5:11 I have owned the G29 for over 4 years and the only damage I have is the paint on the little blue strip at the top of the wheel has rubbed off. Apart from that, the wheel is still good after 900+ hours on racing games. pretty good wheel in all honesty and does the job

My Thrustmaster T150 has served me well the past 5 years, and it would still serve me good. But i decided to upgrade - The rubber grip has gotten very sticky, and the table mount screw isn't the most stable but the quality of the internals is solid for the price. The plastic grip of the screw is easy to break when installing the wheel on a table, especially if you want to really tighten up the wheel on your desk. - After it broke two times, I've been pretightening the screw into then mount and just slid the wheel onto the table. The Force Feedback definetly isn't the best, far from it. But for beginners or casual Sim-driving/racing the wheel is perfectly good. I played on 60-70% force feedback strenght most of the times, because i had a wobbly desk, but also because the force feedback didn't clip as much and preserved detail. Even though it lost strength because of it, it made much more fun to play with more details. The Thrustmaster eco-system also comes in handy if you're having fun in the long run, because you could get the three pedal set and the shifter as you mentioned. And if you want to upgrade the wheel base, it isn't a problem because the eco-system also works on other wheel-bases. That's a way to save a little bit of money if you want to upgrade to more serious stuff. The buttons after five years have shown it's age though, at least on my t150. - Some of them were double-clicking or even triple-clicking on some occations, which made it really annoying to do actions (for me, turning on lights in Euro Truck Simulator 2). It still was usable, but with the other issues i had (sticky grip and damaged screw), it made it somewhat annoying to use. - Put some kind of bicycle grip tape on the wheel to prevent that, or use it when it's needed. Another solution would be to get sim-racing/driving gloves, although it deminishes the already weak force feedback of the wheel. All in all, it's a solid racing wheel that could last 10 years, if handeled properly and having the luck on not getting a faulty product, which can happen to anyone, if we're being real here. I personally had more issues with Logitech-wheels with the quality side of things. My Driving Force GT started smoking after the FFB-motor died, and friends of mine had software-problems with the G27 and also the G29 on the PC. - But I've also had some other friends around me that are very happy with the Logitech wheel. In conclusion, if you can get the g29 for 200€ (new), go for it. The build quality is better compared to the T150, and the force feedback seems even or a tad bit stronger than the one of the T150. On the other hand, if you can get the T150 Pro (with the 3-pedal set) for around the same price, I'd personally go for that one, simply because of the upgradability path and my previous experiences with both companies' wheels. I hope i helped you guys with that. If you have any questions, feel free to ask.

Some G29 advantages you didn't cover: -although the force feedback is loud on rough terrain, the actual spinning of the wheel is smoother and quieter when driving slowly or on smooth surfaces -the force feedback can spin the wheel much faster than the T150 can, very noticeable when drifting -the G29's base is low profile and flat on the top, if you have an adjustable screen you can set it up so you can see your gauges through the wheel itself, just like in a real car -the stiff brake pedal is a feature, it only gets hard to push at about 65% of the travel, simulating the feel of the hydraulics in the brake pedal of a real car, it feels really good when you get used to it

I'm not here so i can buy either the g29 or the t150, I'm here because of the level of production that you put in your videos, keep it up bro! 💯

I have had my G29 for 6 years now without any problems and I use it quite frequently. Best purchase I have ever made

3:37 I wont let that mis shift go unnoticed

Found your channel the other day. Man, I wasn't expecting this level of quality from an 8,000 subscriber channel. Well done!

I’ve had the t150, absolute great wheel for the price! Soon gonna upgrade to the thrustmaster tx leather edition. Going to install magnet padel shift mod on that one

I was also considering both but ultimately went with the T150 mostly because it costs 46% less in my region (while the G29 costs as much as the T150 Pro model).

Yesss this is perfect i was wondering which was better to buy. Thank you

The torsion spring in the brake pedal of my T150 snapped after just 2 weeks of use. Luckily, my local hardware store had some. I walked into GameStop and found the T150 for 150 bucks and bought it on impulse in 2022 and thus began my sim racing career. I love it for the cost.

Well done! This video really helped me make a final decision so much appreciated.

I have a Thrustmaster T150 basic model, I agree that the pedals are poor quality, but I like the feel of the wheel. I mounted it on a playseat challenge and have been quite happy with the setup for starting out on sim racing.

Nice comparison ! Personnally I don't own any, I still rely on my old Logitech G27, but the G27 being the predecessor of the G29, and having used the G29 for a few minutes at a demo stand a few years ago, I prefer Logitech

Appreciate the comparison as I'm looking into getting a setup for GT7.

Hey man, I'm brand new looking at steering wheels to drive. I just wanted to let you know that I've watched like 6 of your videos lol, you're the best youtuber for this info. Thanks homie.

My favorite part about the Thrustmaster is cross compatibility. I started on a TMX (Xbox version of T150) and slowly started to get a shifter, new pedals, and I didn’t have to get a whole new wheel. And when I had the cash, I could just get a new TX base and it worked with all my old stuff

Had a T300 which crapped out after about a year. Since I didn’t have much faith in Thrustmaster after that, I bought a G29 as a replacement . Couple of years later it’s still going strong. I pretty much only use it for Gran Turismo and Dirt Rally 2.0 on my PS4 Pro, so it’s perfect for my needs.

Thanks for the informative video! Really helped me understand some more about choosing an entry level wheel for a drifting sim 🤘 brotha

Nice work! The little humor inserts were right up my alley. Liked and subbed

Having owned the G29 for many years I can recommend it as a started wheel as it has everything you need out of the box with a good pedal set bundled in and the FFB is not bad at all, but if you are into sim racing in any big way, try to stretch to the Thrustmaster T300RS GT which is sometimes on sale and it a great step up from both the G29 and T150 etc...In fact a huge jump up...Good video...

I've been looking at racing wheels for a long time and have just not been able to pull the trigger on buying one. This has to be the best, most comprehensive, comparison that I have seen.

Thank you good man ive been looking for a sim racing setup for around $1000 which includes the rig and everything i couldnt decide what wheel to get and you helped me decide to get the g29

i have the g29 ive had it almost four years was thinkin a tmx would be an upgrade but with the quality of your video im most likely going to stay with it and switch to a different wheel on the base like an nrg or something thanks man i really appreciate it

Awesome, I was waiting for this one! Great video!

I have had the the T150 for .... like 2 years now and it's a pretty good wheel I have a friend who has a Logitech and he said that its pretty good all depends on what you like

I decided to go with the G29 because of the overall quality. I don't find it noisy, when I was experimenting with gain and damping settings the only time it sounded like grinding gears was when the ffb signal was actually clipping. Yes, gears. They have small end play and friction. I get the best experience when I turned everything damping-related to 0 and upped the gain to the point of near-clipping. The pedals were ok-ish, they are sturdy and withstand abuse. Default brake spring could use an upgrade and there third party upgrades available. Bad thing about pedals is the potentionmeters and their lack of resolution. Default potentionmeters hooked to the wheelbase get 8bit resolution. If you purchase an adapter that let's you hook up the pedals directly to the usb port the resolution is amped up to 10bit = 1024 points from 0-100%.

I'd say another thing going for the Logitech are additional buttons. Not necessarily as far as racing goes, but in ETS2/ATS it's nice to have the little wheel for cruise control, or the +/- buttons for the retarder. And the FFB is not as important in those either.

I use a Playseat Evolution GT with a G29, Logi h-shifter, and TM Handbrake(drifting). In my point of view, I would def take the Logitech wheels. And besides, it IS pretty hard to drift with 1080 degrees, even with all the force feedback.

As for the build quality and sturdiness of Logitech wheels, I have owned a Logitech G25 since it's release and used it heavily and it still works perfectly. Only issues I've had have been with the shifter. I've had to take it apart and tighten the inside screws few times and once I had to solder a piece of wire to the switch that controls reverse. I have heard that some G27s and G29s suffer from overheating when playing for long perioids, but this can be fixed by cutting fer holes to the case or even adding fans. As for what you said about the Logitech pedals and the "too stiff" brake pedal, I see that as an upside and have even replaced the springs so that the pedals are even stiffer. Finally, Logitech pedals can be disassembled and mounted upside down (which I have also done) very easily.

My first setup was a t150 with a logitech g29 shifter. You just need some wires, soldering stuff, and an arduino microchip. The code is very easy to find.

I've been waiting for you to make this video for forever now. But Its finally out now about to watch it for the first time. Thanks OC

Another great upload. I just recently bought the G920. Thank you for the awesome quality content you're putting out. I'm looking now into purchasing a shifter.

My first ever wheel was a Thrustmaster T80, and it lasted me like 2 years (pretty good for the quality lmao), but the plastic pedals were the first ones to have problems on it. When I upgraded to a "beginner" T150, I intentionally chose the T150 Pro, and it was well worth the extra $50 for the T3PA pedals!

I'm currently in no state to get myself a new set and I'm working with an old trustmaster Xbox360/PC wheel (2 pedals no force feedback, or any feedback for that matter) what kinda works good enough for now, I'm here for the amazing content though and for whenever I'm able to get me a nice new Logitech or again trustmaster one. Awesome vid dude.

MY Thrustmeter Tmx Stripped the pully gear only after 6 months of use. I just recently picked up a Logitech g920 Wheel and its holding up great.

You know its gonna be good when you get my attention before the video starts 😅

tbh, on sim racing it's not about the looks it's about the performance, also personally i prefer the rubber on my t150 and i feel like i have better grip with it. And the better ffb is a huge thing for me

You are the best KZfaqr ever! You answered all my questions on these steering wheels and I have bought the G29! THANK YOU!

Using T150 using the T3pa pedal for 3 years and it still working well, just little cosmetic damages like the rubber grip on the wheel after hours of uses and i have tape it to improve my grip, I glad that previous PS4 wheels will be compatible with PS5 as well

I've had the Logitech Driving Force Pro for over 20 years now and apart from the wheel being loud(which I don't remember if it has always been or if it got louder) and the force feedback not being great(which is to be expected). I have had 0 issues with it

long time TMX Pro owner here: i really love my TMX but my friend owns the Logitech G920 and the modability keeps it alive way longer

Man your just amazing, i hope one day I will be able to afford such wheels, I'm just watching them cos ur reviews are down to earth and honest.

Thank you! This was very helpful!

I have had my T150 for well over 5 years and it's been a fantastic wheel. Someday I will upgrade to a T300 wheel but that someday might be in the far future

one big reason i’m getting tmx is cause with thrustmaster later on after having t3pa pedal and shifter i can upgrade just the wheel and not have to get a whole new setup

The effort put into these videos is unreal, keep it up bro

I've since upgraded to a TS-PC base from TM, but when I owned a G29 I had a blast with it, however, one major gripe I had with it, was the paddle shifters, the way they're designed meant I'd slam my finger tips off them anytime I'd try to drift.

Can you make a video where you rate all the driving games you played with the wheels and put them in a ranking list?

I just ordered a G920 last night! Super hyped to get it in, only paid 150 and it has the shifter!

thanks for the comparison i was on the fence about them

Having used both, I would say that the ffb on the logitech wheels are better than the tmx, although I have had my tmx for about 3½ years now and wear might have affected it

You actually can use the logitech shifter as a standalone. It just requires a dongle.

The Logitech G29/G920 is by far the best entry level wheel. The leather rim looks great and even after a year of daily use its still looks like new. In fact, it still smells like rich leather. The FFB is pretty good and even a bit stronger than the TMX/T150 (2.2NM vs 2NM). If you don't have any experience with other wheels you will be blown away with the feedback, even with the slight notchy feelings of the gears. I was completely happy with my G920, untill the CLS DD came out. Just 4 weeks and I will finaly get mine.

Thanks bro helped a lot and fixed the issue

Me and my heavily modified G 920: hmmm

Thank you God I wish companies would post stuff like this. Like just simply stating how each model differs slightly from the others. So insightful 👏 thanks

I have owned both. I started off with the T150 when i was getting into iracing before i was sure it was something i would continue to do for a long time. after i fell in love with sim racing, i upgraded to the g920 simply mounted to my desk with pedals on the floor. today, the g920 is mounted on an Obutto Revolution cockpit and i have a machined wheel adapter and 35cm deep dish wheel on it, deep dish paddle shifters, I have mods for improved feel h pattern and sequential modes on the driving force shifter, and i also have modded the brake and clutch pedals for improved feel. even umodded, my vote would be logitech because it has less of a "toy" look and feel about it even though the "genuine leather" wrapped around the wheel definitely feels like plastic.

This is a great video, you really helped me to choose! :)

Just watched three of your videos, you produce some great content. keep it up man , subbed

The t150 is good if u race a very generalized car list like something from every type of series, it’s thin rim makes it surprisingly good for formula cars, when I upgraded to a 300 I was honestly shocked at the difference in thickness, although those rubber grips can wear away so I recommend gloving up, the rubber is much MUCH thinner than the t300

About trucksims, the buttons on G29 are far more important than the extra 90 degrees rotation on both sides on T150. The two biggest issues with G29 are the deadzone in the middle and rattling which comes from loose gears

Great review. I had the Red Legend Thustmaster with the jumpcord "force feedback" a while ago. The clamping mechanism seems to be the same as the T-150, as well as the new T-248... This failed way sooner than i excpected it to. Recycling parts, and not including better quality pedals was what retered me to buying a G29.

Very good .. very well done .. informative You got this brilliantly man 😊👍👍

Just pulled the trigger on the g29 for $250 after watching it go back up to $400 for a few weeks.. it dropped back down to $250 and I immediately purchased before the price jumps again.. Bday present to myself🤷🏿‍♂️ lol just waiting for Gran Turismo 7

the g29 and g920 sounds like its breaking under load of the FFB especially if you try to counter steer or such. it sounds like there's gears in there and its making ratatatatatata sounds everytime and feels really jagged in ur hands.

Yess I have been waiting for this

I have the G29, and from my experience, the TMX and the T150 has better button placement. On the G29 I have to reach for the buttons and in F1 this is crucial because there is so much buttons to press in a race, where I feel the TMX and T150 has much easier button placement and reach.

4:20 wrong with a adapter the Logitech shifter will plug directly into the PC allowing you to use it with a thrustmaster or any other wheel, I know this because I bought the Logitech shifter with my t150 and later upgraded to the thrustmaster shifter.

I’m looking for my first wheel, ultimately for me it’s about price range. Also deciding if I want a more expensive one from the get go, because I may feel inclined to replace a cheaper one at some point

A demonstration of both wheels' noise levels would've been nice, that's the main thing I'm worried about - hearing "BRRRRR" every time I turn

Great comparison. You helped me a lot. I choose the T150. :)

As a thrustmaster fan whos owned a Thrustmaster T80, TMX, Tx leather edition, T150. I can say the force feedback and feel of the wheels feel amazing another thing to note is you cant compare a standart t150 to a g29 you have to compare the t150 pro. Thrustmaster has been amazing high quality good racing feel and realistic ffb.

I bought the t150 wih the pro pedals a while ago and I’m loving it. I’ve used the g29 but the t150 with the hybrid belt I’ve loved using. The t3pa pedals are the bets budget ones I have but be careful it does end up squeaking (anyone in comments know how to fix it)

Thanks for the comparison video, I like the t150 more, I feel that the design is cleaner. I'ma get one

I bought my T150 six years ago and it works but the cable for the pedals stopped working recently, overall very worth it and back then it costed 160$

I think I'm gonna get the logitech one as my first wheel ever

Was a bit late to the premiere but nonetheless a great comparison video.

Very professional. Keep it up man. Try to get ahold of a t248 to compare with other wheels. It’s in between beginner and novice. Cheers

Awesome review... thanks!

One point regarding shifters: you can get adaptors that allow the Logitech shifter to be used as a USB device, so it doesn't plug directly into the wheel, but into the pc. Currently using one with my Thrustmaster TX and it's worked without a hitch since I upgraded

Get the tmx pro and a pair of driving gloves. Then you won’t care about the lack of leather on the wheel. The belt driven FFB alone trumps the Logitech.

great vid mate, keep it up bro

This is a great review, I've owned the T150 and now have the G29 and agree the Logitech feels much nicer but it's just a bit noisier than the T150 which I can live with on my SIM stand.

I’ve recommended 3 people to this channel already, the quality is out of this world. KZfaqs algorithm has gotta favor quality over quantity. Because even on the 99$ wheel you give it all you got. Thank you so much for making such great content!

I haven't used a Logitech wheel. But I've had two thrustmaster wheels and they both crapped out within a month. One even lasted for just one f1 race weekend (100% event length). It worked fine for the first hour or so then it started registering split second left turns at full lock at random. I noticed it was also spewing alarming amounts of rubber dust out of the back of the wheel itself. So I am extremely weary of getting another thrustmaster. In a world of electronics designed to fail I'll take the Logitech any day. Also, if I didn't know any better I'd think "Thrustmaster" was an elaborate sex toy. I imagine some sort of jackhammer mechanism with several attachments that let you select the level of girth you'd like to recieve. Maybe a gimp suit comes with it. Do you think there was a mix up at the trademark office headquarters? And now there's a dildo out there called the Race Wheel 9000? And do you suppose it craps out after 1 use like their sim racing counterpart? Seems I got a little off topic. Fuck it. I'm posting anyway. I gotta quit using the youtube comments section as a convenient creative writing/journal entry platform. And POST

Thanks for the review :>

My first wheel (and the one I use) is a Logitech G923, which I won in a giveaway. I love it. It's been a great introduction to sim racing, and I hope to upgrade to a better one on a few years.

i got the thrustmaster t150 and it broke the same day i got it and even before it broke it really wasnt that great of a wheel , i got the g29 now and im much happier with the g29 then the t150

everyone: _fighting over who’s better_ me who uses a g27 knowing i can get twice more buttons if i upgrade to a newer logitech wheel: *laughs in god mode*

OFC u can use Logitech shifter with t150 or any thrustmaster wheel, there is a lot of adapters on market

Thanks for the review, I found both wheels for $120 and I couldn't decide which should I buy - your comparison is very helpful, and I think I'm going to settle on G29

Would recommend the T150 PRO. Do get the pro the pedals and the other version are shit. Yes the Logitec might be nicer to look at but thats not what you'll be doing. You get a better racing feel out of the Thrustmaster hardware. If you end up loving simracing you might end up buying add on's. The shifter for example on the logitec is a toy. The Thrustmaster is heaps better. If you end up upgrading over time you can bring the pedals and shifter along for any othter thrustmaster wheel you buy as it all interacts. As i read here before if you got a bit more money to spend the T300 GT edition is a great bundle. But the really isn't anything wrong with the T150 pro. At certain discounts i've seen through the years its an absolute steal.

Thrustmaster should send you a T248. Would love to see how that stacks up against the Logitech series, especially since it price matches the g923

Got a t150 on deep sale from GameStop. Wheel is fine. Pedals aren't great, but it's adequate for Truck Sim and arcade games. Sim racing, it's so-so. Maybe play with low ABS. They offer some resistance, at least. Best to get different pedals later.

Really helpfull. Big thanks.

it's 2021, the fact that there are still gear driven wheels is sad. Let's hope Fanatec's CSL DD spurs more competition for DD wheels.

I will get Logitech thank you for the tip!!!

Great vid earned a follow ! :)

I’m just here to watch your videos and support you