Lol um i just watched the video waiting to hear the solution and im very disappointed i didnt hear it thats the reason i kept watching i thought you will reveal it at the end haha joke is on me i guess haha

@@weriesblack1375 Sorry about that, it wasn't intended to be a joke or misleading. Right up front at 0:32 I did explicitly say: "I have found a solution that I'm 98% sure is gonna work and I'm not quite ready to share that. I need to do a little bit of work on it and I will make a dedicated video about the solution that I've found." I _tried_ to warn you. 😄 What I'll be using is a new product that has been largely unseen and I didn't want to clutter _that_ video up with 18 minutes of talking about what I'm not doing. 🙂 Hopefully have that out in the next couple of weeks depending on what the weather does here. 🙂

Haha all good i did hear that part for some reason i thought different haha im looking forward to seeing it 😁

Those headrest bags are made by OBR ADV Gear. obradvgear.com/ They generally make products designed for motorcycle and UTV riders, and I'm pretty sure they don't even offer these headrest bags for sale. The owner of the company has (or had) a Frontier and developed some prototypes, and he reached out and offered me a set (which also included a pouch I have on my sun visor). I shared them on the channel a couple years ago but it must not have spurred enough demand for them to put these into production, because I don't see them on their website. They are nicely made and I have found them useful. I imagine there must be similar headrest pouches available out there somewhere.

@@softroadingthewest Thanks. I went searching just now and found that a company makes molle panels for head rests. Then there are many bags that can be mounted. There was also a 'tactical' headrest panel. But it only came in OD Green and Brown. And lastly, I found one that mounts on the inside of the seat. I.e. in the space between the driver and passenger seat. That's pretty promising, too. I don't want anything on the back of the seat because it'll interfere with passengers' knees and the dog being able to move around. Thanks again for the reply.

Yes, I'll be sorta doing something along these lines, at least that's the plan. 😄

We do too. 🙂

I will be doing something along these lines. :-)

Oh I'm sure it would have been fine. I had consulted with Topo and already had a tube of Sikaflex at the ready (which is what they use), but leak fears weren't the only reason not to put them up on top. I opted not to have Topo install roof rails in the first place because I really wanted not to put anything up there and keep the whole thing as sleek and low-profile as possible; it would also be awkward and cumbersome to access the Maxtrax on the roof and put them away after use. I only started looking at the roof again when I discovered I couldn't put them on the driver side cargo door as I had originally planned. Fortunately, a solution has since emerged that will allow me to keep them off the roof after all. 🙂

Thats Matt's opinion. I've personally been in a position where if I'd had maxtrax I probably could have gotten out but instead I dug snow for an hour with an e tool until someone with a tow strap came along and pulled me out. I was stuck good.

While I'm not sure your attempt at youtube drama is overly appreciated, the basic answer is: "Everyone has their opinion, and opinions aren't facts." Why leave a tool at home that is easily deployed, fast, effective and multi-use?

Haha, it's funny you mentioned that, because that comment came up a few times on the original video and I actually shot a response to it for this video, but ultimately edited it out because it was not really a mounting suggestion per se and this video was already too long. But this is a fair question since such a well-known recovery guy has made that statement, so here are my thoughts: I like Matt. I watch his channel sometimes. I've met him, and we have mutual friends. But I disagree with Matt's Maxtrax message. To me, if a vehicle is unable to move forwards or backwards under it's own power without _some_ kind of intervention, it is stuck. That is undeniably THE definition of being stuck. If you're stuck and you are able to get yourself out with Maxtrax, then perhaps you may have also been able to get yourself out doing some digging with a shovel. But digging with a shovel *is a recovery method.* If your vehicle requires some kind of recovery effort in order to move, then I'm sorry, it *is* stuck. Clearly yes, it's not dramatically stuck like a rig rolled over off the road on a steep Utah mountainside, but if it won't move without _some_ kind of help, it is stuck. On the flip side, I would say that many towing/recovery customers you see stuck at Sand Hollow could have gotten themselves out without "making a call" if they'd had a pair of Maxtrax on board. Very often you see those people have attempted to get themselves out using their floor mats, sticks, or whatever else they could lay hands on. Maxtrax simply has taken that concept and perfected it, and anyone who watches Australian offroading has witnessed these boards recovering countless truly stuck vehicles in a wide variety of scenarios and terrain. Personally, I doubt that Matt _actually_ believes a vehicle recoverable with Maxtrax isn't really stuck. That sounds more like a clever sound bite repeated to rile up those dreaded "overlanders." Hapless tourists spinning the tires of their rental cars in beach or dunes sands - who could've easily been extracted with Maxtrax - are the bread & butter of recovery companies near beaches & dunes. Of course you would discourage ownership of a simple tool that would cut into an easy and profitable segment of your business. 😉

Oh gosh I can barely reach the awning as it is. 😆 I can deploy it, but I have to tote a stool around in order to stow it, and it's still an awkward reach putting it away. 😄

if he could get ones with tall enough feet, it would still be in the way when opening the topper to sleep. It seems like almost all of the solutions need more available space then he has to still be functional and compatible. Very curious what he chose to go with.

😄 I mean, had I saved all that and covered it in a single video about my actual Maxtrax mounting solution, the comments would've been along the lines of "18 minutes before he even gets to the point 😠" 😂 It made sense to me to separate these out because what I'll be using for the Maxtrax is a new product I'm excited to share, and I don't want to clutter that video up. But TBH these days KZfaq has become absolutely punishing if I don't get two videos per week released and this was a perfect topic for a bonus mid-week drop. 🙂 Good news, this Saturday's video will be a new adventure episode in a new area of Oregon. 🤙

Yes, and that is more or less the direction I'll be taking. 🙂

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😄 I mean, right up front at 0:32 I did say "I have found a solution that I'm 98% sure is gonna work and I'm not quite ready to share that. I need to do a little bit of work on it and I will make a dedicated video about the solution that I've found." I _tried_ to warn you. 😄

@@softroadingthewest you hired a full-time Sherpa to haul your gear behind you?

@@darrylk808 🤣🤣

Exactly! I should have emphasized that detail more, that was another reason I hoped not to put them on the roof. Thanks for watching!

There were many many many suggestions made which I didn't cover in this video...I had to limit it to the ideas that came up numerous times. As it is, I have at least one other commenter saying this video was way too long. 😆 Yes, a few people (perhaps you among them) suggested various adhesive solutions. In the first video, I did mention that worrying about leaks wasn't the only reason not to mount them on the roof of the camper. They would also just be really awkward to access, would potentially impact my gas mileage, and would be vulnerable to the low-hanging branches I frequently encounter here in the PNW. As far as using an adhesive solution, the camper roof is white because Topo wraps the black powder-coated aluminum with white vinyl to reflect sun and reduce heat accumulation. Any adhesive approach would only be as strong as the vinyl wrap's adhesive, so one would need to cut away the white vinyl wherever anything was going to be adhered. Which certainly isn't impossible but there were already multiple "cons" to being on the camper roof at all. 🙂

​@@softroadingthewest Oh ok after the first video to me it sounded like you really wanted them on your roof and I know for a fact this would have been the easiest and just as strong as any other mount you would use. low hanging branches wouldn't come close to bothering the tape. Curious to see where you mounted them.

It's a new and largely unseen product which I'll be using not _exactly_ as designed, so for the sake of the product developer, I really prefer to confirm I can make it work and I've got it dialed in before sharing it. Diving into all of that is just too complicated to add on to everything else in this video. If all goes well (and the weather holds) I'm hoping to tinker with it this weekend and possibly bring it to the channel next week. :-)

Which bits would you cut? I wanted to address the most common ideas that were each suggested by multiple viewers. I could've easily included at least 10 more ideas, but actually limited it to the most frequently repeated suggestions that came up over and over. The point here was to actually _discuss_ each idea, not just slam out a Top-15 list. Years of doing this has taught me that if I don't cover a certain minimum of detail, *many* viewers are simply unable to connect the dots and ask further questions, or tell me I'm wrong because I didn't point out this or that. Or I get complaints that I have glossed things over too quickly and should have gone into more depth. 😆 One thing is certain: it is absolutely impossible to please every viewer every time. I do apologize that your experience was unsatisfactory this time. A few strategies I use when a video I've clicked on feels too long to me: • Hover over the chapter links to see what all is going to be covered, and skip ahead to the bits that seem interesting • Set the playback speed to 1.5x or 2x speed • Watch something else 🙂

He said in the video that he actually can see out the rear and right rear camper windows while driving.

I assume you didn't actually watch the first video, in which I mentioned that worrying about leaks wasn't the only reason not to mount them on the roof of the camper. They would also just be really awkward to access, would potentially impact my gas mileage, and would be vulnerable to the low-hanging branches I frequently encounter here in the PNW. What's up with the tone? Anyone who regularly watches my channel (or takes 30 seconds to look at my rig) knows I am driven by budget and practicality. I'm a doofus who's way too old to worry about what anybody thinks or impressing people. If I was, I certainly wouldn't be driving around such an amateurishly DIY'd rig. 😆