Logitech FINALLY Go Direct Drive! | PRO Wheel & Pedals Review

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Жыл бұрын

It’s been a long time coming, but Logitech has finally moved on from gear-based force feedback and fully embraced direct drive technology, thanks to the Logitech G Pro wheelbase.
Featuring 11Nm of torque - a significant upgrade on the 8Nm of Fanatec’s CSL DD with Boost Kit - the Logitech G Pro offers several new features not seen on the Swiss company’s previous sim racing wheel efforts - including the G29 and G923.
For example, for the first time ever Logitech offers a quick release system - hinting at future multiple wheelrim options - with the standard Pro wheelrim boasting two jog wheels and a plethora of buttons. The new model also features on-the-fly wheelbase adjustments, so settings can be changed mid-race.
The rim also comes with two analogue clutch paddles (as well as the standard flappy gear-changing paddles), which can be used as an accelerator/brake axis, making it an inclusive option for disabled or young sim racers.
In addition to the new wheel, Logitech is offering a new pedal option - the Logitech Pro Racing Pedals - which for the first time in Logitech’s history come with a load cell brake as standard.
However, costing a combined £1,348, do the Logitech G Pro wheelbase and Pro Racing Pedals gain pass marks from Rich? Does it compete with other entry-level direct drive options from Fanatec and Moza?
Watch our review to find out!
💵 Pricing
Logitech G PRO Wheel: £999 / 1,099€ / $999
Logitech G PRO Pedals: £299 / 389€ / $349
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@derekwilliams1155
@derekwilliams1155 Жыл бұрын
one thing to note about the plastic construction; the motor is attached to a steel plate, and that plate is either bolted to your rig or table, the plastic just surrounds the rest of the electronics / provides for air cooling
@chrismathewsjr
@chrismathewsjr Жыл бұрын
plastic! i love plastic. plastic is soooo good. nothing i love better than plastic parts!
@StevePhoenix
@StevePhoenix Жыл бұрын
Still, a plastic enclosure is unacceptable at that price.
@derekwilliams1155
@derekwilliams1155 Жыл бұрын
@@StevePhoenix making the surrounding all metal would be a waste of materials. From an engineering perspective it doesn’t make any sense
@StevePhoenix
@StevePhoenix Жыл бұрын
@@derekwilliams1155 It absolutely does. Metal )especially aluminium) conducts heat much better than plastic. Also consider the fact that similarly priced products by Simagic and VRS are entirely made out of metal.
@derekwilliams1155
@derekwilliams1155 Жыл бұрын
@@StevePhoenix the plastic isn’t helping with the heat transfer wtf, it’s literally air cooled
@shanewright9489
@shanewright9489 Жыл бұрын
If they had bundled the pedals with the base and wheel for 1000 it would have been amazing
@nickreich1
@nickreich1 Жыл бұрын
Literally would have ordered immediately at that price for the combo. But with ELEVEN NM of force I still believe a thousand dollars is a decent price
@ULouOW
@ULouOW Жыл бұрын
@@nickreich1 WHO NEEDS THAT MUCH FORCE THO M8 lmfao, Gonna be like fighting a fuckin rhino jesus christ haha
@getsideways7257
@getsideways7257 Жыл бұрын
And an H-shifter...
@Natd0gsef
@Natd0gsef Жыл бұрын
Their H pattern shifter is junk anyway
@jdalzell3354
@jdalzell3354 Жыл бұрын
yea at 1350 for the set they kinda lost me.
@krisvalenti4141
@krisvalenti4141 Жыл бұрын
Excited Logitech is getting into this segment of the market.
@recon1673
@recon1673 Жыл бұрын
Time for my wrists to break 😅
@krisvalenti4141
@krisvalenti4141 Жыл бұрын
@@recon1673 Be nice if they had the pedals for sale on their web site(shrug)
@gamezahoy712
@gamezahoy712 Жыл бұрын
@@recon1673 Your bank is also going to break its 1000$
@gamezahoy712
@gamezahoy712 Жыл бұрын
Its not entering the market since you can get a DD2 for the same damned price
@recon1673
@recon1673 Жыл бұрын
@@gamezahoy712 dammit
@MaxSimsMusic
@MaxSimsMusic Жыл бұрын
I was expecting a $500-$600 price tag. At $999 you might as well go for Fanatec or Moza
@robertdabrowski6270
@robertdabrowski6270 Жыл бұрын
Just to later on market, price is to high ... Nothing new... Rubbish
@the-bu3lb
@the-bu3lb Жыл бұрын
Totally agree. It’s never going to be worth 1000.
@peterwood2633
@peterwood2633 Жыл бұрын
Not if you're in NZ and want to game on PS5!
@PeteV80
@PeteV80 Жыл бұрын
Neither are as good.
@PeteV80
@PeteV80 Жыл бұрын
​@@the-bu3lb it has pedals
@peterfconley
@peterfconley Жыл бұрын
The thing I balk most at is the lack of a 6-speed manual shifter. I know it’s silly but I’d like to drive my old MINI around Spa with an H pattern shifter.
@jack-of-all-trades1234
@jack-of-all-trades1234 Жыл бұрын
What happens if the game has a six speed shifter?
@adamthomas1222
@adamthomas1222 Жыл бұрын
I'm all for having everything type C, but this is one of the things I don't mind having micro, because I'll just leave it plugged in, and never need to worry about it for months/years
@oni7729
@oni7729 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, but still it's hilarious that they still use micro USB on a new product in 2022! C'mon logitech what are you thinking
@HermanKruisman
@HermanKruisman Жыл бұрын
It will break when you move things. This WILL happen, you will see
@FlameRat_YehLon
@FlameRat_YehLon Жыл бұрын
For this kind of things type B is the definite way to go. Micro is like you have no idea when it'll break. In fact if nobody minds out of spec customized stuffs there are industrial grade connectors available, but good luck trying to get replacement cables if that's the case
@Jordan-zk2rf
@Jordan-zk2rf Жыл бұрын
I havent seen a single usb type c cord break unintentionally
@skyeait5939
@skyeait5939 Жыл бұрын
good for you but unfortunately not everyone is you.
@TheRealCaylen
@TheRealCaylen Жыл бұрын
A reminder that an 11nm wheel will feel better and smoother at 5nm than a native 5nm wheel. The headroom is nice to have.
@usefulidiot21
@usefulidiot21 Жыл бұрын
I agree that it's better to run the motor at 50% than at 90-100% of its maximum output. It should at the very least allow it to run cooler and last longer, while hitting those power values with less strain on the motor.
@gerardsitja
@gerardsitja Жыл бұрын
@@usefulidiot21 I disagree. You don't buy a 11Nm. wheel to use it at 5Nm. Also the rated capabilities will not shorten the life of your wheel, (assuming the motor is with good cooling) there is still margin for the motors, they are never push to 100%
@noddlecak3279
@noddlecak3279 Жыл бұрын
@@usefulidiot21 I also disagree as a electronic hobbyist these wheels are definitely electronically locked at these forces, not mechanically so wear would depend on the thickness of copper the quality of magnets but as you mentioned the most important thing is the heat Edit. Actually I disagree with the first sentence but agree with the first half of your second sentence, I disagree with the commenter as two wheels who let's say have a 5 nm rating and a 11 nm rating that are both locked at 5nm would exert the exact same forces assuming the strength of the motor is locked to 5nm. Electronic motors aren't like mechanical engines where wear is proportional to intensity of application
@kyebosh_au
@kyebosh_au Жыл бұрын
As a sim racer & wheelchair user, I really appreciate the design choices here. Quick-release wheel makes context-switching of my desk easier; gradient paddles are excellent (currently I’m mapping a TrackIR to a custom vJoy config - head pitch up for accel, down for brake); separate pedals help (I’ll never use them); but my personal favourite is the centre-mounted desk clamp: I have bruises on my knees from whacking the clamp knobs under each side of my G29, & the single central clamp will mitigate that. Love it! If Logi wants to send me one I’ll put it to much use 😁
@thirtytwoforty
@thirtytwoforty Жыл бұрын
amazing how they couldn't come in cheaper than the fanatec GT DD Pro bundle @$970
@FirssenSimracing
@FirssenSimracing Жыл бұрын
And used a lot of plastic/polymer when Fanatec is all metal... Maybe except wheelrim.
@punchawaterfall6302
@punchawaterfall6302 Жыл бұрын
AN ENTIRE BUNDLE! Wheel, pedals, everything you need! Less than JUST this DD wheel housed in plastic. Can we just take a minute to digest how INSANE that is?
@FirssenSimracing
@FirssenSimracing Жыл бұрын
@@punchawaterfall6302 problem is that Logitech will be a lot more popular choice even with that insane pricing because everyone can buy it in any store nearby...
@cobratuner
@cobratuner Жыл бұрын
Except Fanatec never seems to be in stock. Logitech is a much larger company who just pumps out production.
@antonioedu5580
@antonioedu5580 Жыл бұрын
As it will get more popular the price will also drop, and I wouldn’t consider it as a clientele problem but rather a fanatec problem not making their products more available 💁🏽‍♂️ I’ve been wanting to get the CSL DD for a while now and its dog shit where I live cause import fees and so on and there are only two available retailers that sell them, but they are both out of stock
@weswheel4834
@weswheel4834 Жыл бұрын
Logitech should bring out the connector part of the wheel to buy separately (then modders could make their 3D-printed wheels and bolt them onto the connector).
@TraumaTeamRacing
@TraumaTeamRacing Жыл бұрын
This really is an exciting time for our little hobby. The more competition the better, with Moza on the scene as well this will hopefully allow more and more people to get into the direct drive game. Well done Logitech👏🏻 Just got to get that price down a bit🤔 Really nice review. Enjoyed this👍🏻
@stevecade857
@stevecade857 Жыл бұрын
Waiting for a Moza R5 deluxe bundle with a load cell brake pedal myself. Should be cheaper than the Logi Pro by some margin. OK, it won't have the rev lights and inbuilt menu LCD but if you race with cockpit view the info is right in front of you anyway.
@TraumaTeamRacing
@TraumaTeamRacing Жыл бұрын
@@stevecade857 The wealth of choice consumers have at the moment is fantastic. When I upgraded the G923 the only real option was Fanatec.
@MT-pr6qb
@MT-pr6qb Жыл бұрын
Very true, the simagoc mini is also a solid "for-life" upgrade
@GrahamIsOnTheTube
@GrahamIsOnTheTube Жыл бұрын
Well said @Trauma Team Racing
@TraumaTeamRacing
@TraumaTeamRacing Жыл бұрын
@@MT-pr6qb I wish I could get my hands on one of these to try👌🏻
@slowanddeliberate6893
@slowanddeliberate6893 Жыл бұрын
I remember a few years ago Logitech said they were exiting the sim racing hardware market. This is a surprise to me.
@RingoYote
@RingoYote Жыл бұрын
Yeah that was a lie
@Emerich2
@Emerich2 Жыл бұрын
i think they changed their minds because the sim racing market blew up
@itsdokko2990
@itsdokko2990 Жыл бұрын
i'm eager to see this DD steering wheels coming. Got into sim racing not too long ago with a G923. As i get more seasoned and experienced, i hope they appear here in LATAM soon, since for some reason, Fanatec/Thrustmaster setups dont appear in the local market at all, and i dont feel like getting destroyed with shipping fees nowhere in the future.
@pengu0-
@pengu0- Жыл бұрын
Same I can only find Logitech any other wheel brand doesn’t exist here unless you’re willing to import and pay a ridiculous amount in shipping and importing fees.
@lautaroalday7225
@lautaroalday7225 Жыл бұрын
For real, atleast here in Argentina, a Thrustmaster T150 or T300 its like 3 or 4 times the price of the Logitech wheels, im kinda scared of seeing the price of the Logitech Pro now lmao
@itsdokko2990
@itsdokko2990 Жыл бұрын
@@lautaroalday7225 i'd have to save money and walk to work for like 4 months to buy even a Moza R1 lmao. when i bought my current wheel, the G923, here on Chile got it for 280 US dollarydoos, and spent close to 370 with the driving force h-shifter included in the total. as for Fanatec and TM offerings, not even in MercadoLibre. i legit could buy a barely running subaru legacy on the local market for the price of a big boy DD wheel. p.s: hola amigo del otro lado de los andes :D
@chublez
@chublez Жыл бұрын
@@itsdokko2990 For the record that's pretty much true here in the states as well. I have a fanatec wheel and I could've got a used car, wouldn't have been a very nice car mind but it's certainly possible. TBH if I total up the cost of my sim rig without even counting the PC I think it's more than I could get for the cheapest car in my fleet....
@boogerfromthatmovie4257
@boogerfromthatmovie4257 Жыл бұрын
@@chublez yea my fanatec has the same bluebook as my civic also its insane lol
@Umair23
@Umair23 Жыл бұрын
Just bought my g923 last week 😢. Ohh well im returning it and already ordered the new Pro wheel and pedals. This was such a impulse buy. I dont care 😅.
@BoxBoxBoxGaming
@BoxBoxBoxGaming Жыл бұрын
great review as always, great B roll. I'm VERY interested in this, but that price is a bit much for a casual racer like me. I too hope they do a lower nm version for less. this is a big step for Logi tho, and I'm hyped to see them adopt DD and to see where this ecosystem goes.
@GraveUypo
@GraveUypo Жыл бұрын
yeah, i'm kinda sick of everything shooting up in price endlessly. where are the $150 FFB wheels?
@amildlydisappointingsalad6058
@amildlydisappointingsalad6058 Жыл бұрын
@@GraveUypo they would lose money if they did that
@MemerBen
@MemerBen Жыл бұрын
Totally agree with u for the price, I feel like 1000 dollars for a wheel seems a bit too much. Especially compared to the g920 I bought for 250 bucks.
@nickreich1
@nickreich1 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately. If you’re a casual this product isn’t for you.
@-LK34-
@-LK34- Жыл бұрын
Far too expensive for what it is
@matk4731
@matk4731 Жыл бұрын
I think Logitech kind of shot them selves in the foot with the pricing. It’s no cheaper then a Fanatec on Moza DD. The wheel base is all plastic & about $200 over priced I think. But the pedals are reasonably price for sure. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻👍🏻🙃🙃
@TybudX
@TybudX Жыл бұрын
Most box stores that sell games have console systems and laptops and keyboards and other peripherals, like Logitech gaming wheels, set up for people to try. Unless Fanatec and Moza decide to mass produce their stuff and make cuts to quality in order to compete their only option will be to sell their competing products for less.
@subiroam1444
@subiroam1444 Жыл бұрын
Well logitech died for me i use the g29 and i have always troubles with the Logitech drivers rejecting my wheel or rejecting the game or rejecting my pc
@matk4731
@matk4731 Жыл бұрын
@@subiroam1444 Logitech have always been a good budget option. But this new DD wheel base doesn’t have the budget price tag. For the money I think the Fanetec CDL DD is a better option even though I don’t like the way Fanatec charge a stupid amount of money for the 8Nm power supply.
@Tacko14
@Tacko14 Жыл бұрын
Dunno. The 11Nm is a plus, as is just having one powerpack. Not keen on the wheel tho, that joystick looks flimsy. But then, the fanatec base wheel is plastic fantastic and an ergonomical nightmare
@matk4731
@matk4731 Жыл бұрын
@Micah That’s right but to get a better product I will buy online none of my sim rig was brought in a retail shop. Logitech have out price themselves on this one less hi “plastic”end for hi end price.
@bamboozledbob3298
@bamboozledbob3298 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to whether if they release a proper shifter along with it as there aren't many great choices at a reasonable price right now.
@nickreich1
@nickreich1 Жыл бұрын
There are lots of options for custom shifters though that the plug and play
@95mushroom
@95mushroom Жыл бұрын
@@nickreich1 If you were to get a shifter to go with this setup, what would be 2 or 3 of your picks?
@r00kiet80
@r00kiet80 Жыл бұрын
i'm sure they will make a pro shifter and pro handbreak why not its so easy for them
@EvilijoUK
@EvilijoUK Жыл бұрын
Considering almost all Logitech gear gets discounted by about 50% a year or two after release. I am really looking forward to picking this up then for £500 with pedals included.
@lukakapanadze6179
@lukakapanadze6179 Жыл бұрын
Keep dreamin' bro
@EvilijoUK
@EvilijoUK Жыл бұрын
@@lukakapanadze6179 g920 with pedals and shifter cost me under £150 a few years ago, rrp for that was £350. You want to spend £1200 for brand new wheel knock yourself out. I'm all about bargain hunting lol
@_Bonez12
@_Bonez12 Жыл бұрын
@@EvilijoUK the g920 is a toy in comparison to this. The profit margins on a product like this are also far lower. You definitely wont see sales on this for a long while, if ever.
@madMARTYNmarsh1981
@madMARTYNmarsh1981 Жыл бұрын
@@EvilijoUK Did you get yours in a sale at Curry's? I paid the same amount about a year ago and I got mine from Curry's. Absolute bargain.
@EvilijoUK
@EvilijoUK Жыл бұрын
@@madMARTYNmarsh1981 actually got mine from Game, £179.99 but with new f1 game on Xbox which I've sold on ebay for like 35 quid 😅
@Brooker0013
@Brooker0013 Жыл бұрын
I have a fanatec now but have had a logitech G29 and thrustmaster. This is interesting though. My main problem with the G29 was the noise. So if that's not a issue with this new wheel then "no brainer" is spot on. Best thing about logitech over fanatec or thrustmaster is customer service.👍🏼✌🏼
@duuyyy
@duuyyy Жыл бұрын
I got a Fanatec set up not too long ago and while I do like it, their customer support/service is pretty bad, and don't even get me started with their shipping practices.
Жыл бұрын
On top of that I think Fanatec CSL DD is all sold out and you can't easily get one. Logitech is in stock, readily available. Only if I had that money to spend away 😢atm.
@munkytaint666
@munkytaint666 Жыл бұрын
nice to see Logitech offer a DD product, especially with such high torque specs. The pedal set seems very high quality too! I'm currently quite happy with my Fanatec DD wheel, but if this Logitech model had come out sooner, I would have seriously considered both very hard before making a purchase. I hope they have lots of success and we see sim racing gear from all the manufacturers grow in features and quality.
@Frankestein01nl
@Frankestein01nl Жыл бұрын
Cool... wonder if they are working on a new hotas flight system as well (ffb please!), as Flight simulator and X-plane certainly have "taken off"! Thanks for the awsome review on the wheel, loving it! Certainly well thought out mounting methods!
@MyGuide
@MyGuide Жыл бұрын
So in the future it might be possible to upgrade the pedals for my G29? If so I would be very interested. Thanks for the review.
@awakeandwatching953
@awakeandwatching953 3 ай бұрын
on pc you can use any pedals on console it might be more difficult but you can also get upgrade kits to
@mickwald
@mickwald Жыл бұрын
How do the mounting screw holes line up with entry-level logitech products? Is it the same as the G29? completely different? some overlap?
@AlexeiWatson
@AlexeiWatson Жыл бұрын
Is the pro line going to have an external handbrake and a H pattern shifter that doesn't suck? (I have the G923 and G shifter).
@thebaffman4898
@thebaffman4898 Жыл бұрын
I hope this wheel will at least mean increased Trueforce support, since it would also benefit my G923.
@courtneymcdo
@courtneymcdo Жыл бұрын
Just received mine today. Surprised there’s no comment on how stiff the brake pedal is out of the box. Feels like trying to jam your foot through it to get 100%. Also be careful with max force feedback, I had settings maxed for my G29. Half a lap in with this beast I hit a wall and almost broke my wrist (maybe slight exaggeration but it’s strong). Certainly be careful with this around kids.
@pontiaclemansgt
@pontiaclemansgt Жыл бұрын
Just ordered last night. Usually I research stuff to death but kind of made this purchase with out the usual research. Hoping I love it more than the fanatic csl stuff
@GTI8855
@GTI8855 Жыл бұрын
@@pontiaclemansgt You mean, you don't like CSL DD? Why?
@sodtom
@sodtom Жыл бұрын
Great and nice preview! Current using G923 ...
@AdrenaLukeYT
@AdrenaLukeYT Жыл бұрын
I've heard the mounting plate for the next level racing F-GT Elite cockpit (not the lite) doesn't add up. Is this true? Does anyone else have trouble mounting it with the drilling holes? Are you forced to only use the table clamp?
@AlanaLGolden
@AlanaLGolden Жыл бұрын
Thank you Logitech!! I'm a business owner who uses sim racing wheels, and relying on Fanatec for quality DD supply has been a point of tension due to the very long lead times. Going to be ordering a set of them to try out, hoping that they can be the replacement I was looking for!
@Matty.Hill_87
@Matty.Hill_87 Жыл бұрын
Have you checked out the Simagic alpha mini?
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
@user-wq9mw2xz3j Жыл бұрын
this is even more expensive though and doesnt seem better quality. sadly only real alternative to fanatec are chinese brands
@fantasyfan9320
@fantasyfan9320 Жыл бұрын
Nobody cares if you’re a small business owner, it’s complete irrelevant
@The.world.has.gone.crazy...
@The.world.has.gone.crazy... Жыл бұрын
@@fantasyfan9320 grow up.
@lilbu223
@lilbu223 Жыл бұрын
@@fantasyfan9320 weird
@bobk4438
@bobk4438 Жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to seeing the Thrustmaster wheelbase. I'm not currently in the market for a DD wheelbase it's something I might be interested in buying in about a year. That will give time for some comparison videos and reliability information.
@berker4321
@berker4321 Жыл бұрын
and hopefully some second hand market for them so we don't have to shill out the full price.
@TheGrimeyVibes
@TheGrimeyVibes Жыл бұрын
@@berker4321 Availability of products will help out the used market. Currently the used market is priced very high due to new availability. We just need Logitech to have plenty of supply.
@CarlJohnson831
@CarlJohnson831 Жыл бұрын
This is the first video ive seen of yours and the intro REALLY Reminds me of Midnight club 3 start up
@tadge-rico2238
@tadge-rico2238 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a direct comparison between Logitech's Pro pedals and Fanatec's CSL DD pedals. Interested to see if Logi's set are worth the extra over the immensely pocket friendly Fanatecs. That and the fact that you can pick up Fanatecs CSL DD base and a wheel for much less and at the power range as suggested by Rich 20:32.
@75STARFISH
@75STARFISH Жыл бұрын
Looks amazing. I might update my g29. Does it come with a hand brake?
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын
It does not by default sadly!
@Boudewijnnnnn
@Boudewijnnnnn Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't think upgrading to this makes much sence at the moment since other competitors have a bigger arrangement of wheel and pedal selections alongside their bases so I personally think it's overpriced for what it is.
@Adz187
@Adz187 Жыл бұрын
The g29 is a great wheel. It's ideal
@heavymetalpatriot6767
@heavymetalpatriot6767 Жыл бұрын
You actually want the 11nm. You just set the force feedback to a strength you like then the extra headroom is nice for other setting such as when you crash or run over rumble strips. Personally, I think the majority of the racing sim crowd would not want 5nm max for sure...8 maybe but without that extra headroom the other vibration etc... effects are also limited. My Fanatec DD2 makes 25nm of torque, I only run it at about 30-40% force feedback on the base and maybe 60-70% in the game and it is amazing the detail it outputs if dialed in properly. In short you can turn down the FFB to less than peak torque but you can't turn up past peak if it's lacking.
@boogerfromthatmovie4257
@boogerfromthatmovie4257 Жыл бұрын
i run mine maxed and let the games set ffb. i even have it set to peak not linear but i only have a 8nm. to me its still feels light depending on the car. iracing feels minty its a workout tho.
@heavymetalpatriot6767
@heavymetalpatriot6767 Жыл бұрын
@@boogerfromthatmovie4257 That is also a good way to set them up. I do the same pretty much in every game and just adjust the FFB on the wheel and degrees of steering if needed.
@memyselfcomments
@memyselfcomments Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of buying the thrustmaster TS-XW.. is Logitech’s DD wheel driving experience better?
@connorminniss1682
@connorminniss1682 Жыл бұрын
Would the pedals work standalone on PC with other brands’ bases like the T300RS for example? That USB-A connection is very versatile
@mr_makko
@mr_makko Жыл бұрын
It is pleasant to hear that Logitech is still alive. What a time to be a sim-racer!
@TXGrackle
@TXGrackle Жыл бұрын
Very excited to see what else they will come up with for this brand new ecosystem. I was really hopeful to see something like this during Logiplay and boy did they deliver. Excellent review of this new DD wheel.
@lipegomez
@lipegomez Жыл бұрын
Great video 🏆. With usb pedals connection will the Thrustmaster T-lcm work with it???🤔 asking for a friend 😄
@tangentsmith2961
@tangentsmith2961 Жыл бұрын
In fact this should be like 400-600 bucks first DD base just like products from competitors but a bit more affordable as Logitech is not a small garage based company and have it all, name, production power to produce way more products. Not a single normal person will spend his money for this product after a day long research into sim racing coz why if competitors are way longer into it and have stable drivers and great settings ecosystem for all the different games and even cars.
@ar12.
@ar12. Жыл бұрын
I was considering this but $2100 au all up pedals as well I’m not even sure if it’s worth it my pc is worth just a tad more then that and I’ve spend similar money on drones but I’m still undecided at this point I love Logitech but the cost is killing me.
@Nockspielt
@Nockspielt Жыл бұрын
Do you know if its possible to just use the pro pedals together with a thrustamster t300 wheel??
@MarkWalter
@MarkWalter Жыл бұрын
Good to see them getting into the direct drive world. Granted, knowing this is there first, its kind of big compared to the competition. Hopefully they can refine that over time in the later generations...
@Powaup
@Powaup Жыл бұрын
Fanatec bundle for 8nm base/wheel/pedals is $1,000 so seems like the better alternative (although its always out of stock) would love to see a 3 way competition with Moza too
@squillager4434
@squillager4434 Жыл бұрын
moza has the r5 its close in price i think
@carlad2640
@carlad2640 Жыл бұрын
@@squillager4434 in Europe that price goes up a lot with postage.
@zwenkwiel816
@zwenkwiel816 Жыл бұрын
Fanatec could take over if they only had stock and proper distribution.
@Lucasdelima04
@Lucasdelima04 Жыл бұрын
I would go Fanatec or Moza... sadly they dont ship to Brazil, so Ill have to take the this Logitech (and dont get me wrong it seems like a decent wheelbase) when getting a direct drive wheel since it will probably be way more acessible than buying from someone else
@porfiriodev
@porfiriodev Жыл бұрын
isso q é foda :/
@Kakeyoro
@Kakeyoro Жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thanks guys. From what I've heard here, I'm just going to hold off until I can use my G923 H-Shifter with the new Pro wheel.
@LiveWire904
@LiveWire904 Жыл бұрын
Off-topic but what brand are your foam sound deaden hex panels you’re using? I have not seen a design like that before and I’m interested.
@KevinKienitz
@KevinKienitz Жыл бұрын
Really odd pricing on this. I expected them to release something priced just under a Fanatec DD Pro setup. Something in the $/£800-1000 range for a full setup.
@itomXEC
@itomXEC Жыл бұрын
Yeah... imagine the full setup for £849... That would be beautiful... but sadly for the full setup they want £1149.... Geez
@MrAeroHD
@MrAeroHD Жыл бұрын
Never thought I’d see the day. Wow.
@fish3439
@fish3439 Жыл бұрын
would it be possible to connect these to fanatec paddles if you insert the usb from the pedals into the wheel? really curious about this since it could save quite some money
@steevo124
@steevo124 Жыл бұрын
Does Acc (PC) recognize the Logitech Pro Wheel in "pro wheel" mode? My wheel does not work in pro wheel mode. I have to use the G923 Compatibility mode with my pro wheel for it to work. Not sure if it's just my wheel?
@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme Жыл бұрын
Great review. I'm with you on the price, I wanna make the jump to direct drive but $1000 plus the pedals isn't an option at the moment. If I could get both for a grand, with less force, I'd be saving up right now.
@bertbox69
@bertbox69 Жыл бұрын
I can't see how anyone could be happy for a peripheral that is almost twice the cost of the console. The extras are heavily marked up, it's a rip off today
@Kaceydotme
@Kaceydotme Жыл бұрын
@@bertbox69 it’s comparable to other direct drive options, I’m not sure what the issue here is.
@TacohMann
@TacohMann Жыл бұрын
@@bertbox69 ? direct drive wheels are pricey, and it's not like you're buying a new controller, it's very different to that.
@pontiaclemansgt
@pontiaclemansgt Жыл бұрын
If you use code DRLUPO you’ll get 16% off. I just got the base for 850 and the pedals for 200
@Max__apex
@Max__apex Жыл бұрын
All the reviews say it’s amazing force feedback compared to dd wheels out there. wow 💥💥💥
@cobyz1757
@cobyz1757 Жыл бұрын
Has anybody had any issues with the foot pedals from a g29 set and the new pro wheel not connecting? I have looked everywhere and cant seem to find an answer to resolve this issue?
@iuopunderstandyourjokes9914
@iuopunderstandyourjokes9914 Жыл бұрын
My problem with it would be the flat bottom because I prefer round wheels
@Matty.Hill_87
@Matty.Hill_87 Жыл бұрын
I'm interested to see how good these are, for the price they are going to need to be pretty special to compete
@stewartrobison5218
@stewartrobison5218 Жыл бұрын
Are there any compatible shifters for the Logitech G Pro Whee atm? Like could you even integrate the TH8A shifter from Thrustmaster in that regard?
@PlamenSimeonovSimo
@PlamenSimeonovSimo Жыл бұрын
Can i use my G29 pedals and shifter with this wheel? IS there going to be adapter for that ?
@thierryfaquet7405
@thierryfaquet7405 Жыл бұрын
I didn't play any driving games in the last 10 years, not interested in a gaming wheel and yet watched the whole video. Amazing quality 👌👌
@Wasmachineman
@Wasmachineman Жыл бұрын
I haven't done any simracing stuff since 2018 or so but I too watched this video. Fuck, how I wish I had the space for a Playseat :(
@ElMoShApPiNeSs
@ElMoShApPiNeSs Жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're addicted to KZfaq. Go outside for a while.
@Tacko14
@Tacko14 Жыл бұрын
Don’t worry about the 5-8-11 Nm. I went from a G29 to the Fanatec csl dd, 8 was too much. After a few months, 5 felt too light so I went to the 8. Again a few months on now, and 8 starts to feel a bit light. Ffb to the max, mind. It just takes getting used to, and you’ll want more in time
@thetruth2015
@thetruth2015 Жыл бұрын
Same happened to me I started with 8nM and said couldn't max anything and wondered why the hell anyone needs more, now I need more 🤣🤣
@pantlessbobandy5795
@pantlessbobandy5795 Жыл бұрын
So, does logitechs g920 pedals and shifter work with this dd? Or do i need to buy everything all over again?
@vex123
@vex123 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know what kind of motor they use? I'm curious whether it's a Brushless DC (BLDC), or Permanent Magnet Synchronous AC motor (PMSM)
@justamanchimp
@justamanchimp Жыл бұрын
You know when someone like Logitech step up their game sim racing must be becoming much more popular, I hope they can hone this and get the price down
@chrismathewsjr
@chrismathewsjr Жыл бұрын
i've been alive long enough to know prices don't ever go down. not rent, not food, not video games. best bet is a used market for this plastic crap.
@justamanchimp
@justamanchimp Жыл бұрын
@@chrismathewsjr haha I know what you're saying, they'll probably make a new product though, Logitech will see how the product performs and if it is worth it, it's likely they will get very clever with the all the logistics with supply and manufacturing, they'll do more advanced research and development and potentially they can engineer a significantly cheaper product, kinda like what Thrustmaster have done with their cheaper wheel base. Logitech will most certainly do this in my eyes just because they will want to beat Thrustmaster in that market space. Couple years time we will see a cheaper product from Logitech I'm sure. I agree twith you hough, this product as it is probably won't get cheaper. If anything, inflation will make even more expensive.
@sketchyfabco
@sketchyfabco Жыл бұрын
With detachable pedals I'll bet someone will make a handle to attach to those pedals for a handbrake.
@realms4219
@realms4219 Жыл бұрын
Can you turn the rumble off at 11 Nm? If so how does that feel?
@jeryjohn
@jeryjohn 10 ай бұрын
Im super happy with my gt dd pro and for a similar price of the dd logitec and pedals i got the whole fanatec kit including load cell hb and shifter even got the csl steering wheel for drifting and rally
@iamzuesthisisthetruth8864
@iamzuesthisisthetruth8864 Жыл бұрын
As a Fanatec Owner, I wish this had came out before CSL DD PRO! I started on Logitech G27 in Afghanistan on GT4! In 07. I loved racing games before that, after I Was Hooked on wheels! Built a Racing seat in Afghanistan out of 2x4, and 3/4 inch plywood! Was AMAZING! What time I had off I was there!
@mcalabu
@mcalabu Жыл бұрын
I think it is always better to have 11nm product and setup it to 5 or 6 nm, or your preference, but having a machine being capable to offer all the spectrum from 0-11nm to bring you better and precise sensations in every situation, I think it is gonna be more capable to give you the exact tone on different games also.
@Murtiburti
@Murtiburti Жыл бұрын
I have a question: But the pedal on the left do you must use it?
@abdullahally3683
@abdullahally3683 Жыл бұрын
Hi how do actually acquire this pro series’s steering wheel and pedals?
@FirssenSimracing
@FirssenSimracing Жыл бұрын
I would go Fanatec. They have a lot more experience and propably better software. The most expensive CSL DD Pro budle cost the same as that Logitech so...
@labounti
@labounti Жыл бұрын
There's other options besides fanatec. Also the bundle hadn't been in stock for months. Logitech seems to aim for mid-high end giving a combo in between the podium and the DD Pro.
@TimothyJavier
@TimothyJavier Жыл бұрын
Logitech has been making force feedback wheels since the 90's, plus they probably have the biggest spending power for R&D of any sim racing company. Logitech is a huge company, but yeah they should improve their sofeware.
@misterdog7
@misterdog7 Жыл бұрын
And has less plastic.
@xStaySkilledx
@xStaySkilledx Жыл бұрын
Fanatec sucks compared to other manufacturers in the same price range. Camus, simagic take the cake compared to fanatec. Fanatec cheaply made and terrible customer support.
@FirssenSimracing
@FirssenSimracing Жыл бұрын
@@xStaySkilledx we talking about different brands... I had only one issue with my CSR-Elite but it was previous owner fault (he don't installed washers where he should) and I got replacement part from support in less than a week. Except that still works perfect without issues at all. Cheaply made? Except rim it's all metal and solid AF so LOL. All new brands like Camus or Monza are welcome but they need time to make better software...
@IIIMDGIII
@IIIMDGIII Жыл бұрын
This seems like a really biased review. The price of these products make no sense the second you compare them to fanatec and moza’s offering.
@DionMalimbag
@DionMalimbag Жыл бұрын
Finally! A modular setup from logitech especially the pedals!
@j.tai_
@j.tai_ Жыл бұрын
can you use the old pedals and shifter with the new wheel?
@laty9f1
@laty9f1 Жыл бұрын
They’re gonna have to REALLY impress me with a F1-style wheel to even consider moving to this from Fanatec
@firmaleggibile4130
@firmaleggibile4130 Жыл бұрын
i think we'll have to wait a bit for Logitech to assess if this product will sell "as is" and then decide to start selling the base and the F1 wheel.
@J.STANNO
@J.STANNO Жыл бұрын
Bit pricey for me. I’d rather get the Moza R5 bundle for £600
@rishabmeh32
@rishabmeh32 Жыл бұрын
Problem with the R5 bundle is that the pedals are useless, which is the single most important thing you want to upgrade
@hr_pedersen1439
@hr_pedersen1439 Жыл бұрын
Does it work on the ps5?
@jacksondoyle9216
@jacksondoyle9216 Жыл бұрын
Will there be a place to connect a manual shifter like the Logitech g920?
@briangreen4219
@briangreen4219 Жыл бұрын
I would like to see you compare this wheel setup to the Fanatec direct drive system
@kazimcanbas9187
@kazimcanbas9187 Жыл бұрын
Trash for the price
@YouTubeTV-rx4ck
@YouTubeTV-rx4ck Жыл бұрын
Are the pedals from the Logitech G29 compatible with this PRO Wheel base?
@darleschickens3726
@darleschickens3726 Жыл бұрын
Looking to get a sim rig, anyone suggest of this would be a good option, currently looking at Fanatec DD base and wheel
@vGoWv
@vGoWv Жыл бұрын
just bought this wheel and keep getting initialization failed error. anyone know a fix for this?
@BZXT
@BZXT 7 ай бұрын
Does anyone with this wheelbase know what is the maximum table thickness that the clamp can accommodate? Thanks
@AverageDadAdventures
@AverageDadAdventures Жыл бұрын
any way to pair a good H-shifter and handbrake with this? (for Console)
@The.world.has.gone.crazy...
@The.world.has.gone.crazy... Жыл бұрын
Wich wheel stand do you use? Great video, new sub.
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG Жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is the Next Level Wheel Stand 2.0
@gweepgweep8729
@gweepgweep8729 Жыл бұрын
Is the wheel really so silent when you turn the wheel? I have a G25 and that is so loud, I can't drive at night.
@DakotaPischke
@DakotaPischke Жыл бұрын
That looks like a Next Level Racing Stand....did you have to drill new holes to mount the wheel?
@robertopereira1577
@robertopereira1577 7 ай бұрын
Great video! Well done! Just one question for you guys from @TraxionGG, how performance compares with the g923? I mean the pro model is much better? Is it worth to change the g923 for a pro model? Thanks!
@TraxionGG
@TraxionGG 7 ай бұрын
Appreciate it! We have exactly the video for you actually 😊 - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hpaPpJh8m7rQiqc.htmlsi=LgZ0ITurh-pk2yLt
@briangreen4219
@briangreen4219 Жыл бұрын
In the GT7 options is this wheel there to pick like all the other wheels?
@lratafia
@lratafia Жыл бұрын
nice video man, better explained than others
@SpeeDLoveR_PR
@SpeeDLoveR_PR Жыл бұрын
Hi, I want to know if those pedals are compatible with my G29.
@kemurikusari9629
@kemurikusari9629 Жыл бұрын
awesome! as soon as there are wheel adapters out to mount a real steering wheel i gonna get one. i hope it will work with my logitech shifter
@KalijahAnderson
@KalijahAnderson Жыл бұрын
I don't have any legs, and this is basically THE wheel I have been waiting for. Thank you so much for sharing this.
@gripp9k
@gripp9k Жыл бұрын
After my horror experience with Fanatec Elite wheels (I had 3 of them fail within a year, all replaced under warranty, but I don't need the hassle of having to send a broken unit back, and then wait weeks for the replacement), this is excellent to see. I'll def be picking this set up. Load cell brake pedal is a huge win also.
@pluggotic
@pluggotic Жыл бұрын
yeah, what the heck. I got the fanatec clubsport handbrake 6 months ago and it's already dead.
@gripp9k
@gripp9k Жыл бұрын
@@pluggotic Yeah. Fanatec makes nice stuff when it works, but man, the reliability from my experience is terrible.
@zwenkwiel816
@zwenkwiel816 Жыл бұрын
@@gripp9k hearing this makes me kind of happy all the fanatec stuff is always out of stock so I had to go with a t300, th8a and an ebay handbrake instead XD, all still work fine after 3 years of regular use...
@pluggotic
@pluggotic Жыл бұрын
@@gripp9k yeah yours is borderline tragic
@kyrosavcic7382
@kyrosavcic7382 Жыл бұрын
im honestly impressed i more of a thrust master because of not feeling clunky but after seeing this the ergonomic and feasibility i cant ignore that and im in the market for something new a DD wheel per say and i wonder can the Thrust master DD wheel thats coming can it match this idk were gonna have to wait for november to find out
@Pozer714
@Pozer714 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Excellent competition for the other wheel manufacturers, maybe will see some price drops on the other wheels, maybe!
@ignacio2747
@ignacio2747 Жыл бұрын
hi man, what's the size of the package of each product, tanks
@Berci1511
@Berci1511 Жыл бұрын
EDIT: Im looking mainly at Fanatec GT DD PRO with the formula v2.5 or the moza r9 with the open wheel rim Im looking to buy a dd wheel within the next 2 months, and since my decision to buy one, 3 new wheels from 2 companies have been unveiled, the moza r9, r5 and the logitech. I have the t-lcm pedals, so i only need an open wheel rim and a base, but im so confused on which brand to go with.. what would you recommend?
@demitinubu3357
@demitinubu3357 Жыл бұрын
Moza
@inquz3402
@inquz3402 Жыл бұрын
moza
@helldrift9103
@helldrift9103 Жыл бұрын
Moza
@prakhashsomanathan
@prakhashsomanathan Жыл бұрын
Can the T-LCM work with any wheel base if the pedals are plugged straight into the PC?
@Berci1511
@Berci1511 Жыл бұрын
b.. but moza is so much more expensive, and from what i've read, the steering feels notchy when also pressing buttons at the same time, it might have something to do with the wireless data transfer
@jorgearaya3154
@jorgearaya3154 Жыл бұрын
beautiful watch, which one is it?
@SlyNine
@SlyNine Жыл бұрын
When are you guys going to release a belt driven whee BAM DD
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