Logitech G923 REVIEW: What is TrueForce and is it good?
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Күн бұрынIn my Logitech G923 review, I explain what TrueForce force feedback is (nope, nothing to do with Jedis) and whether it's worth the money. Plus I talk about the other new additions to the Logitech G29 and G920 successor.
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@llermz 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I needed to know, thanks
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
No problem.
@Xitronix 2 жыл бұрын
Good review, helped me make up my mind and so far the wheel feels great. Edit: great is an understatement, it's much much better than a controller
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear, always good to hear people found my videos useful. And yeah, more immersive than a controller, that's for sure.
@Gael-ep6tu 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, very well laid out 👍👍.. I think you have changed my mind from this to a Thrustmaster T300. Either one will be my first wheel. Is the T300 superior, being belt driven?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
In theory maybe a bit but it can slip and I think the Logitech feels more enjoyable to use. Probably better to base it on which ecosystem of products you may later upgrade to and/or whichever is cheaper. Both are decent options.
@iSin_ 2 жыл бұрын
Im intrested in building my own racing sim rig, but I am confuse on building the cockpit. So If I want to build the vertical handbrake like yours do I need to buy a clamp to attach to the rig to make it look like yours or is the rig come with one itself? Also, it seems to be possible to mix and match different brand based on looking at yours you have a thrustmaster handbrake with logitech steering wheel. What is not compatible? so is the pedal and steering wheel need the same brand, but you can run different brand on shifter and handbrake?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
You don't get a clamp for a handbrake and/or shifter with the PlaySeat Challenge. I got mine from another company, might be worth watching my PlaySeat Challenge review. I believe a link is in the description of that video. As for mixing and matching, generally you can't unless you find an adapter. My wheel, pedals and shifter are all Thrustmaster. Once you know what steering wheel you want, you can the Google compatibility with the rest or tell me the other components your planning on getting.
@TomGorian 3 жыл бұрын
Great review thank you
@Sloggin Жыл бұрын
What is the device you're using to hold the steering wheel in front of the tv?
@UncleManuel 3 жыл бұрын
Oh good! So it's perfect to let me know for sure when I get stuck in deep mud in SnowRunner... ^_^
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, and when you've crashed into a tree. Or driven off a cliff.
@vorticalacorn7ok906 2 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahah cant wait for that
@clausk1817 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea you also do reviews. I was mainly watching your channel for Snowrunner - which i plan to play using this steering wheel
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
I do the odd one and would love to do more, especially the sim racing stuff. It is meant to be a bigger part of the channel! This review did pretty well so maybe I'm not so bad at it lol.
@JacaboBlanco 2 жыл бұрын
Just used rhe demo in best buy. As a casual who hasn't owned a wheel since ridge racer on ps1 I am amazed.
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
Cool how far things have progressed!
@TheImbatmanization 3 жыл бұрын
Did they fix the paddle shifters with these?
@Swiftmonkey 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review, thank you. It's nice to hear someone actually review the product instead of just complaining or saying something along the lines, "It's crap. It's the same as the previous wheel. WTF is Logitech thinking?" I like how you seemed very unbiased in your experience with it, and brought the facts. I just bought one (at a discount even) and am excited to try it out. It is my first wheel, coming from a controller. I didn't want to jump in too deep with a Thrustmaster or something more. I've used Logitech products in the past and have been satisfied with them and their customer support.
@vincentvega4186 3 жыл бұрын
get an t300rs its levels ahead
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Ali. It's a weird time to review products because prices have gone up so much, makes it more important to be fair. I actually enjoyed the wheel and I know a fair few people who have had their G29/G920 for years (some with the G27 still going quite happily). The T300 is good, but the Logitech pedals are better and I think TrueForce is actually enjoyable. How much was the discount, out of interest?
@wiLdchiLd2k 3 жыл бұрын
@@vincentvega4186 Nope... this belt-driven garbage is far behind... you dont even have deadzone with an G923 when you set the minium force high enough. Next step would be direct drive... sadly most direct drive wheels ala Fanatec are overpriced like hell.
@vincentvega4186 3 жыл бұрын
@@wiLdchiLd2k have you ever tried t300rs vs g29, g923? The difference is night and day....
@combobulus1671 2 жыл бұрын
@@vincentvega4186 thrustmaster quality control is far worse than logitechs and is the reason I'm getting an upgrade to a 923 from my 920
@Satanski666 2 жыл бұрын
Well done review, one question though, as i'm a noob in racing games... worth upgrading from Driving Force GT?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
I've not used that. Depending on you, it's possible you might notice better force feedback and smoothness. But nothing too drastic I don't think.
@nathanmidwest8385 3 жыл бұрын
Ive always enjoed my g920 it felt great and made racing games a lot more enjoyable but my biggest gripe with the setup was the damned break peddle, the shear force needed to apply full breaking is just abursb. The fact that they fixed this issue is almost enough for me to upgrade and start using a wheel again. Otherwise a perfect reveiw, good delivery on your feedback and thoughts! awesome work again.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers buddy, appreciate it!
@robertjusic9097 3 жыл бұрын
Just today i solved that problem. First you need to open the plastic cover that protects the mechanics of the pedals by unscrewing the pedals and 14 silver screws from the bottom. Then you need to unscrew the pedal and take out the little rubber part that actually makes the pedal so hard. Then you just use a razor or something sharp to make a big hole diagonally in that little rubber piece and voila. You break pedal doesnt feel like shit anymore. You can even take the rubber things out but I dont recommend it.
@abuelb 3 жыл бұрын
Take the rubber stopper out and you'll enjoy a bit of progressive braking. All 3 pedals have different compression spring coil in it.
@sennategger 3 жыл бұрын
@@abuelb Agreed. I took it out a few weeks ago, now ACC is actually playable! Bought the GTEYE springs, hope it feels even better after I install.
@abuelb 3 жыл бұрын
@@sennategger Had to take it out too to play original AC. Otherwise it only goes to 30% braking at full force.
@Jculbs74 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you I was on the market for one thanks also dose it feels delayed and I am assuming the paddle shifter dose not work on SnowRunner also do you have a PC
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
No delay in the games I played, at least not anything to worry about. No shifter support on SnowRunner because it's automatic anyway except for the ability to sneak into gears using RB or equivalent. I do have a PC too.
@Jculbs74 3 жыл бұрын
Thank
@obtainedlight4745 3 жыл бұрын
My question is though, *do the LSB and RSB buttons ACTUALLY WORK?*
@SSmallwood 3 жыл бұрын
my 920 has working LSB and RSB in every game ive played, mud runner, AC, F1 2018, IRacing and many more
@johnf.kennedy3175 3 жыл бұрын
For me they work on pc only.
@deonbjerring6892 3 жыл бұрын
Plug into the back of your Xbox one and they do
@tomandme8203 2 жыл бұрын
Aren’t they the buttons u use to mimic you pushing in the thumbsticks?
@maxversthappening8166 3 жыл бұрын
So, my takeaway is save up for a Fanatec. Nice review though, for sure helps explain the new stuff Logitech added
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers! I think if you know you will stick to sim racing and can afford it, the mid-range Fanatec and Thrustmaster stuff is great. Beyond that, the gains are much smaller but the price certainly isn't. But the CSL Elite and the three-pedal set is a lot more than the Thrustmaster G923 so if the price drops it will still make sense for some.
@maxversthappening8166 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars yeah i agree with that
@ryanmalin 3 жыл бұрын
I dont want to spend my wad all on a steering wheel so I got a G923 and a RTX2070 SUPER, RiftS, Quest, 10700k, Valve index, HP Reverb G2 and whatever else new comes out next month that sounds interesting.
@bluegarlic4622 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars just saved me 6 minutes, thank you!
@kimjongunlol193 3 жыл бұрын
As a starter that isn’t able to afford wheels a few hundreds up, should I get this?
@Pulsed101 3 жыл бұрын
The G923 is $80 USD more than a G29 so it's dropped quite a bit recently. I was thinking about going for a Thrustmaster T300RS GT but it's up there in price especially with a shifter.
@scottstots7238 2 жыл бұрын
I paid $423 for my g923 with no shifter at Best Buy returned it 2 days later after finding the the same wheel with a shifter on Amazon with the shifter for $299! Just came in and I love it
@sw4rml0gic 2 жыл бұрын
Any advice on whether this is worth an upgrade from a g27 wheel that's about a decade old but works fairly well?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
Not really, to be honest. Slow reply, sorry!
@tpcbdr1829 3 жыл бұрын
Is there a way you can mount it on a desk... thinking about getting my first one and not sure if i need the stand
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah the twisty bits at the front clamp it to a surface, including a desk. Just make sure it's reasonably strong because of the rotational force of the motor.
@boxxy5896 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars yeah. Learned that when I had my first desk it was pretty cheap and not strongly built. Kept of shaking my whole desk when turning.
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
@@boxxy5896 I remember my IKEA coffee table would take off, it also mangled the surface lol.
@michmeet1753 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Do you know if it works with Logitech Driving Force Shifter ? I assume it will but cannot find direct answer
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
If the G920 and G29 did, the G923 will. But I can ask my Logitech contact when he is back just in case.
@michmeet1753 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars yes please. I appreciate it :) I think it will work. I am planning to buy it mainly because i dont want very expensive hardware and in my country one shop is selling them with shifter gratis but when asked if it is compatible they dont know....
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
It is indeed supported, had official confirmation. Enjoy.
@Berci1511 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, so i redescovered my love for f1 and i pre-ordered the f1 2021 game, and currently i have a 15 year old or older trust predator with force feedback(more or less, its just force now, there are no drivers for the feedback so it just comes back to the neutral place) i just cant wait for my paycheck and ordering this bad boy, maybe i will upgrade later to a belt-driven simwheel, but now the logitech seems perfect
@Berci1511 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerryhobknob7995 well the wheel is amazing in my opinion, but my experience with sim racing setups is limited, i've never driven belt or direct drive wheels, but this one is surprizingly quiet, it has a lot of force feedback, quick response time, and a lot of mapping that can be done because of the numerous buttons. I love it, i dont regret buying it or f1 2021, so realistic compared to f1 2020, i love both of them. I strongly recommend it if its your first ffb wheel, its really good
@Berci1511 2 жыл бұрын
@@jerryhobknob7995 yes of course, you have to set it higher than f1 2020, but at 60 or 70 strenght its perfect tbh
@martinsaethren 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't the trueforce made for the upcoming Playstation 5 haptic feedback system?
@marksutherlandjr.2121 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about making this set from Newegg my first Sim purchase.
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
Racing games really benefit, if you can afford it and have the space why not!
@angelfernandogoku5224 Жыл бұрын
Hello, a question that wheel do you recommend for simulators to learn how to drive, example city car simulator, what would you recommend? Oh, and if it would work for other simulators and also for racing games, I guess, although I don't think I'll play, but anyway, I'm waiting for your answer.
@ATribeCalledCars Жыл бұрын
Any driving simulator will help a little, especially those with traffic and somewhat realistic handling models. But unless you are learning auto it will help to have a gear shifter and clutch pedal.
@osmacar5331 Жыл бұрын
Just bought mine for 290 sterling. Yeah am happy with that, and i got the information on the TRUEFORCE feature ngl only one who actually went into it that i found. I too have assetto corsa competition
@eddierancid4884 3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered g923 and h pattern shifter. E brake next. Very excite! Why? Current wheel is a PS2 Logitech dfp from 20 years ago....
@kayitaliander7732 3 жыл бұрын
Does this version still have a noticeable deadzone in the middle? Thnx
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Heard that before :(
@jonasv1998 3 жыл бұрын
As i have both ps5 and Series x i am wondering if i Can use g923 pedals for ps5 with g29 so i don’t need ti change pedals each time but just the wheel?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
I would assume they work as the connection is the same but I didn't try. I would search the Interwebs to check as I'm sure you're not alone in asking. Update: Logitech confirmed via Twitter that it does work.
@TheCe1ticZombie 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Wish I had purchased the G29 before the Pandemic for 149 USD. Don’t really have the money for a rig yet so I will just wait for a sale. Also was hoping for more from Logitech like maybe an E Brake.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
That's so cheap, not sure we'll see those prices again for a while. An e-brake would be cool, although I love the Thrustmaster one. It's just a bit expensive!
@2mjz84 3 жыл бұрын
Does is still have that DeadZone in the middle when its centered???
@pedroportella3134 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there, I bought my last week and it does not have any deadline, actually the wheel is very precise. Of course, you can set deadzone in the game if you like, but I don't advise to.
@truegaming6183 3 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is what what is the plus and minus button do in the little turning knob with the arrow on it I have one and idk how to even use that
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
I think you'd assign it or it works in certain games. Can't remember off the top of my head an example though.
@truegaming6183 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars ok
@denzil_red 2 жыл бұрын
Found a new one with damaged box at large retail store for £245. I assume at this price, it would be recommended over a new g29 at 270.
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a good price these days, may as well go for it over its predecessor.
@masterstud9207 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude.
@paulgc9447 2 жыл бұрын
Does the wheel try to return to its initial position when straightening out like a real steering wheel?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
Yes unless the game doesn't make it, which would be unusual.
@thesupervisor820 2 жыл бұрын
What wheel is the best for xbox.is the t300 rs on xbox?
@obnoxiouslime6922 2 жыл бұрын
I moved up from a controller and bought this + the h pattern shifter for around 300€ and ive been very happy, only criticism is about the brake pedal being even too stiff honestly, the wheel is absolutely great but i dont like the clamps since they sometimes pop up
@Jesus-qs5cl 2 жыл бұрын
Try changing your brake pedal with the clutch pedal in settings helped me out a lot.
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
I've not had any issue with the clamps, but then I did end up swapping to the PlaySeat Challenge on a permanent basis. H shifter is what I need to add to my setup!
@obnoxiouslime6922 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jesus-qs5cl i need to change the spring inside the pedal i think
@martingolding4951 2 жыл бұрын
U can actually change the breaking in the hub software or in game works perfect for me I have the g920 and drive in ATS/ETS2
@thejimmichanga2913 6 ай бұрын
With the new moza r3 bundle it's really hard to justify this anymore. I finally got a renewed g920 for Christmas after years of wanting to get my feet wet. All it took was one night of using it on forza motorsport and I'm already bitten by the bug. I'll be upgrading to the moza r5 bundle w/ 3rd pedal and h pattern shifter next year. The 920 get the job done though and gives you the experience, however you can tell where the gaps are that a DD base would fill.
@nixonx7 3 жыл бұрын
what happened to the LEDs at 4:37 ?
@rayhib 3 жыл бұрын
Some games don't support it. Not sure though.
@MatthewWieler 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve had this and a g27. My opinion. Worth it over a g92you had one? No. If you don’t have a wheel then yes go for it. This will be better then good for over 80% of you all out there. The g923 true force is a difference. Only if you’re into gaming heavily will you notice it. Al in all 8/10. Shifter will be good enough. If you bang gears hard get extended warranty on it 😂 9.5/10 on overall quality.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Good point. I actually saw the G920 and G29 were back to £160 on Amazon UK, that's cheap.
@hash-CCFF00 Ай бұрын
are the trueforce vibrations constant and annoying? can it be manually disabled?
@scootamayne610 3 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this for a person who has never had a steering wheel before? I thought about the g29 but not sure if I want it tho tbh
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
I would yeah, it's a great start and decently built. Good pedals and feels nice to use. Plus it seems to be cheaper these days although the G29 will do great too. If there's not much of a price difference go G923.
@scootamayne610 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars yeah man, I've always wanted to get a steering wheel but wasn't sure about the g29 if it was compatible with the series X.
@scootamayne610 3 жыл бұрын
G920 sorry lmao 🤣
@ali94hn 3 жыл бұрын
@@scootamayne610 G920 and G923 are both compatible with xbox series x, just remember that G923 has two models, under the same name... G923 has a playstation AND seperate xbox model under the same G923 name, they've ditched the "double digits for ps4 and triple digits for xbox" names (G920 vs G29 as example)
@erikyslas4693 2 жыл бұрын
what if the rev light only turns on when you start it up, if i play forza motorsport 7 will the rev light be there. How do i turn the rev light on
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the game, if supported it should just light up.
@Bruh-od4ce 3 жыл бұрын
i see this as a win as an xbox user because i finally get the extra buttons and shift lights
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you benefit more if you had the G920.
@krakenzzistrash5351 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I never understood why they didn’t do that on the g920
@samconroyy 3 жыл бұрын
Buying a wheel soon and currently this is only 25nish pound more than a g29. I'm wondering though, can you disable trueforce? Heard it can cause numb hands with long use. Sadly I'd get a t300, but it seems prices have dropped for Logitech because the t300 is around £380.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the in-game options, if it's there you can disable.
@hash-CCFF00 Ай бұрын
A very good point, dis you find out if it can be disabled manually?
@samconroyy Ай бұрын
@@hash-CCFF00 Yeah the games that support it allow you to disable True force. (Not many support it anyway)
@hash-CCFF00 Ай бұрын
@@samconroyy Thanks. So it doesnt come up on those who dont officially support it? And have you had any problems with the pedals losing sensitivity as some have mentioned?
@samconroyy Ай бұрын
@@hash-CCFF00 Correct, games with TrueForce have the ability to disable it, those without just have it off by default. Pedals are fine, I've seen people add stronger springs to the accelerator and clutch as they are looser. No loss in sensitivity for me though.
@hunter3412 3 жыл бұрын
I loved true force.. Is a new vibration shape
@hash-CCFF00 Ай бұрын
can vibrations be manualy disabled?
@s.z.x.01 3 жыл бұрын
Will this work with xcloud on PC in the future?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Not read anything concrete yet but I would assume so.
@axelode45 3 жыл бұрын
Just buy a t300rs or CSL Elite. They offer upgrade-ability, belt drive, stronger ffb and better build quality for a slightly higher price. The only thing Logitech would baybe be its better reliability(if that carries over to the g923). The CSL will probably also have greater re-sale value.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense but in some countries the price gap is really sizable. I should do a comparison between my TS-XW and CSL Elite.
@bullet4346 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars Especially here down under it’s over a $200 gap between the G923 and the T300 with the G923 being $480 AUD and the T300 being over $600
@neilbezuidenhout9284 2 жыл бұрын
Where I stay the thrustmaster is more than double the price.
@saskwach8822 2 жыл бұрын
It all depends on price in your area, for me the g923 is $300, t300 is $500 the csl is over $600. If people are comparing the g923 with a t300 then my choice would have to be to get the g923. I would be able to get a shifter and hand brake for less than a t300.
@proxysauru 3 жыл бұрын
Just woke up, nice.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
A morning gift for you haha.
@proxysauru 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars Yeah, and weezer just dropped a new song. Today's gonna be a good day.
@bubblegum0912 3 жыл бұрын
So I have a thrustmaster t150 and it's okay, ffb is present but not informative for me and whenever I try to catch a slide quickly it loses calibration... Do you think the G923 is a clear upgrade from it? I play ACC, AC, Dirt 2.0, Project cars 2 and Gran turismo... I'm on ps4 too. Any help is much appreciated! Great video too dude!
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
I think the faster response of the G923 does make it better for catching a slide. Some would disagree but I think it's a more intuitive wheel. Hard to say if you would notice a huge difference though, so maybe see if there is a shop with one to test or see if a friend has one.
@bubblegum0912 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars Cheers for your reply! Literally 10 minutes after my comment I went and bought the G923, like night and day going between the T150 and G923, can actually drift and catch slides without losing calibration! Brake pedal takes a wee while to get used to but I've no complaints with it yet 😁
@solidious3399 3 жыл бұрын
Does the wheel still make a grinding sound like the g29
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't notice but maybe I'm just going deaf in my old age.
@emilyanderson9559 8 ай бұрын
I have it it's fantastic with Gran Turismo seven I think I'm gonna try one of the trucking games and see if I can learn how to drive a truck because I have the gearshift as well
@ATribeCalledCars 8 ай бұрын
Definitely some great trucking games out there! Enjoy.
@TGUNNER777 4 ай бұрын
Hi, Emily. Can you feel the TruForce effects in GT7 & if so, how much better is it than the previous model wheel?
@emilyanderson9559 4 ай бұрын
i've only had this one. i wish i could play GTA5 with it. gran turismo is cool. i might get the VR to go with it. @@TGUNNER777
@Bbdoe98 2 жыл бұрын
Deciding between g29 and g923 for my first wheel. G29 is £200 brand new and g923 is £250 brand new. Would you say the g923 is worth it at that price or should I stick with g29?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
I think the revisions are probably worth it for an extra £50 as the pedals do work better and the force feedback is better although it's not a night and day difference. I guess you could save the £50 and put that towards a seat, handbrake or shifter for better bang for your buck.
@YoungGameBeatTube 3 жыл бұрын
At which price would you recommend buying? Seeing as the g29 was around 170€ before corona while on sale.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say. The G920/G29 have crept back to £300 but rival steering wheels are more expensive too. Given the superior pedals, I'd say £250 maximum for the G923 but it could be a while before we see that, if ever.
@YoungGameBeatTube 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars thank you! :) Loved the video btw, answered all my questions and wasn't 20 minutes long.
3 жыл бұрын
Corona may be the point. It's not beyond possibility that Logitech actually release at this price because of Corona, since the G29 is price gouging at £340 on UK Amazon due to low stock.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
True, I imagine this is a low-hanging fruit that wasn't much to develop internally but could help boost funds while corony is killing economies.
3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars It's straight up price gouging. They are able to capitalize on the fact that their product is in unusually high demand by re-releasing the exact same product with negligible modification at a greatly increased price. Knowing that the price of this new product will compete competitively with even used prices for the old product. Its just business at the end of the day but I'm sorry it leaves me with a bad taste. This thing probably would not even exist if not for Corona.
@skullviet 3 жыл бұрын
When does it come out? I pre-ordered it and they still haven't shipped out it. How did you get yours already?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
It's available to buy now, Logitech told me deliveries are happening by the end of August. I got sent mine directly to test, one of the few journalist perks.
@skullviet 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars Ahhh so by the end of August. Thank you so much!
@skocngt7457 3 жыл бұрын
Why the fawk did you buy it
@skullviet 3 жыл бұрын
TAZRR TAZRR wdym
@skocngt7457 3 жыл бұрын
@@skullviet I mean like big scam, logi wheel for 400bucks save up 100 bucks and you have csl elite
@stephenbunting9020 Жыл бұрын
This wheel is currently on offer for £249 reduced from £349, with a honey voucher code even further reduced to £225. As the full price seems to be a sticking point, i believe this at £225 is a a very tempting buy..
@ATribeCalledCars Жыл бұрын
That's a really good price indeed, worth considering for those who want a good budget wheel.
@TrillahGorilla Жыл бұрын
Where is this available? That sounds great.
@leonscottgamingandmotors8913 3 жыл бұрын
I think the burning question is, have they actually upgraded the potentiometers in the pedals that fail after a year of use? My last set I fixed three times and my current set I've had to fix once already leaving me without a clutch pedal 🤦♂️
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
The pedals are the same as before except for the spring. I know Fanatec has this issue too, bit annoying.
@leonscottgamingandmotors8913 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars no way! You would think they would have updated them seeing as so many people end up with the same issue?! Mad that it happens with fanatec too though!
@ceementality 2 жыл бұрын
You just have to clean them
@leonscottgamingandmotors8913 2 жыл бұрын
@@ceementality yes but as I have said multiple times cleaning them doesn't last
@Deltaexe190 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve left mine sitting for a year and a half, everything works like new
@benceszilvassy9248 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question (to anyone who wants to help me out with it) which wheel should I biy the g923 or the thrustmaster t300rs gt?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Logitech personally but both have merits. Also depends on the price difference.
@rayhib 3 жыл бұрын
Have you decided?
@benceszilvassy9248 3 жыл бұрын
@@rayhib not yet
@rayhib 3 жыл бұрын
@@benceszilvassy9248 Okay! Keep me updated!
@neblolthecarnerd 3 жыл бұрын
Its basically the g29/g920 rebranded with barely any improvements at a much harsher price. I may but when the price is reasonable but right now it is definitely a no buy for me.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
It's definitely a little pricier than I hoped, but perhaps as things recover it will become more reasonable.
@neblolthecarnerd 3 жыл бұрын
A Tribe Called Cars yea I hope it does. I was gonna get a g29 as my first wheel but was saddened to know that it won’t be next gen compatible. I was happy to see a next gen come out. But then I saw that they hiked the price way to high (50 quid extra would have been reasonable not 100) i was saddened. However when this thing comes down in price I’ll probably buy it as it’ll be a great deal then.
@Howie47 3 жыл бұрын
It is the same "manufacture's suggested retail price" as all the Gforce wheels since they started. And it has a whole new Force Feedback system, that must work very good. Or why would all the best Sims have already implemented it?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
@@Howie47 The problem is that the G29 or G920 got as low as £180-odd in the UK. The G923 is £350 in the UK at multiple retailers. Bit of a jump even if part of the problem is Corona affecting manufacturing.
@Howie47 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars There is two things in marketing you need to be aware of. "Supply and demand" and "Manufacture's suggested retail". The later is usually always much higher then actual retail. But if demand goes up, then retailers keep raising the price. Hope that informs you.
@FrenchyJr 3 жыл бұрын
Should I get this with the Logitech stick shift for snowrunner??
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
The Logitech support is okay but the stick shifter won't do much as SnowRunner is largely automatic.
@FrenchyJr 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars well that sucks
@sethlouden2529 3 жыл бұрын
I upgraded from a t80 and love it
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, glad you like it.
@JONACAN 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone think the G29 pedals are better with a rig though? Because you'll be able to press as hard as you want, as intended without the pedal base slipping across the floor? If I'm correct, the reason for the progressive spring in the brake pedal this time round was due to the consumer feedback from the G29 brake rubber stop pedal. Being the pedal base slipping across floors as a result of having to involve more pressure when applying the brake, due to the rubber stop (which I think with a rig it gives a more realistic breaking experience my theory is) in the G29 model. The progressive spring with the new model just provides a lighter resistance as I can only guess statistically most users have the pedal bases on their floors which means less chance of the pedal base sliding or moving across the floor or carpet or whatever, maybe? Therefore, as I have a rig to securely bolt the pedal base to, I propose maybe using the G29 pedal set with the G923 wheel for a more optimum experience if you have a rig ? Or do you think the progressive spring is just simply better, thoughts please?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
You want brake travel, make it too tough or short and you end up with less feedback and a system more like a switch. The newer system is nicer to use and more intuitive in my opinion. It's why the T-LCM pedals are better still - precision usually wins out.
@JONACAN 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars Cool, I just brought the G923 so shall happily embrace the progressive spring version, in good haste kind sir as well I may add! Although I would love the thrustmaster TG 2, but it's slightly more than double the price of the G923. But I'm just a bin man budget sim racer anyway, when compared to today's standards.
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
@@JONACAN Honestly, I think both wheels are on a par so you are not missing much. Some people think the Logitech feels more natural, others disagree. The main thing is whether you enjoy it right! It might be worth looking up settings to get the best from it, depending on each game. Or embrace ignorance and never concern yourself with this stuff. Although I personally think making the steering lighter is more realistic. Good luck!
@JONACAN 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars Logitech the best when it comes to gear drive wheels anyway, and yes I love it will be great the truforce with gt7. I've never played with a belt or direct drive ever anyway. And fir me it feels like when I'm driving my civic ep3 type R in real life. So it's awesome the Logitech experience.
@silencewolfgamer1419 3 жыл бұрын
Tribe called quest
@i_am_wi11_ 7 ай бұрын
My buddy never got into the sim racing so now I’m buying this set up off of him . I told him I’ll borrow it and decide if I wanna buy it or not lol
@ATribeCalledCars 7 ай бұрын
Hope you enjoy, it's a decent start in sim racing!
@joppseven8987 2 жыл бұрын
Is your channel named after A tribe called quest?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
It's named after a few things.
@capote5000 3 жыл бұрын
Does both version (Xbox & PlayStation) of the g923 works with both consoles (Xbox & PS4)? Thx
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
They might work but you'll have the wrong buttons so stick with the platform you use most.
@capote5000 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars I'm thinking about buying a series X & a PS5 down the line, so I would like to know for sure because I don't want 2 cars wheel
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
@@capote5000 Makes sense and a difficult choice because you have Forza and Gran Turismo on different platforms. At least many others are multi-platform.
@LuxyTheRabbit 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, only if Logitech develops a vibrating pedal then I'll get one..😄
@abuelb 3 жыл бұрын
Just get a buttkicker Gamer 2. Your entire rig will vibrate including your wheel and pedals
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the vibrating gearstick too.
@bamboo9666 3 жыл бұрын
And a vibrating helmet
@shantelmota650 3 жыл бұрын
Is it compatible with the shifter?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
As far as I'm aware, yes. But I've not tested it personally.
@matthewsims7817 3 жыл бұрын
How do you turn off the inbuilt speakers?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
I think it's in-game, if I recall correctly.
@matthewsims7817 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars yes true
@hamzehomari 3 жыл бұрын
Can you make guide videos on simulator setups at different price points and the parts you would need?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good, I've been thinking about doing more sim racing stuff as I have so many different accessories now. Bear with me!
@F34R- 8 ай бұрын
so im here 2023 with about a bufget of £350 should i buy a g923 with shifter and handbrake or is there other options for the same price that will give a better expirience
@ATribeCalledCars 8 ай бұрын
If you can ditch the shifter, a Fanatec CSL DD (5Nm might be in your budget, depending on where you live) will feel much nicer to steer.
@F34R- 8 ай бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars that wheel looks great but the lack of clutch pedal is the quite the turn off i probably should of mentioned im wanting a wheel for drifiting on gran turismo 7 and assesto corsa with the occasional gt3 racing between the g923 and g29 is the difference really worth the extra£70
@ATribeCalledCars 8 ай бұрын
@@F34R- G29 is worth going for if you save £70.
@mitchymoo7752 2 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the race game you are playing.? It looks great.
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
iRacing on PC is in there, which time in the video do you mean?
@hossamghost2684 Жыл бұрын
I have G29 and disconnect on ps4 when play Grain turismo or snow Runner how to solve this problem…….
@ATribeCalledCars Жыл бұрын
You could see if there has been a firmware update by connecting to a laptop/PC and running the relevant software (G Hub I think). Although it could be a game-specific issue so worth a Google in case.
@ImZenkas 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what the demolition derby game is called?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Wreckfest.
@sauceysteph3307 3 жыл бұрын
Is crew comparable with the new one?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
I believe so.
@TGUNNER777 4 ай бұрын
I’d like to know everyone’s thoughts on the TruForce feature on GT7.
@RexxReviews 3 жыл бұрын
For the record the unit this replaced was also $399
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
It got really cheap in the UK before Coronavirus, but yeah the RRP was that.
@abuelb 3 жыл бұрын
250 when I bought it new at best buy
@TwoWheelInferno 3 жыл бұрын
Does the Logitech shifter work with it?
@slowanddeliberate6893 3 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Yes times two.
@Phoenix135tube 3 жыл бұрын
Not on the PC. Purchased a Driving Force Shifter with the G923 (after I couldn't get Windows to recognise the G27 Wheel) only to discover that Windows can't see the Shifter. Fortunately, you can make a USB Converter for the Shifter and plug directly into a USB to map.
@stuartleckie 3 жыл бұрын
Vibratation based symphony. That phrase could have many uses. I’m so far behind in steering wheels. I ‘only’ have the very basic Logitech one that has the lacky band thing in it, it’s rubbish, so I just use controller most of the time. But, for me that’s ok, I race RC cars, so I’m used to that sort of interface.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
RC car racing sounds cool, I watched it as a kid. And yeah it's an interesting expression...
@stuartleckie 3 жыл бұрын
A Tribe Called Cars there’s a few drivers you might of heard of that did some RC racing before going on to full sized cars, some of them were quite successful too. Pedro De La Rosa was good, I raced against Gordon Shedden before he got his BTCC start. And Lewis Hamilton’s first TV appearance was on Blue Peter driving RC cars. Even Ayrton Senna was into the hobby. I think most of the folks I race with would race full sized cars if they had the budgets. And the talent 😆 But you would be surprised how in depth the setup stuff is in a car 1 10th the size of a full sized car.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah my inner nerd would lose years if I bought myself one of those mini off-roaders from Tamiya. They look so cool and the videos would suit the channel, but I'm not sure how many would actually watch. Maybe one day!
@stuartleckie 3 жыл бұрын
A Tribe Called Cars checkout the channel Tamiya Legends on you tube. Careful you don’t get hooked though, you can lose days and days to that hobby 😃
@BadBoyV1 2 жыл бұрын
Been trying to find stock where i can get it on finance, PC/Xbox version.
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
Any luck?
@BadBoyV1 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars Na sadly not, Argos ain't stocked them in a big radius from where i live for a long time, I don't fancy paying over the top for one, i think ebay selers are buying them up and selling them for crazy money. Been nearly two years trying to get a wheel starting trying to get the G920 in 2020, One day i will get a G923🤞
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
@@BadBoyV1 Fingers crossed, I think the global chip shortage and general scalping should be less problematic as we cruise through 2022. Good luck!
@cody4684 3 жыл бұрын
Ps5 compatible? Should I wait and see if something better drops for that platform?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
It is PS5 compatible, but perhaps other accessories will be released so maybe it's worth holding fire until closer to the console's launch.
@cody4684 3 жыл бұрын
That's what I figured, thanks for confirming.
@karl343 3 жыл бұрын
You could get a Fanatec CSL elite for a little extra, it's much higher quality product.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
It's £500 and that's just for the two-pedal basic set unfortunately. So with the equivalent even more.
@karl343 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars True, but you've so many customization options, you can keep adding to your set-up over time, the force feedback is on another level.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
@@karl343 Yeah if you have more cash and know you're going to use the wheel a lot, maybe more investment is good. Although I personally think a reasonable wheel and a decent chair is a great start too. I have the CSL Elite, it's good. I'll probably do some steering wheel versus stuff soon and iRacing! Thanks for watching.
@Diggs4ever 3 жыл бұрын
@@karl343 Is it wireless?
@JoMaMaz 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars Yes, I would like that, a G923 vs CSL Elite. I know the CSL Elite is better according to performance and such, but, is it worth the extra money?
@gala-8407 3 жыл бұрын
will it work on fh4?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Yes although if you watch my video about Forza Horizon 4 and steering wheels there are caveats. Some cars work better than others. TrueForce is being added to more games in September/October, according to Logitech, and that could be FH4. But if not, the wheel will work without just like the G920/G29.
@edries8496 Жыл бұрын
At 1:03 the view of the wheel looks like a fennec from Rocket League
@rabbidstech7677 3 жыл бұрын
I'm probably just going to save another $200 and get the Fanstec CSL Elite.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
If you can afford, not a bad shout. I like my wheel a lot and you can always add bits later.
@ali94hn 3 жыл бұрын
Just remember that the CSL elite wheel is 500 euros for that... a WHEEL... no pedals included, just a wheel and wheelbase (because Fanatec has interchangable wheels) but you get a wheelbase and standard steering wheel that works for pc and ps4, and you have to buy an xbox one wheel seperately if you want one.
@joebloggs7685 3 жыл бұрын
What one should I buy? I have a xbox one. As I was going to purchase a g920 I see this one and now I'm not sure.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Much of a price difference where you are?
@joebloggs7685 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars 350 for the g923 but that is without the gear shifter.so in all would be £400. The g920 is £250 with the gear shifter also. But haven't tried any of them myself.
@abuelb 3 жыл бұрын
@@joebloggs7685 the g920 is great if you calibrate it properly. I can give you my calibration if you need.
@IsandJako 3 жыл бұрын
when u are buying a ~~cheap~~ wheel then u got 2 options logitech wheel: takes 15 years to break thrustmaster: you have to send it to repair the second time you boot it up just get the csl elite
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the CSL Elite pedals can fail too lol. I'm lucky all three brands haven't broken on me yet.
@IsandJako 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars damn for real? you are quite lucky then
@glee4ever0923 3 жыл бұрын
So I accidentally bought my bf the PlayStation one instead of xbox one, do you think it will still work?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly not, you'll have to quietly exchange it!
@HFDay-qi6yc 3 жыл бұрын
What you think of the logitech G290 for xbox ? or what would you recommend
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good wheel, if substantially cheaper than the G923 it's worth it. Thrustmaster T300RS is an option but the cheapest version has two pedals that are less effective but the wheel is a bit smoother.
@ashton_gaming8670 3 жыл бұрын
2:47 will I be able to use this for forza horizon 4 and the crew?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah although Forza Horizon 4 isn't the best with a wheel. For drifting, it's fine. For racing, you'll want a high downforce car (I made a video about it, look for my Ferrari Evo XX).
@jg7702 3 жыл бұрын
The crew 2 is horrible for it. No remapping in the crew 2
@ashton_gaming8670 3 сағат бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCarsdoes the rev counter in the Xbox one actually work?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 сағат бұрын
@@ashton_gaming8670 Honestly, I cannot remember. Been a while!
@zj3338 3 жыл бұрын
How come you're lights aren't working?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Playing games before complete support was added, I think.
@iLLGetAlongWithYou 2 жыл бұрын
What was the corona price?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
I think above £300 for a while by quite a bit but it was hard to find stock. In the UK anyway.
@jibbersdelight1616 6 ай бұрын
Will it work on ps3 too?
@supahsnipersiopao3097 3 жыл бұрын
Would turning the volume loud enough to create vibrations negate any advantages of TrueForce?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Haha yes.
@Diggs4ever 3 жыл бұрын
Only thing I hate is all the wires you haft to deal with. its 2020 make the thing wireless only wire needed is power plug
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Don't remind me, I just had to rearrange all of them because I have my Xbox, PC, headphones, microphone, speakers, amp, game capture card, USB connectors, battery chargers, steering wheel and router all in the same area. Cable ties are your friend.
@ravenplate4733 3 жыл бұрын
This! It's like playing with a SNES/Sega Genesis pad in 2020! No way I'll buy a wheel again until they give us a product of this century and generation, not a 1994 one...
@Diggs4ever 3 жыл бұрын
@@ravenplate4733 Exactly I sold mine soon after purchase and said forget that until wireless comes out. I am shocked wireless isn't an option in this day in age
@LeOrangePotato 3 жыл бұрын
The thing with going wireless is that yoi have to consider input lag. Though, if you're worried about input lag, you probably won't be getting these. There are better options for more serious sim racers. Most people have dedicated sim racing rigs too or rarely unplug anything. So making them wireless would be catering to a very niche market imo. Unless people are willing to pay for more, I highly doubt that they'll even consider a wireless version.
@Diggs4ever 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeOrangePotato console controllers do not have any input leg same tech can be used inside these things. Input leg was an issue in 2005 haha. I use to have a sim setup with cockpit and vr headset. It was a total mess with 13 wires everywhere. There is no excuse for wired tech this day in age. It would raise the price of the unit maybe $17.00 if that. Input 🦵 is such an old argument jees. Here guy's buy this wired tech for your next generation console hahaha At least vr is going wireless guess they solved the input leg issue. I guess we will haft to wait for tech to advance mean while I will roll down my oled tv like wrapping paper and voice command my house to have everything ready when I get home while waiting for technology to evolve enough to get rid of input leg on my wired steering wheel. Maybe I will watch space x launch a few rockets and re land them. Hope there is no imput leg for commands sent to comand module. PS I will have nightmares about input leg now.
@CamCB 3 жыл бұрын
Does this wheel work with Oculus Rift S
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
You run the VR and steering wheel separately into a PC so presumably (I have the G2, not Rift S) if the game supports both you are okay. Which game or games?
@CamCB 3 жыл бұрын
@@ATribeCalledCars Well most likely Assetto Corsa, unless you have a better suggestion.
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
That is a good one to start with, decent racer!
@purestxnce6682 3 жыл бұрын
Is it good for drifting?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it is. If you have the skills.
@insvfficient 2 жыл бұрын
Would this work for xbox x series?
@ATribeCalledCars 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
3 жыл бұрын
So if my G29 (that I paid $200 for last year) does break down, Logitech have basically taken away the only reason for me not to upgrade to a T300.
@talon1706 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a two year warranty? :) My G29 is 4 years old and has no issues. I did have to spray cleaner into the pedal pots a few times for spiking. Read reviews on the t300.
@steveguy3 3 жыл бұрын
But can it run crysis?
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Yes at 700fps.
@drpepper5717 3 жыл бұрын
So over 12k people like me like your content interesting
@ATribeCalledCars 3 жыл бұрын
Who knows why haha.
@neandertalac 3 жыл бұрын
So this is G27 repackaged into G29 repackaged into whatever this is.
@obtainedlight4745 3 жыл бұрын
neandertalac it’s the G920 and some other thing mixed together
@SSmallwood 3 жыл бұрын
@@obtainedlight4745 yeah g920 and 29 mixed into one, plus hopefully they fixed internal design flaws. the cable that runs thru the hub from the rim to the main PCB wore through and snipped a wire, even after soldering it mashes buttons on its own
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