LOKI: Kang Master Plan Explained! What Was He Who Remains' Trick?
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He Who Remains is a variant of Kang the Conqueror, who has now overtaken the TVA in Loki Episode 6 and is positioned to be the new big bad of the Marvel Cinematic Universe behind titles like Spider-Man No Way Home, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, Ant-Man and the Wasp Quantumania, perhaps even the WandaVision post-credit scene. Erik Voss explains what Kang's ultimate plan is, and why he's most afraid of a Spiderverse crossover in No Way Home.
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@coolman7958 2 жыл бұрын
Epic
@injailoutsoon7289 2 жыл бұрын
Noice
@valr97 2 жыл бұрын
What’s up my nerd babys
@kg7518 2 жыл бұрын
Kewl
@TheBADCRIPER 2 жыл бұрын
kang gang!
@DIO-1166 2 жыл бұрын
Us: Get mobius a jet ski!!! He who remains: GROW UP!!!!!
@snigdha8404 2 жыл бұрын
Us again: Hopefully he will get it by season 2 and say WOW
@Douglas_Reuber 2 жыл бұрын
shoulda both killed kang and made sweet love
@bensenzo 2 жыл бұрын
@@Douglas_Reuber 😳😳
@moonknight5743 2 жыл бұрын
@@snigdha8404 Better Loki gives it to him as a gift then he says wow when he sees it
@biencj 2 жыл бұрын
After reading your comment: “Quick, someone grab me my bathing toaster”
@jordan_styla7655 2 жыл бұрын
Wednesday is in two days. And it feels weird not expecting a Loki episode.
@seanlintermoot 2 жыл бұрын
I know but we just have to wait a bit longer one the 11 what if starts
@omayrasdemesne 2 жыл бұрын
We get an Assembled episode of Loki I think
@TangoNevada 2 жыл бұрын
These shows should be at least 8-10 Episodes or 2:30:00 Movies. 6 Is just enough to get you really excited and then it ends. Boo!
@smashypeople 2 жыл бұрын
cry
@metallicnole4514 2 жыл бұрын
Marvel has really been keeping that week to week anticipation exciting in a way I haven't felt in a while
@cancerino666 2 жыл бұрын
One way or another, Loki always introduces us to the main MCU villain
@farhanwiriasubranta3437 2 жыл бұрын
Glorious purpose
@magnusgaming1099 2 жыл бұрын
@@farhanwiriasubranta3437 😂😂
@poppyflorist 2 жыл бұрын
Mischievous god
@robertcoggeshall3071 2 жыл бұрын
Right! Maybe he will see Galactus in his next season.
@sgmii3060 2 жыл бұрын
He is the catalyst of all change in Norse mythology
@npre1223 2 жыл бұрын
In Chess, a Gambit is essentially a sacrifice of a piece for compensation elsewhere…so sacrificing he who remains for long term benefit (for kangs) definitely makes sense
@smashypeople 2 жыл бұрын
we wuz kangs n shit
@defsouul3127 2 жыл бұрын
@Xeta why are you being racist
@defsouul3127 2 жыл бұрын
@@smashypeople why are you being racist
@smashypeople 2 жыл бұрын
@@defsouul3127 context brother, context.
@duo1666 2 жыл бұрын
Theres also gambits where you blunder your queen for.... you blunder your queen.
@morganbarnham5427 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think it comes down to what he says to Loki; "Interesting that your mind goes (to manipulation)". The greatest deceit he could pull would be to tell nothing but the truth. And I think that's what he did.
@andmicbro1 2 жыл бұрын
I think that was the biggest twist for me, you mean Miss Minutes little cartoon was the truth? I don't think any of us expected that be the case. We were all thinking it was a lie, there had to be something else going on. Nope, it was the truth.
@lottietalkie3142 2 жыл бұрын
@@andmicbro1 Totally! Which is also why I think they didn't need to spend SO much time on explaining the same thing again. Basically, he could have said: "well, apart from the Timekeepers thing, Miss Minutes was telling the truth! And also, I have super evil variants".
@Nabil5062 2 жыл бұрын
Kang is easily going to be the most interesting and well thought of character in mcu history. Going to be amazing for us fans to watch ! Love you Erik
@WonkelDee 2 жыл бұрын
I hope doctor doom is comparable though!
@bookeblade 2 жыл бұрын
All I hope, is that his character is well written.
@idk1402 2 жыл бұрын
@@bookeblade exactly, cuz he has soooo much potential, but he can also become shitty if they dont think everything thru
@chrisbranch662 2 жыл бұрын
@@WonkelDee I am hoping to for an interesting Doom but it will depend on the writing and the actor who brings the character to life.
@noorbashit7495 2 жыл бұрын
Agree thanos is not even close to kang’s planning and power
@orowaafrika 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos: I'm inevitable. Kang: hold my apple.
@misterFunktastical 2 жыл бұрын
Kang - zips back in time and drowns him in his childhood bathwater
@suchethbhargav0986 2 жыл бұрын
@@misterFunktastical lol that would create another branch though
@rondiggity1677 2 жыл бұрын
@@suchethbhargav0986 there was a great explanation on why you can't do that having to do with Adam Warlock
@misterFunktastical 2 жыл бұрын
@@suchethbhargav0986 But it would be a damn good one!
@suchethbhargav0986 2 жыл бұрын
@@rondiggity1677 who is Adam warlock?
@RodTV 2 жыл бұрын
so Loki should be good on explaining everything he knows to Dr. Strange 😂
@flying_nimbus7852 2 жыл бұрын
Loki should ask Luis to help him explain
@_Tree 2 жыл бұрын
After falling for another 30 minutes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@irvinekay 2 жыл бұрын
Recreation of that Banner scene reporting to Dr Strange about Thanos, freaked out
@traintrain83 2 жыл бұрын
Except this Loki doesn’t know dr strange he meets him in infinite war
@colbysteffens2976 2 жыл бұрын
@Benjamin Cohen yes the writer who wrote Loki is also helping out woth writing Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Maddness
@Citizen88020120820 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos was about overpowering ppl. Kang is going to be about out-thinking ppl.
@21redsox21 2 жыл бұрын
That’s why I think phase 4 will be so good. A lot more to the story than brute force
@matador7457 2 жыл бұрын
Thanos also outsmarted people. He's considered to be extremely intelligent in the comics, and still to a high degree in the MCU. His entire plan was predicated on his ability to think years ahead and foresee obstacles. The Avengers literally had to time travel just to stop him. Thanos just also happens to be incredibly strong, so I can see how people would overlook his intelligence.
@Citizen88020120820 2 жыл бұрын
@@matador7457 Of course Thanos is smart, he just also had a huge army. Kang is dangerous in a different way is all.
@21redsox21 2 жыл бұрын
@@matador7457 oh I’m not overlooking his intelligence. Just from the movie standpoint, they made Thanos more of a brute than anything. I think they were priming us for more of an intellectual battle from phase 3 to 4. Loki and Wanda vision gave us a good amount of “weird science?” to get us ready for more of that style of movies if that makes sense.
@sithsaiyan4529 2 жыл бұрын
And I can’t wait.
@moldyzucchinis3251 2 жыл бұрын
marvel just set up a supervillain that they can build on in infinite ways simultaneously
@RFDN0 2 жыл бұрын
The one movie and done villian issue is basically not possible here.
@kinglopez9991 2 жыл бұрын
"Kang's Gambit" has a nice ring to it
@shancooley1619 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder when Gambit was inserted into the script. Cross-pollination.
@tervikairspace6673 2 жыл бұрын
Kang clan
@brownie3454 2 жыл бұрын
thatll be the name of this saga’s closing avengers movie
@kazvanrooij 2 жыл бұрын
@@brownie3454 haha wow thats totally possible
@jaynishdesai1839 2 жыл бұрын
Like literally
@elmird3034 2 жыл бұрын
It's easy, Marvel is going to bring Loki back into the cinematic universe after season 2 of Loki to help the Avengers face Kang.
@jaredsilvers2782 2 жыл бұрын
100% I really think they'll actually push and get Loki season 2 out before Multiverse of Madness and season 2 will end with Loki jumping into that universe.
@adhdfinance2653 2 жыл бұрын
Go Cubs
@Meechjr19 2 жыл бұрын
I agree but I was very happy Thanos got him outta there
@Merzhs 2 жыл бұрын
what Avengers? 😛
@user-kn6dq8uw2p 2 жыл бұрын
Johnathan Majors is gonna kill this role and ascend to stardom like most Marvel actors and actresses.
@colbysteffens2976 2 жыл бұрын
Yes he will
@snigdha8404 2 жыл бұрын
That is absolutely happening!
@misterFunktastical 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't just nail it, he re-created it and gave the role life, ingeniously.
@kohdeen4463 2 жыл бұрын
Yup it's right there in his last name.
@deannahenry8925 2 жыл бұрын
Yea
@nayR5 2 жыл бұрын
Option A: kill Kang, setting the stage for another Kang to take his place Option B: overthrow Kang, allowing the TVA to continue operating under someone else’s leadership Option C: do nothing, keep Kang in power It’s a lose-lose-lose
@jaynishdesai1839 2 жыл бұрын
Option C would make most sense because multiverse started branching out before Sylvie kills Kang which means it was going to be “Free will” if they hadn’t kill Kang and Kang’s plan to get killed and let other younger Kang take over would not work out
@RogueBoyScout 2 жыл бұрын
A good lesson for people to learn. Or as Star Trek called it, "The Kobayashi Maru Scenario". I would love to have seen Federation Loki's solution to it.
@tablamasters6262 2 жыл бұрын
His plan was that both Loki and Sylvia control his throne and he would die in piece instead they messed up
@ty814 2 жыл бұрын
@@jaynishdesai1839 Kang can control it.
@teamrocket3154 Жыл бұрын
@@tablamasters6262 even if lokis took the throne nothing would change... lokis can either shackle free will like he who remain did or unleash the multiverse and starting another multiversal war...there is no win
@Katie-ly2mu 2 жыл бұрын
I can't get over how this Kang's backstory(specifically the one explained in ep. 6) is just like Rick Sanchez, who has a council and backstory inspired by Kang, and they now share writers.
@Caskiz 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe the evilest Kang has a citadel with many Alioths around it getting tortured.
@Katie-ly2mu 2 жыл бұрын
@@Caskiz yeessss lololol
@kintsugikame 2 жыл бұрын
@@Katie-ly2mu i’m glad i’m not the only one who noticed the similarities lol
@Davis-H 2 жыл бұрын
And The council of ricks was inspired by the council of Reeds from the Fantastic Four.
@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 2 жыл бұрын
@@Davis-H fr? Source?
@Murcielago_919 2 жыл бұрын
Now that theres a multiverse, the fast and furious franchise can crossover and defeat kang with the ultimate weapon! Family!
@kal-el1639 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@RogueBoyScout 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just terrified at the thought of 2 or more Vin Diesels meeting up. I think that would be the equivalent of splitting a photon particle. That is to say, I got no idea, but know enough to understand it's probably not good for me.
@cellP8 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@lorenzodawkins7500 2 жыл бұрын
💀
@madhurshinde4988 Жыл бұрын
there is a kang variant who just got killed by the family word
@OPAUDIOENGINEER 2 жыл бұрын
What if the Nexus event when Loki and Sylvie held hands was because they were growing a bond and may not betray each other when Kang needs them to in the end
@markchristianfernandez483 2 жыл бұрын
Correct
@markchristianfernandez483 2 жыл бұрын
Its Kang's plan all along
@RELAXcowboy 2 жыл бұрын
I like this idea. It makes sense. My only question is, wouldn’t the apocalypse nexus event mean they would have survived the destruction? I mean thats the reason why they go to the apocalypse events. It all gets destroyed so changing it means nothing because it will be gone soon. Why did they cause one if they were just about to die?
@datruthhurtz2306 2 жыл бұрын
@@markchristianfernandez483 nope...needed them to reach the end...that's it...lol
@magnusgaming1099 2 жыл бұрын
@@markchristianfernandez483 🎵🎶It was Kang all along 🎵🎶
@Alexza1980 2 жыл бұрын
I think I believe him too!! He is tired of the monotony same outcome every time BUT if he brings his other variants then he knows things will "spice up"...
@rotten2209 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure you understand what's going on at all.
@ciupenhauer 2 жыл бұрын
His own variants that he worked so hard to contain?
@mannylopez2949 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so freakin pumped for where Marvel is taking this phase. It’s going to be multiverse breaking haha.
@sl9wdive 2 жыл бұрын
Ngl i thought mcu will die out after avengers endgame cause the hype was so big, but now im even more excited than when i was waiting for endgame
@tanchienhao 2 жыл бұрын
@@sl9wdive same lol, never expected the crossovers to continue post endgame
@caladchold 2 жыл бұрын
So I have a thought: what if the nexus event on lamentis wasn't about the two Loki's look and feelings towards each other, and that fact that they were about to die was the cause? He who remains did say he planned and paved it all right? So them dying would create a nexus event.
@rotten2209 2 жыл бұрын
That's the most sensical hypothesis.
@ounaogot 2 жыл бұрын
Someone who thinks
@thaliafelice7679 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Whose to say that being a part of a nexus event doesn’t prevent the creation of a nexus event. The multiverse hurts my brain.
@magnusgaming1099 2 жыл бұрын
That's why marvel is releasing what if
@lkangaroo 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t explain why the branch didn’t appear until they held hands though
@saifabidalbloushi 2 жыл бұрын
Ik im suppose to 'not like' kang for everything hes done but god dammit that guy's charming😂😂
@rick6083 2 жыл бұрын
Oh he's gonna be my favorite now 🤣
@sithsaiyan4529 2 жыл бұрын
The actor murdered his scenes. Great build up, barely any action but his warnings are terrifying and mysterious, making us want more but also leaving us mostly satisfied with the twist.
@saifabidalbloushi 2 жыл бұрын
@@rick6083 definitely😂😂
@saifabidalbloushi 2 жыл бұрын
@@sithsaiyan4529 oh jonathan killed it!! I hope we'll be able to see him again soon.
@marqj301 2 жыл бұрын
You may not find his other variants so charming…they more than likely won’t share the same carefree personality. We thought Thanos was ruthless…just wait until we see the numerous Kangs in action 😬😬😬
@LampDoesVideogame 2 жыл бұрын
The timeline started branching because the agents of the TVA were starting to question what they were doing. They stop pruning branches, branches... branch! That's why the timeline branched BEFORE Kang was killed.
@datruthhurtz2306 2 жыл бұрын
yes
@langletprolet8378 2 жыл бұрын
It started branching after Kang and the Lokis crossed the treshold.
@bordan1311 2 жыл бұрын
@@langletprolet8378 And what exactly is the threshold?
@Prockski 2 жыл бұрын
@@bordan1311 Crossing a threshold as a literary term just means cross from one space to another (often a door). In this case they crossed from a predetermined and scripted set of events to infinite possibility.
@Sabaelos 2 жыл бұрын
My question is, how did our loki ended up in another tva timeline. I mean, what happened to immortus' tva, did they disappear or what.
@Natta44 2 жыл бұрын
The scene where Kang and the lokis have the conversation about the timeline is by FAR my fave scene of the whole Loki series. Jonathan does an amazing job, the balance of evil, lunacy, wit, outsmarting is fantastic. It really makes the two lokis so powerless and question everything they've been through. Although our Loki seems more developed than Sylvie, as I think lokis past experiences, relationship with Mobius and seeing his future humbled him. Whereas Sylvie was hellbent on revenge so was more rash and evident of a past Loki! Fab stuff, I'm glad Marvel are really starting to develop characters more. It's made me become a big fan of marvel when I used to think it was just crashing and bashing movies 😂
@ImThePerson0 2 жыл бұрын
I think, to explain his delight after the threshold was crossed, he was just very excited and happy about getting to experience the unknown again. Or, at least it’s part of it. You can tell that afterward, as well, when he stopped being the “know it all” of the room, his speech became more stuttered and unsure, yet he was giddy.
@aquaticlife9251 2 жыл бұрын
I get what NR is saying- he's playing both of them. But I do think so. He's just stating the facts. He doesn't have to tell them any of that. He could have call Revvonna up to the big leagues. Unless he wanted to die and it looked like he didn't mind that at all. As long as he lived juggling the multiverse, he looked like he was done with it all anyway. But giving Revvonna that assignment seems to be a back up plan just in case they didn't take the job. A contingency plan. He is a genius, you know?
@trevorphilips9399 2 жыл бұрын
Dawg are we watching the same video? 💀
@woodworkingandepoxy643 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorphilips9399 yes but delusional people read into things that was never even mentioned
@MatureManure 2 жыл бұрын
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 what are talking about. His comment makes perfect sense. Kinda rude to call him delusional only because he has another opinion
@woodworkingandepoxy643 2 жыл бұрын
@@MatureManure mmm no. A lot of what he's talking about wasn't mentioned. That's why this other person I replied to said "are we watching the same video" because that wasnt said and theyre like I agree that this blah blah blah when that wasnt brought up to agree to
@trevorphilips9399 2 жыл бұрын
@@woodworkingandepoxy643 it just seems so convoluted and overexplained, I can’t understand a single thing the sentence structure is appalling lmao
@lookintok 2 жыл бұрын
All I can say is he made his performance was scary and brilliant
@RepublicConstitution 2 жыл бұрын
I never felt any fear. Maybe a sort of resigned hopelessness, but not fear. Brilliant acting though, no doubt.
@youngsumma 2 жыл бұрын
I think Kang’s plan was to never give up control, he just wants/needs certain events to occur so that he can refresh himself to rule longer. I think he needed two of the most untrustworthy, selfish persons to appear before him to guarantee his plan succeeds.
@scottkidder9046 2 жыл бұрын
I always figured the timeline started branching because he who remains had only written time up until that point. After they cross the threshold, it’s chaos and the timeline naturally starts branching
@wangstanation6400 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to see Sylvie and Lokie acting all lovey dovey to weird Thor out
@toonasag 2 жыл бұрын
That would be fun to see!😂
@nasis18 2 жыл бұрын
@m_train1 why not both?
@Kazasia-_- 2 жыл бұрын
@@nasis18 Now that’s amazing
@markevans7937 2 жыл бұрын
@@nasis18 that's good shit, pal!
@TheCHILDRENofTV 2 жыл бұрын
Hot 🥵
@Vegasmann 2 жыл бұрын
I think when He Who Remains took his temp pad off his hand and pushed it to the edge of his desk he knew Sylvie would grab it. He knew the precise spot where to place it as he knew exactly how their fight was going to go. Everything was all according to Kang...
@TlairAddicted 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they aren't gonna leave young Loki in void alone. Boastful Loki sold him out.. Classic Loki isn't around. Just saying .. We need some young avengers!! Just a boy and his alligator...
@platoniczombie 2 жыл бұрын
You mean just an alligator and his boy...
@BeanstaIkk 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think young avengers would happen. Does anyone want a movie based around a bunch of kids?
@TlairAddicted 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeanstaIkk age them up a little .. I would
@BeanstaIkk 2 жыл бұрын
@@TlairAddicted how old though? I think teen years would be a mistake, but ages 19-23 would probably be cool.
@Jaysuave365 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeanstaIkk I agree 100% unless the casting for each character is as good as IT and there’s a great script for them it’d more than likely be mid.
@gp873 2 жыл бұрын
Loki officially a city boy after Sylvie doing him like that. It always takes ONE to create a dog 😂
@ChrisDodges123 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@shiestysean 2 жыл бұрын
Always
@kg7518 2 жыл бұрын
The best part of the episode is he who remains calling Sylvie a Hypocrite
@coolman7958 2 жыл бұрын
Lol yea
@kornflak4s 2 жыл бұрын
Grow up
@ThatOneGuyFIFA 2 жыл бұрын
@@kornflak4s ?
@Augustin54 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThatOneGuyFIFA GROW UP THATONEGUYFIFA
@ThatOneGuyFIFA 2 жыл бұрын
@@Augustin54 lol
@NebulousOD69 2 жыл бұрын
Since my first viewing, I cannot see that moment 'He Who Remains' points at Loki saying "we've all done terrible.." without seeing Heath Ledger, as the Joker, in the scene from 'Dark Knight' where he performs a magic trick involving a pencil. Majors' entire performance is fantastic! Can't wait to see what he does with this role.
@rayzoarage 2 жыл бұрын
This phase 4 and it's future events are gonna be lit! What a time to be alive and be part of this awesome cinematic journey. I wished my dad was still alive to experience this..he loved growing up as a kid with some of his beloved marvel characters. Sadly he only managed to see through Phase 1 only..but i loved seeing the kid side surfaced when he was watching it...
@robertcoggeshall3071 2 жыл бұрын
Feel that too. My brother only lived to see Spiderman. He would have loved seeing Marvel really cut loose.
@BrockSamsonite 2 жыл бұрын
Immortus tells them "this is wild" when he sees them together because this is the first time he's seen two versions of a character other than himself make it that far to the citadel at the end of time.
@RepublicConstitution 2 жыл бұрын
Very much like Neo meeting the Architect.
@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460 2 жыл бұрын
When Kang says, *"I'm older. Older than I look."* I fell in love! Jonathan Majors is brilliant, a master at his craft and with that line, and the way he looked when he said it, *I FELT every one of the million years he's lived.* Just...Wow!
@giantnamekiandende8988 2 жыл бұрын
They must all fear Lokigator for Lokigator has existed since the very beginning of time, and he shall be there at the very end of days.
@Will-ob8xp 2 жыл бұрын
Lokigator is pulling all the strings in the MCU
@giantnamekiandende8988 2 жыл бұрын
His Telepathy has evolved past our comprehension
@giantnamekiandende8988 2 жыл бұрын
HAAAA I see you
@simmsquee 2 жыл бұрын
So Loki, in becoming a better, more honest and heroic person, got outplayed by the Kang Gang. This is why he needs to appreciate and hold onto ALL his strengths, including his manipulative, scheming mind.
@Deltaaaaaaaaa 2 жыл бұрын
I just love how the house at the end of time is a Sanctum Sanctorum, and no one is talking about it.
@cwise9052 2 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to see the Kang Gang and the Lang Gang in Antman
@jeffholiman5458 2 жыл бұрын
The Wu-Kang Clan?
@in45do34 2 жыл бұрын
MCU characters are chess pieces to Kang. Whatever the Avengers will do to stop him, Kang will always wins. Sylvie triggered the multiverse > Kang started multiversal war > One of Kang's variant win the war and isolated the timeline > Sylvie started the multiverse again > Repeat. It's a closed loop.
@keithunderwood8803 2 жыл бұрын
Loki got it too but it didn't matter
@datruthhurtz2306 2 жыл бұрын
nope...there was always a multiverse.
@MrAlmondlondon 2 жыл бұрын
Its like itachi's izanami
@vincentjudeorit9745 2 жыл бұрын
Its a fixed loop
@aseem2985 2 жыл бұрын
ENTER DR. STRANGE.
@Tridural 2 жыл бұрын
I think "he who remains" Kang wanting to assist a "younger, hungrier" Kang doesn't really make. Why would he go through the trouble of attempting to have Loki and Silvi take control instead. Is it suppose to be like 5 dimensional chess, just has to many contradictions
@jessereichbach588 2 жыл бұрын
Yea. The reason he was HAPPY at the end is because, for the first time in a long time, he truly did not know how things would play out, what would happen. On top of that, he could relax for the first time in who knows how long, which was probably a fairly stressful lifestyle previously.
@lightspark7820 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessereichbach588 I honestly think he did that on purpose. He was able to manipulate everything up to the threshold, including their conversation. So he set up a string of dialogue that would lead to two outcomes he could be satisfied with. Although it is possible that he was just toying with them and would have killed himself anyways
@Velociraptour 2 жыл бұрын
There has got to be a bigger threat to his rule that he's willing to restructure like that. He was playing them both but he also seemed like he was pushed into a corner. Why else would his offer be so different from the one Miss Minutes gave them.
@artist0154 2 жыл бұрын
@@lightspark7820 you're reading too much, he was just tired, reaaaaaally tired about everything
@jessereichbach588 2 жыл бұрын
@@Velociraptour The Miss Minutes offer could have been a test of "worthiness". To confirm their motivations and possibly, to push them to self realization of their motivations and perhaps to question their own future.
@RogueWolfArtist 2 жыл бұрын
He wants to be a gardener and grow some branches.
@sithsaiyan4529 2 жыл бұрын
Ba-dun-tss.
@Gabriel-zy7ee 2 жыл бұрын
We should make a petition to see Kang and Thanos working on a farm.
@LTDBasti 2 жыл бұрын
But what if the anomaly on Lamentis was so critical because they weren‘t supposed to die in this apocalypse. I mean he who remains explained to them that they were destined to reach his castle. shortly before loki and sylvie dying the spike goes wild because its against the sacret timeline am i right?
@Caskiz 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what i thought, too. He who remains carved the path. So he could‘ve just created a Nexus event to save them and make sure they actually reach his citadel.
@jaredsilvers2782 2 жыл бұрын
agree
@seannorton69 2 жыл бұрын
That's why "He who Remains' choose these Lokis , they could help him, he weeded them out and it was Sylvie and Loki, different and the same, but when they held hands it changed the plan, he doesn't know exactly what will happen.
@jessereichbach588 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. THAT is the reason he was happy. Because for the first time in a long time he didn't know what was going to happen and he could just relax and let things play out without his meddling. I don't think there was actually any deeper, more nefarious meaning behind his acting pleased.
@lightspark7820 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessereichbach588 I think that the reason he was okay with the whole thing is because he wins either way. He set it up so that he lands on top no matter whar
@microfish4 2 жыл бұрын
He who remains be like: "An apple a day keeps doctor strange away"
@joshuathompson8667 2 жыл бұрын
I think the nexus event was that the Loki’s where about to die. It said what makes a loki a loki is not dying, but surviving. The loki’s where actually going to die though, and then the timeline wouldn’t have broken up and created a multiverse, meaning nobody would replace kang
@kunk8789 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvie: *kills He-Who-Remains Kang* Dr. Strange: *inhales cigarette profusely*
@akimmel6941 2 жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@stillanicon8679 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@michaeljaca7831 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone notice that he who remains was eating an apple. Similar in ways to the apple in Doctor Strange when he was playing with it with the time stone also. Strangely in connection to an apple he gives loki and sylvi 2 choices similar in the bible of "free will" where in connection loki and sylvi is like Adam and eve and Jonathan is like the serpant. Strange or coincidence??
@annedrieck7316 2 жыл бұрын
Big mama also hold an apple in mgs4
@maciekgutkowski8075 2 жыл бұрын
It's too obvious to be a coincidence.
@alshahriar6230 2 жыл бұрын
it`s doctor.... strange
@ty814 2 жыл бұрын
Most deadliest "See You Soon" delivery I have seen, when clearly it was delivered with a smile 😍
@IronicSonic83 2 жыл бұрын
Loki second season: Loki's Kang Quest
@robertcoggeshall3071 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think that is the plan. Unlikeliest hero against Kang.
@SlackerHead83 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's pretty much cut and dry my friend. Kang was protecting the multiverse or at least he thought he was. He was tired and ready to move on, and was fascinated that it was because of two Loki variants he was going to be set free from his task. He also knows that his good self will eventually return even if it's another 1000 years from now.
@chaitanya4613 2 жыл бұрын
I have thought. It might be crazy. Here it goes: Kang "He who remains in Loki" says he is old despite his looks. It seems he does want to be killed by Sylvie. So the sacred timeline breaks. And mutliverse war breaks out. And eventually an younger Kang variant (like young loki in the series) comes back and sits in the void creating TVA again and again and it goes. It happens again and again like a cycle.
@ryclooney8683 2 жыл бұрын
They mentioned out of everyone pruned or coming thru the TBA, that Loki was the most seen/person to come thru there. Well, according to Owens character. So Loki was needed and or would be or possibly be one important enough to stop him.
@WilkenWilkins 2 жыл бұрын
the No Way Home prediction in this is absolutely insane
@4tchilling956 Жыл бұрын
??
@brucelau2023 2 жыл бұрын
Literally cannot wait to see Jonathan Majors again as KTC ( Kang The Conqueror) in Antman and the wasp Quantummania, we are in for a insane and cosmic ride with the Quantum Realm
@RIO-wz8gq 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining what KTC meant 🤣
@bensenzo 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you abbreviate Kang the conqueror then write it in full?😂😂😂
@INCNetski 2 жыл бұрын
I feel Loki is gonna be the central figure in the future of the MCU, like Tony was.
@flaagan 2 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering how exactly the MCU plans to bring down Kang, what would be the Endgame against him, and I think you just hit upon it. The idea that multiple variants working together, instead of just for themselves, fighting against a Kang or multiple Kangs. I could see an end-battle with Kang being like the reverse of AntMan's fight with Ghost, with the variants collaborating to force the multiple Kangs into one reality / timeline where he loses.
@robm7199 2 жыл бұрын
Saw a page where he played Wanda vs Agatha and it matched up perfect with when Kang knew they crossed the threshold. Pretty sick if its tied together
@robertcoggeshall3071 2 жыл бұрын
Loki took place BEFORE Wandavision, so it very well might.
@john-doe842 Жыл бұрын
i like this
@Christian_Luczejko 2 жыл бұрын
I like this explanation the most cause it makes the finale episode make the most sense. I couldn't wrap my head around why that thunder clapped and the timeline started to break apart before Sylvie killed him. Or as to why his script with their dialog on only went to certain point and he could not longer see further.
@cremline7484 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh i thought it was bcause he will die
@nathanherren6708 2 жыл бұрын
I clearly sensed the sarcasm in the option “orrrr YOU just run the thing!” Like anyone would be delusionally narcissistic enough to think they could successfully command the ultimate power over every second of time that ever was or will be. Oh wait, it’s Loki
@steelsheen 2 жыл бұрын
genius video Erik! 👏👏👏 didn't see that angle. thank you for enlightening us on this, it makes a lot of sense.
@ukietheoverlord3159 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is just kicking this horse till no theories remain.
@travelledbones 2 жыл бұрын
Johnathan Majors stellar performance in the episode is something we’re going to look back on in 2-3 years and wonder how different and diverse he was able to act. Unbelievable
@Vondruke 2 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the season finales of WandaVision and Loki sync up at around 27 minutes in.. He Who Remains reacts to Scarlett Witch powering up and again when he drops the ball or whatever.
@thurmanschannel8190 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel. Unlike some of the other KZfaq offering out there, You present a better take on these Disney + programs. Keep doing what ya do. You make people think!!!!
@Chrisy7 2 жыл бұрын
such a great video!!! you’re right, Kang could not stay as ruler as soon as Loki and Sylvie had their connection. the finale may have been mostly talking, but it’s all well crafted and very intentional
@Caskiz 2 жыл бұрын
I got a few more questions. 1. if the TVA was created by he who remains, how did he managed to disable any kind of magic and powers? Like the Infinity Stones as paperweights. 2. what was the point that they we‘re trespassing leading to the branching timeline? Was it a point in time? Wich wouldn’t make sense since he who remains was surprised but should have known about this if he had the script of everything happening. So it must‘ve been a point of action. Something that happened and destroyed the sacred timeline. Like a Nexus Event passing the red line. But what was that Nexus event? Maybe Wanda stretching reality to hard? 3. in the final fight right before Loki disarms himself did he just teleport? Is that a power Lokis have? Oooooor was it a projection and Loki was actually elsewhere?
@shiestysean 2 жыл бұрын
Old Loki did create a portal. It’s not something out of Loki’s abilities. The TVA could simply have future tech that negates magic abilities and items.
@folkloreuh 2 жыл бұрын
Loki turning down Miss Minutes offer to be king kinda proved he was trustworthy so idk why it was put in there
@Mammothtruk 2 жыл бұрын
yes, this. this is how I see it. well done crafting it into a narrative that is easy to understand.
@karabomoumakwe2387 2 жыл бұрын
1:51 Great video. I thought his apparent delight was more an expression of relief to be honest.
@intothefrayyo 2 жыл бұрын
Um his delight was clearly off the fact that he was old and over it .. he took delight in what would happen because that's never happened, really not that hard to grasp .. at least that's what I thought about that scene
@12jswilson 2 жыл бұрын
The last time he probably didn't know what would happen was millions of years ago. Like watching Friends reruns for forever, you like it but it can get old.
@SoupedUpCustoms 2 жыл бұрын
it is. It's liken to somebody who after a long decades of hardwork. His day of retirement has come. Imagine consolidating and guarding the sacred timelines for years even eons. HWR pretty much happy and content and he's obviously aware that his variants would likely be encountering Sylvie and Loki at some point. So in a sense he still lives on.
@Denimsmith2023 2 жыл бұрын
He Who Remains didn’t say what he would do if Loki & Sylvia took over the TVA.... retirement home?? I think it was all a lie.
@serenity4eva89 2 жыл бұрын
I wondered about that too It seems odd that he would just walk away from his entire villain-y masterplan of ruling over time... to what? Go relax elsewhere? Not likely! Death was the only option in his mind from the very beginning, I think 🤔
@nolanleahy4260 2 жыл бұрын
@@serenity4eva89 Your exactly right, there was only ever one option and that was the multiverse opening up to pave the way for the next Kang
@phoenix-ug2ix 2 жыл бұрын
@@serenity4eva89 then why didn't he committed suicide?
@Nexxarian 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he'd jump into the timeline on a remote planet and run a farm just like Thanos did.
@JumpPanda 2 жыл бұрын
I think he’s definitely up to something because why contact Renslayer if you’re gonna give it up
@sosacritical8986 2 жыл бұрын
Kang being happy about chaos ensuing makes sense, in the 2021 Kang the conquerer comic he says that Kang thrives off of chaos. He even criticizes heros for always having plans
@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 2 жыл бұрын
@Sosa Critical was that Kang the conqueror comic good and worth reading?!???
@sosacritical8986 2 жыл бұрын
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 only was able to read the first 2 issues cause of marvel unlimited not having the rest yet but its good so far
@pauloboyle477 2 жыл бұрын
At 3:50 ha I’ve never seen a happier person. Thought u were bout to break into dance haha just livin the dream aren’t ya haha
@jordan_styla7655 2 жыл бұрын
No stopping the Boss Voss. He gonna collect those eggs like its a Holiday
@sumedhsasane6403 2 жыл бұрын
Actually when hewhoremains says "we just crossed the threshold" on that exact time wanda became scarlet witch, a nexus being that's why he wasn't able to know what gonna happen. Everything always made a video about that
@Sabaelos 2 жыл бұрын
What's a nexus being?
@sonofthesea6226 2 жыл бұрын
GAAAAAH THAT LAST PART THO WITH THE ROLLCALL OF THE NEXUS VARIANTS HNGGGG GIVES ME SHIVERS
@catch_me_ifucan 2 жыл бұрын
4:53 It's connected to wandavision last episode Wanda becomes nexus being at that moment That's the moment multiverse started Thats why before Kang was killed Sylvie pushed loki into another multiversal TVA My perspective
@CBreezie 2 жыл бұрын
I love how much of a stark contrast Kang will be to Thanos. Thanos was behind the scenes most of the time, until he emerged like a storm. It was triumphant when they defeated him. Kang is different. Hes being shown and displayed early on. While we know "Kang the Conqueror" is showing up in Antman. The fact that his casting for Loki was kept hidden makes me think we may see him in even more films. And it doesn't have to be just Kang, there are an infinite amount of variants of him to worry about. The idea of a "constant and visible threat" in more than one film, for the next decade, excites me in a different way. Who knows what the climax will be (other than, you know, xmen and fantastic four being involved inevitably).
@veggiet2009 2 жыл бұрын
I think this Kang's plan and motives are quite simple. I think he wants Chaos, after essentially "Bore-ifying" the universe into one tedium of beurocracy. His two options both lead to Chaos, on the one hand you have him dead and the universes branching, on the other hand you have two beings that both thrive on mischief and causing chaos for the sake of chaos in charge of his "order" both options are chaotic and honestly both would lead to his variants eventually being allowed to proliferate... but in any case the real "gambit" was the message or file that he sent via Miss Minutes back to the TVA, whatever happened with the Lokis in the Citidel, whether she'd kill him, or they'd take over, or their combined presence would cause a branch spontaneously, whatever those 3 outcomes, it would be chaos.
@AureliusRuiz 2 жыл бұрын
I think that the VTA mind wiping of their agents is an evolution of the red room mind control program. Is funny that Drakov office have a similar aesthetic with the TVA.
@paulbridge695 2 жыл бұрын
Our very strength invites challenge. Challenge incites conflict. And conflict... breeds catastrophe.
@Amy-mg5pl 2 жыл бұрын
Vision always the wisest of em all
@skyeplus 2 жыл бұрын
After giving the first bogus offer, Kang said he knows that's going to happen, but he still needs to mentally prepare them. Then he gives a second offer and explicitly plans the seed of mistrust in Sylvie: "Do you think you could trust him?". The second offer, for the Lokis to overseer the TVA together is likely also bogus, as Sylvie in all likelihood won't accept it. Whatever was the plan one thing is certain to me: Kang has baited Sylvie.
@KodyK82 2 жыл бұрын
Loki, Mobius, Hunter B-15 assumed that the “never before seen” timeline branch was because of the connection between Loki and Sylvie. I wonder if the severity of the branch was because SyLki were about to die on Lamentis, and if they died this would alter the plans of He-Mortis Who Remains.
@RaviKumar-me7ph 2 жыл бұрын
This video is the exact reason why i love this channel 👍
@jaredbennett7677 2 жыл бұрын
ooh, this makes a ton of sense! I think you are absolutely right!
@beatriceprior8508 2 жыл бұрын
I was so set on thanos til we got he who remains and I am SO interested to see how evil his variants and the mess that’s about to happen 😫🥰❤️🔥 I love it
@Fpbulldogs215 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like these events from Kang will set up a secret wars event in which different heroes from the past or present or different realities will come together to fight
@crazyworld54321 2 жыл бұрын
Thor corp....assemble!
@DNRDROID 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm not sure if they're going to make the secret wars into a move or if it's going to be season 2 of Loki pulling versions of allies to fight against Kang.
@Kazasia-_- 2 жыл бұрын
@@DNRDROIDsecrets wars been confirmed
@freedomajp 2 жыл бұрын
This is so interesting. Great deductions Sir!
@fakelindy948 2 жыл бұрын
one thing i noticed was that even before sylvie killed he who remains, the timeline branched so he who remain’s offer where the loki’s take his place couldn’t even happen
@zareenansari790 2 жыл бұрын
I clicked faster than the marvel intro can start
@goofygoober6569 2 жыл бұрын
kang's personality is so humourous LOL i hope we see him a lot in s2
@user-xe3us2cj9m 2 жыл бұрын
I love this … I love this… love love love… You did it again Erik!!!
@AmaWinter 2 жыл бұрын
The gold lining in the citadel reminds me soo much of the gold lining featured throughout The Eternals trailer
@enderprodigy3167 2 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that the reason the timeline splits again is while both lokis exist with he who remains at the end is because each Loki represents a probable path to move the timeline forward whereas before kang was always determining the flow of time without any consequence. since Loki represents chaos one Loki represents a positive outcome while the other takes the negative. But much like beliefs in polytheism and Buddhism existance is cyclical so while the negative outcome spawns chaos it also directly leads to kangs reincarnation as an inevitable force. But we also have to consider that the timeline splits at the end meaning that there's a universe in which kang did not die and still remains potentially in a uni ers where loki and Sylvie are side by side. Like in the original comics. We also know that each time the timeline cycles through that. variables change meaning kang might be expanding the timeline to procure more resources and eventualities that lead to one timeline continuing. It's almost as if this version of kang is tapped out of creative content and needed the lokis to present some duality in order for time to move further or reincarnate.
@pavement_sabbatical 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if I agree with the idea that He Who Remains is trying to have a younger Kang Replace him. This character from this episode is also based on Immortus, whom became mostly a pacifist after a lifetime of war, and isn’t necessarily a fan of Kang (his younger self). In the comics, the Council of Kangs exist to preserve what they believe to be the optimal timeline (Kang Prime becomes Immortus and thus keeps the timeline on the correct path). Here I think Immortus/He Who Remains does what he does to preserve the timeline in which he won the Multiversal War, and thus he can trust himself to avoid the most destruction (“This is the only way”). But because there are so many Kang variants, that victory is entirely up to chance (or at least it was before he started manipulating it), and thus with his death, we get a slightly different timeline, maybe one in which he is Kang for longer (It’s unclear whether the version of Immortus we saw in this episode actually spent time as Kang, but maybe he will end up right back in the same place as Immortus).
@armandholloway4742 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad they cast Kang so well. I'm excited for more MCU now
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