May Allah make sapience institute a means for millions to accept Islam. Ameen

Subboor Ahmed is extremely charismatic

Subboor is so engaging it’s unbelievable mashallah, truly my favourite person on youtube to listen to

Ohh that's Great, Hijab was there sitting among listeners and posed a great question! Amazing Intellectual circle it is.

We missed brother subboor

Finally, the main man himself

Beautiful and very informative episode for all of us to grasp MashAllah! Essentially what this episode did was it focused on the primary issues rather than curtailing to the secondary issues Outlining the philosophical problems and issues which Darwinism was built upon (as this episode did) is far more important than debating the other secondary issues The reason being is if a worldview is built upon false premises, axioms, and assumptions (as was shown in this episode) then there is no point in debating about the conclusions which are derived from these false premises, axioms, and assumptions. Rather let’s dismantle the foundations and the building will eventually come crashing down Learned a lot in this episode Alhamdulilah, probably one of my favourite Londoniyyahs yet. May Allah bless Sapience and all involved, Ameen!

Listening to a sapience institute video is like attending a university lecture So much information. May Allah bless you guys

Hayakum Allah. Al Hamduli'Allah for you respected blessed brother and all Sapience Institute. Hafadhakum Allah wa Barakah fiykum wa Zadakum min Fadlihi ameen

May Allah Accept your works, and make it a means of acceptance and Guidance for the Ummah!

A perfect man for this topic

جزاكم الله خيراً

subhanallah, you guys are incredible mashallah

Jazakallahu Khayran Ahsanul Jaza

I never understood how evolution would disprove God. Understanding how evolution works on creatures made me more in awe of God. It's a more nuanced process which must be put in place by an intelligent designer. If there is a rule or an algorithm, there is always someone behind it. And there is no random mutation as the atheistic narrative claims, because there is no such thing as random. Some people will always assume that certain things are meaningless and random just because we don't have the whole picture yet. I think in recent centuries, there was a deliberate propaganda to boost the "clash between religion and science" narrative. Atheists scientists are against religion and some religious people are against evolution as a whole. But I recently learned that in the earlier centuries of Islam, muslims were open to the idea of evolution. Even John William Draper mentions the muslim evolution theory in his books. “I have to deplore the systematic manner in which the literature of Europe has contrived to put out of sight our scientific obligations to the Muhammadans. Surely they cannot be much longer hidden. Injustice founded on religious rancor and national conceit cannot be perpetuated forever.”(Draper, John William. The Intellectual Development of Europe, p. 42.) “[Christian] theological authorities were therefore constrained to look with disfavor on any attempt to carry back the origin of the earth to an epoch indefinitely remote, and on the Muhammadan theory of evolution which declared that human beings developed over a long period of time from lower forms of life to the present condition.” “Sometimes, not without surprise, we meet the ideas with which we flatter ourselves with having originated our own times. Thus our modern doctrine of evolution and development were taught their [Muslim] schools. In fact they carried them much farther than we are disposed to do, extending them even inorganic and minerals.” (The History of the Conflict between Religion and Science, John William Draper, pp. 118, 187-188.) Read my other comments to see the Qur'anic base for evolution.

Good idea to bring Subboor to talk about evolution. Thank u guys this series is gold

This is what we needed

Wow Subboor himself. Missed you man. May Allah preserve you.

Amazing..! SubhanAllah keep it up, the quality of content is top notch Ma sha Allah

that was well explained ! thanks

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JazakAllahu khairan

Excellent video, as always in fact

Much needed

BRUH I WAS WAITING FOR THIS 😭😭😭😭😭

After long time 😍.

Thanks for the lecture. Here are some verses from the Qur'an, which we can use to reach a particular theistic understanding of evolution (which was referred to as "Muhammadan Theory of Evolution" by John William Draper). The concept of evolution as a "divine mechanism created by God" was apparently accepted among muslim thinkers such as Ibni Khaldun (1332-1406), Muhammad al-Haytham (965-1039), al-Biruni (973-1048) in the earlier periods of Islam. Keep in mind that these are particular translations/interpretations from a certain perspective, and ofcourse in Qur'an, there is usually more than one layer of meaning in a given ayah. (Stages of creation might mean "Embrionic stages" as well as "Evolutionary stages" for example) And also, some might be taken out of context here, but you are free to read the original ayah in arabic or read another translation to reach your own conclusions. (Quran 2:30) And when your Lord said to the angels, "Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority." They said, "Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?" Allah said, "Indeed, I know that which you do not know." --(Quran 2:35) And We said, "O Adam, dwell, you and your wife, in Paradise and eat therefrom in [ease and] abundance from wherever you will. But do not approach this tree, lest you be among the wrongdoers." (Quran 3:33-34) "Indeed, Allah selected Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of 'Imran over the worlds. DESCENDANTS, some of them from others. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing" (Quran 4:1)...created you [all] from a singular 'nafs' and created from it its mate and dispersed from both of them many [human] men and women. --(Quran 21:35) Every living being (nafsin) shall have a taste of death (Quran 4:133) If it were His will, He could destroy you, o mankind, and create another race; for He hath power this to do. -(Quran 14:19) If God wills he can remove you and put in your place a new creation. --(Quran 35:16) If He wills, He can do away with you and bring forth a new creation. ---(Quran 47:38) And if you turn away, He will replace you with another people; they will not be the likes of you. (Quran 6:2) He is Who has created you from clay, then he spent a term of time (away from you), and (it is) a specific term he determined. Yet, you doubt (his ability)! (Quran 6.133) If He wills, he can do away with you and give succession after you to WHATEVER He wills, just as He produced you from the descendants of another people (qawmin). (Quran 10:13-14) And we had already destroyed generations before you when they wronged, and their messengers had come to them with clear proofs, but they were not to believe. Thus do we recompense the criminal people. Then we made you successors in the Earth after them so that We may observe how you will do. (Quran 11:61) It is He Who has produced you from the earth and settled you therein.. (Quran 16:4) He created man from a sperm-drop; then at once, he is a clear adversary. (Quran 21:30) Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the Earth were of one connected entity, then We separated them and We made every living thing out of water? Will they not then believe? (Quran 24:45) Allah has created every animal out of water . Of them (is a category which) walks upon its belly, (another which) walks upon two legs, and ( a third which) walks upon four . Allah creates what He wills. Allah is Able to do everything (He wants). (Quran 28:68) And your Lord creates what He wills and selects; not for them was the choice. Exalted is Allah and high above what they associate with Him. (Quran 29:20) Say: "Roam the earth and observe how the creation was initiated. (Quran 30:27) God originates creation; Then reproduces it; and For him it is most easy. ... more in this thread ...

Much needed video

I think this was the best episode for me in the londoniyah series by subhoor. I would like subhoor to give a reading list if possible at some point.

Thanks for this video

Check out dr. Eyad Qunaibi's videos on evolution.

More videos on evolution please

You should've made slides like Muhammad hijab so we could get reference

Subboor please make a nice long video compilation of all the nonsense the likes of dawkins krauss etc write in their books.

SubhanAllah JazakumuAllahu Khairan

amazing walahi outstanding topic, sapience is my home for polemical discusiions

Who wrote that poem at the beginning?

I don't care if Darwin was an atheist or a believer, I'll break his theory

Bro Subboor when you writing a book???? Need to take notes. There's so much good information, history and philosophical points being made here....

Allah ap ko ajr e Azeem ata kry

masha ALLAH

We don’t need Hijab anymore, Suboor should take his place 😆😆. More about evolution please

جزاک الله خيرا

Please bring more..

Beautiful episode and much needed! Thank you. Ps: it would be good to rehearse the poem a little hearing the reader stutter here and there wasn’t fit for the great lyrics.

Microevolution basically Methodological Naturalism, in term of Macroevolution things get weird or puzzling 😵‍💫

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first day that hijjab in the bench in londoniyahh hijjab is retired

Salam Alaykum wa Rahmatullah wa Barakatahu Ustadh Suboor, please write a book about this topic in connection to islamic belief

May allah give you great

What do you meany when you said that just because the main opinion among the scientists in a field is one and it's preconceived everything related to genetics and biochemistry is not important to the question?

Can we get access to the poem please?

I usually don't hear the translation of the poem. Where can we access it

Why is no one talking about the blue watch

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This is only about Evolution and Theism. Yes, debunking intelligent design is not necessarily disprove God, however it is a problem for Islam. Would be nice if this can be adressed as well.

Finally Subboor talking about the evolution myth again!

How to get the Arabic poem?

Where can I get the notes of Londoniyyah lectures????

WOWWWW

More punch on evolution 😊

Subbor is the next evolutionary stage of Mohammed Hijab !

Treasures...

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As a muslim who doesn't see any problem with accepting the theory of evolution, I find some problems with some of what the brother has said. Mainly minimizing the modern synthesis of genetics and darwins theory of evolution, and homoplasy. If anything both of these are evidence in favor of the theory of evolution, the tree of life. Natural sciences are just like all sciences, with the main goal being to discover an objective truth and as much as possible stay away from intuition and guesses alone, meaning test and prove hypotheses to arrive at some sense of objectivity. It is the same for the science of hadith, where early muslims began collecting and coming up with systems to verify sayings of rasulullah SAW in an attempt to objectively preserve the sunnah and minimize the amount of human interpretation, interference, lies, and fabrications being spread. As a matter of fact in hadith sciences there are two categories that can be taken as a analogy to the natural sciences, the idea of making a distinction between the number of narrators per level in a narration of hadith: successive (mutawatir) vs. single narrators. It is known in our teaching about mutawatir hadith that "A successive narration is one conveyed by narrators so numerous that it is not conceivable that they have agreed upon an untruth thus being accepted as unquestionable in its veracity." Meaning the more narrators that all say the same thing from the same incident, the more likely it is true. Natural sciences have something similar. The competing ideas about how life has diversified before Darwin's theory are irrelevant today because they are in effect each "single narrator" or each a competing idea. In the light of the "modern synthesis" of genetics and evolution, aka the finding that two separate fields of science can reinforce the same idea, darwin's hypothesis of evolution is elevated to a theory of evolution. The term "scientific theory" gets thrown around by lay people to mean a guess, but a scientific theory is what an educated guess or hypothesis becomes when it survives many tests and and has many unrelated evidences (narrators) confirming the same thing. Not unlike the label of Mutawatir. And the confirmations for evolution keep on coming even to this modern day from other fields like anatomy (homoplasy, homologous and analogous structures), embryology, biochemistry, molecular biology. Evolution can explain several different observed phenomena that Darwin never observed himself showing its significant explanatory power. "The most successful explanations - those which explain and make accurate predictions in a wide range of circumstances - are often called scientific theories."

For some reason when I saw Br Subboor in the thumbnail I could hear the Ertugrul theme music in the background.

Darwin did propagate "social Darwinism" because he himself said that the time should come when the "higher races" will exterminate the "lower races". It is an introduction to classical social Darwinism.

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How come evolution vs the story of Adam and eve was not covered?

evolution is a fact. A theory in common language and a scientific theory are 2 completely different things. In science, a theory is a functional explanation of a natural phenomenon, it explain how a fact works, such as evolution in this case., it is the highest level in the scientific field. (gravity theory, tectonic plate theory, cells theory). it is very different from a theory in common language which is just a hypothesis

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Does vestigial organs prove evolution ? Also I thought every body part has a purpose . So it makes sense the entire body has a purpose..but correct me if I'm wrong but vestigial organs say other...

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Darwinism is a Religion

Yes a theory was introduced and then another person improve it. What a shame my guy

Do u think Darwin would be atheist if he knew what we knew today

This is a man who knows the ins and outs of evolutionary biology literature

Can we practically disprove Darwinism?

It's been half an hour, he's only bitching about others.

It's highly ironic that someone who persists in referring to the strawman of 'Darwinism' thinks he can elucidate for the masses on the subject of evolution. And it's doubly ironic that Subboor seems to handwave away the idea that evolution is 'kryptonite' to theism, given how much time he spends trying to refute it.

Someone who doesn’t even understand the scientific theory of evolution is going to lie to you about “Darwinism”? Meanwhile, he believes in magic.

"Darwinism undermines the only remotely plausible reason for believing in the existence of God." A perfectly standard, perfectly well endorsed mainstream academic point of view regarding the relationship between evolution and theism. Regardless of the misrepresentation presented by islam pushers.

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