I knew this would be a thing when I got into GA in 89. At that time crop dusters were trying big block Chevy race motors because they were cheaper than the round motors. The gearboxes however were being driving from the front of the crank which was not able to handle the load. Turning the auto engine around was the obvious solution. Although the crop dusters in our area all went turbine instead. I'm not surprised this package has been reliable given the engine speed and lack of reduction gearbox. I don't have much gearbox experience, but I do have experience with the gearboxes on every airplane that had them. 3500 is loafing for a race bottom end. You could even go real light on the valve springs and cam timing to make a racing valve train bullet proof. Nice installation, great airplane.
@ExaltedDuck3 жыл бұрын
I like his attitude about overhaul time. Think about how they're run on the road. If your car averages 30-40 mph (pretty typical for cars once all idle/city/highway time is lumped together) and you change oil every 5000 miles, that's about 125-165 operational hours between oil changes and if the engine lasts 200,000 miles, that's around 5000-7000 hours MTBO. So assuming the duty cycle isn't much higher (direct drive and cammed for towing torque, getting 4-5 gph at a steady 2000-2200 rpm seems reasonable, and is like crusing in overdrive for all the engine cares), I could see that thing lasting a good long time. I would probably want fuel injection and a modest turbo, too, though.
@TestECull3 жыл бұрын
Fuel injection, sure. Automotive carbs don't work upsidedown. But turbos? Pfft nah. No need for a snail. Would invest in an all-angle dry sump oiling system too. Aircraft can fly upside down(and WILL fly upside down if I'm at the controls) so making sure the engine doesn't go bang when upsidedown is important. I'd be half tempted to try this with a ford 300 since they're already pretty much cammed for it(The one in my F150 turns 1750RPM at 75MPH and loves it!) and would need minimal modification for air use, but those things are FUCKING HEAVY.
@ericsantiago2746 Жыл бұрын
I thought you didgreat for a man that never flew that kind of plane. I cant wait to learn how to fly.
@kencohagen49675 жыл бұрын
The end result was awesome! Good job!
@brettgerber7954 жыл бұрын
Cool video. I also had an O-235 in my Long Ez that I built. Almost went to an LS while I was building my Velocity but came across a good O-360 at a decent price.
@barking.dog.productions17774 жыл бұрын
2016 video. I would like to see a smaller, lighter modern V-8 or V-6 installation with 300 HP and fuel injection now...
@TXLorenzo3 жыл бұрын
A hot v6 would be awesome .
@deborahchesser73754 жыл бұрын
I bet it sounds great with those aircraft zoomies
@nemo2274 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see & hear it fly by in a high speed pass.
@eknuds19 күн бұрын
With an aftermarket aluminum block the long block is 300 pounds. Maybe a little less. Plus they can go up to 350CI+.
@TheDirtflyer4 жыл бұрын
Affordable auto Engine. Good choice, simlicity is the key. You have direct drive, Props efficiency top off at @ 2600 RPM, Whats your Max engine RPM? Two barrel carb. makes sense.
@Chief60674 жыл бұрын
Would’ve loved to see it in flight after all that talk
@akbarshoed2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this.
@BrianReno-qy9wk4 ай бұрын
His engine weighs 398 pounds with the starter and alternator and cooling that's a good job keeping weight down and 270hp
@robertholmes13663 жыл бұрын
Is the propeller connected straight to the v8 like a drive shaft or is there a enlarged gear ?
@chippyjohn1 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of the ancient V8, but at least he is smart enough to recognise liquid cooling. The aviation industry is so far behind.
@AlanMydland-fq2vsАй бұрын
love the ole v8 s simple and good
@siroccowind7365 жыл бұрын
This engine is direct drive, no reduction system? That's good from a reliability standpoint, but 3500 rpm is really pushing it for propeller tip speed. I guess with the propeller blade length that tip speed can be computed. Use shorter blades and more of them. Those Reno formula one racers turn those O-200's even faster, so he must be under supersonic speed at his blade tips.
@marcelodacosta80905 жыл бұрын
I will drop off the pt6 from my 152 tomorrow to install that V8 !!!!!!
@ohwell27904 жыл бұрын
There is no STC to put a PT6 turbo prop on a Cessna 152, try again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And who would want to anyway?
@justins.12834 жыл бұрын
I did training in a 152 and a 172 and really doubt that anyone has put a turboprop on one. Not that it can't be done but I'd like to see it done.
@MiguelChaGra2 жыл бұрын
I’m curious what airframe modifications were made to get passed the Vne of 190 Knotts??
@chet3louisiana5583 ай бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Exceeding stress levels is suicide.
@Cee64E5 жыл бұрын
165 miles on 4.2 gallons is 39.28 miles per gallon. My v6 pickup doesn't do that good. It also doesn't go 165mph. or.. run for more than an hour...
@DanielWilliams-oi4ss4 жыл бұрын
It also weighs likely double, is designed for a useful load of thousands of pounds, has a frontal area and coefficient drag that reflect its use. It has little to do with the engine, and lots to do with what the engine is inside of.
@patrickhorvath26844 жыл бұрын
4.2 gph ?? That is amazing ! Obviously the engine just loafing, not laboring like the Lycoming
@TestECull3 жыл бұрын
nice show and tell but when do we get to hear the engine speak for itself?
@Bruh-hs2vw2 жыл бұрын
With those specs, I wonder how a Mercedes OM606 or Toyota 2JZ would fair.
@53glowe6 жыл бұрын
I would have thought the much heavier V8 install would have changed the aircraft's CoG considerably. Did you ask the owner that question?
@MatHelm5 жыл бұрын
150lbs diff...
@jennydiazvigneault55485 жыл бұрын
C of G difference???@@MatHelm
@christheother90885 жыл бұрын
I bet some stuff migrated to the nose.
@DanFrederiksen5 жыл бұрын
Even though a prius engine is not a performance demon, it's built to be efficient, running an atkinson cycle that's a little weaker than the normal otto cycle but efficiency as high as 35% instead of your normal V8 that might be 8% efficient. Such a 4 banger could make a LongEZ instead a range monster... and the speed might still be just short of 300km/h. Maybe 275. Imagine a longEZ going 15000km on a tank :)
@UncleKennysPlace5 жыл бұрын
35% to 8% efficiency? Nope. The Atkinson cycle of the type which is "faked" on the Prius and other engines is a function of camshaft timing, to mimic a longer expansion cycle versus the compression cycle. And note that airplane engines, unlike car engines, can be run at very stable speeds, allowing mixture to be adjusted for best economy; my little airplane got 16 mpg at 130 mph.
@DanFrederiksen5 жыл бұрын
So you are saying the WWII era engines in planes can't be more efficient?
@DanielWilliams-oi4ss5 жыл бұрын
While the mixture in your engine may be adjustable, so is the mixture on any modern fuel injected engine. Only it's done electronically. Also, if you think that auto engines can't be run at constant rpm, you are mistaken.
@UncleKennysPlace5 жыл бұрын
Not what I said; I said that airplane engines were DESIGNED to do so, over a very narrow operating range. This is not true of auto engines. I am, however, a fan of higher-speed geared engines, and some auto conversions (the Austro diesels, etc.) are working out beautifully.
@JonT11375 жыл бұрын
The thing about more range is why would you want to sit in that plane for more than 3 hours?
@663rainmaker5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Bird ....and some Swweeeet Ford! Some people have a few good ideas, but Ford's engines in the old V-8....289-302.... Built Ford Tough....then something happened with the mustang.... Old Crow Pilot Bud Anderson flew in to history... but did you know that he was working with Caroll Shelby on the new Ford Mustang... back in the early 60's... Bud Anderson built Ford's Mustangs into a rare Stang... only a few built in his garage... The Reno. Air Race i always wanted to attend.... Oshkosh fly in is on the bucket list too.. Aviation and Kid's...CYS is home for me...set your altimeter and check out the Wyoming Windsock at NOAA... I have seen some incredible Aviation History there... incredible History B-1 flyby.. Boeing 777 flight testing...touch and goes... rough landings and.. High Crosswinds... But what does a kid do... planes...trains and automobiles
@robertholmes13663 жыл бұрын
Boss
@rolandocrisostomo20034 жыл бұрын
I wonder what it would be like if it had a turbo Hayabusa engine.
@EatPezzzz3 жыл бұрын
It would be driven with a 4:1 gear box. I wouldn't want a turbo busa engine in my plane....
@AngryDuckSoup5 жыл бұрын
40 plus hp available with a 4bbl if your racing rpm is over 4,000
@ryoungatlmidotnet Жыл бұрын
Aluminum block and head. Billet stroker crank. Nice work, but not exactly a Crate Engine. Small block Fords are narrower than Small block Chevys, btw.
@justins.12834 жыл бұрын
I bet that man could do wonders with a GM LS aluminum engine in one of those. Would probably be lighter too.
@eknuds4 жыл бұрын
I have a Ford Small Block with an aftermarket aluminum block. Weighs about 300 for the long block, with intake and huge racing oil pan. I was thinking something like this would be great for that. With the larger bore from the aftermarket block it displaces 358 ci (5.8L).
@EatPezzzz5 жыл бұрын
This video would be so much easier to watch is I wasn't looking up this guy's nose everytime he spoke.
@MartinSage Жыл бұрын
I would have used a much lighter and smaller motorcycle engine that makes more hp per lb than that huge V8!
@superskullmaster4 жыл бұрын
The interviewer wanted to bait him to talk down about the engine so bad and he didn’t get it.
@ronarmstrong8356 жыл бұрын
Wonder how an EZ would fly with a 2 stroke marine V 8.
@g.zoltan3 жыл бұрын
Helicopter mode
@devilliers123 Жыл бұрын
I would try a Jaguar v12....🤔
@willjohnson2114 жыл бұрын
Ls swap that brother
@chrishale46234 жыл бұрын
That FRAM Oil Filter needs to go in the garbage and replace it with a NAPA GOLD. FRAM Oil Filters are one of the worst Filters in the industry. I saw an orange oil filter so I'm assuming it's a FRAM. Cool plane though.
@ExaltedDuck3 жыл бұрын
Napa has gone downhill so hard between hiring rude and inept retail staff and cheaping out on their formerly great store brand items that I just don't go there anymore. I miss Kragen but tolerate o'Reilly. And if you want a quality filter, look for Wix.
@benedicto.050 Жыл бұрын
Do you sell napa gold filters?🤣
@davidwheatcroft27975 жыл бұрын
Don't like canards. A bit lower fuel consumption, but NODDY problems and degrading of the the canard can get you diving into the ground as you haul hard on the stick, wishing you were not flying a canard. John Denver showed how it is done - "Lets guess how much gas in this new plane I just bought. Maybe enough; maybe not. Don't bother learning fuel tank switch." Fuck around and flying will kill you. The choice is yours.
@myotherusername92245 жыл бұрын
what are "NODDY problems" ?
@samueltibbs49435 жыл бұрын
Y Knot, NODDY = No Double Dare You.
@longez3605 жыл бұрын
Bugle oil.
@EatPezzzz3 жыл бұрын
John Denver ran out of gas. It had nothing to do with the canard....
@josephc.95202 жыл бұрын
You do realize why a speed brake is installed on a long right? It has like a 3 degree descent rate idlimg, that's not nose into the ground by my standards
@daytonasixty-eight13546 жыл бұрын
This dude clearly doesn't understand how aircraft engines are designed and how they work. They are designed like generators essentially to produce 100% of their horsepower all the time. Automobile engines cannot do that.
@andrespico96136 жыл бұрын
Well... he's an engineer and a pretty smart dude if you've met him... so I'm going to have to disagree with you there...
@UncleKennysPlace5 жыл бұрын
Yep. Just note the RPM he quotes for the horsepower rating. It will run forever at that. At at 1,000 hours, he says "no appreciable wear".
@DanielWilliams-oi4ss5 жыл бұрын
Aircraft engines are not designed to run at 100% horsepower. Throttle at cruise vs throttle on takeoff is completely different for most aircraft. Moreover, auto engines are built to closer tolerances, go through dramatically more testing, and are all around much more sophisticated machines than a standard air cooled carbureted aviation engine. Liquid cooling means that the engine operates at a much more uniform temperature across a variety of environments. Given that aircraft, by their nature, experience greater temperature differentials than automobiles, water cooling is potentially much more beneficial for aircraft than automobiles. As for an automobile engine being able to perform at a percentage of peak power for a given amount of time, this would depend very much on the engine in question and its implementation. The engine failures in modern high performance engines at the limits are often the result of insufficient cooling, or a failure of the cooling system itself (e.g. a hose), which would be a consideration. However, stock engines can be abused quite a bit (and often are) without failing.
@loxahacefigaronald7245 жыл бұрын
Lycoming and Continental engines are so behind the time's and are OUTRAGEOUSLY over priced for 1950/60's technology. I'm building a small kit plane now a "Precision" it's a clone of a small RV, I have a Honda 1.5 litre FIT engine in it, such a simple design w/all the modern accessories, only trouble I'm having is the "knock sensor" and the "timing sensors" because of the computer. but Viking Aircraft engine's have all the replacement part's to correct the problem, plus I've decided to just cough up the cabbage and get those and a nice oil bath gear to gear reduction unit from them, they're not cheap but proven, after its all done I figured I saved enough by using that Engine to dam near pay for my plane.. about 6 month's to go, it should be ready, baring any other problems.
@daytonasixty-eight13545 жыл бұрын
1.5 liters isn't really enough displacement. You will be running at high fucking RPM to suck in the same amount of air as an real airplane engine. Have fun with that. 1950s/60s technology is not bad at all. Air-cooled and pushrod engine? Thanks, I like it simple.
@miltonmatthews2138 Жыл бұрын
Was that a direct prop mount? I am also an Engineer (Automotive) and I would never mount a prop directly on an automotive engine. There's not nearly enough support there for a rotating mass even if the blades are glass or carbon.