KevsTrains 2 ай бұрын

You’re not wrong at all 👌

@nickkaye176 4 ай бұрын

The black five was a work horse of the steam locos. Used to love standing on a bridge when a steam loco went underneath. Great smell and a lovely black face to go with it. Lol.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Best memories

@bahoonies 3 ай бұрын

@nickkaye176 Me too. I loved being enveloped by smoke and that special smell as I stood on the footbridge. Then I'd go home for lunch and my mother would say, "You've been watching the trains again." "How did you know, Mum?" The reply was usually "Go and look at your face in the mirror and give it a good wash." Wonderful, happy, boyhood memories.

@Tauraco00 5 ай бұрын

Nice Kevs. Merry Christmas to you and yours🎉. All the Best for the New Year🎉🎉🎉

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Thank you and Merry Christmas to you and yours too, have a good one and all the best 🎉🎉

@richardbaldwin9502 5 ай бұрын

First time viewer really enjoyed the video looking forward to more thank you

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Many thanks Richard, welcome.

@michaelstansfield3085 5 ай бұрын

Sorry, forgot to mention, great video. Much appreciated thank you

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

You’re welcome 👍

@ridefreeuk 5 ай бұрын

One of the reasons we moved to Pickering at the other end of the line. We get the train through Grossmont where this video starts and on to Whitby regularly during the summer.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Beautiful area 👍

@user-ib1md4of8r 4 ай бұрын

The Dragon enters the mouth of hell ! With a twist in the tail. 😂 All great fun ( as the love of steam should be ! 👍

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

It really is

@69waveydavey 3 ай бұрын

Greetings from Lostock Hall, can we have it back? Black Fives Matter.

@KevsTrains 3 ай бұрын

Greetings back and no you can’t 😂😂

@eastwest1362 5 ай бұрын

crazy design to blow out all piston steam AHEAD of the loco… blinds driver from seeing ahead !

@harri8535 4 ай бұрын

The cylinder cocks are opened to vent water (condensed steam) out from the cylinders after being stationary. They are closed after a while.

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

I believe in this situation the driver screws his eyes whiile gripping the steering wheel firmly, if anything looms out of the mist he swerves to one side?

@danieldonaldson8634 5 ай бұрын

My Father, arriving in England in 1949, said the trains looked like toys to him and he was there to work on the Deltic design team at Napier, from Canada. I see what he meant. Adorable. Probably would be a better look if the steam unit was at the front of the train....

@ianallen8305 5 ай бұрын

Like toys maybe for a small island. But perfect presentation not many had the valves and pipes on show like NA loco,s they were also a lot faster than most with high speed lines from the 1930,s on. Did your DD leave any photos from his time with Napier.

@jimmyjam4371 5 ай бұрын

What a beast!

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Isn’t she just!!

@alan_mythicalgnome 5 ай бұрын

I love the black fives.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

They are a fantastic locomotive

@bobcannell7603 5 ай бұрын

And the little original G Stephenson horse railway tunnel pre steam. This is a Very old line

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

That's why we preserved it.

@user-gk8gg1zt7l 5 ай бұрын

Nice video, likes from me.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Many thanks 🙏

@hhottechnologies2651 5 ай бұрын

You are supposed to blow out the cylinder drains before you move off.

@jackdavidson2612 5 ай бұрын

Yes, to start, the regulator has to be opened. This is generally when the taps are closed.

@MrDibbsey 5 ай бұрын

How would you do that when the steam only enters one side of the piston at any one time?

@TheClockwise770 4 ай бұрын

Excellent video, thank you Considering that Crompton was helping , I cannot see why he needed that amount of steam pressure.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Thank you for your kind words

@grahamhall8249 5 ай бұрын

I'm sure that some drivers deliberately put that much steam out so that you can't video them!

@gainsbourg66 5 ай бұрын

It's pretentious. Happening too often lately.

@gilesellis8002 5 ай бұрын

travelling through England, Scotland, France, Switzerlandand Italy through the 50's 60's 70's None of the Engines DROWNED in Steam before Leaving, but now they Do ? even at 12.35 - 14.18, makes you wonder who's editing ?

@simon-oy6um 5 ай бұрын

Oh the days when a train journey was a special event 😊

@user-ou8rf5tc4s 3 ай бұрын

I have to chuckle at people who complain about a locomotive making a lot of steam as it passes by a throng of fans who have come out to see it run! This is no longer a "working" locomotive! There are no longer "pencil pusher" corporate accountants to throw a "hissy fit" about the waste of coal. This is now a "fan" locomotive, and "wasting" coal on producing extra steam to thrill the fans means more fans, more folks that will want to ride behind it, and more money in the coffers to keep it running. If you can't understand the philosophy behind keeping such a beautiful piece of machinery running, go talk to a young child who is watching, spellbound, as she rumbles by!❤😂

@KevsTrains 3 ай бұрын

Absolutely fantastic words 👍👍

@danielvanrooyen2785 5 ай бұрын

Finally, at 13:20, a view of the steam locomotive pulling the train. Also a rather disappointing start with the steam locomotive hidden in a cloud of steam. Pity!

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

All part of it 👍

@055deltic 5 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains Not so, some use of the ejectors when starting is good practice - lap and lead steam, not lap and lead water! But look at any original footage from BR steam days and this release was kept to a minimum. Poor fireman didn't want all his hard work vented! My grandad was a driver at Polmadie depot and he told us how they were all trained and observed not to be exhausting smoke or steam unnecessarily. Perhaps current drivers think it is atmospheric or romantic to have the loco enveloped in clouds of steam? But its certainly not good practice

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

@@055deltic I agree, I understand the need to clear water etc to protect cylinders, my dad was ex BR steam fireman and driver, maybe preservation railways do it to keep damage to a minimum due to repair costs.

@Hard-Boiled-Bollock 5 ай бұрын

Welcome back sleeping beauty

@1961kickboxer 3 ай бұрын

She’s so powerful

@KevsTrains 3 ай бұрын

She’s a beast

@Gary-cvr23 19 күн бұрын

They have now banned blowing the whistles leaving grosmont witch is stupid really great vid btw

@KevsTrains 19 күн бұрын

Why have they banned it?

@Gary-cvr23 19 күн бұрын

@@KevsTrains people complaning that its too loud asked if i could blow the whistle he said he would have said yes if it werent for this new rule

@KevsTrains 19 күн бұрын

@@Gary-cvr23 that is absolutely ridiculous

@Gary-cvr23 19 күн бұрын

@@KevsTrains i know its sad too

@bahoonies 3 ай бұрын

What's that, Mum? It's Rudolph the red-nosed train, dear.

@KevsTrains 3 ай бұрын

Great for the kids 👍

@bahoonies 3 ай бұрын

@KevsTrains Absolutely. And for 71 year old kids like myself lol. Getting children interested in steam locomotives is so important for the future of these wonderful, living, breathing machines. I have loved steam since I was a very small boy.

@steamgent4592 5 ай бұрын

Oh wow they got Magpie back online quickly. Now Your Marriage is Ruined didn’t waste any time! Those men lived up to their name for sure! 😂😂😂😂 Nigel Harris will be happy it’s his favorite locomotive

@jonsteadisno1 5 ай бұрын

In my younger days, Stanier 5MTs and 8Fs used to be "ten a penny," and we would barely give them a second glance unless it was a previously or rarely seen visitor. These days, I find that I go out of my way to see one. I know that the NER had a love of signalling and would erect one to cover just about any possible manoeuvre. But the NYMR seems to get a little carried away. 😊

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

The 5MT is probably my favourite steam loco along with the 9F.

@jonsteadisno1 5 ай бұрын

@KevsTrains My favourites will remain the ones that I remember the best. The Thompson B1, K1, Gresley V2, and of course, the Robinson 2.8.0 variants were mainstays of my youth. I have particular affection for K1, no.62005, which was saved by the NELPG and a long-time NYMR resident. It was based at Leeds for many years, and so, I saw it regularly in the 60s.

@EleanorPeterson 5 ай бұрын

"It's ALIVE! Mwah-hah-hah-haaaah!"😁

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

She is

@taysaround4780 4 ай бұрын

She may have no face like in the RWS, but she is alive, all engines are.

@Utubearchy 5 ай бұрын

Jumping to the 4:20 mark you can see a set of catch points on the left track at the entrance/exit of the tunnel. Why are there catch points at that location and why are the points oriented to affect movements going out of the tunnel? Just curious.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

That line runs up to the depot, I’m guessing the catch points are set in case of any runaways which would stop them going over the crossing and through the station.

@brianeynon5406 5 ай бұрын

Lovely sulzer engine note at the end .

@michaelstansfield3085 5 ай бұрын

I spent hundreds of hours watching steam engines set off and there were never clouds of steam ejected ahead like this. Is it some new phenomena?

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

I don’t know why it’s done to be honest

@keithtanner2806 5 ай бұрын

It has become an unnecessary ritual across the UK - along with the infernal “dangling diesel” 👿

@davidtalbot941 5 ай бұрын

It's necessary to open the cylinder cocks, but the current trend seems to be to do so for far longer than actually required. I suppose that it is supposed to look "spectacular", but what actually happens is that it hides the locomotive at the time when it is working hardest and so would look quite spectacular anyway.

@michaelstansfield3085 5 ай бұрын

@@davidtalbot941 Thanks David, I suspected it was 'for show'. Agree, it does detract from overall effect.

@Jag-Soft 5 ай бұрын

I was told once it’s because they end up sat around for long periods of time. specially in colder weather (or like now where it was being pulled back by diesel) cylinders cool down a lot more then they would in normal service so water builds up a lot faster. Keeping them open longer heats it all back up again so no risk of water damaging anything.

@gainsbourg66 5 ай бұрын

Hope BR number will be restored. I don't like visiting heritage railways and seeing engines with names and numbers that mean nothing to those who remember them from BR days. I believe that far more heritage railway visitors are drawn in when this is the case.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Smoke box door is displaying 44806 so I believe this will be what the cab sides display also.

@mattlander9119 5 ай бұрын

It's just returned from overhaul so isn't fully painted. Either they planned to use it during the Christmas season like this or had to use it because another loco failed.

@andysnashall6140 5 ай бұрын

Such a shame the green cupboard was growling on the rear!

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Still nice to see them working though

@peterheath9002 4 ай бұрын

starts with diesel at rear then it's on the front then black 5 is on the rear running backwards! what is gong on?

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

It’s very simple, it departs along the section of line to where it stops, the diesel engine then pulls it back.

@peterheath9002 4 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains that explains nothing! where abouts do the locos change position? for instance?

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

@@peterheath9002 the locos don’t change position, that’s why one minute the steam loco is leading, then the next the diesel is. They leave Grosmont station with the steam loco leading and the diesel on the rear, it gets to its destination, where the diesel loco then tows it back to Grosmont station, which is why the diesel is then on the front and the steam loco is on the rear. Hope that makes it more clear for you.

@peterheath9002 4 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains not really!

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

@@peterheath9002 what aren’t you understanding?

@michaeltaylor1869 5 ай бұрын

Nice video Kev very good camera work as usual I am really enjoying your lovely videos and camera work keep your lovely camera work up I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on KZfaq also a merry Christmas and a happy new year to you best wishes Philip xx

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Thank you Philip, the next video will be later today, Merry Christmas and a happy new year too 🎉

@user-qe4sx4lr8q 4 ай бұрын

It’s done to blow out any excessive water lifted over, which could threaten to blow off a cylinder cover, break a cylinder or bend a rod. HOWEVER, in steam days, I recollect that the cocks, which were open when the locomotive was standing for a while, were closed much sooner than is customary now.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Yes, left open for quite a long time now.

@stephencope7178 5 ай бұрын

Why has it now become the norm to empty half of the boiler before starting off and depriving the cylinders of oil?

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Really don’t know, on the second run they weren’t opened at all

@gainsbourg66 5 ай бұрын

It's a growing fashion - which could prove dangerous in the long run. The driver's view of the track ahead is completely obscured, and there could be a foolish tourist wandering around, or other obstruction.

@mattlander9119 5 ай бұрын

If it's the first time of the day the cylinders will be cold so *maybe (I don't know) it's railway rules to do so

@MrDibbsey 5 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains Not needeed as by then the loco had warmed up.

@MrDibbsey 5 ай бұрын

@@gainsbourg66 It's not a fashion it's good practice to prevent damage to a cold engine.

@stephenselby4252 4 ай бұрын

I used to travel regularly by stream in the Uk. What’s with all the excess steam? Never used to be like that.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Believed to protect cylinders following previous damage

@keithspillett5298 3 ай бұрын

Great video, but suggest you don't 'pump' the zoom so much

@KevsTrains 3 ай бұрын

Just trying to get the best shots, otherwise you’re looking at something in the distance 👍

@rodperrin2713 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely no need to keep the taps open for that length of time. Any steam that had evaporated would be long gone in second.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

I think everyone is in agreement with that

@LimeyTX 5 ай бұрын

I grew up going by steam train from Weymouth to Dorchester in Dorset every day so this was very nostalgic. But why is there also a diesel locomotive at the opposite end of the train?

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

If you watch the full video, you’ll see the diesel is simply to pull the set back into Grosmont on it return leg as there’s no time to allow for changing ends (running round) in the timetable.

@MrDibbsey 5 ай бұрын

There's time but not track, the train reverses mid section during santa operation, and pushing the coaches backwards is not permitted with passengers on. @@KevsTrains

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

@@MrDibbsey thank you, didn’t realise there was a loop where they stopped with the Santa specials 👍

@MrDibbsey 5 ай бұрын

There isn't a loop, thats my point. And because there isn't, you need a loco on the rear to draw the train back down the hill again.@@KevsTrains

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

@@MrDibbsey that’s what thought, that’s why I’ve said about having the loco on the rear for hauling back.

@orgcoast5990 5 ай бұрын

I love the old steamers. Having the DE grab them around spoils the image.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

I know what you mean

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

The diesel on the back is not there to annoy you, it is there as the Santa Special trains go from Grosmont to Fen Bog which lacks run round facilities. The simplest way to operate is to have a loco at each end of the train, steam loco pulls out, diesel loco takes the train back to Grosmont.

@stevemumbling7720 2 ай бұрын

How do they get that fantastic finish on the loco, is it sprayed or brushed on?

@KevsTrains 2 ай бұрын

Normally brushed on

@stevemumbling7720 2 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains Wow! True craftsmen. Thanks Kev.

@KevsTrains 2 ай бұрын

@@stevemumbling7720 very welcome

@rudycarlson8245 5 ай бұрын

Is this engine, Eric Tracy? I know it says Rudolph in the video, but it looks awfully familiar!

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

No, this is 44806 which has just completed overhaul and brought back into service.

@rudycarlson8245 5 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains thanks for the info

@iandocwra1169 4 ай бұрын

Not really sure why the hype "Hellfire" and "Deafening" are used here - pretty standard sounds from the 'Five' - if anything rather muted compared to many performances I've witnessed.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the camera microphone muted the sound compared to what it actually was, hence the, as you say ‘hype’.

@84com83 5 ай бұрын

Is the last "wagon" an asissting diesel?

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Class 25 diesel loco on the rear, used for pulling the train back.

@johnfraser4675 5 ай бұрын

Such a shame its not in LMS livery

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

There is another one there in LMS livery, if you watch my other videos you’ll see her working hard.

@gramps6718 4 ай бұрын

I only saw the diesel😢

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Watch the full video

@robertprice7246 5 ай бұрын

How in the name of Westminster Abbey did the driver see where he was going ?

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

A very good question

@peterthornton8520 5 ай бұрын

Only saw the LMSBLACK pull the Train a short distance.Then the Pusher took over, Why didnt the LMS go the whole distance.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

When did this happen Peter, she was pulling all day yesterday up to the summit then the Class 25 pulling back from the summit to Grosmont.

@mattlander9119 5 ай бұрын

The diesel may be assisting slightly because the steam locos has just returned from overhaul so reducing the load a bit so it runs in more gently.

@claudevieaul1465 4 ай бұрын

01:57 Did someone say "Dracarys"? 🤣

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@MrPDawes 5 ай бұрын

Seemed to be losing a lot of steam there.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, a rather large blow off.

@keithtanner2806 5 ай бұрын

Why the masses of steam? It isn’t necessary, it has become a fad!😳

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

It was necessary and not a fad. That loco was not warmed through and had condensate in its steam circuit. To clear the condensate the loco has to move with the drain cocks open. By the time it got to the other end of the tunnel the condensate was cleared out and the cocks closed.

@keithtanner2806 4 ай бұрын

I fully understand that. I have driven steam in service but nowadays it is frequently both unnecessary and/or excessive. Just look around 4896 on here, it is blowing off for several minutes completely wasting steam. Incompetent firing failing to anticipate what is needed.

@gilesellis8002 4 ай бұрын

Where can one apply for Special Effects Manager ?

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

NYMR 😂😂

@MrAndysoul 5 ай бұрын

Shame the cab numbers were missing

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Won’t be long till they’re back on

@josephinebennington7247 5 ай бұрын

Right from the opening “Please mind the gap…”. When there was a real gap to mind.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Have I missed something?

@josephinebennington7247 5 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains Yes.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

@@josephinebennington7247 what is it?

@josephinebennington7247 5 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains. Up to 0.05 the huge gap for passengers to cope with between platform and footstep! “Mind the Gap” is now a cynical joke phrase to many rail passengers.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

@@josephinebennington7247 I’m with you now 😂😂

@jimwinsor8938 4 ай бұрын

Still use the semaphore over there I see.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Mainly on heritage lines, however a few mainlines do still have them.

@lennyhendricks4628 4 ай бұрын

did the UK ever have any automatic stokers?

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Not that I’m aware of, but I may be wrong.

@lennyhendricks4628 4 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains-- thanks.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

@@lennyhendricks4628 No problem at all

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

I think only 3 of the BR Standard 9Fs had mechanical stokers with archimedean screws. They were not really effective/economical for british operating conditions.

@eddjordan2399 4 ай бұрын

why the diesel on the back new safety thing?

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

It’s to haul the stock back to save running the steam loco round

@malcolmabram2957 5 ай бұрын

From this video it appears the diesel did most if the haulage. Presume 44806 stopped working. Shame. Love steam engines.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Steam hauled one way, diesel hauled back, 44806 worked perfectly all day.

@malcolmabram2957 5 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains Thanks for the explanation. I read that most steam pulled trains today, including the USA, are required to have a diesel back-up in case of breakdown.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

@@malcolmabram2957 ah yes, that’s for mainline work, this line is a heritage line, preservation if you don’t know it,

@malcolmabram2957 5 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains Thank you.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

@@malcolmabram2957 you’re welcome

@daigriffiths399 5 ай бұрын

My last steam-hauled trip on British Rail was Wolverhampton Central to Blackpool on a day trip in 1963. My young memory gives me a 4-6-0 and my adult knowledge says the size indicates a 5F, but I guess it could have been a 4F/4P. The run home was behind a diesel (Deltic?). I was NOT amused 😆

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

But what great memories non the less.

@philipbradshaw4050 5 ай бұрын

Sorry to be pedantic, but station would be Wolverhampton High Level and the diesel would be a Class 40. That was my era.!

@daigriffiths399 5 ай бұрын

@@philipbradshaw4050 Thank you!

@jackdavidson2612 5 ай бұрын

The Black 5 is a mixed traffic engine and. would generally have just a 5 or 5MT On the cab side,

@LordDustinDeWynd 5 ай бұрын

04:02 A diesel pushing the train? No wonder they blew down the tanks leaving the station, they didn't NEED any steam since it's a non-functional steamer!

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Diesel isn’t pushing.

@LordDustinDeWynd 5 ай бұрын

@@KevsTrains Not being towed, can hear generators ticking over & generating power. If not for motive power, why is it there?

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

@@LordDustinDeWynd To bring the train back from Fen Bog. The steam loco pulls the train on the outward leg, the diesel pulls the train back to Grosmont.

@LordDustinDeWynd 4 ай бұрын

@@bassetdad437 The steamer is unable to run backwards? Bummer. No wonder it's not still being used.

@pitoxnop 5 ай бұрын

I have notices how much drain cock clearing there is nowadays is that down to inexperienced drivers?

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

I’m not sure on that one

@MrDibbsey 5 ай бұрын

No, just care for old machines that we don't want to damage.

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

@@MrDibbsey I salute you Mr Dibbsey as one of the few commenjtors on here with a thinking head.

@FalconXE302 5 ай бұрын

I would tittle this video... How steam engine can ruin a great photo opportunity"...! At least we got to see the trusty diesel doing all the work at the back.

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

If you watch the full video you’ll see the steam engine

@bfcmik 3 ай бұрын

Why do drivers seem to use the cylinder cocks so much nowadays? They didn't keep them open for so long until fairly recently. I wonder if it is the retirement of the older generation of drivers retiring that has caused the change? A few seconds should be all that is required to clear the cylinders.. They should remember they are in the entertainment industry and hiding the engine behind clouds of steam deprives the viewing/paying public.

@KevsTrains 3 ай бұрын

Apparently it’s due to less maintenance than in BR days so it’s for protecting the cylinders as much as possible.

@sussexflyer6156 5 ай бұрын

How is the engine-driver supposed to view signals ahead with that mass of steam obscuring his view !!!!!

@MrDibbsey 5 ай бұрын

The taps are closed after a short while, the driver knows where the signals are so will make sure they can be seen when neccesary.

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

@@MrDibbsey Yes, in this case the driver can cleary see the starter at Grosmont station and the taps will be closed approaching Deviation shed so the next signal will be perfectly visible.

@jackdavidson2612 5 ай бұрын

Not the action of a driver in the days of steam, unless a primer or a boiler too full.

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

It was. In BR days they were able to clear out condensate between coming off shed and reaching the station. At Grosmont there is only 1/4 mile to do it.

@milehighclassics 5 ай бұрын

Wind noise

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

That’s what happens when windy and recording on a phone as I don’t have a muffed mic

@petergaskin1811 4 ай бұрын

I'm sorry to have to tell you, but Black Fives whilst, no doubt, splendid examples of steam powered locomotives are quaint, old-fashioned and awfully inefficient. There are such things as Electric Locomotives and Electric Multiple Units which can easily outpace any steam locomotive with none of the noise, painfully slow acceleration, and dust-laden fumes associated with them. I would far sooner see a BLS Re465 in action any steam engine.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Nooooo, you can’t say that, steam engines have personality characteristics and all round beautiful, I agree some ‘diesel’ locomotives are fantastic too.

@GenX-Gamore 4 ай бұрын

Like the video, But what is very distracting, the wind on the mic, While I don''t know what your using to record this video, I suggest you get a dead cat on the mic aka wind sock, if it's cell phone, I suggest getting a camera like NX 500 yes and old but good camera with a boom mic, there are plenty at a good price similar to the NX series mirrorless cameras.

@PercyPruneMHDOIFandBars 4 ай бұрын

I have to say, I don't think the steam crew were doing a very good job managing the pressure. I've never seen steam blown off to that extent even on a first start! On the second start, with the safety blowing, they really seem to be stuggling!

@paulkay1893 3 ай бұрын

Seems to be a lot of wasted steam there.

@KevsTrains 3 ай бұрын

Just a small amount 😂

@andydunbar3205 4 ай бұрын

What a shambles when it first set off, never would you see a steam engine set off like that in British rail days, and if you did the crew would probably be told never to do that again.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

I agree, it seems to be common place in preservation these days to blow off loads of steam.

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

In BR days a loco setting off with its train would have travelled some distance from shed to station travelling with cocks open to clear condensation out. At Grosmont the shed is 1/4 mile from the station so to avoid hydraulic damage a cold engine needs to travel some distance with the cocks open or suffer damage.

@daveogarf 5 ай бұрын

Stop monkeying about with the zoom lense!

@KevsTrains 5 ай бұрын

Excuse me?

@stirlingmoss4621 5 ай бұрын

an unnecessary display of steam that ruined any photographers and video-ists day out. That driver should be reported for dangerous driving

@BibTheBoulderTheOriginalOne 5 ай бұрын

What a shame when steam engine drivers blow off so much steam as they leave. Makes it impossible to see the loco..and lord knows how the driver sees where the train is going or what obstruction might be in front of him/her/it/they/them/ze/zie/zim/zieself/etc/etc

@Gokiburi777 5 ай бұрын

Steam condenses into water in the cylinders and water doesn’t compress. If you don’t open the cylinder cocks and provide a way for the water escape, the front of the cylinder will blow off,

@EleanorPeterson 5 ай бұрын

@@Gokiburi777- Bah! Details, details... 😁

@alvinmorris5404 5 ай бұрын

Yes it's a unfortunate necessity to bleed off some steam but it became common practice through hard learned experience

@bassetdad437 4 ай бұрын

It only happened with the first deparure of the day to avoid hydraulic damage, the later departures had the loco thoroughly warmed through so the drain cocks were not needed to be open. The signal at Grosmont station allows the train to proceed and the next signal as near Deviation shed by then the drain cocks will be closed,

@The_T.J 4 ай бұрын

Preventing a burst cylinder or blown off end cover is such a drag isnt it 😂

@jadams3427 4 ай бұрын

What stupid design that pushes steam ahead and blocks view. Long live electric trains.

@KevsTrains 4 ай бұрын

Incorrect view, the diesel engine on back is there to haul the stock back into Grosmont from its turning point. Both locomotives have radio communications with each other.