"length does matter... in a fight" 😂

Y'know this is probably one of the best vids I have ever been recomended by youtube. Also good job on your school! I wish you only the best of luck going forward.

I believe Fiore, and others, recommend carrying ones sword in the left hand if in a city. The logic is that to defend one would use the scabbard to bind an opponents weapon while drawing or binding then drawing the sword. It's still slower than a Japanese draw but if someone's weapon is bound up with the scab and one has a bit longer to draw their weapon

Another thing with the katana, as I understand it, is that they didn't fight from the bind as much as longsword. Katana deflects & redirects more that bind & wind. As such a katana doesn't need as big a guard.

Regarding the guard, bigger and thicker ones were available, tsuba of 10+cm one more common in the past this can also be seen in artwork. Also came in different designs what you did with the cross guard here could probably be done with those tsuba, on that topic crossguards were also used in Japan on some weapons. This is a misconception regarding blade length, before the edo period katana were longer and were in the "longsword" category, many swords bear the markings of suriage or ōsuriage meaning they were shortened, new laws cut down and regulated blade length.tachi and nodachi also went through this. Shorter length swords were defined as katateuchi, intended for one-handed use. Kenjutsu demonstrations I have seen appear to be applied edge-to-edge parry as the most common method. Katana actually have some spring, this is in thanks to utsuri(used to be common in the past more on this later), but also historical European swords were only kind of springy, just give a look that Adam Sarae's video a sword is shown flexing but not to the extent of a modern one where you can flex it to a 160 degrees doing that with a historical blade would break it. It also would have been less uniform throughout the blade. "String steel" is more modern thing, at best it was spring temper, but also longswords could be made with differentially Hardened and a laminated construction. In the same regard a katana could be made with a mono-steel construction. Historical katana could also take more abuse than what would be generally considered, more specifically kotō era swords, the problem comes with the later Shinto era swords. Where swordsmiths were really focusing on an oversized harmon not going through tampering called yaki modoshi or overly complex lamination. Here's some videos showing abusive testing and some other sources that debunk a lot of misconceptions regarding Japanese swords. kzfaq.infoKwpq3lvXBXQ?si=oygWsAQ1t0XKf7ah kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i9qZlrSf0p2cnoU.htmlsi=b2RjMB4kMuU4fLJX Neutron diffraction study on full-shape Japanese sword" The Investigation of Establishing Time of Zuku-Oshi and Kera-Oshi with Data of Iron Image of Buddha Making Age and Old Document "Kokon-Kajibiko" Ancient and historic steel in Japan, India and Europe, a non-invasive comparative study using thermal neutron diffraction, F.Grazzi et al, 2011. The Sword and the Crucible: A History of the Metallurgy of European Swords Up to the 16th Century, A. Williams, 2012 Some Aspects of the Metallurgy and Production of European Armor OCTOBER 18, 2016 Archaeometallurgical Investigation on Historical Sword-Making Techniques in Northern Italy Between the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Centuries, G.Tonelli et al, 2022 November 04, 2019 Japanese Swords "Mythbusting" - Part 1 La question du minerai de fer pour la période médiévale (IXe - XVIe siècle) Home-made steel: A week at Manabe Sumihira's zuku-oshi tatara Mineralogical Study of Iron Sand with Different Metallurgical Characteristic to Smelting with Use of Japanese Classic Iron-making Furnace “Tatara” Micromorphology, chemistry, and mineralogy of bog iron ores from Poland SOME THOUGHTS ON UTSURI Posted on 2013/08/22 January 27, 2019 Iron and Steel Technology in Japanese Arms & Armors - Part 3: Bladesmithing

Fiore actually has a "drawing from the scabbard" technique and a whole stance that imitates it. The issue with quick draw in the longsword is you should do it with the reverse edge, the sottani falso in Italian iirc. It's still not as fast as a katana, but the use of the false edge should be done more commonly because...you know, it's there, unlike on a katana.

Great video! Thank am currently an online student with Seki Sensei and an instructor in a different Ryuha in Kenjutsu/ Iaijutsu/ jujitsu. There are no hema schools old around me so I have used online sources to study Messers as much as I can. Anyhow, I love it when people can put ego aside and learn from other styles. I feel like it brings more to your personal training. Keep up the great work! And nice Akado sword. 😉

Great video!! Thanks for sharing your insights!!

thank you for this breakdown!

I used to do for fun kendo matches with some of the jsdf back when i was in japan, honestly your insight is so interesting i am much more interested in learning about hema and kenjutsu and battojutso after watching this video amazing job gents❤

this is a really good video. I like that you know both systems and explain the differences very well. You are a good teacher. (easy to understand)

Good video! I think one of the major point considering the handguard on Japanese (and east asian) swords is that discguards are favoured due to the actions with the flat of the blade that make use of the shinogi ridge to deflect blows. In that sense, a crossguard with rings might be beneficial but otherwise is not really great to have a plain cross guard using Japanese techniques, not to mention the ease of carry. However, I think a lot of the discussion based on the tsuba in sparring are biased: most HEMA gauntlet extend past the tsuba in a very bulky and unnatural way, resulting in a lot of hits whereas there should be no mass in real life. This is something to take into account and I think it is hardly ever noticed since we assume the medium is representative. Larger tsuba for sparring would be needed if we want an accurate proxy

With the way the katana is designed, theres techniques and body movements to help draw the blade out even faster, which can end the fight almost instantly before your opponet drew the blade. But also that the samurai would avoid as much as possible to get in binding with the katana. Seki Sensei has done show plenty of it and proved how fast a person fan draw an katana and slash. And he even showed his practical an reserve grip is aswell.

nice vid!

Another thing I've noticed is because the way the katana is wedged shape with no distal taper means it can hit anywhere on the blade where the longsword has a sweet spot for cuts so if you're hitting with the tip kendo style you have the same cutting reach as the longsword it's just that the longsword has a longer reach in the cut and the versitility of 2 edges

I think a point that doesn't get enough credit is that the Longsword and Uchigatana are both evolutions of previous sword designs: Arming Swords and Tachi, respectively. Arguably, the pronounced quillons of Medieval-style cross-guards might have initially developed as an incidental feature of Viking-age swords that were used alongside a shield; since such swords were rarely used to parry, they mostly made contact along their edges while throwing an attack. As shields became less central to defense (become narrower and small), European swordsmen continued to favor edge-centric plays that encouraged the use of the quillons. By contrast, the Samurai chiefly served as mounted archers, needing both hands free to use their Daikyu during most engagements. Without a shield, Samurai had to use their tachi to discourage an attacker, leading to a greater emphasis on blade-forward defenses. The disk-shaped tsuba (likely worn with kote/gauntlets), provided protection against sniping attacks to the hand (like a rondel dagger). Another thing to consider is that, because katana are usually curved and single-edged, a combatant usually wanted to keep that edge directed toward an adversary; displacing an enemy's weapon with the spine of your sword does just that, allowing a fighter to follow up with their attack without having to turn the blade. You actually see a similar development with the Holy Roman Messer, which features a nagel that extended protection over the back of the wielder's hand for similar reasons.

Not bad!

4:43 it takes two moves not necesarilly because is longer but because is straight. Any curved sword can do this in one move if either has a short enough bladeor curved enough blade.

Honestly the way katana works is really perfect if it was with fencing too. This is just my opinion not an expert. That's why fencing experts often share like 90% of Seki's idea. Like both of them is about technical more than just cutting. If anything if you try to cut people with a rapiers... Yep you are a nub... Its the same with Katana. He even said in "Why full cut is bad" video too. Because Katana is about optimal small cut and leave. A full cut will get it stuck 100%.

the game i played that featured both swords, the longsword was used like a hammer against armored knights

They’re swords. I’m not out here saying there isn’t substantial differences, but I am saying the differences can be negligible in many situations that matter. If you’re talking about the evolution of the way they fought and the “styles” they used, I would say that’s the difference that matters a lot more. A master of their weapon is a master with that weapon. The differences in that case don’t matter that much.

I am so glad we are putting all this "Best sword" nonsense of the centuries finally behind us. What really need to be discussed is who had the funnier names for things.

I ask this question to a lot of people and I ask you too: why compare a katana (short single edge curved blade) to a longsword (long double edged straight blade) instead of a type of cutlass or sabre which would have a similar blade profile thus a similar use?

I personally call the "push-pop" the "Stinger"

i think it might be more... "apples to apples"? to compare katanas to bastard swords than comparing them to longswords. Both in length and in the number of hands to wield it. Or maybe the arming sword if you want to compare everyday-carry weapons.

Would wearing mail gauntlets potentially have influenced the length of the quillons?

6:32 katana is also meant to be two hands. Normal katana would be much heavier due to bad steel

cool video, but why ate you looking over my right shoulder the whole time.

Good video - "quillion" there's another I in it

9:21 doing that with an ancient katana might result in it bending... so not really an option

U should teach Shadiversity in your school. I mean seriously that guy needs to take lessons.

Actually the tsuba is more for just incase. In Japanese sword fighting regardless of the Martial art we rarely even block with the katana. If we do it's to more knock the blade out of the way. And or use the spine of the blade to also block. We never use the edge of the blade to block. There is more dodging involved. A katana is used for speed. Most of the time someone will die at the draw of the sword. Using a katana isn't like how people use long swords. Example duels: with long swords you dray your swords and fight. Katana you stand with in striking distance and see who dies first. Yhe one how is slowest dies. Keep in mind there is katana without the tsuba. Cane sword I have a katana like that. And no you cannot use a katana like a long sword it's not made for that. Using a katana is c challenge to see who is faster and can out move and out smart someone. The tsuba is almost never used to block. And you are doing the quick draw wrong. If it's in your Hakama you pull the saya (scabbard) out a litte more, turn it side ways, as you draw your blade with your other hand push the saya back as you twist your hips. And you can draw it faster. Secondly if you have your katana in your Hakama the blade side should be facing up not down. If you are holding the katana you should draw the blade from the side or with the blade facing up. That way you draw and can automatically slash down if your blade is facing up. Or slash across. If you watch any Japanese sword fighting you will notice they rarely block with the blade if the do it's more to deflect the blade then really to block it.

Toyama Ryu?

I curious about something. Japanese people tend to be a few inches shorter then europeans. I think about three inches or so on average. Is it possible that katanas are proportionally similar in size to long swords when comparing the correct size for the user. We all buy swords off the shelf, but, historically except munitions grade, a lot of them where custom made for the owner. Many of the euporean sword masters like Silver advocated using swords that are the correct length for the user.I forget how he measured it but he did have an equation for determining the correct length. When I was in the SCA I could comfortably use a sword that is longer then my shorter friends. I don't know the difference in height if there was any historically. Granted I don't know much about Japanese swords and swordmanship. I assume we are complaining a style developed in the 1800 to one from the 1400s. I wonder what the Japanese where doing in the 1400s and now long their swords where.

Oh and you're holding the katana wrong. (1) loosen up your grip a little . Your right hand closest to the Tsuba (gard) should more be you thumb and your palm doing most of the holding along with the ring finger your other 3 finger should be loos. (2) left hand you pinky finger should be at the bottom. Keep in mind the bottom of the sword is for the control. Your right hand is for the power. You control the katana with your left hand.

In a fight😂