Having games being my best section, I now feel more pressure to take the LSAT before the August exam. I was shooting to be ready by the June test, but I don't want to place undue pressure on myself to achieve a score I'll be happy with. It's unfortunate they didn't give more notice. I feel a decision such as this one should have been told more in advance, but that's just me.
@MMAandBoxingEnjoyer10 ай бұрын
If anything this should motivate you to read
@munachiakwali64963 ай бұрын
My exact predicament 💔
@isaac_heyn10 ай бұрын
Logic games was my worst section! I was looking to take the test next August anyway!
@Nafosat_Toshtemirova10 ай бұрын
What about an experimental section? Imagine having 3 LR sections - one as an experimental😂😂😂😮😮😢😢
@reginaldcharles113310 ай бұрын
Lol...I know right 3LR in one seating, but then again it was this way before Covid...
@nathanfox901110 ай бұрын
Right. Prior to 2020 every LSAT had five sections-four scored, one unscored-so students could have had LR/LR/LR/RC/LG or LG/LG/LR/RC/LR, or RC/RC/LR/LR/LG, or invent whatever your own personal nightmare test would have been. Truth is, it doesn't matter. If you get good enough at the individual questions, you can ace any combination of sections.
@fernandomendezjr.112410 ай бұрын
I’ve been studying for a year and a half and am barely starting to hit the high 160’s. LG is my strongest section. It sucks, but I guess part of being a lawyer is learning how to adapt. 😅
@Legallyglory10 ай бұрын
This makes me feel good. I’m in mid 150s and I been studying for a year. I felt so behind lol.
@fernandomendezjr.11249 ай бұрын
Keep going! A lot of high-scoring test takers have studied for 2 years or more. Like Ben and Nate say: Studying has no deadline. After all this time, things are just starting to click for me. Maybe the same will happen to you! @@Legallyglory
@ErikaMartinez-wc1ln10 ай бұрын
Nathan has a point on his predictions for eliminating games for non-native English speakers and STEM people.
@thedon915810 ай бұрын
Fuck all that time I wasted trying to perfect games
@joussefsedeek375910 ай бұрын
I'm personally somewhat annoyed from this change. That means that there is a chance that on exam day, you can end up with 3 LR sections! That's just way too draining. I'm not a native English speaker and naturally some LR questions just don't add up to me at all no matter how long I sit in front of the question. Standarized tests suck.
@ola_eboda4 ай бұрын
Just wanted to say thank you to you guys. I wouldn’t be attending Cornell Law school with out y’all’s helps. Keep breathing life into all your students!!!!
@MickeyArce10 ай бұрын
As a matter of equity, I think this helps level the playing field. I struggled with logic games and couldn't afford the classes. I think I could score better and have a shot at law school now given that the reading and logical reasoning were generally good for me.
@LC-rl7cd10 ай бұрын
Agreed! Me too on the fair chance finally! Lawyers on LinkedIn are saying that LG has nothing to do with the law, bar exam or lawyering! I get the part about construction of statutes, but that's not critical to being a good lawyer.
@MickeyArce10 ай бұрын
I’m glad I’m not alone! :)
@LC-rl7cd10 ай бұрын
@@MickeyArce Now I don't have to consider predatory schools! Let the STEMs consider those now. Folks in STEM careers can afford it!
@bpxl53yewz294 ай бұрын
But many top schools give you the option of taking the GRE instead of the LSAT. This change wasn’t needed imo.
@jaysonmarquez75248 ай бұрын
Just as a matter of fact it’s easier to manage the study of two things than three. It narrows your focus and even if games were your strong suit, you just have less to grapple with. Allocate the time you were spending on games to the section you struggle with most.
@LSATDemon8 ай бұрын
On the other hand, improving at LG can help you improve at the other sections of the test: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j6ilY6t9ldPFqGQ.html
@JavonWilliams295 ай бұрын
Glad someone else has this take. I can now focus more time on LR which is my worst section. LR and RC go hand in hand.
@dojisatchivi166410 ай бұрын
this is interesting to me, because despite the fact that I am one of the people that Ben and Nathan describe as likely to benefit from the change, (native english speaker, LG was my weakest section) I'm kind of pissed. I've been working so hard to get good at logic games, went up from averaging 12-13 questions correct a game to 21/23 correct most tries and it's like now we're taking it out? why tf did I do all that work why am I currently sitting here in this library practicing logic games? I've been getting like 23/26 on LG and reading comp regularly for months. Anyway I'm signed up for the November 2023 LSAT so I guess I better just can it and keep studying and practicing LG😅
@jessicac548910 ай бұрын
I want LG gone NOW 😂
@justanotherhandle110 ай бұрын
Studying old practice tests is where it hurts you the most.
@iFrankie.7 ай бұрын
I believe they’ll bring back some of the older LR question stems that have been forgotten in the past you’ll see them come up in these newer LSATS just watch
@LC-rl7cd10 ай бұрын
Yay! Yay! Yay! Former English major here loving the change!! Come on now, -- being a lawyer is all about words and reasoning! Gladiators of the English language, REMEMBER?! No offense to non-native speakers because I am a naturalized cit myself, but this change makes sense so we can be as competitve with native speakers as much as possible.
@MikeM-uy6qpАй бұрын
I'm studying to be a prep tutor. I'm a little concerned about the impact of this change on the business. It's my understanding that logic games is the section that people most often seek tutoring for.
@lucychen283010 ай бұрын
I think it'll also impact scoring because there's less content to study for. So long, games!
@christiankingdomacademy817610 ай бұрын
I am waiting till aug…!
@aacts221910 ай бұрын
I love the games as I am STEM type and concrete thinker. It's the section that makes the most sense to me because it's like math 2+2=4 & doesn't involve opinion/personal judgement like RC and LR which answer is the "best." Definitely, I plan to get my test taken before Aug 2024. LG helped me a lot to understand formal logic in LR sufficient and necessary assumptions.
@Legallyglory10 ай бұрын
I guess we are going to have to wait to see how many register for Jan and Feb test. That’s when we will know how many people are pushing off.
@lionlikemessenger10 ай бұрын
I see the book, but the price isn’t marked down yet. It is still the same price.
@lionlikemessenger10 ай бұрын
*The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia* - the price is still around $60 on Amazon.
@nathanfox901110 ай бұрын
@@lionlikemessenger $59.95 is the discounted price. It was previously $89.95. I wish I could sell it cheaper, but after Amazon's cut and the licensing fee I pay for the ~550 LR questions contained in the book, I will barely break even on the book at this price. I hope you find it helpful if you pick it up. BTW: All of the explanations from the Encyclopedia are also available in the LSAT Demon. They're actually better over there, because our amazing Ask team edits and updates them on a regular basis. But if you're not a Demon subscriber or need a book for an airplane, I've priced it as cheaply as I can.
@obviouslyPSM10 ай бұрын
The games were my best section of the LSAT by far...very glad I sat for the LSAT years ago haha
@johnsterling542510 ай бұрын
wish they had some dates where logic games were administered, or optional
@user-dg1nl9bu6y10 ай бұрын
I’m about a month into studying LG. I originally planned to take it in June and retake in August. LG is fun but frustrating and my worst section, I settled for taking it in August!
@michelleluna95956 ай бұрын
Are you applying for the 2025 admissions cycle?
@idevourorphans10 ай бұрын
I was initially considering taking it in Feb. Since LG is my strongest session I am thinking now I'll sign up for January as well...
@prabhdheersingh794510 ай бұрын
But from what I’ve heard, LSAC hasn’t announced anything.
@MrCleanMachine4810 ай бұрын
They released a newsletter
@prabhdheersingh794510 ай бұрын
@@MrCleanMachine48 can you send the link?
@lionlikemessenger8 ай бұрын
LSAT Logic Games are going away after June 2024. LSAC confirmed it. You can Google it.
@montiamccain282110 ай бұрын
Uggghhh!! I suck at Logic Games and preparing to take the LSAT in January. I've been studying the games consistently and have improved, but it just bothers me knowing that they aren't going to be there in the NEAR future! I would've preferred not to know - at least until after my test, lol!!
@Jordanjustinecoburn10 ай бұрын
Same haha
@r.p.890610 ай бұрын
just when I finally started loving the games... oh... thanks!!
@rivasimri6 ай бұрын
English was not my first language, but in my opinion, being bilingual has given me an edge in language. I suck at math (failed algebra three times in high school!), but language, for some reason, has always been a strength. I'm way better with words, theory and reading. Logic games are more difficult for me but trying to practice more in that area.
@christophergerteisen543110 ай бұрын
So if im getting ready to start studying the LSAT next week should I grind for LG or wait to take both sections of LR
@adambarett862910 ай бұрын
Tragic
@dt.348410 ай бұрын
What is logic games substituted with this year for the November 2023 lsat exam and what resources are best to prepare for this new section? Thank you
@LSATDemon10 ай бұрын
Logic Games will remain on the LSAT until the August 2024 test.
@joshuakim76195 ай бұрын
English is my second language. Games is my strongest section. I enjoy games. I’ve been solving so many games 😂 and not much else due to LR and RC being not as enjoyable. Now I am not ready for LR and RC, but im gonna have to take the June Lsat just to take advantage of the games section. I dont plan on getting high score. I will be happy with 152-155.
@cooper7126 ай бұрын
I started studying for the test in February of this year and am torn on whether I want to try to take the test in June before the change or not. Currently Logic games are my weakest section, and logical reasoning is my strongest, though I’ve heard Logic Games have the most potential for improvement in general, so I’m not sure if I should really grind to get perfect at the games and take the LSAT in June or hold off until August. If anyone has any thoughts or advice that would be appreciated!
@LSATDemon6 ай бұрын
Hi! Study as if you're going to take the June test, meaning study the games. Leading up to the registration deadline, if your scores aren't where you want them to be, delay until August and quit studying the games.
@sinkso10 ай бұрын
Will the Demon let us do practice tests in the new format?
@nathanfox901110 ай бұрын
Of course! Our amazing dev team is already working on it.
@Ajeneful10 ай бұрын
Can you put a link to your book in the video description please?
@ThomasGSaul9 ай бұрын
Setting my sights on regional law school not T14 (McKinney or Pettit.) Is August 2024 too late if I plan to begin in Fall 2025? McKinney deadline is May 2025. Pettit has rolling admissions
@LSATDemon9 ай бұрын
Taking the August 2024 test could allow you to apply at the beginning of the admissions cycle for 2025 enrollment. But that's only if you take the LSAT one time. Most students take the test multiple times to achieve their highest score.
@ThomasGSaul9 ай бұрын
@@LSATDemon Isn’t it likely that there will be a couple more test dates Sept-Nov 2024?
@carlosjuliobertos846910 ай бұрын
LG is my best section with only missing 2-4 every time. Hopefully this upcoming November test is my last. I hate the LSAT!
@Legallyglory10 ай бұрын
Can you send the link for lsat book Nathan wrote
@Legallyglory10 ай бұрын
I’m sorry I’m rushing to do it now LG is my best sections it’s carrying my score lol
@shelbylovescats10 ай бұрын
How will we do practice tests and scoring now with an additional LR section?
@nathanfox901110 ай бұрын
It'll be easy actually. Prior to 2020, every test had two sections of LR. For the past three years, we've been dropping one section of LR from Demon tests so that students could practice LR/RC/LG. Now, we'll add that other section of LR back and drop the games. Super-easy switch.
@AnnaKhait75 ай бұрын
on a side note.. wish you didn't name your brand DEMON.
@bpxl53yewz294 ай бұрын
Agree. It’s not a name that draws clients in. Makes me skeptical to be honest
@iFrankie.7 ай бұрын
I feel like the LG was a break from the reading of LR & RC
@yasminstarz1310 ай бұрын
What is the name of the book on Amazon?
@LSATDemon10 ай бұрын
The Fox LSAT Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia: Disrespecting the LSAT
@luigimiotto302710 ай бұрын
Will they extend a part or replace LG?
@LSATDemon10 ай бұрын
They will replace LG with a second scored section of LR.
@quinnvids8 ай бұрын
Victory for us lazies!
@christiankingdomacademy817610 ай бұрын
😂I just bought his book last month 😂😂😂 12:48
@SheLovesFubu10 ай бұрын
What’s the name of the book?
@nathanfox901110 ай бұрын
It's the Logical Reasoning Encyclopedia, aka "Disrespecting the LSAT."
@SheLovesFubu10 ай бұрын
@@nathanfox9011 Got it! This should be added to the book recommendation on the lsat demon page. I didn’t see it there.