How you guys have only 26k subs is criminal, best golf channel on youtube

I was waiting for this video for soooo long. You single-handedly answered all my questions. Great stuff!

Great video! Love how you two make videos interesting. It’s always an interesting intellectual conversation about options. Not just name brand hit far... Really good quality work.

Thanks for covering a topic I’ve been curious about forever. Great great vid here guys!

I never wanted to be fit for clubs more now that I've been watching you guys.. Well done.

Love the science and everything that goes with it. I could look at the data all day! Keep up the amazing work!

I have a similar configuration in a 2018 Callaway UT w/graphite design 95x and it has drastically improved my 230-240 area. Thanks for validating this great setup 👍🏽

The vid I didn’t know I needed. Thank you!

Matt makes it look so easy!!! Love the topic and video!

Great to see the subscriber count roll over to 24K. Awesome content this week guys 👍

Great video guys. Awesome information.

You’re guys videos are on point. Glad I clicked on your channel and subscribed.

I just picked this club up today used. I cant wait to give it a go! Great video

You guys are amazing and when i have the money to get a whole new set i am gonna come see you

Thanks guys this video was exactly what I was looking for.

Comparisons between driving iron / rescue / 5 wood would be interesting 👍👌🏼

Awesome. Totally undecided about this end of my bag and whether to put hybrids in the bag or a driving iron. Being fit next week and will be keen on trying the zu85 and the Callaway x

love you guys you are very scientific and fact based love your videos keep them coming.

Great informative. I went the hybrid route; because it offered me more flexibility one those shots off the fairway.

Great vid! I’ve always wondered if that would be an option for me. I don’t have the fastest swing speed but I also don’t love my hybrids

Really interesting! Especially someone like Matty who hits the ball so well to not like a 3 iron! I have my 4 in my 716 AP1s bent to 20.5 degrees and I love it but it does have an XP90 shaft in it. I have a p790 UDI and it rockets when I catch it but I'm not as consistent with it yet. Great video

Great video. This is a little off-topic, but I have really benefited from my new Cobra Utility Iron, especially in windy conditions, because I seem to be able to keep it lower, out of the wind, easier than my hybrids.

Great video guys! I play 2 utility irons in the bag. An Xforged UT 24° bent to 22° and a P790 UDI bent from 17° to 18° it has done wonders for the upper end of the bag!

Great video and shows the clear benefit and advantage if a UDI! I’m looking to get one in my bag so would be keen to see you review what you’d consider as being the best ones in a head to head.

Thank you for doing this video. It answers a good question. And the winner is ... driving iron all day long. More consistent, easier to hit with better predictability.

Everytime I'm looking for review's on anything club related this guys do the best job, I feel like they give you the most straight up information about any product based on sincere performance and not on bias information to sell you a product.

been using a taylormade P790 3i paired with a Mitsubishi Tensei Pro White hybrid 90TX --- absolute game changer off the tee. thanks for posting this comparison vid fellas - great content as always!

As a senior, don't hit the ball miles and struggled with hybrids. Tried the Srixon and G400 crossover clubs both at 23 degrees. Could not get on with the Srixon as did not get great distance even when I hit the sweet spot (but that might have been the stiff shaft which was the only option there). However, really impressed with the Ping - in fact bought one - on the course, good strike not far short of an average-strike driver distance. Very happy bunny

12:10 I agree! I want my clubs to demand I put a decent swing on them to a certain extent. After saying that I do use a driving iron as sort of a 2.5 iron to replace my 3 iron just because it fills the range I need to cover for some longer par 3 off the tee. I use a steel shaft in my driving iron that is about 15 grams lighter than my 3 iron shaft to give me a similar feel but a bit more speed. I have a good history with my 3 iron even thou it was not perfect but what club is perfect. I still miss my 3 iron from time to time. Great discussion!

Outstanding work. I'd love to see a video on shaft selection for Utility Irons based on swing speed

Appreciate the insight into what’s shafts work well

Excellent guys. Thank you

Another gem. I actually replaced my Srixon 765 4 iron with a u65 23* just to give me some better gapping between my 5 iron and hybrid. It's so much easier to launch.

Good video guys. Didn’t expect that big a jump in bs

Great stuff. I will still to a hybrid just for the sound it makes.

You answered my question at 14:30 mark! I'm that slower guy who needs speed above 7i....I'll build a newer set with xforged UT in the 4-6 and 2018 xforged 7-pw......the most informative golf site on KZfaq easily! Continued success Ian and Matty(my fellow lefty)

Another gem..!

I have the Taylor Made P790 UDI and love it.Fitted with KBS Tour Hybrid Proto shaft.Excellent off the tee and really good off the fairway. I use it for those second shots on a par five when there is not a lot of room and I'm not confident with three wood. This is much more controllable

Love the edition of mine when using from the tee. Can hit it high or low and I need that where I play. It can get windy

I use an m2 4iron with a 40” ust recoil shaft. I recently saw that Rockies Fowler plays a similar club, a game improvement iron with a fairway wood shaft.

Another great video 👍🏽👍🏽 End 2017 I bought the Srixon ZU65 2 iron and this one is so easy to hit from the deck and off the tee. Because the Miazaki shaft gives a higher flight i also bought several months later the Taylormade 790 UDI 2 iron with hazardus shaft. Much lower and more penetrating flight. Also have a Wilson staff V4 tour utility 3 iron instead of the 3 iron from my Wilson tour V6 set of irons . Never thought playing an 2 iron from the deck and off the tee. For me those kind of irons are better than a hybrid, because for me hybrids tend to go too high and have the tendency to go left (right handed player). But as always everybody has to check themselves what workes best for their play. Keep those video’s coming 😃

Could you do a vid on driving iron VS hybrid from various lies (rough, wet lie) to see how they compare throughout a round of playing and not just as an option from the tee?

Great video guys. I'm curious how well the utility/driving irons play out of the rough. Thanks

Great test this is what I'm thinking 4 iron v 4 driving iron , helped my curiosity

It really is amazing how much these can help. I really think the term "driving iron" is a disservice to the category because they help long iron play from everywhere not just the tee. Just have to get the right shaft/loft combo.

I’ve found that the UT versions feel SUPER heavy - but I’ve only tried them with steel shafts. I can’t wait to give a graphite shaft a try with an MP-18 MMC Fli Hi

Great topic, though would be interested to cover more similar heads, such as the Taylormade P790 3 iron vs the UDI, or the Callaway X-Forged 3 Iron vs a similarly lofted X-Forged UT. Be interested what differences there are there, especially the P790, being viewed as a hotter "players" iron.

Every time I think of a theory I'd like to see explored and search youtube sure enough you guys come up! Great stuff! However, there are two things I'd like to see you do differently if you re-try this concept. 1. Identical Graphite shaft for each club 2. Instead of your set 3 iron (Forged head) what if you use a player forgiveness style head? I saw Rickie Fowler had a singe F9 iron head in his bag he uses for this instead of Cobra's Utility iron. Which if you go and customize on their website is about half the price of the utility even with a graphite shaft of your choice installed.

Just ordered a clearance Dunlop 4 driving iron. Comes with a true temper dynamic gold shaft and a golf pride multi compound grip for £11 so well worth it for giving it a try. The course I play at is just too narrow on most holes for a driver

I recently went for a driving iron, likes the p790 but was told I shouldn’t even consider a graphite shaft as I have very high ball flights with irons so basically got told that I shouldn’t consider a graphite shaft as it would only worsen it. This was from 2-3 different fitters. Think your channel has shown me more than anything that although being fitted is a good thing on the whole there is a big danger of being fitted badly. Especially when you don’t have a huge amount of options on places to go. I would say all of my clubs I have been fitted for have put me into a worse place fitting wise than my old clubs that I’d had from a teenager.

When I was fitted for my irons, Srixon Z765s I had trouble with the #4 iron in the set, but the #4 Utility, Srixon U65, was chalk and cheese with a half inch longer graphite shaft...

Hi Ian and Matt. I use a Srixon Z u65 driving iron. Bought it with a x100 steelshaft in and couldn't hit it. Recently got it fitted with an 95g xstiff graphiteshaft and now it is unreal. Can't believe the difference! Keep up the good work guys. Love your channel. Ps when you coming to sunny Cape Town South Africa?

I have the Zu85 3/20 degree, with a stiff ns pro 950gh. Fits my gap from 3 wood to 4 iron, and matches my 585 irons. When struck flush, you feel nothing 🙌🏼

I’ve used driving irons for years now. Used to play Callaway x utility prototype 3 and 4 iron replacements but switched to p790 in the 3 and 4 iron. These style irons are easier to launch and more forgiving from off centre hits.

Would be interesting to see a review of True Temper DG AMT. I like the idea of lighter shaft in the longer iron and heavier shaft in the wedges.

Nice job experimenting. Although I would love to see how they would compare if the 3 iron had the same shaft and same length as the driving iron. As mentioned the 3 iron had much heavier and shorter shaft, so the clubhead speed must have been lower and could be a big factor for the difference in ball speed.

I tried P790 UDI 2 iron with HZRDUS shaft, but just couldn't make it work, so bought P790 3 iron with KBS Tour shaft to match my set and love it.

Excellent video! Questions 1. What is the desired gap between the 4 iron and UDI? 2. What is the desired gap between the UDI and 3 wood? 3. What if Matty had a comparable shaft in the 3 iron?

wow that swing is special

Hey guys I came back to this video; like all your content, so much good information. Ian, how hard is it to swap out an iron shaft with a hybrid shaft in a driving iron?

p790 udi and gapr lo are for much better players. I tried both out in golfbox. Standard shafts in both. Could not get into either as sweet spot was too small for me. I have recently purchased a Callaway Rogue Pro 3 iron with project x 6.0 rifle steel shaft. This matches my set and feels as easy to hit as any other of my irons. 195m meters off the tee and also excellent off the fairways. Driving iron soughted. I am now looking for a 17 Deg No. 2 Hybrid that will send it out 210 m . Happy days.. Great vid guys. Thanks ...My Driver swing speed 100 mph and hcap 6.

Damn, 30g lighter shaft in utility iron? Wow, wasn’t expecting that.

Recently bought Tailor-made hybrid, cant believe how much easier it is to put in the air and go miles compared to my irons.

i saw a lot of value in this. i love my 4 iron its my go to club but i have a really hard time hitting a hybrid for whatever reason. I have been very curious about a driving iron. this helped.

Excellent as always guys. I uses a utility iron my self love it.

Would love to see a GAPR LO comparison to Matt’s driving iron

With the options today in comparison to mid-80s there is no longer an issue if you can play an 3-iron or not. Loftwise today is a difference as well. How many could play an 1-iron which maybe had the same loft as an 3-iron today? Could play with 3-iron back High School days 30 something years back but enjoyed my 4-iron more. Today ... hmmm ... a bit wee wind well then I remove my 4wood and 23 degree hybrid and take the 18 degree hybrid and 24 degree iron... Great video. Not to mention cost due to "I can afford this ... over ... wow a 3-iron is included in the price".

Great video! Would love to see Matt (and Ian!) "play" Pebble Beach sometime. Maybe a more relaxed video, to break up all the intense testing?

After struggling to look at and get used to a TM M1 17 degree hybrid I've definitely gone the driving iron route. Granted, I'm someone that could strike a 3 iron fairly consistently as well if I had to. It's funny how I can play the "harder" club but the hybrid continues to elude me.

My longest iron is a 4 and the next club down is a 3 hybrid which I’ve never been crazy about. I feel more accurate with my irons and want to try a driving iron purely for the extra distance

Another worthwhile and very interesting test as they all are. As Matt plays the Srixon irons I would have thought he would have used the Srixon driving iron which apparently is very popular with the tour players. It would be very interesting to see the difference of the irons from 5 upwards. Is Matt still going to be fitted for the Srixon Z785 driver ?

Ian you nailed it. I had never considered using a utility until I moved to Texas. Keeping the ball under the wind and getting the roll out is a huge advantage. What loft is Matt playing the utility at?

Great video, just one question: If I want to use a hybrid shaft in my Driving Iron, do you prefer sanding the .370 Hybrid Shaft down to .355 or drilling the .355 hosel of my Iron to .370?

Off topic, but do you guys think the Callaway Rogue Draw driver would help me? I have a gc2 for personal use. I swing about 100-105 mph and get 148-153 ball speed. I hit up and get about 14* launch. My usual shape is a high push or push draw with everything from 3W down. However, Driver starts right and goes more right. I just can't seem to get the clubhead to catch up. Even middled shots go too far right because I have to feel a big flip to get the head to catch up then I hook it (different from all my other clubs). I want my normal swing and not feel the clubhead lag behind. Ideally, I'd like to continue to swing out to the right but get a little more draw spin measured by gc2. I don't really want to draw driver per se, I'd actually prefer a nice little push ball where I can aim down the lefthand side and the ball just goes down the middle. Do you think this driver could achieve that?

FINALLY👍

I use a ctaper lite in mine...feels like steel but not so heavy in the longer iron

Looking into these utility irons, specifically the Callaway X forged UT 3/21°. Based on what you guys are saying... graphite shaft would be ideal over steel? Would graphite get better distance over steel?

I have an old Callaway 14 degree hybrid. Hits bullets, but I don't carry it often.

I currently carry a p790 udi with a black hzrdus shaft at my home course. If I wanted to carry a hybrid for when I play different courses, should I get the same style of shaft in the hybrid as my udi

I play LZ 6.0 in my ap2's up to 4i. Bought garp low with stock kbs x85. Too light. Very inconsistent. Is there a wieght you would recommend or shaft in general? Good morning by the way from Dallas Texas. Couldn't sleep after the debockle in LA

Would be interested in seeing difference of a driving iron head vs. A more game improvement or sgi iron head shafted same way. Often the GI iron is much cheaper but has more help so would be curious if that is a cheaper option for people to get same help without going hybrid

@txg I’m scratch player playing 2-4 MP20 hmb (5-pw in mb) and am going back to a four wedge setup. Thoughts on dropping 3i vs dropping 2i?

Still got 690mb 2i as backup which still looks amazing in bag however would only consider on windy links and when game is on song! Currently game 818h1 2 utility dialed down to 18o with t-mb 3i with Accra i100 at upper part of bag. Great combo in summer however as limited roll in uk at present thinking of swapping in 5wood for 3i & dialing up the 818h1 to 20o though concerned bunching up clubs with same yardages though different ball flights?

Hello watch all your videos. Saw couple months prior to this video you did a review on the srixon u85 at 20 degree and your callaway driving iron at 19.5 degree. Matt’s ball speed with the u85 is almost same as the 785 3 iron and so the callaway has 10 more miles ball speed and almost 20 more yards carry. Is the callaway that much faster with ball speed?

Hi Matt and Ian. Recently got a new set of iron. Srixon ZU85 3&4 irons. 5&6 in the 585. 785 from 7 to PW. All fitted with modus 105. Already owned the 2 iron with the recoil shaft. The set is unbelievable but tend to push the 2 iron a bit right compared to the rest. Do you think it could be the shaft? Was told the recoil plays similar to the modus 105? Gave up on hybrids because just keep hooking them. Have Titleist 816h2 set to fade but still. The U85s play straight for me. Also struggle with fairway woods and the 2 iron goes only slightly shorter than my 5 wood and much more accurate even with the right miss. Carry the 2 iron about 220 meters. Just wondering whether I should put a modus in there?

Curious with a pxg 0311x 2 iron head would you lean more towards a Tensei CK Pro White or Blue profile? Looking in the 90-100 TX just curious if the head is more on the higher or lower launch side for driving iron?

I need a utility 7 iron, most companies make 2 thru 6 iron, they're missing out on sales.

Would be interesting to see what graphite in the 3 iron might do to change performance.. is that often considered in fittings?

Hi Ian and Matt from the uk, I have the callaway apex ut 2 iron (older model than matts) with a heavy steel shaft, is it possible to swap this shaft out with a graphite shaft? I have asked a fitter here in the uk and he says callaway made a head for a steel shaft and one for a graphite and therefore the head would be too heavy to fit a graphite shaft. Is this true?

Would you recommend the Graphite Design Tour AD Driving Iron shaft? Or Graphite Design Tour AD DI Hybrid shaft with either a bored out hosel or (slightly) shaved down tip? Is there really a difference between the shafts?

I sure wish KZfaq would allow me to give this unlimited thumbs up! I have the Srixon 765-565 combo set. As much as i like the 4 and 5 in the 565 i was thinking about getting a Utility to match up with them. Thinking about the U85 in 20° loft. Just have to figure out what shaft to get

Question. I bought a taylormade p790 2 udi. It came with the 6.5 hazardous black, I couldn't find the middle of the club face ever. So I switched it out with kbs C taper 130X now It is a game changer. I swing the 2 iron 105 to 109mph but only carry it 250 off the turf. Does that seem like that iron shaft fits for me? Or am I leaving things on the table. Also do you find a strike pattern difference between graphite and steel?

I would like to see how a driving iron compares to a game improvement long iron.

Fantastic video. For a person with around 100 mph swing speed is a driving iron a good option in your option. Not as accurate with my hybrids as I would like to be, but how do these perform out of the rough.

Curious to see the gap between the driving iron and the 4 iron in the bag. Do you choke up on the driving iron to fill that gap?

Could you pls review the Miuras mc 501?

I am looking to get a utility iron to match with my set of callaway xr’s 5-sw but most utility 4 iron lofts seem to be the same as my 5 iron. What would you recommend to go for?

Great video! Is the Callaway uti shaft tipped - how much? Also, what’s the length of the driving iron shaft & what the swing weight?

How do the AMT shafts from Dynamic Gold rate in your opinion given the 3-iron shaft should be a lot lighter than Matt’s set? Even if he sticks with the driving iron, would his 4,5 and 6 irons play better?

Do you think the p790 3i would give similar results to Matt's utility, or closer to the set 3i? I've been going back and forth on the p790 3i with my modus 120X or getting like a GAPR Lo, etc and put in graphite. The p790 gives good results but I would like a few more yards out of it. As always men, solid video.