Good info! I have an original in an 86 Kramer and was going nuts trying to tighten the arm down from the top.

Thank you SO much! That little piece that holds the arm (at about 2:15 ), all of a sudden became loose and I thought I had wrecked the whole damn thing. And I thought going to a guitar-shop to fix it, would cost a fortune. But you simply had to open the hatch on the back and tighten that screw? Ha! I did that and now it's good as new. Seriously: thanks :)

It would make more sense to put the nylon washers inside, and the metals washer (that rotate with the arm) outside. If reversed, the metal washers scratch on the floyd body. How could FR not come up with a good solution yet.. I cant understand. The old style looks better, it at least takes the friction and wear into account and makes these parts replaceable. Great video, thanks by the way.

Wow, thanks. I didn't even think of getting at that assembly from the back. Saved me a lot of hassle

One thing that helped me was cutting an old spring for a picking mounting ring and dropping it in the hole of the collar

Thanks mate!!! Very useful video for anyone who have a problem with arm! Like You said FR, Schaler (not under FR licence at this time) will be covered. Problem starting with...Floyd Rose Trem Licence is gone!!! Now all factories doing it WRONG!!!, producing FR style by them self with a weird effects. I have now guitar manufactured (UK) LINDO 7-strings (You can find it on KZfaq ass well) and body and neck is "ok" but when we coming to a Floyd parts...lots of problems! MEASUREMENT ARE WRONG!!!

Okay this video made me feel better,just got my $2,000 jackson n have this problem with the bridge thought it was going to be a big big problem

A threadlocker paste like Loctite would work much better than teflon tape, threadlockers are designed for that exact purpose. Teflon is actually a lubricant that is fibrous and formed into a flat tape designed to be wrapped around "pipe thread" (meaning tapered thread, not just the threads of a pipe) for the purpose of lubricating the thread, as pipe thread is tapered and designed to form a mechanical seal when screwed tight, unlike parallel machine threads that don't provide a seal. The teflon tape lubes the pipe thread to allow easier torquing for an even tighter connection thus a stronger mechanical seal which stays in that position. If the threads are turned, If there's any movement, over time the tape will tear apart and it'll look like white hair wrapped around your trem arm bushing. Loctite is invisible compared to the white teflon tape, plus it was designed for the purpose of preventing a threaded fastener from backing out or unscrewing itself loose. It comes in different strengths indicated by its color. The automotive service industry has been applying it to parts for decades as a redundancy or safety feature on fasteners that loosen from a vehicle's vibrations. Permatex Loctite, any AutoZone has small tubes for $4-$5. A drop or two is all you'll need.

Thanks this is what I was looking for. I didn't receive a bar with my used Ibanez and it's for a threaded bar, I prefer the sleeve and collar style because it feels silly spining the bar into the bridge and it's easier to adjust the resting position (sleeve/collar) of the bar.

Thank you. This my first Floyd Rose and tightening the bar with the alen wrench fix my problem.

Great tutorial. Well explained. Thanks for the help! And that Japanese EVH Wolfgang is as excellent as the US model. The only drawback is that the top is not figured for your picking arm.

I feel that the Press in Arm, is the only real fix for all of these issues.

I have a MIJ Wolfgang coming in a couple days. I’m so excited! My first Floyd guitar. I played a couple of new EVH Specials and a 5150 in my local shop today and got really nervous when the trem arm had so much play unless it was completely screwed down - which I don’t like. Since the case has that cutout, I’m thinking I’m gonna pick up one of those original arms. Great video!!

Thanks a lot! Was suspecting that there is some screw on the bottom of the Floyd that may come loose. I hope that my Ibanez multitool allen wrench will reach it as I come home to fix it.

thank you for posting... this is just what I needed

Thanks for the tip. I just received a new Jackson model and the tremolo arm bushing was loose. I was hoping I didn't have to remove the FR to fix this, but didn't know it was accessible from the back. All tight now and the bushing has not loosened again. I think a little blue Loc-Tite on that bushing screw might be a good idea if it happens again.

Yes the classic 84 arm. I found out later that the system really makes sense and is not as bulky underneath as the push in unit with its big nut creating clearancd problems with some guitars.

as long as I am not ripping the bridge out I am happy thanks!

Thanks for this, turns out I needed to tighten up that hex nut!

I have a Korean Hamer with a licensed Floyd that had the old style threaded arm. Perhaps the proper adjustment escaped me but when the friction was set right so the bar would stay in place while playing and swing out of the way with a flick of the finger, there was always some takeup as the spring washer compressed. That and having to screw the bar in and out. I bought the style with the regular threaded cap and, maybe I got a good one, the feel was much better. Perhaps I was lucky because I have another Floyd that has the annoying rattle.

great tips! Helped me get my new arm setup right

old school floyds need a locking nut on the back of the whammy bar pivot.....problem is the thread is some weird thread that doesn't seem to exist anywhere but on that nut? also i remove the bottom teflon washer to increase the grounding and get rid of the static sounds you can get when you move the bar back to it's hanging position when not in use, otherwise the bar really is not grounded to the guitar

Thanks for the vid. I'm spoiled by the Ibanez ZR series that doesn't have this problem, but my new Dean 7 string came with FR and this has been driving me crazy.

Just found out there is a newer version of the push in style. It uses an Allen bolt to put tension on the arm like a gotoh. There is a bushing inside that part the bar goes into and there is no play whatsoever.

It's been a while since I've used an Ibanez. A standard Floyd rose collar/arm does fit the original Edge (on some higher end models), but not most of the other Edges. I can't recall how (or if) you can tighten the holder.

I despise FR trems. They are loose like he's showing and when you tighten them down to keep them tight, they come loose again after just moving the arm once or twice. Hipshot is doing great things with trems.

ive got a floyd rose 1000 and for some reason the arm wont fit into the collar. it seems like it is angled wrong or something

So are the tolerances closer on the original Floyd rose? I didn't have a problem with a Hamer that I bought for $400. I just bought the JTV-89F for $1200 and I feel like a sucker since the trem is almost unusable for subtle vibrato. The noise of the rattle is actually audible through the amp. Very disappointed especially since I sold the Hamer before the 89-F arrived.

This really really helped thanks!

I suppose maybe I'm just lucky: I installed an Ibanez (licenced) Floyd Rose bridge on my Vester Maniac over 20 years ago, and haven't had any problems at all. After all these years, It works like new. (It was expensive - almost as much as the guitar back then - but time tells, it was certainly worth it)

Can you do a video on the Floyd rose 1984 reissue ? Is it possible to change the arm and its socket with a Floyd ?

I HAVE A BIG PROBLEM the whammy socket is loose but i cant access it from the bottom cause there is wood blocking it (jackson rrx24 pinkstripe)

Actually, the floyd on this guitar is a Korean-made "original" floyd. Not the real German-made one. You can tell by the bend in the base plate for the fine tuners and the fact that the trem arm has a longer tension adjusting collar (the part that you screw on the housing). The only issue I've ever had with these trems is the bar, the rest is quite well made. You can replace the housing with one from the original floyd, but you need to widen the hole in the base plate slightly to make it fit.

Thank you sir for the video.

I had one of the old style bars with the two washers on an old Kramer (OFR, made in Germany). It would stay tight for maybe ten minutes. Bought a new style Schaller bar and it just stays where you want it. No tape or anything. Could be mine is a lucky one because there's no play anywhere.

Hi , I also fixed my wobble by putting two small strips of electrical tape in the hole , no wobble at all , but I dont mind it being stiffer fixed in position

Hey, my Westone guitar has a mfg floyd rose license patent trem and I was wondering if the schaller floyd rose arm module would fit my shitty trem...? If not would it be better to just get a whole different arm that'd be able to fit the arm module properly? Orrr should I just upgrade the whole thing to the floyd rose 1000? I'm asking cause my guitar doesn't have the cavity for a normal original floyd rose. It's like a jazz master trem.

What i find hilarious and maybe even ironic is that the guy that designed that Wolfgang and is most known for the floyd rose preferred the trem arm floppy and loose. seriously EVH's trem arm would move about a inch before it even made the trem move! at least his Kramer 5150 guitar was set that way. several people that played it have told this.

Nice EVH Wolfgang. Is that the Made in Japan version?

Yeas i saw n the Jemsite how to replace the armholder with one from OFR style tremolo, but i don't want to, although it is an option. For now i managed to tighten it and it is fine for a 25 years old tremolo.

a question about the 80's floyd rose arm can you tighten it up so if you let go of the floyd rose arm while your playing it wont go hanging pointing towards the floor?

I could solve the "loose trem arm" problem for good. There's a "Turbo Trem" arm now offered by Floyd Rose. It has a 3 mm allen head at the end of the arm and can be used to change the strings, unlock the nut, etc etc. It's built right into the arm, so no looking for the allen wrench. So, you just make the receiving assembly with a 3mm square hole to receive the 3 mm allen head on the bar. Tighten down the screw and it become physically impossible for the bar to be loose. A spring could be added so that you can set the level of tension on the bar. Loose tremelo arm problem solved forever.

Thanks helped me out a lot

Great video man! Thx!

It may have gotten bent. A new arm/collar assembly should fix it.They're about 20 bucks, and not that hard to change.

I’m getting a Jackson Kelly JS32 soon how are the arms on it? I like to have mine in between loose and tight on my strat so I’m hoping I can have the same effect with the Jackson being as the Jackson will be my first guitar equipped with a Floyd Rose..

the trim arm on my Dean came loose guess I have to take off the back plate and try to tighten it

Thank you the video is very informative :-)

This is really helpfull although i don't have problems with that kind of armholder on my Jackson but if something goes wrong in future now i know what to do. I have a question tough. A have also an Ibanez with edge tremolo and the armholder is loose, i don't see how to tighten it without dismounting the tremolo. A video or an advise will be gladly appreciated!

Have you tried an original "push in arm" floyd rose, on an ibanez edge zero 2 trem? It's a screw in type too

Except on my charvel dk24 there's a wooden lip conveniently covering the hex nut with no allowable space to tighten, it's almost as if that lip shouldn't even be there lol I'm bout to just drill a hole directly above the hex nut the have it directly available

I don't have any experience with a real Floyd. Some engineer needs to step up to the plate and do a complete redesign. There has to be a way to adjust the swing tension without affecting the play in the arm.

I use the schaller floyd rose arm on my kramer jersey star.

Mine is the 1st issue, not the bar but the actual piece the bar goes into constantly becoming loose. I have tightened the allen screw but after normal use it becomes loose. Is there a way to prevent this from happening?

What size allen key please?

Help i have an tremlo 1000s and the whammy nut or holder got lose and the bar is really hard to get hold of ...do i need to change the whole floyd rose or can it be fixed.. thanks in advance

Yes, and it will never loosen up on you.

Tried the tape, and the pen spring trick, too. No matter what I do, that cap spins and loosens up. This guitar is otherwise nice to play [Charvel Pro Mod San Dimas], so it's kinda tragic.

I've got a Red Bishop MAGIK arm installed on my EVH ! No play! Check it out!

You'd think they can make a simple fucking arm after all these years.

Wiggle wiggle wiggle

Trem 'Oh' Lo....🤣

Good info, but please just say "trem" Not tre-mow-low. Treh-mah-low