LOKI: Every Clue That it Was Really KANG, All Along | MARVEL Series Explained

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2 жыл бұрын

Loki's finale revealed that the man behind the curtain was actually the new MCU villain Kang the Conqueror...kind of. He's actually more like the Marvel comics villain Immortus, an older version of Kang. But still, it's fun to go back and watch the show for every clue that it was actually Kang the entire time.
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@ScreenCrush
@ScreenCrush 2 жыл бұрын
Tell me your theories.
@evilaxolotl6339
@evilaxolotl6339 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that there'll be a timeline where Kang is your Mom
@rafster1959
@rafster1959 2 жыл бұрын
Kevin Feige will be the final MCU vilian, he will team up with Deadpool and destroy the ultimate 4th wall.
@blackdoug9903
@blackdoug9903 2 жыл бұрын
By the way the window from the castle and loki throne chair is same symbol.
@matthewnugent-marcoux3658
@matthewnugent-marcoux3658 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan, Paul over at Heavy Spoilers has been hitting you *hard* these last few videos he's posted. You gotta hit back, man 🤣
@jakeschmidt2649
@jakeschmidt2649 2 жыл бұрын
ScreenCrush is better than New Rockstars
@R0B1NG5
@R0B1NG5 2 жыл бұрын
You either die a hero or live long enough to be a Kang.
@allmight5465
@allmight5465 2 жыл бұрын
Or live long enough to see yourself get conquered by Kang
@williamkang1481
@williamkang1481 2 жыл бұрын
I was born this way, so I must be the exception.
@allmight5465
@allmight5465 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamkang1481 lol
@childeaterieatkidz4208
@childeaterieatkidz4208 2 жыл бұрын
Lol everyones probably a kang and just doesn't know it
@Jayr8367
@Jayr8367 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamkang1481 Just another variant.
@ratchetd3
@ratchetd3 2 жыл бұрын
Hulk started the loop because he doesn’t like stairs
@dominiquejones3805
@dominiquejones3805 Жыл бұрын
Hulk hate stairs
@TricolorJester1
@TricolorJester1 2 жыл бұрын
Anybody else realized that the MCU has successfully set up an "uno reverse" so-to-speak style method of being able to reboot an entire franchise without it seeming entirely like a cash-grab and a bit more acceptable as the multiverse?
@999Aces
@999Aces 2 жыл бұрын
Multiverse isnt new at all brew. If you read any comics. They literally do this all the time. Cant make movies if all the superheros die lmao
@TricolorJester1
@TricolorJester1 2 жыл бұрын
@@999Aces that was my point lmfao
@officialomatu8766
@officialomatu8766 2 жыл бұрын
@@TricolorJester1 DCEU can adapt crisis on infinite earths. It's not specific to marvel
@TricolorJester1
@TricolorJester1 2 жыл бұрын
@@officialomatu8766 but the MCU is the topic here lol hence why DC wasnt mentioned. 😅
@wildshark9248
@wildshark9248 2 жыл бұрын
@@officialomatu8766 but they haven’t. DC has been shitty with executing live film. Snyder cut was good, but it doesn’t really do much in its own.
@dillonobrien8793
@dillonobrien8793 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the see you soon just meant another variant of him would see her soon
@JacobHJones
@JacobHJones 2 жыл бұрын
Could be. He also said whatever they decided to do he would end up back there...
@chimericalical
@chimericalical 2 жыл бұрын
He said if he is killed it results in the multiverse spreading out of control, which leads to more kangs, which leads to the multiversal war, which leads to a Kang eventually ending this war and starting the TVA to prevent more kangs... So, he’ll end up back there anyway. If they take the job... then, something new.
@MrLarry
@MrLarry 2 жыл бұрын
@@BCOG1691 yes he died, but because of time travel he’s also still alive
@IceCold_Carter
@IceCold_Carter 2 жыл бұрын
@@BCOG1691 this version of him is dead...but there’s still a him that wasn’t born yet somewhere
@chimericalical
@chimericalical 2 жыл бұрын
@@BCOG1691 He means she’s going to see a version of him that is essentially exactly the same as him. She kills him and the chain reaction leads to a version of him that is exactly the same as the one she killed.
@doomhammer3022
@doomhammer3022 2 жыл бұрын
"...green and purple, the colours of Kang and Immortas, and really like all most villains..." *Barney intensifies*
@cuca_
@cuca_ 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaa
@jorgeestefania3184
@jorgeestefania3184 2 жыл бұрын
When the infinity stones were introduced I was blown up. They had the power to control any aspect of the universe. Is there any power stronger than that? Well, it turns out that the stones are only simple rocks compared to the control of the Multiverse. I’m as hyped as I was years ago when I first saw Thanos and the stones
@francargeric1
@francargeric1 2 жыл бұрын
Kang never meant to let Loki and Sylvie rule the TVA, it was a ruse to divide them. Not only what he offered but the way he offered it. Kang paved the way for them to get there, so he could die and a different Kang eventually takes the same place after the multiversal war, or maybe even himself and by dying he is letting himself have a life again until he reaches the same point in time.
@kevinslater4126
@kevinslater4126 2 жыл бұрын
Doug: I am not Kang THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT KANG WOULD SAY!!!!!
@joshualerat8296
@joshualerat8296 2 жыл бұрын
But its not
@williamkang1481
@williamkang1481 2 жыл бұрын
I would not
@redpanda9367
@redpanda9367 2 жыл бұрын
So Bruce was right in Age of Ultron when he told Tony “It’s a loop. This is, I’m stuck in a time loop here.”
@donbagert
@donbagert 2 жыл бұрын
Bruce is perceptive - that's why Tony asked Bruce to psychoanalyze him in Iron Man 3 LOL
@redpanda9367
@redpanda9367 2 жыл бұрын
@@donbagert exactly!
@daniell5740
@daniell5740 2 жыл бұрын
Um no lol this show or script wasn’t even thought of at that point
@redpanda9367
@redpanda9367 2 жыл бұрын
@@daniell5740 lol no kidding. It’s called a retcon. And a joke. And how is that confusing?
@apIthletIcc
@apIthletIcc 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just waiting for everyones frustration when they realize that what happened in Loki means that a new, more powerful (and gold) Ultron will emerge from the void.
@MrArturoArrona
@MrArturoArrona 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that Kang was looking for a Loki in all the multiverse to be willing to kill him. That’s why there were so many of them pruned. But he was experimenting with them and then he change his approach and considered stealing them when they were little. That’s why kid Loki and the child Loki (sylvie) but because she scape then he knew she was the one. That’s why Kang emphasized in saying that she will never trust anyone. And the nexus event went Loki and sylvie were together in lamentis was because she was starting to trust Loki. And if that happen Kang wouldn’t die. In a way the glorious purpose of Sylvie was to kill Kang and start the multiverse. Which make sense since Kang was already tired and bored (he said that).
@mpjstuff
@mpjstuff 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think so. He could get anyone to wield a knife and hold still. What he needed from any Loki is the "change agent" property. He's opposite to a Nexus being like Wanda that is the same in all Universes -- he's always different. Things are only predetermined because Kang is inevitable because of Kang starting the Universe, and the pruning of the branches. Predeterminism is necessary because of chaos.
@knowhere9121
@knowhere9121 2 жыл бұрын
Well if multiverse is inevitable. So is Kang. So its just a rinse and repeat I guess
@liyuu7033
@liyuu7033 2 жыл бұрын
thats also what i think i mean, how does Being a girl means ur a variant. I mean being a variant means you did something that wasnt supposed to happen. So technically Sylvie who became a variant just because she is a girl, Its not her fault to be a girl. Means someone purposely made her to be a girl so she would be a variant.
@mpjstuff
@mpjstuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@liyuu7033 Sylvie wasn't a variant because she was a girl -- she was a variant because ALL Loki's are. But a Loki is necessary to bring about the change to prevent the variations and dimension wars of Kang. Loki is like an inoculation for variance.
@ASHU.ASMITHA
@ASHU.ASMITHA 2 жыл бұрын
After the end of time , only slyvia killed kang. So it also meant that kang didn’t even know by himself that he is gonna get killed.
@rjdruhan
@rjdruhan 2 жыл бұрын
Theory: Miss Minutes is not really evil, she's actually purely a recording, made based off the script of everything, that Immortus/HWR has. She's programmed to respond to what he knows they must say/do. That's why she responds, "Both" when Loki asks what exactly she is.
@mylesculpepper7935
@mylesculpepper7935 2 жыл бұрын
Truth: Miss Minutes is an upgraded version of Friday because Kang is a descendent of Tony in the MCU Universe.
@JaeSproo
@JaeSproo 2 жыл бұрын
*I JUST END UP RIGHT BACK HERE ANYWAY* - Kang. Translation: Once Downey, Jr. - Johannson - Chris Evans - and the others we love are too old to continue being Avengers? Marvel can REBOOT THE ENTIRE MCU with younger actors and start another "20 year run". Smh. They got us coming and going.
@jasongarcia6877
@jasongarcia6877 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty smart tho
@JaeSproo
@JaeSproo 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasongarcia6877 they got us by the balls, man. LOLLLLLL
@emilxert
@emilxert 2 жыл бұрын
@@JaeSproo so Feige is Kang But Feige will have his versions only as his kids who will indefinitely produce new movies
@colonelsanders1617
@colonelsanders1617 2 жыл бұрын
That’s exactly it
@JaeSproo
@JaeSproo 2 жыл бұрын
@@emilxert LOLLL facts. they got us. we are stuck. Robert Downey who??? PFFFSST. $100 million per film? I got your $100 million right here, pal.
@mrjack8849
@mrjack8849 2 жыл бұрын
I like the theory that Kang is a descendant of Tony Stark and not Reed Richards like in the comics. Stark has been the centerpiece of most of the MCU. He discovered time travel initially 1000 years before Nathaniel Richards supposedly did. And in the Loki show, the version of Kang is wearing a similar time/tool thing on his wrist as Tony Stark created in Endgame.
@ricofed439
@ricofed439 2 жыл бұрын
That could be entirely possible. But it's a little strange how Tony Stark invents time travel in 2023, yet it's not until a millenium later that Kang discovers it and starts to meet variants of himself. You'd think that would've happened much sooner...
@donbagert
@donbagert 2 жыл бұрын
@@ricofed439 Kang/Immortus makes sure the sacred timeline "loses" the time travel theory/science and equipment so that it is "rediscovered" by his younger self in the 31st century :)
@donbagert
@donbagert 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm...Kang's MCU name could be Harley Stark...LOL
@mrcombustiblelemon2902
@mrcombustiblelemon2902 2 жыл бұрын
First Ultron, now Kang... Stark keeps stealing all the cool villains from the other MCU smartasses.
@daniell5740
@daniell5740 2 жыл бұрын
He died before he had kids….
@penthactussoul2634
@penthactussoul2634 2 жыл бұрын
What always bothered me is how the TVA judged the variants. How can you judge someone when he broke a law he knew nothing about and shouldnt know? And they ask for Lokis defense. Like, he was trying to escape. It really threw me off how flawed the TVA's justice system is. "We kidnap you out of nowhere. Now tell us your defense, without having time to even think of a defense, of why you broke the law you knew nothing about." Like bruh
@valorsayles3048
@valorsayles3048 2 жыл бұрын
This. The tva were authoritarian assholes that punished those that didn’t know they had done wrong.
@firebyrd7933
@firebyrd7933 Жыл бұрын
It is the same justice system of any anarchy. You do something the guy in charge doesnt like, you get killed.
@IHav3No3n3mies
@IHav3No3n3mies Жыл бұрын
The whole thing is rigged Kang does whatever he wants to make sure his timeliness isn't harmed. The system is just to keep things in line. There's no not guilty party. That's how I see it
@leomadero562
@leomadero562 Жыл бұрын
I think it has something to do with how they get new tva employees. If they did it accidentally and they're a good person/fit for the job, they'll take them in, if they intentionally broke time then they'll get pruned. If not then there wouldn't be any need for that fake justice system
@fictionverse7292
@fictionverse7292 Жыл бұрын
Hello, it’s all a lie. Which is why it fails? It’s not run by wise, benevolent gods but a mad conqueror
@luvadougla
@luvadougla 2 жыл бұрын
Just to point out that when sylvie killed the middle timekeeper, I believe this is when he who remains realized that she was the key to restarting the loop so that kang would once more be in control.
@willingcube5713
@willingcube5713 2 жыл бұрын
what do you mean?
@theinstrumentalists7193
@theinstrumentalists7193 2 жыл бұрын
@@willingcube5713 I think he means that this is one big loop with he who remains eventually ending up back on top until Sylvia comes and kills him again when he gets too old, this repeating a massive loop of sacred timeline, chaos, war, sacred timeline.. etc.
@cousinmerl
@cousinmerl 2 жыл бұрын
When Dr Bruce Banner said 'IM IN A LOOP' he's actually NOT WRONG.
@lukedodson3267
@lukedodson3267 2 жыл бұрын
But it's not a regular circle. More like a freaky circle.
@WbBUCK585
@WbBUCK585 2 жыл бұрын
When He Who Remains says “see you soon”, he’s just implying that the other versions of himself will start pouring out of these branching timelines and will start wreaking havoc. I don’t think he’s saying they are in a time loop.
@krasserkaiuwe9094
@krasserkaiuwe9094 2 жыл бұрын
but in 9:50 he did say they are in a time loop
@RojirigoD
@RojirigoD 2 жыл бұрын
@@krasserkaiuwe9094 Could be a time loop, but I like to think what he is saying is the implication that a multiverse war will generate a similar outcome, possible other kang using Aliot to kill all universes so he/a version of him will be at the end anyway.
@mccoyweatherspoon9434
@mccoyweatherspoon9434 2 жыл бұрын
I agree I think he's saying a worse version of his self was coming
@1kEZ
@1kEZ 2 жыл бұрын
y’all he is saying both while the evil variants of himself will come and wreck havoc one will also come and establish the tva and the sacred timeline
@Eeeeerjjejjejeirsshy
@Eeeeerjjejjejeirsshy 2 жыл бұрын
“It was Kang-atha all along!” I need a remix of this asap
@mrcombustiblelemon2902
@mrcombustiblelemon2902 2 жыл бұрын
"and I killed alligator Loki, too!" (wink)
@culturecanvas777
@culturecanvas777 2 жыл бұрын
🎵"it was only Kang all along."🎵
@culturecanvas777
@culturecanvas777 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrcombustiblelemon2902 oh that is evil ☹️ noooooo
@Eeeeerjjejjejeirsshy
@Eeeeerjjejjejeirsshy 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrcombustiblelemon2902 take that back 😡😡😡
@seannorton69
@seannorton69 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe many other Lokis were presented with the offer Miss Minutes presented and they took it.
@donbagert
@donbagert 2 жыл бұрын
You mean in different iterations of the time loop? Otherwise there would have to be a TVA for each timeline!
@nevbezaire
@nevbezaire 2 жыл бұрын
and so Kang "paved a road" that would create a Loki (or two) that were mature enough to not just want to rule
@kornkid13
@kornkid13 2 жыл бұрын
@@nevbezaire When a Loki matures enough to not want to rule, or could defeat kang, it's time for a new Kang. He needs to be one step ahead no matter what
@nevbezaire
@nevbezaire 2 жыл бұрын
@@kornkid13 what? He wants them to take over running the end of time and not want to go back and rule the nine realms. So Miss Minutes is the final test before he introduced himself and he's a step ahead.
@marquisbutler8924
@marquisbutler8924 2 жыл бұрын
"See you soon" implies that this will result in a paradox. There will not be another version of he who remains. This action is killing him causes the multiversal war in which he defeats the other version of himself. The only option at a different result would have been to stop the multiversal war or having them take control of the travel (maybe?).
@olivergarrick672
@olivergarrick672 2 жыл бұрын
I glad we got a version of kang as the main villain of Loki instead of bohner.
@burkhartlaw1
@burkhartlaw1 2 жыл бұрын
Boner. (Beavis voice)
@superpaul79
@superpaul79 2 жыл бұрын
Heh. Bohner.
@angrymario8259
@angrymario8259 2 жыл бұрын
Lol boner
@emarti3853
@emarti3853 2 жыл бұрын
I still think that was a fake name, Jimmy Wu had a witness stashed in the town
@nevbezaire
@nevbezaire 2 жыл бұрын
What a twist that woulda been! Ralph as He Who Remains
@88preludedude
@88preludedude 2 жыл бұрын
Best demo I've ever seen. Seriously amazing stuff!
@coryidle654
@coryidle654 2 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite MCU channel! EV pretends he doesn’t get advanced screenings still and Heavy Spoilers is dope but he tends to get way too picky. This channel is perfect!
@SheydokGear
@SheydokGear 2 жыл бұрын
Literally all of these aren't clues and nothing but assumptions. HILARIOUS.
@musicalaviator
@musicalaviator 2 жыл бұрын
Clues Kang was in the Loki Series: 1: It's in the comics. 2: but not in the series at all. The end.
@squidfizzy
@squidfizzy 2 жыл бұрын
What my son noticed without watching Loki is that the logo of the Time Variance Authority with the sword and shield looks like a face (Kang's face) in armor 🤯
@jeremylefevre9610
@jeremylefevre9610 2 жыл бұрын
Been watching the channel for a while but that free willy joke really won my subscription. Looking forward to more great breakdowns and fun gags.
@shakestheclone1995
@shakestheclone1995 2 жыл бұрын
A recap of your recaps. Genius.
@RajBauer
@RajBauer 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t say you were dead on when the last video that you released before the finale was that king Loki is behind it lol. I think we all hoped it would be Kang but when Maphisto didn’t happen we all thought thematically it made sense to go King Loki, I had this theory after the episode 2 reveal that it truly was Selvie. So I guess I beat screen crush to that theory by like 4 eps as well 😂 They were totally on their own island with the power broker theory in falcon and the winter soldier though.
@WhtSnwRvn
@WhtSnwRvn 2 жыл бұрын
The editing in this one is top notch. *chef's kiss*
@thomasconti3294
@thomasconti3294 2 жыл бұрын
@7:04 i like how mobius does that hang gesture pointing to his head to say that loki is smart so dope
@tiara1522
@tiara1522 2 жыл бұрын
LMAO! The fact that I got an A&F ad as soon as you start talking about them, hilarious!
@sylviatamieanan4088
@sylviatamieanan4088 2 жыл бұрын
5:43 "Time works differently in the quantum realm" "Time passes differently in the TVA" "Time passes faster in the Suburbs" (Wandavision, episode 5)
@sabbathjackal
@sabbathjackal 2 жыл бұрын
Jeff goldblum "time works differently here
@duderanchstripclub2562
@duderanchstripclub2562 2 жыл бұрын
Me as a kid calling the operator as a joke : "What time is it?"
@keyoskss615
@keyoskss615 2 жыл бұрын
If you think about it, Cap created that timeline branch like days after Loki used the Teseract that triggered his whole adventure with the TVA. So technically the multiverse would already exist, and that’s why it didn’t trigger the TVA for Cap. That’s my theory
@Bloodymecha
@Bloodymecha 2 жыл бұрын
I was so happy it was Kang or Immortus or whatever you call him, these shows and movies are always just 1 step away from bringing some crazy comic stuff that I was shocked to see they finally went with it.
@philipallred9647
@philipallred9647 2 жыл бұрын
I think Kang(TVA) sent the judge lady(can’t spell her name) to find the younger version of himself that helps him discover the multiverse and sets him on the path to being the one left behind. This starting and completing the loop.
@kmw4359
@kmw4359 2 жыл бұрын
ravonna renslayer
@philipallred9647
@philipallred9647 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmw4359 thank you. That was gonna keep bothering me.
@RSumm22
@RSumm22 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the TVA only takes Sylvie to begin with because she's the one who's supposed to restart the multiverse. I find it hard to believe they didn't know where she was hiding because Loki finds her almost immediately.
@mallucommenter4071
@mallucommenter4071 2 жыл бұрын
It was accidentally found
@prospersikhwari5289
@prospersikhwari5289 2 жыл бұрын
The TVA didn’t know but ‘Kang’ definitely knew
@phamdinhhoang1998
@phamdinhhoang1998 2 жыл бұрын
Loki is smart, tva are dumb, kang did not care
@N8kdmagazine
@N8kdmagazine 2 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered if Steve deciding to stay home caused the loop.
@JeffSerrano1
@JeffSerrano1 2 жыл бұрын
I think miss minutes is a nexus being and the TVA exists in the quantum realm.
@MuttonErase
@MuttonErase 2 жыл бұрын
I also thought the tvs existed in the quantum realm. But there's a problem with that theory. The quantum realm exists outside the timeline. And since in the MCU if you time travel into the past what you do there doesn't affect anything in your original timeline, doesn't that mean that Mobius memory of Loki should'nt've been erased even after hwr was killed?
@cna5018
@cna5018 2 жыл бұрын
Why hasn't anyone mentioned that the Sphinx looks like Kang?
@ChristochatBTW
@ChristochatBTW 2 жыл бұрын
I legit thought you were saying nexus bean I'm laughing my butt off right now
@Joe-xq3zu
@Joe-xq3zu 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@nicolasgonzalez-dk2lh
@nicolasgonzalez-dk2lh 2 жыл бұрын
My guess for the "see you soon" is that Kang knows that other variants of himself will show up and eventually face Sylvie, not that this is something that already happened and will once again.
@s_napps
@s_napps 2 жыл бұрын
We just started this phase and we can already see how it’s gonna go and I’m hype
@dominiquejones3805
@dominiquejones3805 Жыл бұрын
Johnathan Majors killed it!!!! Reminds me Love Craft Country
@girldaddividendinvestor
@girldaddividendinvestor 2 жыл бұрын
"Why did you take me as a child..." "Cause you started this sh*t."
@danielfenna-moran21
@danielfenna-moran21 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf tho it was the TVA, taking her as a child, that spurred her on to cause "this shit" 😂
@pie9667
@pie9667 2 жыл бұрын
the tva is in the quantum realm, thats how it's able to exist seemingly without time. and furthermore, magic is earlier explained to be science that current time does not understand yet. with Kang being from the future and also having access to the technologies from other multiverses, he would have been able to harness the power of runes, explained in wanda vision, in order to stop magical beings using their powers in the tva.
@jonbutt8664
@jonbutt8664 2 жыл бұрын
So HOLY CRAP this is deep!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow, now i remember why I love comics and most people just don't get it. Keep up the awesome content!!!
@k29king1
@k29king1 2 жыл бұрын
What nobody has talked about is when Immortus is explaining his story to Loki and Sylvie and you see all those Kangs along with the rest charges, and pruning rods is you also see what Kangs MCU suit looks like as all the Variants are wearing one. Take another look and you’ll see it. I’m amazed no one has picked up on that.
@SSVegeta937
@SSVegeta937 2 жыл бұрын
"You're guaranteed to run into a Chad because that's where Chads come from..." cut to Smart Water ad with Pete Davidson 😮
@macdaddy9344
@macdaddy9344 2 жыл бұрын
“The colors of all villains”… enters Barney… LOL
@saikv4328
@saikv4328 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@blaze556922
@blaze556922 2 жыл бұрын
I knew Prince was a villain!
@robsolo127
@robsolo127 2 жыл бұрын
The loki show was so great. I cant believe i slept on it for so long
@dudeat1320
@dudeat1320 2 жыл бұрын
When traveling on a Mobius Strip you go around the same loop twice but on opposite sides before starting over to repeat the path - Immortus timeline(s) then Kang timeline(s) then repeat.
@Itsnowthetime
@Itsnowthetime 2 жыл бұрын
I believe Kang the Conqueror revealed himself to Ravonna in one of the various timelines she has been through over the years. Before she pruned him or either reset the timeline he was in, I believe he told her that the “Time Keepers” (which we now know was really Immortis) was really the evil one and an enemy of free will. I believe she had an opportunity to have dialogue with him similar to how Loki spoke with Mobius in interrogation before he was supposed to be pruned. Given what has now taken place, Ravonna believes what that “Variant Kang” told her and she is now off to find that version or an earlier version of him that has not been pruned. I believe that’s what she meant when she said she was going to find free will. She was going to find the one that planted that seed in her thoughts especially now that it seems to be true. Of course none of this prior interaction has been revealed…. But I believe it will be when we see her again. And when we see her again she will be on the side of that Kang or a variation of Kang that she may mistakenly believe is the same one that planted that seed in her mind years ago on her TVA conquest. She will now be his partner and on the wrong side good and evil. All of the bad guys have had some type of female assistance in all of these movies. Even Loki 🤷🏽‍♂️
@Itsnowthetime
@Itsnowthetime 2 жыл бұрын
@Dutty Rock Reading and comprehension is the key to understanding.
@Itsnowthetime
@Itsnowthetime 2 жыл бұрын
@Dutty Rock Maybe you missed the part where he asked us to give our theories. (Ideas) Maybe you also missed the part where I said of course if this happened, “none of the prior interaction has been revealed”. Maybe you missed the thought that this is just a “what if” type of post… Maybe you missed the reading and comprehension part of class. I don’t know you personally to say either way, but either way go away! Have a great day.😀
@BrockSamsonite
@BrockSamsonite 2 жыл бұрын
Immortus John Connor'd himself by triggering Sylvie and forcing her to kill him. This is proven by the fact that the timeline begins to branch way before immortus gets stabbed meaning the branching started when Sylvie made up her mind to kill him, because characters present in the threshold write time on the timeline. But just like dr.strange did to tony in endgame immortus refused to tell Loki and Sylvie what would really happen because if he did it wouldn't have happened. Also he clearly verbally attacks and triggered Sylvie. "Sylvie! You really sure you can trust this guy?" / "Grow up, Sylvie! Grow up! Immortus was sent back by the council of kangs to ensure the multiversal war happens, which ensures immortus is created and sent back to watch and protect the timeline up to a certain point.(i.e. the threshold) to ensure his own creation as well as the creation of the other kangs.
@floppa7766
@floppa7766 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, it was inevitable. Immortus went through multiple scenarios and this was how everything ended. Sylvie kills him, the timeline goes to shit. This caused the nexus event as well. He never forced her to kill him. He knew this was gonna happen so he just kept trying to convince them why he shouldn't be killed
@saboorheath7769
@saboorheath7769 2 жыл бұрын
The animation sequences were a nice touch. Each time, I'm thinking "that looks like Jonathan majors". Ravonna could've went to the same location Loki ended up. Kang/immortus/he who remains is the CEO.. but he needs someone to oversee the day 2 day. Bring Ravonna in, tell her the truth, and let her run things. Could give her insight on each variant & who to recruit since the mission may have changed.. She doesn't want the tva to end, she needed to find the truth
@ghosttwo2
@ghosttwo2 2 жыл бұрын
I find in interesting to consider how the 'Kang problem' would be resolved once and for all. The core issue is that we had a single kang who used evil means to prevent more evil versions of himself from existing. If you stop his evil, you get more kangs. If you try to get rid of the other kangs, it's presumed to be a fruitless effort. The dilemma is that there are now unlimited kangs, and they will always be reduced to a single evil kang who does too much collateral damage to preserve his uniqueness. We also have the ambiguity of what caused the branch at the lake, which is probably a missing part of the puzzle; without it, the TVA wouldn't have rescued the lokis, and there'd still be one kang. The actual solution is missing too many pieces, but I suspect that it either involves tuning the timeline into a stable loop that doesn't branch, or adjusts the parameters to prevent time travel to begin with. It's interesting to note that the 'sacred timeline' can be literally seen outside, forms a ring, and that the palace exists outside of it.
@crow3973
@crow3973 2 жыл бұрын
Truthfully, when I watched this version of Kang/Immortus, I kinda got the vibe that he didn't really wanna stop his Variants from rising. I think that was a lie. I think he sorta slips up when he talks about the Variant version of him that discovered the multiverse. He says it was a Variant of him, but then when he talks about Alioth, he has this anger/frustration as he explains that he weaponized and experimented on Alioth and that led to him specifically ending the Multiversal War almost like he was blamed for the whole event after finding other universes. I think that Immortus is Kang, it's just he's ruling at the absolute level. He goes from ruling a bunch of universes to ruling all of time, the people that exist, and the choices they make. Whether he's Kang or Immortus, he's still in control of everything. I also think this plays into the whole Variant idea as a whole. Lokis, for example, always wanna cause mischief. Kang Variants always want to conquer. Immortus was just the Kang that conquered all of the timelines (or the ones they knew of maybe?)
@PTRMAN
@PTRMAN 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I see Mephisto in Doug's eyes.
@VishalHussain
@VishalHussain 2 жыл бұрын
Missed one that I noticed a bunch and was one of the reasons I was certain it was Kang. The amount of purple tinge throughout the show. Lamentis was all purple, and the whole show was filled with purple colouring. Like y'all I noticed the middle keeper as the focal point throughout and that was probably the biggest one for me.
@BIGJOHN092887
@BIGJOHN092887 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of details is mind-blowing. Marvel continues to surprise me.
@hajerabegum7406
@hajerabegum7406 2 жыл бұрын
my theory is that you are a varient of heavy spoilers
@RajBauer
@RajBauer 2 жыл бұрын
Heavy spoilers always posts vids first so I think you are right lol
@rickeywilliams6223
@rickeywilliams6223 2 жыл бұрын
Or is it the other way around?👀
@maks_st
@maks_st 2 жыл бұрын
@@RajBauer he actually put Ryan’s photo as his variant in his video on Loki episode 6
@Bsdel
@Bsdel 2 жыл бұрын
Since he who remains already destroyed all of the other timelines, wouldn’t he just be the version of Kang the conquerer that already won the multiverse war? I’m excited to see your time loop theory, because that’s been my impression since I saw the finale- I think he who remains didn’t understand the gravity or loneliness of watching over a timeline for all eternity and desperately wants someone to break the cycle and stop him from becoming Kang.
@joecas2000
@joecas2000 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you verbalizing this so well...I've been sitting here thinking of the story of Kang through a few lenses... The evolution of the current MCU timeline with the existence of time travel, which i imagine creates a whirlwind of good and bad characters seeking to gain access to the tech - or perhaps one of our beloved characters 'turning heel' to travel time....with the main team fighting to ultimately destroy/bury the time travel tech (which only Stark's brilliance can create wink wink), and then it's rediscovered or resurrected by Kang, who then creates a multiversal impact of travelling thru (enabling variants to do the same) and the eventual Kang storyline of multiple Kangs leads to major stories (multiversal war for dominance) ending in the Kang we see in Loki... And the suffering perhaps of this good Kang who is willing to finally die and let it all play out again for the future benefit of another Kang variant (not actually himself) who he believes which eventually overcome and the cycle continue. I'm super excited about the possibility of Awesome Character super teams that bring famous actor variants and even better, "Tom Holland-awesome" new versions of beloved characters like X Men which could have it's own dynasty (selected because I'm particularly excited about them specifically).
@shadowridin913
@shadowridin913 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@jaydot8104
@jaydot8104 2 жыл бұрын
ok. miss minutes "hey! yall" is now haunting my nightmares...and i like it.😅
@melomet3789
@melomet3789 2 жыл бұрын
I like how the branching timeline forms an "L" in the middle of the large triskelion.
@theechoproject539
@theechoproject539 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this channel said it was going to be another Loki variant running things as the big reveal?
@mrjack8849
@mrjack8849 2 жыл бұрын
They predict multiple endings then claim that they called whichever one it ends up being.
@RajBauer
@RajBauer 2 жыл бұрын
Haha they did lmao. That’s why it’s hilarious when they claim to be right
@MsVeeVee7
@MsVeeVee7 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost like theory crafting is fun and the people who watch this content genuinely enjoy it.
@theechoproject539
@theechoproject539 2 жыл бұрын
@@MsVeeVee7 apparently, gaslighting your audience into thinking you nailed a prediction when you didn't is fun too
@h.haussermann9642
@h.haussermann9642 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe it was Janet Van Dyne who started the time loop. The first person we know who got stuck in the Quantum Realm.
@atheosputeq
@atheosputeq 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, but the best thing about it is I love your dog dude
@MisterEMystery
@MisterEMystery 2 жыл бұрын
Screen Crush is in a time loop! Ryan mentions a video at 10:03 that’s “coming out soon that elaborates this.” referring to the MCU time loop video that came out 2 days earlier. Lol!
@olivergarrick672
@olivergarrick672 2 жыл бұрын
Just a theory : what if the camera was actually kang's (immortus) POV, that why he said that he saw everything!" Also I guess it's the reason why there were some "break in 4th wall" by sylvie because she should notice it (kang presents,but just ignored it.
@liggerstuxin1
@liggerstuxin1 2 жыл бұрын
Good idea
@nevbezaire
@nevbezaire 2 жыл бұрын
When did she break the fourth wall?
@PentoolistaTV
@PentoolistaTV 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure they wont be doing that again since they did it with wandavision. That will be boring
@olivergarrick672
@olivergarrick672 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if sylvie will regret what she did once she realized the chaos she has release.
@gavino299
@gavino299 2 жыл бұрын
I think perhaps the TVA already existed under the control of a group of (4? 3 in the TVA and He Who Remains at the end of time?) timekeepers and was toppled by Kang at some point. He then replaced the chamber keepers with animatronics and took over the position of he who remains. Since then he does everything in his power to make sure the loops continues because that keeps him in power over and over and for a very long time each time too.
@mattvrabel2072
@mattvrabel2072 2 жыл бұрын
I love Doug! And Doug’s music!
@SilortheBlade
@SilortheBlade 2 жыл бұрын
I'm still not convince Doug isn't Kang
@davidnabbit
@davidnabbit 2 жыл бұрын
He did wink, after all.
@Toners
@Toners 2 жыл бұрын
Doug started the loop. We all know it.
@iLLiCiT_XL
@iLLiCiT_XL 2 жыл бұрын
I've wondered ever since Endgame if Tony knew what was coming (Kang) but saw his actions as the only option and proceeded anyway, assuming his friends would figure it all out.
@sunnydalal3206
@sunnydalal3206 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on real life mysteries that were highlighted in loki e.g. DB Cooper, polybius etc. etc.
@profedelasmontanas9023
@profedelasmontanas9023 2 жыл бұрын
Free willy was a perfect time to make a “your mom” joke
@ryansproviero
@ryansproviero 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly it's the AoS time loop. In the end it'll all be in Coulson's head.
@cvr24
@cvr24 2 жыл бұрын
Miss Minutes sudden appearance in the fortress will forever haunt my mind
@MatthewMahoneyPortfolio
@MatthewMahoneyPortfolio 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think it implies a time loop at all. It seems pretty clear that Sylvie will soon be seeing the Evil Kang that he has been referring to.
@TheCloveart
@TheCloveart 2 жыл бұрын
"We?" Mephisto and Arnim Zola? That was totally Ryan and other youtubers. Mephisto was more widespread... but Ryan was really the only one that pushed Arnim Zola. Please don't put that on me, Ryan.
@colonelsanders1617
@colonelsanders1617 2 жыл бұрын
NewRockstars was on the Zola train hard
@TheCloveart
@TheCloveart 2 жыл бұрын
@@colonelsanders1617 Yikes!
@L1V1NGD3TH
@L1V1NGD3TH 2 жыл бұрын
"Uh-lye-oth" They even pronounce it IN THE SHOW that way...repeatedly...
@23Bandz_
@23Bandz_ 2 жыл бұрын
-uff *
@wanderingbufoon
@wanderingbufoon 2 жыл бұрын
The MCU is on a time loop because I keep replaying the series
@steveschmidt3961
@steveschmidt3961 2 жыл бұрын
lol i love that shirt on that dog!!!!!!
@MengsTel
@MengsTel 2 жыл бұрын
actually i would keep the young avengers like this the main roster will be the 4 teenagers/ young adult and kid loki, and wandas chidlren are little kids who pop in from time to time.
@eragonbromsson1122
@eragonbromsson1122 2 жыл бұрын
Just no, Wiccan and Speed need to age up, especially considering that Hulkling is probably coming in Secret Invasion and his romance with Wiccan is a must. What you suggest would not sit very well with either Young Avengers fans nor the LGBT community. Basically keeping him as a child would be just an excuse to not have his gay romance with Teddy. And it's not just those two, Speed have a relationship with Kate Bishop in the comics and if he remain a kid in the MCU that romance is gone. Keeping Wiccan and Speed would ruin the characters, their romances and their story-arcs in general, because in all their comic stories they are teenagers.
@darthlordrevan8307
@darthlordrevan8307 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping Wiccan and Speed kids and all other Young Avengers teenagers ? No thank you. It would destroy a lot of things about their characters (especially Billy).
@diaboliklife3623
@diaboliklife3623 2 жыл бұрын
What you are proposing.......let's just say I don't see Marvel fans taking it too well......not to mention the LGBT community. It's just not a good idea for a lot of reasons.
@Zeratul-li8um
@Zeratul-li8um 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping Wiccan and Speed as kids would be a very bad move for Marvel, especially Wiccan. There a a lot of fans both straight and gay that want to see him and Hulkling together in the MCU. If Marvel keep Billy as a kid there will be a riot, Marvel and Disney will be attack by everyone on the socials and I could see a lot of people deleting their Disney+ account. Basically, it will be a storm that Marvel and Disney definitely want to avoid.
@willpower6188
@willpower6188 2 жыл бұрын
I love to watch your videos..but please add more Doug in them. He is the coolest.
@marco617617
@marco617617 2 жыл бұрын
now we understand why Loki remained the last show on the schedule. Loki is a must-watch bc of what happens in his show. The heroes are likely going to try to restore a main timeline but this new timeline will likely have mutants and ff4 when they restore a main timeline.
@joshualerat8296
@joshualerat8296 2 жыл бұрын
Or because they like storyboarding a story so people can enjoy it if they havnt read the comics and can slowly transition into being a part of a multimedia multiverse where eventually everything is cannon and they can add more shows more heros or just eventually have someone just show up and not even explain anything just have them help leave and have people commenting on how _____ hero worked with or _____ Villain is now moving or working with known superbad.
@PhantomQueenOne
@PhantomQueenOne 2 жыл бұрын
If you go to Disney+ Marvel Studios Assembled, Tom Hiddleston TELLS YOU that 'He who remains' is another version of Kang.
@JovhonteFirstOfHisName
@JovhonteFirstOfHisName 2 жыл бұрын
Like Lokie's, Kangs can't trust themselves. He'd kill himself before he let himself win. If that made any sense🤔🤔😂😂😂
@Rascofresco11
@Rascofresco11 2 жыл бұрын
You missed how the reset charges look like a mini version of Alighoth
@DazRFBM
@DazRFBM 2 жыл бұрын
"Because thats where Chads come from" in this context is one of the best justifications of any argument in human history.
@eldo59
@eldo59 2 жыл бұрын
8:33 Barney LOL!!!
@milkiassamuel780
@milkiassamuel780 2 жыл бұрын
As soon as Endgame introduced time-travel, I immediately knew Kang was set to debut.
@FreshTea2411
@FreshTea2411 2 жыл бұрын
Its Alioth like Goliath. Come on guys its pronounced in the show like a dozen times.
@trevorlane
@trevorlane 2 жыл бұрын
Alioth, Cham, it's all the same
@FreshTea2411
@FreshTea2411 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorlane That's a very DC opinion.
@Kal824
@Kal824 2 жыл бұрын
I have an interesting theory about something Ravona said to Loki when he asked her how come the TVA hadn't captured the Avengers for Time Traveling, and she replied by saying that the Avengers Time Traveling was supposed to happen. I believe the reason for this is because in the timeline Thanos snaps is thee timeline where a direct descendant to this Kang lives. In the snap, this direct descendant is dusted away... However, with the Avengers going back in time, retrieving the stones, and snapping everyone back, this descendant returns, ensuring that Kang in this timeline is born in the future. Not only that, but, the Thanos of 2014, the one that followed the Avengers back, is also gone... Therefore THAT timeline's Thanos no longer exists, and cannot retrieve the Infinity Stones to snap away half of all life, including THAT timeline's descendant of Kang as well.
@rotten2209
@rotten2209 2 жыл бұрын
Everything went according to plan. She was not a variant she was stolen then allowed to plot her revenge just like a Loki would. Being so young, this bred her lack of trust and fueled her one desire. "Our" Loki has his magic skills, compassion, smarts and the craving to be loved which fuels his desire for power. After seeing all these individuals lives pan out over and over and being done with it(life), it was like piecing together a puzzle. Just some fun before his (Immortus) life was over. Why? Why not? He will inevitably "return" and take back over regardless of if he was killed or the Lokis "took over" for a bit. But again, his loki personality puzzle fixes that.
@Handsome_Black
@Handsome_Black 2 жыл бұрын
Why does he insist on mispronouncing Alioth when it's been pronounced correctly many times in the show
@nevbezaire
@nevbezaire 2 жыл бұрын
It's so simple: Goliath without the G
@dragosd9467
@dragosd9467 2 жыл бұрын
What version of Kang can be worse than He Who Remains that destroyed all other timelines during the war just to have peace in a single timeline where there is a lot of constant conflict anyway (thanos, wars etc)? That's like saying it would be a good idea to nuke all the countries but one during a world war just to have peace. "Pure of heart" my ass.
@thecrazylooser7
@thecrazylooser7 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same, I guess is similar of USA nuking Japan... it was for a greater good? Gosh he just killed trillions^trillions of lives.
@dragosd9467
@dragosd9467 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecrazylooser7 yeah. He basically achieved what all the other "evil" ones were aiming for. Except they wanted to rule over other timelines. Not destroy them. What He Who Remains did was way worse. The worst case scenario actually.
@kfiraltberger552
@kfiraltberger552 2 жыл бұрын
I think the "see you soon" line is just because she didnt believe him when he said other evil hims will come in his sted, and so he was saying "you chose this path, get ready to meeting (as agent smith said) me, me, me"
@erique1238
@erique1238 2 жыл бұрын
It wasnt until the word “Nexus Being” was written in the comic when I knew (from the captions) that you werent saying “nexus beans”
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