Loki the Norse God of Tricksters and Outcast

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Jacob Toddson

Jacob Toddson

3 жыл бұрын

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@silentriot4327
@silentriot4327 3 жыл бұрын
So I’ve often considered Loki to be a helpful and even kind trickster who just sometimes doesn’t know when he’s going too far. Eventually when he is punished with the binding and the venom I think this kind of hardens his heart making him live only for revenge and thus bringing about ragnarok.
@kullos4
@kullos4 3 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I, myself considered one of the reasons why Loki turned on the gods was because of the poor treatment of his children; Fenrir, Sleipnir, Jörmengandr, and Hel. I don't think we're ever told what kind of relationship he had with them or his more 'human' kids but one would think he at least felt something for them and perhaps he may sought revenge not only for himself but for them as well.
@silentriot4327
@silentriot4327 3 жыл бұрын
@@kullos4 I do think that was also a big part of it
@kullos4
@kullos4 3 жыл бұрын
@@silentriot4327 Odin attempts to drown Jörmengandr as a baby and takes Sleipnir as his mount. From Fenrir's imprisonment, we do learn he could speak so could they also speak? And Hel perhaps had the best ending out of all of them, being made a queen but that was in truth a rather roundabout way of banishing her.
@silentriot4327
@silentriot4327 3 жыл бұрын
@@kullos4 that sucks also very true and I agree that those things may have also been part to what turned him against the gods
@ericolofsson
@ericolofsson 2 жыл бұрын
He is what he is, spreading chaos sometimes malicious sometimes not. A representations of entropy, the hole wold relies on a chain around Fenrir's neck. Odin spends his time trying to gain knowledge & collect an army. Chaos still wins the word burns, he dies he spent all this time in vain. Óðinn the mad one, manic and so on.
@wolframwanders1791
@wolframwanders1791 3 жыл бұрын
Odinn: Hey Loki. I need you to do me a solid bro. Loki: I already birthed your horse. That's pretty solid. Odinn: Yea, I know... but I need you to listen to me here. Loki: Ok... Odinn: I need you to kill my son Baldr. Loki: ... Odinn: You will be hated and scorned and no one will understand. Loki: I understand. Odinn: And you can never tell anyone about this. Especially Frigg. Loki: I will do this. (Baldr is slain by his blind brother and goes to Hel) (Loki is chained up by the guts of his son, and is tortured by venom) (RAGNAROK HAPPENS) (Almost all of the gods and humans die) (Baldr is resurrected, along with all the humans in Hel) Baldr: Thanks Loki.
@mijalheinrich4331
@mijalheinrich4331 2 жыл бұрын
No I don't think, thats so easy. That sounds very much like a pagan version of Jesus dead, with Loki as Judas. I don't trust the story at all. It has been written down by a monk...🙄
@LordLoki1232
@LordLoki1232 Жыл бұрын
@@mijalheinrich4331 my thoughts on all things Snorri
@Krullenkoning
@Krullenkoning 3 жыл бұрын
I always read Loki's story as a tale that is a spiral of escalation. As a teacher I often see teens get into feuds/fights or other trouble because of pranks escalating further and further. Loki, to add, has from the get go been the odd one out between the Aesir. Being the offspring off Jotunn, his schemes being way different of a approach than that of the Aesir.
@shadowofsparta4568
@shadowofsparta4568 3 жыл бұрын
From what I understand of him. He is often quite misunderstood. Like anubis alot of people depict him as just bad I think. Though if you look into these beings. They are not that bad. In anubis's case. He is actually a good god from what I understand of him. Loki he does wrong but he tries to right his wrongs at least which is something we could take to ourselves. Like if you did something wrong the best you can do is not dwell in the past but learn from the mistakes and be better. The only mistake he couldn't fix was him killing baldr and he couldn't right it or fix the situation because he couldn't bring him back because hel didn't want to release him or something.
@majesticmoonfire9082
@majesticmoonfire9082 2 жыл бұрын
Loki isn't "bad/evil", misunderstood yes, unique yes.
@katpagan4821
@katpagan4821 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who does leave offering for Loki and some other gods it's nice to see someone else come to similar conclusions of him being satanified by Christian monks.
@jakob6122
@jakob6122 3 жыл бұрын
Thor and Loki must have been traveling together after Sif’s hair was cut, or else Thor would not have his hammer right?
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
Fair point! Hmm makes their split all the more interesting then
@jakob6122
@jakob6122 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWisdomOfOdin I agree!
@mikeystorm8124
@mikeystorm8124 Жыл бұрын
Well thor just told loki that he will bash his head in if he doesn't do something and loki just booked it outta there
@sewisinc.4545
@sewisinc.4545 3 жыл бұрын
I must say I have been slightly distracted through out to video because of the faun but I did like the it. As the second video in the series, "is Loki evil?", I am going to go with: it's a misconception because of the jewish-christian duality of good vs evil. For the Norse mithology it was orden vs chaos.
@deborahciabattoni4549
@deborahciabattoni4549 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I find agreeing with many things that you had said. I myself have found inconsistencies, but not just Loki, but other Gods as well. I don't trust the christian translators because it seems their lot in life is to make them evil. Thank you for your insight and enlightenment.
@nicoblac9368
@nicoblac9368 2 жыл бұрын
That’s just a horrible take and very very inaccurate.
@helvegen883
@helvegen883 3 жыл бұрын
As a Lokean who has been working with Loki for almost 5 years now, I truly appreciate you making this video! Its so easy to encounter hate within the community (specially from... y'know.. nazis) it's really cool feeling welcome and knowing that you spread all the information as best as you can using the resources that we have and using people's own experiences!
@seanmichaelfarrell6023
@seanmichaelfarrell6023 3 жыл бұрын
The lore says that Loki is an enemy. The Nazis would have loved Loki. Being evil and chaotic after all.
@breannaallen5933
@breannaallen5933 3 жыл бұрын
^^^^ Let's just all ignore that hogwash. Hail loki! :D
@seanmichaelfarrell6023
@seanmichaelfarrell6023 3 жыл бұрын
@@breannaallen5933 brutal lol
@breannaallen5933
@breannaallen5933 3 жыл бұрын
@@seanmichaelfarrell6023 as respectfully as I could put it. He's seriously awesome. 😅
@crouchwritinggallery
@crouchwritinggallery 2 жыл бұрын
I have been working with Loki for about 6 months. He is actually for balance and very against corruption. Being an individual, it's hard for one person to fight corruption when it's everywhere. He played tricks in attempt to expose it. Not everything he did worked, clearly and many DID view him as evil. It's hard to see truth sometimes. I find all this interesting.
@danielbergersen4459
@danielbergersen4459 3 жыл бұрын
Jacob, that was cool hiding behind the statue. Hail Odin the Allfather. Skàl💀🍻
@Matt_the_Bat444
@Matt_the_Bat444 10 ай бұрын
I want to say thank you. I worship Loki and he has been guiding me for years now and I discovered Loki is one of my panteon gods. Loki has been guiding me all my life I recieved this intuitive message from him once I got dedicated with my worship to him I feel about 3 years now of dedicated studying and being invested in my research. I put the years worth of his symbolism that he has been leaving me in my past growing up and decided to go into a deep meditation in June of this year. In my third eye visions while under deep meditation I saw his face and heard his voice. He is very attractive and his voice is deep, charming, warm, and welcoming. I had no fear other than feeling surprised and very curious. He has really really messy hair with sections that were neatly organized in braids and worn in a pony tail with bits of hair dangling down in braids. I don't share my personal worship on the deities I worship online that often but I felt really drawn to do so because I felt this was important to me. Also the deity or being I think the statue could be could be Pan. If it is Pan I felt a soul staring at me deeply while you were talking in your video. There is a heavy pressence there in that location.
@anthonystark6379
@anthonystark6379 3 жыл бұрын
I've actually heard of the Otter and the Ring! It was in the Tolkien lectures at uni
@DarkOneSixtyfour
@DarkOneSixtyfour 2 жыл бұрын
Actually Thor and Loki were still close after the cutting of Sif's hair. While it's very difficult to establish a concrete timeline in the mythos we can make a loose one based off of characters reactions to each other and artifacts in other stories. Loki and Thor are still friends in the tale of Thor getting his hammer back from the Giants and we know this has to happen after Loki cut Sif's hair because otherwise he wouldn't have the hammer. They were even friends after Loki's children were kidnapped because they are friends in the tale of their journey to ugtard Loki in which Jormungandr is mentioned and already wrapped around the world. Out seems they were friends up until the very end. Also while the idea that Loki had a crush on Sif isn't the craziest thing I've heard it doesn't sit well with me mainly because of he did it would cause tension in the relationship between the three of them and they seem to get along quite well. Unless they practiced polyamory which wouldn't surprise me as pre Christian Norse people were far more liberal about sex and these books were written after the monks visited. So he probably just did it because they thought it would be funny or as a way of getting back at something. And I have the Jackson Crawford translation of the poetic Edda and in the lokisenna or chapter 23 Loki dose confess to killing Baldur. However it's virtually impossible to tell how much of what he said was true or just to stir up trouble as he references sleeping with people's wives which seems out of character and also if he did it seems that would've been mentioned earlier. Really the whole poem he seems out of character due to drink and Heimdall and Idunn seem to think this as well. As a Lokean which who does work with Loki my own theory is that Loki was very helpful if childish and mischievous up until his children were taken from him, and since he never got compensation for that this caused an overwhelming feeling of grief and betrayal. He did kill Balder as his way of claiming his compensation. The whole story seems another case of trying to avoid your fate and ultimately sealing it. The Aesir represent society, Loki represents the needed chaos and change to help society meet the needs of everyone. Ragnarok was needed to cleanse the world but Odin tried to stop it. Thus betraying Loki and making it worse.
@imfrps
@imfrps 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your presentation…You always bring such energy and insight in all videos..You most certainly, take seriously, the information you share…Always look forward to your videos ..
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, glad I can help!
@kev1734
@kev1734 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite 'bits' are the facts, what you've dug up and the sources. And then the experiences/connections you and the folk have had. Hope you enjoy your stay over there mate!
@uberfeel
@uberfeel 3 жыл бұрын
Hail odin
@adrafinnie855
@adrafinnie855 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah........Loki is my patron Loki is a complicated god they are neither good or evil they are balance both male and female, good and evil, dark and light. They (Loki) has his own hall Nothing new here to me but great to have this information out there Fabulous video I can’t wait to see the rest of your series on Loki.
@CharismaticAngie
@CharismaticAngie 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Thank you for posting
@lokilaufeyson651
@lokilaufeyson651 2 жыл бұрын
You’ve got my attention. Thanks brotha. I love ur support and connection
@phatdayz
@phatdayz 2 жыл бұрын
I love all of your Videos Thank you for Makeing them SKOL x
@Gabriel-mt4gk
@Gabriel-mt4gk 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, congratulations!
@ReplicatorFifth
@ReplicatorFifth 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very informative video!
@1234Daan4321
@1234Daan4321 2 жыл бұрын
I always see Loki as the chaotic element of life and the stories. Óðinn seems more like the element of order (Alföðr may actually mean All-Orderer instead of All-Father, Dr. Crawford made a video on that), which makes both these Gods inherently bound. You cannot have order without chaos and vice versa, just like how you cannot have light without darkness. To me, this is the reason that the two are considered blood-brothers as revealed in Lokasenna. They both have to keep each other in check, too much chaos is not good, because everything just turns into a mess and burns to the ground, but too much order is also not good, because every little pathological thing inside a system or society will remain forever to spread its toxicity. A balance is required between the two to create something successful. Also, the name Loki is related to the English word 'lock', which already kind of gives away that he is supposed to close the stories and should be responsible for the ending (i.e. Ragnarök). Side note: there is also an Icelandic magical stave called Kaupaloki, that helps you when *closing* a business deal ('að kaupa' means 'to buy'). This association with closing, also plays in nicely with his relation with Óðinn, who is (partly) responsible for the creation of the world. Óðinn created order out of that chaos and Loki returns it back to chaos. That's just how life goes as well, when you are born, that creates order out of nothing. Then as life goes on, you will return back to chaos when you die. That's a good thing, because it allows the next generation to keep building. That's why Loki is not a source of evil, but just chaos.
@streambullets9766
@streambullets9766 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for everything!!!
@phyllisdicks9830
@phyllisdicks9830 3 жыл бұрын
Good video. Looking forward to the rest.
@BoneGoddess
@BoneGoddess 3 жыл бұрын
Please oh please would love to see one on hel. She is a good one to educate about
@leaflumos3729
@leaflumos3729 2 ай бұрын
Informative video! I had a few good chuckles with the disruptions, Loki was all over this video 😁
@RitaMarieHartford
@RitaMarieHartford 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely interesting! I adore the research!
@egyptfrazier
@egyptfrazier 2 жыл бұрын
I am so glad...I came across this video. I have dreams about Loki for a week now and I have been trying to understand why. I am learning more about him to have a better understanding to why I might be getting dreams of him.
@anakapuanui
@anakapuanui 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Cheers 🍻
@rwgoutdoors4816
@rwgoutdoors4816 3 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy your channel. Keep up the good work & stay srong.
@1234Daan4321
@1234Daan4321 2 жыл бұрын
24:40 fun fact: Tolkien actually used the Poetic Edda for inspiration for his LOTR works
@oxin1099
@oxin1099 3 жыл бұрын
whoa I'm very early! thank you for making the videos that you do
@brittneylannan3978
@brittneylannan3978 3 жыл бұрын
I love the Otter and the Ring story!!! I appreciate you doing these videos. I will be donating to Patreon soon. I can't wait to have early access to everything.
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoy my videos 🍻 and thank you for considering Patreon in the future!
@brittneylannan3978
@brittneylannan3978 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWisdomOfOdin Gods be good I will have a great job and will be able to help you to continue to your channel.
@_kmCarter
@_kmCarter 3 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Hail!
@chrisjohn8967
@chrisjohn8967 3 жыл бұрын
Great imfo thank you
@ericgustafson2976
@ericgustafson2976 2 жыл бұрын
Good keep it up good format
@lenareis8946
@lenareis8946 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the influence of norse myths on Lord of The Rings! Really cool story and references!
@mckinleyteague2667
@mckinleyteague2667 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful stories all of them. Skal
@demonicademonica8323
@demonicademonica8323 11 ай бұрын
I appreciate it and you sir, Thanks
@elixanova
@elixanova 2 жыл бұрын
22:45 What's so weird is years of studying norse myth & I'd never heard of the otter story either - just last night I read the section of Loki Agent of Asgard where the comic has a version of the otter story, and then literally today just saw this video talking about the otter story. No coincidences, as they say
@doublesalopetoimcre
@doublesalopetoimcre 3 жыл бұрын
thank you :) you actually did what i asked for. a rare thing in youtube, at least for me.
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
Glad I could be of service!
@anamargaridaoliveira3626
@anamargaridaoliveira3626 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I hadn't noticed that the death of Balder is not attributed to Loki in the Poetic Edda, the theory makes a lot of sense actually! I wonder what explanation is given for the death of Balder in this case?
@phyllisdicks9830
@phyllisdicks9830 3 жыл бұрын
There is a story, recounted in the appendices of a book entitled "The Norse Myths," wherein Loki had no part in Baldr's death. His death is due to a feud between him and Hod, who is not blind, over Nanna, whom both of them desire. Hod kills Baldr with his sword, named Mistletine. It is hinted in the account that this story is older than the Snorri account. I hope this is helpful.
@anamargaridaoliveira3626
@anamargaridaoliveira3626 3 жыл бұрын
@@phyllisdicks9830 that's very helpful and very interesting, thank you so much!
@phyllisdicks9830
@phyllisdicks9830 3 жыл бұрын
@@anamargaridaoliveira3626 You're very welcome.
@WhoTookMyMirr
@WhoTookMyMirr 3 жыл бұрын
@@phyllisdicks9830 Very interesting, I can almost see Hod blaming Loki for "influencing" him.
@phyllisdicks9830
@phyllisdicks9830 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhoTookMyMirr Lots of people want to blame Loki for something, so, yeah. I can see that.
@thegracklepeck
@thegracklepeck 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! I don't know much about the Norse gods yet but you have a really enjoyable style of telling these various tales. Out of curiosity, what part of Germany were you in in this video? (Edit: nevermind, you mentioned Munich at the tale end)
@81dedhed
@81dedhed 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the video Arith Härger did on Loki?
@ardhanarisvara333
@ardhanarisvara333 3 жыл бұрын
I heard that the heart Loki ate could have been Gullveig. The Aesir burned her 3 times.
@grandmothersgardensouthden7479
@grandmothersgardensouthden7479 9 ай бұрын
Loki is a very interessting god/energy inside us. As a TFT/EFT practisioner I noticed that Loki makes me aware of the clients traumas much faster. (I get the words that triggers the trauma so I can release the trauma with TFT) He is the littel brother energy that set you off by pressing the rigth buttons. A good god to have as a TFT healer. I'm greatefull for Loki is helping me identifing my clients trauma faster and thereby giving healing. That is also why Loki has a bond with Odin, because all the dead people Odin collects in Valhal are the traumas people get over a lifetime. Soulparts trapped - frozen. Loki triggers the trauma so we can see them and then defrost them. Interessting Freya get half all the dead people coming to Valhal, because half of all trauma people have are related to sex. Loki is a very important energy for healing trauma. He is the only god that knowns where your hurts are. Thank you Loki!😍
@forfoxsake89
@forfoxsake89 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't think Sif is trying to play peacemaker. I think she's acting as peacemaker in an attempt to stop Loki from saying anything about her, but Loki gives no f**ks and is airing EVERYONES dirty laundry. Making it apparent that they are not as innocent and "clean" as they think or would like others to think. He, I feel, is making a point to say, not in so many words, that they are as "bad" as he is and that he's sick of being singled out.
@v.9964
@v.9964 2 жыл бұрын
I'm also pretty sure her and Loki slept together and she didn't want to be stigmatized for it or ostracized for being a hypocrite. Instead of owning up to her mistakes she tried to throw him under the bus as well. But I agree with these assumptions. Loki is having none of that. She's playing victim while sleeping with her Husband's best friend. She's being holier than thou.Everyone else gets to do it, why can't he?!
@NonBinaryGayEmo2349
@NonBinaryGayEmo2349 12 күн бұрын
So, for Loki's own story being perceived by certain individuals, this has happened, negatively, due to the unfortunate fact, about certain figures; hadn't realistically been too fond of his own actions. Because of this, they had fabricated certain stories to even; make Loki out to be, much more horrific; than, his usually wholesome actions. This even circles back to when, his mouth had been sewn shut, for; speaking the truth, and he had been shunned due to him; speaking his truth. This is very informative video; thank you for creating this amazing video, truly.☮
@healingwithnepti3717
@healingwithnepti3717 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome !!
@dr.clocks
@dr.clocks 3 жыл бұрын
So 2 ravens keep coming back and chilling in the front of my house is that a good sign
@danielbergersen4459
@danielbergersen4459 3 жыл бұрын
O course!!! The gods are among you!!!
@WhoTookMyMirr
@WhoTookMyMirr 3 жыл бұрын
try offering peanuts to them, even if they aren't messengers it's good to have corvids on your side.
@danielbergersen4459
@danielbergersen4459 3 жыл бұрын
@@WhoTookMyMirr thanks for the tip! I sometimes go to the forest and give chicken legs to the Ravens, for an offering to Odin
@noahhecker6672
@noahhecker6672 2 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if they are or not but I always regard them with respect just in case it is the allfather who sees through those eyes
@KobyMathews
@KobyMathews Ай бұрын
The thing that's confusing about that is Loki has helped Thor in journeys where Thor has his hammer. Thor wouldn't have had his hammer until Sifs hair was cut
@maryannwalkerdreadykay13
@maryannwalkerdreadykay13 2 ай бұрын
They are all init together something we can learn from.
@brandonedwards2608
@brandonedwards2608 3 жыл бұрын
Man, once my financials get a little more secure I’ll be joining your patron. One of these days when I’m passing through KY I’ll have to buy you some beers and tell you a few stories. Coincidentally, I was in KY at the time when I had my first experience and came to the faith back in 07.
@deltaomegaarts3705
@deltaomegaarts3705 Жыл бұрын
I have heard the story of the otter and the salmon before. It was in my Mythology class in college.
@lindarisberg5345
@lindarisberg5345 3 жыл бұрын
hey just wanted to ask what's your view on the American gods series also love your videos
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
Fun series. I have read the book and loved it. I despise the tv show though. Some interesting thoughts and theories to how gods work that I quite like. But in the end still a fantasy
@nanomoxxie6890
@nanomoxxie6890 3 жыл бұрын
#1 underrated KZfaq. You got me fascinated and frankly obsessed with learning more Norce mythology. Thanks Jacob.
@oneofthesun7454
@oneofthesun7454 3 жыл бұрын
Pan fits right into my pagan mind!
@tannermccollum7060
@tannermccollum7060 3 жыл бұрын
I play a videogame called Smite, and I was wondering if you could do a review of the Nordic gods, and see how accurate they historically (since the game tries to focus on historic characterization)?
@panzermensch1577
@panzermensch1577 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder if any Deutscher stared and recognized anything Jacob was talking about.
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
Oh they definitely stared! I’m sure they recognized some things. There was an outdoor market 20 feet from me lol
@nightangel486
@nightangel486 3 жыл бұрын
I think that tale of the ring is also the basis of the Niebelungenlied
@clarissaschnabel
@clarissaschnabel 3 жыл бұрын
Which is interesting in itself, because clearly both Odin and the killing of Baldr are elements in the Nibelungenlied, in the form of Hagen von Tronje and Siegfried, respectively. (Yes, I know it's mixed up, but still.)
@Hobbit_At_Heart
@Hobbit_At_Heart 2 жыл бұрын
In spring with Loki, I’m curious to know more about his wife Sigyn:/Sif?
@Rgaming578
@Rgaming578 2 жыл бұрын
Loki is very playful and sweet and loveable but he has his flaws just like us
@Brian-cz8vu
@Brian-cz8vu 3 жыл бұрын
The otter story is in the book by jasckson Crawford- The saga of the Volsungs with the saga of Ragnar Lothbbrok
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow never realized that! (Only read Saga of the Volsungs once)
@Brian-cz8vu
@Brian-cz8vu 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWisdomOfOdin chapter 14 page 26 brother
@juansuarez4847
@juansuarez4847 2 жыл бұрын
I’m new to this, I have always found this fascinating… I also have no connection to the Christian faith… Norse paganism seems to call to me. One thing I was wondering… what are Loki’s origins… how did he end up with the aesir gods?
@abhiramn474
@abhiramn474 Жыл бұрын
Loki is a fun name to render in Sanskrit. lokiH vancanadevaH --> Loki is the god of trickery loke, aham tvA loke -->Loki! I am looking at you (loke is vocative of Loki but is homophonic to Sanskrit "I look") lokiH bhAkSAsuracamUm nayati rAgnarokaprAlaye --> Loki leads the Jotun army during Ragnarok-destruction.
@danguillou713
@danguillou713 Жыл бұрын
I love Lokasenna as a story, as a piece of literature. It does several things. One is a story of an epic breakup fight. Loki is telling the gods that while they were happy to take his help, they never really adopted him as one of their own, they don’t like or respect him, they just use him. He is obviously really upset about it and this leads to an escalating cycle of overshare, and at the end he has burned all his bridges. By the way, my version has an exchange between him and Frigga (Odins wife; Baldurs mom) where she is trying to get him to slow down and stop making everything worse for himself, and his response is that she wouldn’t say that if she knew that he’s responsible for Baldur being dead and unable to return. Her answer is really terse. About ”I did not know that. I do now.” So that’s another thing about Lokasenna, it is a story of the most grandiose self sabotage in mythology. Which is completely in character, since poor impulse control and inability to consider long time consequences is one of Lokis hallmarks as a trickster. Plus, he can be really mean. You can call it high int, low wis, or you can put it down as the price for being the god of anti social personality disorder. It is also a really funny recount of everything that the author considers bad or shameful about their gods. Delivered in a semi safe way since it is coming out of Lokis mouth. ”What? No! I never said that Odin is a backstabbing bastard, Brage is a wuss and Freya a total slut. It was Loki who said that!” Often done while referencing other stories, for the meta satisfaction for our inner nerd. Finally it gives really good characterization for a lot of the gods, as Lokis taunts move around the table, giving them each an opportunity to show how they respond. Some get angry, some frightened, some try to argue that what he is doing is immoral, others try to reason with him. Odin almost seem to think it’s funny as he trades insults right back, whereas Thor is becoming so angry he’s about to lose control and violate hospitality. All in all one of the best bits from the Poetic Edda.
@sateevagarcia4384
@sateevagarcia4384 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you don't mind me taking notes on things I didn't know either I trust your research
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
I am honored to be worthy of note taking!
@sateevagarcia4384
@sateevagarcia4384 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWisdomOfOdin no thank you sir for expanding my knowledge that much more from what I know it's fantastic
@afreakaboucher1316
@afreakaboucher1316 Жыл бұрын
@@TheWisdomOfOdin do you worship Loki? .
@montanablack1137
@montanablack1137 2 жыл бұрын
"...Boy..."
@Motivationalwisdomspeech
@Motivationalwisdomspeech 3 жыл бұрын
Haglas óðinn
@mikeystorm8124
@mikeystorm8124 Жыл бұрын
Every time I look up stuff on loki a gigant fucking spider appears and scares the shit outa me 😑
@mikayelalikhanyan1587
@mikayelalikhanyan1587 2 жыл бұрын
20:08 Sophis Bug
@user-zl7gc2zp8k
@user-zl7gc2zp8k 10 ай бұрын
no it is 720 for asher lets meet asap and put this puzzle together
@midnightprince30
@midnightprince30 3 жыл бұрын
My wife says loki been bringing us ill luck. Idk if I'm enough for his appetite so I'm doubtful. Should I give him an offering just in case? Second, I could really use some boon to help my family find a new place to rent, any suggestion on whom to ask for help for my families home and hearth?
@oxin1099
@oxin1099 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, it cant hurt to do an offering, can it?
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
I explore these questions in Friday’s video!
@phyllisdicks9830
@phyllisdicks9830 3 жыл бұрын
He likes pineapple juice.
@CurrentGenGaming
@CurrentGenGaming 3 жыл бұрын
This is 100% personal opinion from a random dude you don’t know in the comments of KZfaq so do with it what you will; regardless here’s my opinion. I’d say give an offering to him of something you think he’d enjoy, (I give him lemon juice...but that’s a long story.)and instead of asking for help or asking him to “stop” confirm with him your awareness of his presence. Let him know you know he’s there and that his “Ill will” hasn’t gone unnoticed. From my own personal experiences, Loki doesn’t take kindly to being told how to behave. Even if that isn’t necessarily the way it was meant. That’s the way he takes it. Rather I find that he wants to help. But Loki being Loki before he helps you; he messes with you to see what he can get away with. The longer it goes the more brazen he gets. But once you make it clear that “hey I see what you’re doing..is all this fuckery funny to you?” (My words. Don’t have to be yours.) He’ll reward you. I feel like calling him out on his shit, is kind of like his test of worthiness. At the same time, this is Loki so the way he helps you may not seem like help at first. As for who to ask for help for your family’s home and health, go with your heart and what you feel. That’s the best advice I can give for any of this really. But personally, I don’t think Freya would be a bad choice.
@phyllisdicks9830
@phyllisdicks9830 3 жыл бұрын
@@CurrentGenGaming He also doesn't like being accused of doing stuff he didn't do. Being scapegoated is never a good feeling, for anybody, nor is it a burden that's easy to bear. He's borne it entirely too often.
@ezekielgreene8995
@ezekielgreene8995 3 жыл бұрын
Hey just want to say, I really like your channel and a lot of your videos. However I'm going to have to pushback on your claim that the Poetic edda does not mention Loki killing Baldur. In the Lokasenna, stanza 28, Loki tells Frigg "Frigg, do you want me to say still more about my wicked deeds; for I brought it about that you will never again see Baldur ride to the halls." This supports Snorri's story in that while Loki wasn't Bladur's actual killer, he was certainly the one who orchestrated it. Hope this helps your quest for knowledge and seeking the truth.
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🍻
@barret5641
@barret5641 2 жыл бұрын
Locks keep people honest.
@kaithorenfawkes8312
@kaithorenfawkes8312 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm mistaken, but aren't all the Norse gods jotunns? After all, isn't Odin a giant, too? What's the difference between Odin's giant blood and Loki's giant blood? Most of the Aesir (if not all) are giants. Why are they warring with their own kind? Thor's mother (not Frigg) is a giant, after all. Odin's father, Bor, was a giant. So why the self hate? If it's explained somewhere, I must have missed it.
@ericolofsson
@ericolofsson 2 жыл бұрын
Odin was half jötunn "giant" & aesir, The jötunn are often described to be human size and good looking. Ymir the first jötunn was created by melted ice. Ymirs sweat (ice giants water?) created more giants (seems to be done quite quickly) Odin saw this as a threat killed & Ymir. It's a bit complicated tho there is a lot o giant "races" personally i think Odin sees them as a threat, and it seems that they joined Loki to free Fenrir's so he was probably right 🤷‍♂️
@marktotham6193
@marktotham6193 3 жыл бұрын
Cyclic understanding...linear understanding
@kaithorenfawkes8312
@kaithorenfawkes8312 2 жыл бұрын
Call me nitpicky, but I refuse to read either of the Snorri versions of the Prose and Poetic Edda. Simply because he poisons the tales with his Christianity. So, I find a more truthful version of the Eddas. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with them, but at least I don't have to contend with a snarky Christian who just wanted to ruin another religion/beliefs. Yes, Neil Gaiman's version of 'Norse Mythology' is basically the same as Snorri's but it's told in a more believable way and it doesn't slander the gods nearly as much as the original Eddas. There's also a book called 'The Gospel of Loki' which tells the stories in both Eddas from Loki's point of view. I can't recall the author, but I know it's a woman. It's very well done and even humorous. She put out a sequel to it but I haven't had a chance to read it yet. Just know that old Snorri is, in my humble opinion, not the best way to learn about the Norse gods. While the material may come from the original Eddas, the way it is written/narrated makes a huge difference. Most people don't like being manipulated by way of misdirection or being insulted. So, I avoid everything the bible thumping Christians support.
@Zippythewondersquirrel
@Zippythewondersquirrel 2 жыл бұрын
You would love the operas of the RingCycle with the Ring of the Nibelungen. Loki is key in it.
@grafmecx2641
@grafmecx2641 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought 3 days ago a honda cb1000r in red colour and I want to name my bike Frigg.. I want to buy a red Keychain with her name and baptize her this way.. is there a way to officially name something after a God?
@RitaMarieHartford
@RitaMarieHartford 3 жыл бұрын
I have cars named for some Greek Gods, often I just felt the pull for the name! As long as you feel it’s fine!
@grafmecx2641
@grafmecx2641 3 жыл бұрын
@@RitaMarieHartford funny thing you named cars after greek God's because I'm Greek.. which God's you chose?
@lokilaufeyson651
@lokilaufeyson651 2 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be a superhero btw so I’m not a devil.. but yes, ofc I could be playing one of my tricks lol
@user-oe2tb9pu1o
@user-oe2tb9pu1o 3 жыл бұрын
Question if the gods are mortal then that means that they are dead right?
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 3 жыл бұрын
The gods have a cyclical layer it then. After ragnarok it is said Baldr returns to Midgard. If Bladr can return I think it’s safe to assume many of the gods can come back in one way. I cover this theory a little more in my Ragnarok video. It all depends on if you think Ragnarok has happened, is yet to happen, or happens over and over again. Personally I think it happens (paganism ended for the most part a thousand years ago) and poof a thousand years later it seems to be making a big return. Looks like a cycle to me!
@user-oe2tb9pu1o
@user-oe2tb9pu1o 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWisdomOfOdin thanks for the insight
@badone2111
@badone2111 3 жыл бұрын
You should give a review of Ragnarok season 2. I have watched the second season and enjoyed it much more than the first, but would like to hear your thoughts on it.
@tanangelaanderson4247
@tanangelaanderson4247 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love that show! The 2nd season definitely gets more exciting! I'm curious about your thoughts on Freya? I really thought it was Gry but now maybe it's Iman? Waiting for season 3 is torture! Even though you know the story. Will the writers play it that way or not!?
@coddieshifflett6298
@coddieshifflett6298 3 жыл бұрын
How is one a Norse pagan without sacrifice?
@afreakaboucher1316
@afreakaboucher1316 Жыл бұрын
What sacrifice? .
@KeeganD93
@KeeganD93 3 жыл бұрын
I think that Loki sets up trouble so that he can swoop in as the hero and get recognition. But there's also times where I think he's just saving his ass.
@olawcristophersoun1373
@olawcristophersoun1373 3 жыл бұрын
We do not pronounce Loki that way in Iceland.
@noahk2987
@noahk2987 3 жыл бұрын
how do you pronounce it?
@olawcristophersoun1373
@olawcristophersoun1373 3 жыл бұрын
@@noahk2987. LorKee. Closest I can get in words. The K is harsh.
@noahk2987
@noahk2987 3 жыл бұрын
@@olawcristophersoun1373 interesting! i’ll have to look up some videos of icelandic pronunciation :)
@afreakaboucher1316
@afreakaboucher1316 Жыл бұрын
@@olawcristophersoun1373 not everybody is icelandic .
@prudencethewitch140
@prudencethewitch140 Жыл бұрын
Been on a witchcraft and Pagan journey for about two and a half years now. Despite my Norse heritage, I didnt connect with any Norse gods right away, But, my main witchcraft patron quickly became Persephone. I recently discovered Sigyn. I quickly bonded with her and saw similarities to Persephone. Everything suddenly clicked into place. I think I have my main Pagan deity now :)
@reconquista3464
@reconquista3464 Жыл бұрын
Loki isnt an evil god,just a god associated with necesary change. The evil was attributed to him throught christianity. Loki is a god of cunning and mischief.
@afreakaboucher1316
@afreakaboucher1316 Жыл бұрын
Personally I like Loki .
@239Loki-TutLoki
@239Loki-TutLoki 12 күн бұрын
seek wisdom and wisdom you shall find with a righteous heart... only Christ brings righteousness...
@user-sr3lc3bj7k
@user-sr3lc3bj7k 10 ай бұрын
Ironically, that fun is another pagan religion. That is the god pan.
@panqnrae3968
@panqnrae3968 Жыл бұрын
I feel Loki is God of manipulation, either good or bad. I think that sums up all of his defective actions.
@desmondmoonbear8149
@desmondmoonbear8149 3 жыл бұрын
And once again I'll say Wisdom muffin
@daanvangeijlswijk7787
@daanvangeijlswijk7787 25 күн бұрын
Hey man, why such a hurry? Take it easy.
@TheWisdomOfOdin
@TheWisdomOfOdin 25 күн бұрын
Because I was younger and in the middle of a city 😆 Much slower now
@daanvangeijlswijk7787
@daanvangeijlswijk7787 21 күн бұрын
@@TheWisdomOfOdin Happy to hear that man!
@alisonwilliams-bailey3561
@alisonwilliams-bailey3561 8 ай бұрын
Funny I see Loki as not good looking creepy and Frey as the good looking one 😉 Sorry just my preference at a Vanic Norse Pagan.
@dehydratedculture9126
@dehydratedculture9126 Жыл бұрын
Hello my name is Jack and I eat horse bacon
@B1_1_9_7_5
@B1_1_9_7_5 11 ай бұрын
First of all I'm pretty sure what you just said was altered by autocorrector if not out of the taste I want to try it someday
@ollelokang7981
@ollelokang7981 3 жыл бұрын
Would love to become part of the community and learn more, shame that I have to pay for it though. Love your content either way.
@magiofthoth5832
@magiofthoth5832 3 жыл бұрын
Ocean Keltoi?
@ollelokang7981
@ollelokang7981 3 жыл бұрын
@@magiofthoth5832 I am in his discord actually :)
@afreakaboucher1316
@afreakaboucher1316 Жыл бұрын
Low-key low-key you should really get to know me by Ally Brooke and Tyga mean while me Loki Loki you should really get to know me 😆😆😆😆😆😆 .
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