LOGIC PRO X - Orchestral Programming Part 1

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LOGIC PRO X - Orchestral Programming Part 1

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This week, I’m working with Spitfire Audio’s BBC Symphony Orchestra library to have a first look at Orchestral programming, beginning with a Violin phrase. It’s one thing to play the notes you want to use but another to bring them to life.
So, this episode will explore some of the key ways that composers putting together orchestral mock-ups work with sample libraries to make them feel more musical. I’ll show you the key MIDI Controllers - Modulation (#1), Expression (#11) and Vibrato (#21), to explore what each can offer a melody. We’ll also see how Logic’s Force Legato feature can help shape a phrase and how Velocity can be used to introduce Glissando. Let’s take the first steps into orchestral programming.
All the videos in this series can be found here: • Composers Toolkit
00:00 Intro
01:14 Recording 1st Violin line
01:35 Understanding MIDI controllers for orchestral samples
03:08 Understanding dynamic sample layers
04:39 Quantise? (or not)
06:36 Closing interface and analysing notes in Piano Roll
07:36 MIDI CC11 Expression for Volume control
10:56 Introducing Modulation for shaping
12:45 Alternative Modulation lines - different musical results
14:57 Editing Modulation
16:22 Expression and Modulation working together
17:43 Force Legato
19:50 Velocity - Glissando
23:23 CC21 - Vibrato
27:33 Summary and where we might go next…

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@itsruiguerreiro 7 ай бұрын

The amount of precious information in this video (actually, on every Jono video), is priceless. Thank you so much for sharing all the knowledge, and please keep the videos coming. I can't wait to watch part 2!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much, that’s hugely appreciated.

@PerplexedMuse 7 ай бұрын

Jono, I don't doubt for a single second that you have a gift in pedagogy; and you just keep raising the bar in meticulousness and thoroughness. It is always refreshing to face this character you bring in your teaching. please keep inspiring us. thank you. 🤍🤍🤍

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, those are very kind words.

@bonjuvi05 7 ай бұрын

He’s the best teacher in this direction !

@buddyclements8457 3 ай бұрын

I've been a professional musician/composer for over 45 years - Have been gradually moving to digital composition/production the past 5 years. This is one of the MOST helpful videos I've been able to find on the whole mixing process. Jono is extremely clear and easy to understand without feeling that his is "talking down" to anybody. In so many ways, digital music production (especially using orchestral sound libraries, like Spitfire Audio - which I love) and Logic Pro X (which I love) seems so counterintuitive to me, coming from a background of using live musicians in a studio or concert setting. BUT Jono makes this all very understandable and has blown away the "fog of confusion" for me! Thank you Jono! You sir, are a new hero!

@jonobuchananmusic 3 ай бұрын

Those are extremely kind words - thanks so much. If this is a subject which interests you, do stay tuned, as there are announcements to come soon.

@jenniferlaynemusic 7 ай бұрын

I don't think I've been so excited for a KZfaq tutorial in my life. Will check back in once I've watched and absorbed it. THANK YOU! Thank you.

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Jennifer. Hope it lives up to your expectations!

@bobbydolan 6 ай бұрын

EXCELLENT teaching. please please please continue this orchestration series...superb!

@jonobuchananmusic 6 ай бұрын

Since you asked so nicely… 😉

@mpamps 10 күн бұрын

Great video. Lots of precious information in a comprehensive and comprehensible manner.

@jonobuchananmusic 9 күн бұрын

Great, glad it was useful. Thank you!

@jazzsong8566 7 ай бұрын

What can I say? Best YT tutorials. Jono is 🔥. Period

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much!

@lfr230 5 ай бұрын

I love your simple and progessive approch. You simplify and that is great because when we learn, we are like children who need to do the right movment one step after another. You gjve confidence, and confidence allows creativity. Thank you!!

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

You’re welcome. Thanks for such a generous message.

@josephlindsey3062 7 ай бұрын

This is what excellence in teaching looks like, very clearly explained while still incorporating a lot of detailed info. Bravo!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much, Joseph - very kind words!

@eden5778 25 күн бұрын

Really thanks for you to doing this tutorial!!!I’ve been struggling for how to make strings sound more realistic recently,and I finally find my escape!!!❤

@jonobuchananmusic 24 күн бұрын

Great, so glad to hear it was helpful.

@jonobuchananmusic 23 күн бұрын

Also, if you have an interest in this topic, we now have a much deeper dive available via Teachable. Do go and check it out: jono-buchanan-music-s-school.teachable.com/

@AlexHippert 5 ай бұрын

By far one of the best tutorials I’ve seen for Media scoring and MIDI parameters/orchestral sample library programming. Thoroughly explained, well edited, well demonstrated. Love your channel!

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

Thanks so much Alex. Part 2 of this mini-series is out now too!

@Mekinhumbel 5 ай бұрын

Absolute masterclass...can't thank you enough for doing these :)

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

You’re welcome.

@Kolinu2 7 ай бұрын

Superb tutorial, just like all the others.Thank you Jono.

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

My pleasure. Thanks so much.

@BarthF 5 ай бұрын

A brilliant video, Jono, very interesting! Thank you very much!

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

Thanks as always BF! You're welcome.

@gilles31 7 ай бұрын

Encore un grand moment Jono, merci ! Vous arrivez à nous expliquer simplement les choses, ce que beaucoup ne savent pas faire. 😉

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Merci Gilles, comme toujours. Je suis tellement heureuse que les vidéos vous soient utiles. J'espère que vous passerez un merveilleux Noël.

@nikkuthomasabraham3784 7 ай бұрын

I really appreciate for selecting this topic. Waiting for second part

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much. Absolutely, Part 2 will be with you in the coming weeks.

@IvayloKabakov 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely brilliant explantation, in every way. Thank you, Jono! Instant sub. Looking forward to more of the same!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much and welcome! There are new videos on this channel every Wednesday.

@renebrossard 7 ай бұрын

Very useful info. Using a combination of Midi controllers really breathes life into a performance. Your detail and clarity helps immensely.

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much. I’m so glad it was helpful.

@MrSteward7 7 ай бұрын

My favourite YT channel by far! Thanks Jono! Its been a great year watching your content. Ill continue to watch and re-watch your tutorials! Looking forward to 2024! Keep up the amazing work! Thanks! Happy Christmas and happy New year to you!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your continued support and for being part of this wonderful community. I'm so glad to hear that the videos are proving useful. Absolutely - here's to next year! Have a great Christmas.

@ianyoung8003 7 ай бұрын

I learnt so much in this video, thanks!!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Hi Ian. That's great to hear!

@bonjuvi05 7 ай бұрын

Thank you Jono, cannot wait for Part 2

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

You're welcome - it'll be with you in early 2024.

@daniellafreniere15 4 ай бұрын

This is an AMAZING tutorial video. Thank you so much 😊!

@jonobuchananmusic 4 ай бұрын

Thanks so much, Daniel. 3 more parts for you to watch now! Many thanks for the kind words.

@davidllewellyn 6 ай бұрын

Jono, this is another excellent video from you. Thank you. I'm particularly delighted that you're diving into these production techniques in such detail for sample libraries and with such clarity and fun. It really complements everything that I'm learning about orchestration from the Spitfire Audio Academy, as well as the evening online film music composition courses I did last year at Guildhall. You're all amazing. Together, this has opened up a world of possibilities to me. I can't wait for part 2!

@jonobuchananmusic 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much David, and congratulations on seeking out the course content you want to help you with your own musical development. Part 2 coming soon.

@sohailsamson828 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic video. Big and detailed information. Another subscriber.

@jonobuchananmusic 4 ай бұрын

Thank you and welcome! New episode here every Wednesday and a new Short every Saturday. Delighted to have you with us.

@lukejessop4617 7 ай бұрын

Jono... Mate, you are a gift to music....! Thank you for every single tutorial... They're great to watch, I'm always enthralled... 😎

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thank you Luke, those are very generous words. Thanks for your continued support and have a great festive season!

@chrisrodenmusic 7 ай бұрын

It's certainly an art form in itself to make string libraries sound as realistic as possible. I wish I'd have seen this a few years ago! Cheers, Jono!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Chris. Hope all's great with you. Have a fantastic Christmas.

@amaurimontalvo3014 6 ай бұрын

I'm really impressed with the amount of detailed information in this video, the best I've ever seen. Thank you for sharing all this knowledge, it is inspiring. You are a great teacher. Can't wait to watch all your videos.

@jonobuchananmusic 6 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for your generous words. Delighted to hear the videos have been so helpful.

@leefoster4171 7 ай бұрын

Thank you JB . Excellent delivery as ever . I have just bought the Roli Seaboard Rise 2 so very good to see the automated parameters mapped by you . Spot on 👍🏻 . Have a great Yuletide 👍🏻

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much Lee. Great purchase - I look forward to hearing how you get on with it. You too - have a wonderful Christmas.

@macturkey101 2 ай бұрын

I've been looking to learn more about this for quite some time. This video (and the subsequent 3 parts on Orchestral Programming) are the clearest and best tutorials of their type for Logic users. Thank you Jono! Bonus tip: Come for the education, stay for the hilarious (and dry) asides to camera... 😄

@jonobuchananmusic 2 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words. I'm so pleased to hear the episodes were helpful.

@JohnLynagh 7 ай бұрын

Jono, this is a brilliant video. I have always been interested in orchestral composition, but struggled with some of the terminology. I always wanted to compose those slidey notes but didn't have a rashers. Who knew it was velocity based. Thanks so much as usual and have a great Christmas. Hope Santa comes !

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much John and for your support through the year. Have a wonderful Christmas too!

@darrenupton9747 5 ай бұрын

Great stuff - thank you so much for sharing :-)

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

You're most welcome!

@joegrado 6 ай бұрын

Hey Jono! Love the new setup. I learned a lot from your Logic masterclass at Guildhall. Thanks!

@jonobuchananmusic 6 ай бұрын

Hi Joe. Many thanks indeed - glad the content (old and new!) is proving useful.

@peterwaringofficial 7 ай бұрын

Superb! Thank you 👍

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks as always, Peter!

@ColinPowell_AMultitudeofOne 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for this new series. I am a beginner with composing Orchestral music (also using Logic Pro X but with Nucleus Core, although I also have Spitfire Discovery), so this is very useful and helpful information. I look forward to the next one!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thank you so much - I'm very glad to hear it was helpful. Part 2 coming in early 2024!

@gianni1646 7 ай бұрын

Hello Jono! Thank you for this tutorial. I try to absorb as much as I can with videos on Orchestral and Music Theory and using Logic Pro. I find your technique a refreshing approach to learning and becoming more accomplished in my journey as a writer and composer. I look forward to exploring many more of your tutorials! Gianni❤

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much, Gianni. It’s great to have you with us and, absolutely, lots more to come in the weeks and months ahead.

@Opensourcetrio 4 ай бұрын

Fantastic, thank you very much!

@jonobuchananmusic 4 ай бұрын

You're most welcome.

@JCF072344 5 ай бұрын

Really helpful. Thank you.

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

You're very welcome. Thanks!

@nwaonyeamos508 2 ай бұрын

This is superb

@jonobuchananmusic 2 ай бұрын

Thanks - I hope you enjoy the following parts too!

@SeethingLemur 7 ай бұрын

I can't even think of an "Expression" that sums up how much you "Modulated" my creative brain bits at such great "Velocity". Yah, I loike it! Did I ever tell you that I also invented the unnecessary quotation marks and capitalisation of nouns? It's a talent that pales in significance to the quality of information in this video - yet I feel compelled to mention it. Appreciate the lesson as always. Cheers mate. 🍺🍻🍺🍻🍺

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

I'm starting to realise that you are responsible for some of the very best inventions the world has known. And for that - and much more - I thank you as always. Have a great Christmas.

@SeethingLemur 7 ай бұрын

I also invented air (21% oxygen) and the kaleidoscopic push up bra / cravat combo. I have good and bad ideas :) A very merry Christmas to you and yours. Cheers @@jonobuchananmusic

@timucinberk 5 ай бұрын

Can you continue anything related to orchestration please? Good video, thank you so much!

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

Hi. Thanks. Absolutely, part 2 came out 2 days ago. More to come on this topic, too.

@joobastudio 6 ай бұрын

Thanks a lot !

@jonobuchananmusic 6 ай бұрын

You’re welcome.

@ConorLambertActor 7 ай бұрын

thank you!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

You’re welcome! Thanks Conor.

@nordiclightphototours153 7 ай бұрын

Just another excellent video Jono. I am appreciating your channel (s) and content you are providing to the community. Thank you. On a side note: short cuts you use in the video do not always relate back to international keyboards. Backslash or bracket keys are not on my keyboard. So perhaps it is a good idea to also highlight the menu option you use when using a shortcut so we can see what exact command it is. Only a suggestion. Cheers Hendrik

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Hendrik and thanks too for pointing that out - I shall absolutely keep that in mind and will flag menu options whenever possible. Much appreciated!

@nordiclightphototours153 7 ай бұрын

@@jonobuchananmusic Much appreciated Jono. Merry Christmas

@julianw2682 7 ай бұрын

Hi Jono - Thanks for this. Brilliant as always. Are you planning to cover Track Delay in this series or maybe in another video? Thanks for all your videos. All superb!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Hi Julian. Thanks so much. Yes, MIDI Delay will feature in this series for sure but if you're keen to know more about that now, I did cover the topic in an earlier episode of the series. Here's the link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jc6VaLtj38icZqc.html Hope that provides some useful insight.

@julianw2682 7 ай бұрын

@@jonobuchananmusic fantastic - thanks so much.

@prashantlalitofficial9465 6 ай бұрын

Thank u❤

@jonobuchananmusic 6 ай бұрын

You're welcome!

@user-fp7wq8vz5h 2 ай бұрын

супер видос! спасибо

@jonobuchananmusic 2 ай бұрын

You’re welcome!

@conduets4939 4 ай бұрын

Hi! Thank you so much for this. I am using the built in sampler strings and I tried to do these midi automations but nothing works? Expression works, but the rest I’m trying to use (vibrato, modulation etc) don’t change the sound at all. Advice??

@jonobuchananmusic 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for your question. I'm afraid Logic Studio Strings aren't dynamically multi-sampled in the same way as the Spitfire Audio libraries and so, you're right, Modulation and Vibrato data won't produce the musical effects explored in this video. As you rightly point out, Expression mapping does work but Modulation and Vibrato aren't mappable parameters with Logic's included Strings options.

@hankfowler8194 7 ай бұрын

I have a Juno DS Jono....HA. And it is a nightmare to assign controllers so thank you for this.

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Ha! You’re welcome - I’m glad the video was helpful.

@sharkbait7331 7 ай бұрын

Hey Jono, I’m using the studio strings in logic and I can’t get the glissando with the velocity like you’re doing in the video. I forced legato and made sure the keys were overlappping but it still won’t work it just plays quieter. Is there anything I should make sure I am doing? Any help would be appreciated! Your video was super helpful still!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for your question. Unfortunately, Logic's Studio Strings aren't programmed with that facility; the Glissando effect showcased in the video is being used on a Spitfire Audio string library - the BBC Symphony Orchestra - which uses Velocity in that way. Other third-party libraries do too, but not Logic's Studio Strings. Hope that helps and sorry it's not the answer you wanted.

@sharkbait7331 7 ай бұрын

Now I know to find an alternative way Thank you for letting me know!

@BrentLeVasseur 7 ай бұрын

How do you connect you Mac Studio to your studio monitors so you can playback from Logic?

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Hi Brent. The Mac Studio is connected to a UA Volt interface and the interface’s outputs are connected to the speakers. Audio interfaces provide two main functions - preamps and recording channels for audio input/recording sounds, and audio output connections for speakers and headphones. I hope that answers your question.

@BrentLeVasseur 7 ай бұрын

@@jonobuchananmusic Thanks! Your tutorial videos are fabulous!

@davidepoli 4 ай бұрын

a little help, thanks! I imported one of my muse score songs into Logic. The problem is that this whole world is new. Sorry if I ask you a perhaps trivial question. I noticed that each channel strip the velocity is constant with the same number (the colors are all the same) why? how do I edit without going crazy haha

@jonobuchananmusic 4 ай бұрын

Hi David. I expect that whichever program you’re using for score creation is more focused on getting the notes correctly inputted, so that they display correctly, rather than using Velocity in the way that Logic can. There are a few ways to edit Velocity. Watch this very early video (!) and let me know if it helps: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sKlgiNdm3LerkaM.htmlsi=_U6GkHVEhJ0NUAKZ Do come back to me if you need any additional help.

@davidepoli 4 ай бұрын

@@jonobuchananmusic Thanks, your videos are very useful!

@SpeedTed 20 күн бұрын

I was just wondering, I know that it's modulation that affects the volume and not the note velocity. However, when I adjusted my note velocity, the volume changes too? Likewise, my modulation doesn't seem to affect the volume. When I first clicked onto "Note Velocity" the notes green lines are lined up in the same line unlike your tutorial. What could be the possible issue that I missed out? I am currently following your video as it's really helpful!

@jonobuchananmusic 19 күн бұрын

Hi Ted. With Short Articulations, Velocity will control Volume but it won't with the Long Articulations. With Long Articulations, Modulation doesn't control Volume but instead, it selects the Dynamic sample layer of your choice. Orchestral sample libraries are recorded with performances played gently, more firmly, and played hard! CC1 (Mod Wheel) allows you to select which of the dynamic layers you're calling on, with low numbers selecting the performances played more gently and higher numbers selecting the harder performances. CC11 (Expression) controls Volume via MIDI. So you could use the Modulation Wheel at a high setting to hear the strongly played notes, but use Expression to turn down their Volume, if the performance is too loud. Similarly, you could use Modulation to select the most quietly recorded performances and then use Expression to turn their Volume up. Volume changes when orchestral players play gently but so does tone, in particular, which varies a lot. This is why there are two separate controls.

@alatereview3141 5 ай бұрын

Which version of BBC symphonic strings are you using? I tried the glissando on the discover version, but it doesn't work.

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your question. Discovery doesn’t have a Legato patch (required for the glissando technique) unfortunately, but both the Core and Pro versions do.

@zorkmarble 5 ай бұрын

In Spitfire libraries, at least, isn’t CC21 actually a toggle (on or off) rather than providing continuous variation in the amount of vibrato?

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

Hi, thanks for your question. In the ‘full’ Spitfire libraries, CC21 progressively introduces vibrato rather than acting as a switch for it, allowing you to move between no vibrato and super-intensive vibrato with several stages in between. I don’t know if it acts as more of a switcher for Labs or Originals instruments. Anyone able to answer this? Thanks again.

@brucehergert804 5 ай бұрын

For the life of me, I cannot get the glissando effect using velocity. I am using the BBC Symphony Orchestra Spitfire Audio free version, the violin 1 patch, and I am following your demonstration exactly, and nothing seems to work. Is there a setting (preference) or anything that would prevent this feature? The expression controller does work for volume, by the way. Thank you for any help you can give.

@jonobuchananmusic 5 ай бұрын

Hi. I’m afraid that the free version doesn’t feature the Legato patches which enable Glissando. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

@brucehergert804 5 ай бұрын

@@jonobuchananmusic Well, FREE comes with price after all, that's for sure!

@LoganMarking-ov8rg 3 ай бұрын

why does my bbc plugin not look like that? mine is white with less options

@jonobuchananmusic 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the question. There are 3 versions of BBC SO. ‘Discover’ is the free, ‘white’ version, which squeezes a compressed orchestra into a small download. ‘Core’ is the next step up, with multiple Articulations but only one microphone position. ‘Professional’ is the fullest version, with all the Articulations and multiple microphone positions. The idea is that the 3 are interchangeable, so you can switch from a laptop to a ‘full’ version of your track without having to rebuild your whole project. But ‘Core’ and ‘Pro’ are more expensive. I hope that answers your question.

@user-fp7wq8vz5h 2 ай бұрын

хороший акцент)) понятная речь

@jonobuchananmusic 2 ай бұрын

🙏

@garygimmestad4272 7 ай бұрын

I’m forever annoyed by the terminology. Wouldn’t it be clearer if developers had used ‘volume’ rather than ‘expression’ - since that’s what it actually is? In fact, ‘dynamics’ sounds more like a volume parameter, and ‘expression’ sounds more like an emotive parameter. It’s backwards and doubly confusing. Spitfire didn’t help with their glyphs that don’t translate as one or the other. I have to turn off the terminology and think in terms of left and right. And always with a sense of mistrust. On top of that, the CC numbers are presented in reverse order - 11 on the left, 1 on the right. I may be a bit OCD but why? Why?? Your approach and order of operations is clarifying. I’m also a teacher and I take interest in how other teachers present information, whether it’s familiar territory to me or not. Quite often, I also learn something new about subjects that I know well. I learn something new in every one of your tutorials. Well done, as always!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

Thanks Gary. I understand your frustrations about the labelling. MIDI controllers being used to shape performances hugely pre-dates their appropriation by sample developers. The first time I came across MIDI Expression being used in earnest was by wind players using Expression and Breath Control to enhance their performances alongside the notes they played. And in that sense, they were producing more Expressive music. The Dynamics control does make more sense to me as manipulating the Dynamics controller calls upon the different Dynamic layers which have been recorded. But, as I say, I totally understand that what’s immediate and intuitive to one user is annoying and fiddly for another and I have plenty of OCD moments with technology too, believe me! Thanks for the kind words, as always.

@garygimmestad4272 7 ай бұрын

@@jonobuchananmusic Thanks for the historical part. Dynamic markings in print (for physical instruments) prompt louder or softer dynamics (volume) which then result in timbral effects, a secondary effect. If I were king, my choice would be volume and timbre which are distinctly different (and unambiguous), whereas dynamics and expression are much closer in meaning,.and both are ambiguous. I think I've beaten that dead horse enough now. It is what it is. Cheers!

@jonobuchananmusic 7 ай бұрын

@@garygimmestad4272 Thanks Gary, that all makes complete sense. And if it makes you feel any better, I'd happily make you King Of Reassigning MIDI Controllers. Have a fantastic Christmas.