If you could choose your piece of the Triforce, which one is it and why? (also which one would you choose for me lol)

Calling Spirit Tracks the "Hero of Trains" is like calling Wind Waker Link the "Hero of Boats." I vote that we all refer to him as the "Hero of Spirits"

THE HERO OF....TRAINS

8:55 it’s actually somewhat confirmed in game by the king of red lions in the 2nd quest when talking to jaboon in ancient hylian, and i quote “the one who i brought with me has no connection to the legendary one.” basically kinda setting in stone that hero of winds was just some random kid who had great courage.

Ya know... I didn't think of it till now but... The time line split also fits the try force holders. Fallen timeline. Ganondorf wins. Young timeline. Link stops Ganondorf in time and his hero. Old time line. Zelda fixed the kingdom(since she spirited away link)

It seems obvious to me that the downfall timeline is simply the original timeline, and that Zelda used the Ocarina to turn back time after Link's death to give him another chance, creating the adult timeline. If she was already prepared to do something that drastic just so Link could experience his full childhood, then surely she would do the same if the hero were to fail and Ganon to win.

I think the timeline split happened because Ganon originally won, leading to the Fallen Timeline. Zelda, seeing the devastation wrought by Ganon, decided to use her time powers to send a dream to her past self, which allowed past Zelda to be on the lookout for a boy in green. In the "Original" Fallen Timeline, Link found Zelda, but was unable to convince her in time that Ganon was evil and killed the Great Deku Tree since she never had her prophetic dreams from her future self. They escape the coup with the help of Impa and wage a great war against Ganon and his minions for some 7 years or so. They eventually come up with a plan for Link to acquire the Master Sword, so with the help of the other races, launch a siege against Castle Town, rush towards the Temple of Time, and open the doors. Link takes the Master Sword, opening the way to the Sacred Realm, but Ganon was one step ahead of them. He kills Link and makes his way into the Sacred Realm, and the rest is told in legend. This would also explain why Twinrova is still alive, because they don't end up dying in this war.

I think the reason Twinrova are alive in the fallen timeline is because Link went to fight Ganondorf as a kid, no seven year stasis, as soon as he unlocked the temple of time. Hence, no fight against Twinrova

7:18 no, Malon’s mom wrote Epona’s song and taught it to Malon. But I DO believe the hero of time ended up with her. Which makes me happy, because they were absolutely perfect for each other. I also think the Hero of Twilight’s father was a swordsman of some sort, like his great (or great great) grandfather and Rusl who takes Link under his wing (my theory is he was friends with Link’s father and they were in the guard or whatever together, which is why he looks after Link after his parents die)

You know, one thing I noticed during the adult timeline of Zelda's section is that all of the Zeldas play a more proactive role in their respective plots because their iteration of their ancestor became a ninja during the apocalypse

I have a rather unhinged idea about the timeline split in Ocarina of Time. The split itself occurs on three parts according to the individual wills of each Triforce piece holder, with each piece altering reality to do so, even to the degree of the Downfall Timeline paradoxically existing alongside the Adult and Child Timelines.

I’ve always had a theory as to why Link and Zelda in twilight princess already have their triforce pieces, and why the Triforce split up in the child timeline in the first place. I think that when Link returned to his own time at the end of OOT, his body had already been “chosen“ by the Triforce of courage, but just another timeline. So I think the Triforce in the child timeline sensed his presence and automatically hid itself within him, which then sent the other two pieces to their respective wielders as well. This is why Ganondorf, somehow, miraculously gained the Triforce of power when he was about to be executed. The try force of courage was then passed down through Link’s descendants.

If I remember how the triforce on the first game was originally supposed to be memory chips or something similar and link came from a different world, some people think that he is someone from our world who was transported to that world. But that original idea was scrapped, I think it was because it was hard to convey the idea of those chips instead of something more ideal like a triforce.

Spirit Tracks Zelda isn’t actually a childhood friend of Link, she just needed to get to the Tower of Spirits and Link was the perfect one (and only one) to ask. In fact, Alfonzo is closer to a childhood friend than Link, at least at the beginning due to his past as a knight in service of the royal family

I've often wondered if the three timelines might match to each of the three triforces. Each timeline matching to which one was most prominent in resolving the situation in Ocarina of Time: Link's adventure, Zelda's Politicking, or Ganondorf's coup.

About the hero of winds, the spirit of the hero is not passed down through blood relation it’s literally just fate. The kid has the spirit of the hero, he wouldn’t be able to wield the master sword otherwise. But, the shard being shattered is probably still symbolism of the kid awakening that spirit that was within him, as maybe it was laying dormant inside him before that

Ocarina of Time Zelda seems to be the living embodiment of "one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it".

So my theory on Ganon. The triforce pieces all can transform the wielder into a beast imbued with the power of the respective piece when they're on the verge of death, or great stress. Ganon turns into a massive boar, one of the most dangerous and powerful animals. Courage transforms into a courageous beast like you said. In this case, a wolf. It's not known what wisdom would transform into. Perhaps an owl or something. But Kaepora Gaepora? Rauru had the whole triforce at the time did he not? What's not to say he'd utilize it to guide link? Or perhaps changes their identity entirely? Shiek for example, or since Ganon had all 3 pieces in ALttP, Agahnim.

The hero with no title is the humble son of a sheppard, banditboy. Life has many swords, in his case, four

7:14 my guess is in TP Link's mother died giving birth to him and then his dad died when Link was young say around 6-8. Instead of being sent to an orphanage the people of Ordon all look after Link and makes sure he's eating bathing etc while he works as a rancher.

RE4 remake was the first major 2023 release for me, next is Totk. Can’t wait to see the gameplay tomorrow. Was also playing Skyward Sword earlier and just got the Hylian shield.

i think the defeated timeline is incorrectly interpreted if that makes sense. it wasnt that link was killed necessarily. just defeated at the climatic battle. he could still have been alive just not capable of fully killing off ganondorf/ganon. thus the sages had to step in and seal him away. but that is just my take on that jumbled mess of a branch

Malodus and/or Majora could be entirely separate from Demise and his curse. Demise is the Demon King, not the only demon. Also, there's no Hylia blood princess in Majora's mask, which was a key part of Demise's curse "An incarnation of my hatred shall forever haunt the spirit of the hero AND the blood of the goddess" or something like that. I think Majora is a completely separate demonic entity, perhaps not as powerful as Demise but relatively very powerful for a Demon, and much more direct.

Also I could see where in LOZ lore when Link doesn't specfically have someone looking after him the village looks after him. Takes a village to raise a child etc.

Big video. Loved it! I needed a video like this!

I would like to propose the title "Hero of Walls". Or possibly "Hero of Merge", even though that sounds like the title for the hero of a mobile puzzle game.

The Tri-Force won't split if you stick it together from its pieces. That's because you might not have balance, but you earned it, you forced it to happen by imposing your piece over the other two.

The Hero is defeated timeline is the original child timeline from OOT imo. The new child timeline is where you were sent back before meeting Zelda. The fallen timeline is the original child timeline where Link would be in stasis after pulling the Master Sword. There is no Link there now and the last confrontation with Ganondorf was outside the castle where you lose.

Wow a big video! This is such s treat :) Thank u lord bandit :)

HAPPY RAMADAN BANDIT! :] and in terms of Triforce, you’d be wisdom since you teach us the lore of the land. As for me, I personally want Wisdom too. If That Triforce means I get inspired for inventions to help people and have fun, sounds good to me! And personally I’d love to see what another person besides Ganon does with the Triforce of Power because the Gerudo King always loses. I’d love for a Zelda game where the heroes have power and courage, and the villain has wisdom!

Maybe in the adult timeline the spirit of the hero could work differently too? Like the triforce of courage was shattered, so maybe that had an effect on links spirit, also causing it to shatter. Links spirit could have been placed separately in whoever’s potential to overcome their obstacles was the greatest, thus having a greater outcome of success in this timeline

I like to imagine Winds was blessed by the spirit of courage when he soloed the forsaken fortress just to rescue his sister. So while not having a blood relation, the triforce looked at him and went "what the hell is that kid doing? Oh damn, we should help him out."

I would argue the hero of winds DID have the spirit of the hero, but that because of how long it had been since the spirit of the hero had a physical incarnation he had to prove himself worthy of the power of the triforce of courage. I don’t think he is descended from any other Links or anything, I just think the way he demonstrates unshakeable courage is like the sign that he does have the spirit within him.

I'm so glad that in tears of the kingdom we did actually end up getting an explanation of the calamity and ganon's powers usd during it /s

I notice that nobody really mentions that ganon exists not just because of demise, but because groose was there. And that's incredibly sad because they all made up at the end of skyward sword and became friends.

2:34 Hero of The Sky 3:52 Hero of The Minish 4:28 Hero of The Four Sword 5:00 Hero of Time 6:20 Hero of Twilight 7:21 Hero of Light 7:56 Hero of Winds 9:56 Hero of Spirits 11:43 Hero of Legend 13:09 New Hero of Hyrule 14:05 Hero of Hyrule 15:09 Hero of The Wild

this is exactly the video i needed right before the totk presentation in an hour, thank you bandit

I watched this in one sitting while goofing off on a video game. Great vid. Amazingly accurate. Balance is fairly struck between too much info and not enough (or boring, wordy analysis versus shallow, meaningless crap. you found the tightrope between these and walked it like a boss). I've been subbed for literal years, but I put a thumbs-up on this video (which i rarely do) EXCLUSIVELY because of the tiny tiny detail all the way at the end. THAT. that was priceless. I literally laughed hard at that bit.

Hi Mr Bandit. I just wanted you to know that I think that you are the best Zelda KZfaqr out there. I get up every morning and check my phone to see if you’ve posted any new videos. Keep doing what you’re doing. Peace out😊😊

Like these compiled versions, quite convenient Also gives me an excuse to re-watch and listen to your suave narration

I recently heard someone talk about all the other npcs reincarnating and that's got me wondering a bunch, but like Beedle.

I think the idea of “the spirit of the hero” completely accounts for an unconnected lineage of heroes. Sometimes they are descended, but that in no way is a prerequisite of possessing the spirit of the hero. The only character with a prerequisite of lineage is Zelda who will always possess “the blood of the goddess”. Wind Waker Link is not all that unique in that aspect. I think like half of the Link’s are ultimately just random kids who possess the hero’s spirit.

Regarding the Hero of Winds and his connection to the spirit of the hero, Hyrule Historia and the Zelda Encyclopedia both say that every Link contains the spirit of the hero, so this would obviously include the Hero of Winds. And moving on to my own speculation: I think it's meant to be that the Hero of Winds isn't related to the Hero of Time by blood. In the King's conversation with Jabun, it's explicably said they were searching for someone related to the Hero of Time, if not the Hero of Time himself, and the King says that TWW Link "has no connection" to the Hero of Time. "No connection" can obviously be taken to mean he doesn't contain the spirit of the hero, but it can also simply mean he's not related to the Hero of Time by blood. And I doubt either the King nor Jabun would be able to tell whether or not Link is reincarnated from the Hero of Time, and it's not even made clear if they know that Link usually reincarnates. Ganondorf also said he believes the Hero of Winds to be "the Hero of Time, reborn" but this could simply be metaphorical. The Tower of the Gods and its purpose to test a new hero is also often cited as evidence, but other Links have had to go through similar challenges, such as the Links in A Link to the Past and A Link Between Worlds needing the Pendants of Virtue in order to prove themselves worthy of wielding the Master Sword. Also, you say ST Link lends to the theory, but I'd argue the opposite, and that his existence serves as proof that the spirit of the hero still exists in the Adult Timeline. tl;dr I believe the Hero of Winds holds the spirit of the hero and is a reincarnation like the other Links, however he's explicably not related to any previous Link by blood. 47:55 Also, I'm pretty sure it's safe to say the manual for A Link to the Past has been retconned. Hyrule Historia implies, like you said, that he extracted the Triforce of Wisdom from Zelda after defeating Link

Bandit! Great video. BUT have you seen the monthly magazine of Nintendo?? He confirmed that Ganondorf's mummy ears are a damn important detail that they did on purpose! Your theory about his ears turned out to be Nobel Prize winning! 😂 You should take it back now to make a new video with new updated hypotheses! 🤩 Sorry for bad english I'm italian but I love your videos

Neat. Thanks homie. Love the channel

When you have the confidence to name something "The Legend of..." means you're not playing games, right out of the gate. That Shigeru Miyamoto based this game off of what I was already doing as a child in the woods on imaginary adventures, makes it all the more magical to me in hindsight. 🗡△

If there was a Hero before the hero of the sky, that means there were 13. Also there were 2 Zelda in breath of the wild since there was a Queen Zelda and Princess Zelda, and let's not forget the the timeline split that no one talks about in skyward sword.

Awesome Video Bro!

My headcanon for OOT ganondorf is that he originally wanted/ intended to work together with the king of Hyrule but along the way got corrupted and developed a thirst for power.

I know I said this on the original but I like to bring up the idea for Twilight Zelda that she could just not be of age to 'officially' take the title of Queen (like in Frozen where Elsa had to wait 3 years after her parents dying before being allowed to take the title/full responsibilities).

The main theme of spirit tracks, it's so good. I remember just sitting listening to it on my ds.

Spoiler warning for totk It would be really funny to continue Zelda's story like "then she traveled back in time and became a dragon

Big boyo video! I love these videos to listen and watch while I go about my day ☺️ Granted, if I'm too busy doing whatever the heck, I end up rewatching the videos because I don't want to miss any thing. Anyways, time to press play!

Skyward sword link is the original hero. In the entire game he tempers his spirit before it’s cursed

Putting Link's Awakening before the Oracle games makes Link's Awakening less selfish. Having Link's Awakening after the Oracles means that the only person helped by destroying the demiplane of Koholint Island and killing everyone in it is Link. Moving it before the Oracles means that everything Link did in the Oracles is now dependent on Link being Koholint Island's annihilator. The deaths of Marin and everyone she's ever known are no longer without purpose.

6:50 Rusl had been training him. I believe he mentions it after giving him the wooden sword.

I believe the third Link is the Hero of Light. In Minish Cap, he restored the blade to it’s true power which allowed him to create three holographic copies of himself. The blade in Four Swords has the same hilt and the same color as the final one in Minish and he becomes 4 separate Links, each having one of his traits. They all have the same sword, just that the color on the hilt is different for each one. Red Link has red as the color on the end instead of green, Blue has blue and Purple has purple. Green being the original, still has the green color on his. He also deals with the same villain, Vaati

In my personal headcanon, Zelda from zelda 1 dies at the end from the exhaustion of resisting Ganon's torture. It explains why she is not present in the kingdom in Zelda 2, and even gives link some seriously good motivation for awaking the original ancient zelda from her slumber. It would be a great twist in a novelization.

I’m basically building a playlist of Zelda lore video to pass the time till ToTK so this will be a nice addition

For myself: triforce of wisdom cuz Knowing things is cool, but sometimes I might need the courage one more haha. As for u: i bestow upon you the triforce of courage, so you have the power to do anything u want and set your mind to :)

3 videos??? It feels like I’ve been watching this for an entire lol. Crazy to see how the timeline goes

42:17 Ganondorf already knew the king of Hyrule wouldnt even think of helping his people.

10:02 so let me get this straight… from the game SPIRIT tracks, a game where you are accompanied by a Zelda’s SPIRIT trying to reconnect the tower of SPIRITS and generally work with SPIRITS to fight Malladus, an evil formless SPIRIT… you decide to call that link the hero of trains(?) and the hero of Spirits??

Just so everyone knows, the Link from the original Legend of Zelda is called the “Hero of Hyrule”

Thank you for sharing

Holy Lore Bandit!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🖤

I’d take the triforce of wisdom, because knowing is half the battle. Also if Zelda and Link from Skyward Sword repopulated the land wouldn’t that mean everyone is related which implies inbreeding…..

In reallity, the link and zelda of the oracles are different from those of link to the past, as indicated in the original japanese version of hyrule encyclopedia, even the game confirms this in a way, since zelda is presented to link as if they did not know each other, which would not make sense if they were the same as ALTTP.

Does demise’s curse stop existing in the adult timeline? With no spirit of the hero to pursue maybe ganondorf stops being an embodiment of hatred. Would explain why he (relatively) chills out in windwaker

I think part of the reason Link and Zelda have the piece of the triforce in twilight princess is because when Ganondorf was executed he was given the triforce of power (a divine prank, but maybe the goddesses trying to "fix" the split in the timeline caused by Zelda) so with one piece taken the other two were scattered to those that embodied them most, specifically the bloodline of the hero and the goddess incarnate

I still have issues with the "Wind Waker Link isn't the Spirit of the Hero," particularly because the 'evidence' for it primarily comes from the King of Red Lions. And the problem with using The King of Red Lions' dialogue with Jaboon as 'evidence' that Wind Waker Link isn't the Spirit of the Hero is twofold. The first problem is that The King of Red Lions and Jaboon, obviously, exist within the restraints of the world of WW. In the case of the King of Red Lions, he also exists within the mindset of someone who has overwhelmingly been in isolation for hundreds of years, with his only real knowledge of the Hero being.... that the Hero didn't come to save Hyrule hundreds of years ago. Meaning that his words _can't actually be taken as objective fact._ He's saying what he thinks, with all the millenia of misinformation caused by oral tradition. The second problem is the existence of Skyward Sword on the whole. As a later entry to the series and one that Nintendo and Miyamoto were both *aggressively* involved in the development of, any information given in Skyward Sword takes priority over information given in any prior games. Meaning that the bit about how "the Mastersword is actually _Master's Sword,_ and can ONLY be wielded by the warrior with the soul of THE Hero;" takes precedence over the information given in Wind Waker. Including the bit about "not being the soul of the Hero." The problems with the "the spirit of the hero is dead forever" theory extend to Spirit Tracks. Demise's curse is literally overriding. No Spirit of the Hero, no Zelda with divine power from her divine heritage, and no embodiment of the hate of the Demon Tribe. The Malodus is still an evil that would fall under the Curse of Demise. It's not something that was ever limited to just Ganondorf and Ganon.

I hope the master sword is a major part or the first part of the quest In tears of the kingdom

23:37 also gets here tan back somehow

12:52 - THE WIND FISH IN NAME ONLY, FOR IT IS NEITHER

17:12 technically this would be true of BOTW as well because Zeldas' mother (who was most likely a Zelda as well) was also in a flashback

Bandit: Is that confusing? Me: No I understand it completely.

Oh snap! 52 minutes? Hitting us with a whole ass movie! Lets gooooooo!

I do like these videos being together like this. Any chance of doing the same for other recurring characters?

11:41 That’s what you think Also: Non-canon but still my favorite, Hero of Trophies. He knows Zelda and Ganondorf, and pulled the Master Sword out of a stump, but other than that no backstory.

I like to have head cannon that each Link is a reincarnation of the Skyward sword link… like a bond beyond time with Zelda/Hylia’s reincarnations as each Princess Zelda. It seems that atleast in the Hero Wins timeline, most links are just straight descents of the last 🤷🏻‍♂️ atleast with the hero of time and twilight Princess

Alternate reality? I think the Downfall Timeline was the only true timeline and the other two were just stories that the Hylian survivors told to maintain hope.

Perhaps the light force from minish cap and the power of the goddess hylia ( time ) is why totk zelda has an affinity for both powers.

When are you going to make an updated video with ToTK lore since its already out?

I like to think the hero of Hyrule is gramps in a link between worlds.

I like to assume that the Royalty in The Legend of Zelda use titles according to the logic of Shrek: "Farquaad: Evening. Mirror, mirror, on the wall, is this not the most perfect kingdom of them all? Magic Mirror: Well, technically, you're not a king. Farquaad: Uh, Thelonius? [Thelonius the executioner smashes a small looking glass] You were saying? Magic Mirror: [nervous] I mean you're not a king yet! But you can become one! All you have to do is marry a princess... Farquuad: Go on." Perhaps the ruler doesn't earn their title until they've married, hence why Zelda isn't Queen but her father was King. That would explain most of the series. There may be exceptions but it makes sense throughout the main games.

I really wish we would have gotten another zelda game of OOT/MM link continuing his journey to find Navi, and then eventually returning to Hyrule as an adult with the all masks from MM.

Linos age in botw is referenced in the game directly. When you arrive at gerudo Town in the bar, the bartender says that link is too Young And the prompt of his real age appears

I absolutely think Demise is returning in totk if you look at old clips of the game and see demise he's got the long red glowing like hair that you see in the 3rd trailer for totk

I named my Hero of Winds, and Hero of Trains Chain and Channel respectively

i love how you mention: "did ganon just conjure up an image of zelda just cuz?" and then we have tears of the kingdom

you should have talked about the hero of man the hero in between the minish and the sky its really interesting actully

10:00 My brother in Christ "Hero of Spirits" was right there.

Omg wait that blue lobster shirt is from windwaker?! That makes it even more adorable 🥺. You can do a mini quest to get it in TOTK, apparently it belongs to some kids dad that wore it a lot when he was younger, sir, are you Link? Howd you get his shirt lol

Watching this after TOTK’s release and seeing him speculate about BOTW & TOTK feels like I hold forbidden knowledge.

This video changed my life

I don’t want to spoil, but in french, the knight that teaches sword techniques to Link in Twilight Princess confirm he is the father of Link. His last words after the last technique is « my son » Aaaaaand!!! I’m pretty sure the father of Link from BOTW is the Link from Twilight Princess. Why don’t really know what happened to him after killing Zant and Ganondorf, but we don’t see him at the end of the game at his starting village (in french it’s called Toal, in english i’m not sure) so I presume he stayed at Hyrule castle by Zelda’s sides as a knight

The theory of splitting the hero and child, that’s a good one. 😮

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It may be a mat pat theory, but in a link between worlds, the link from a link to the past is actually in a link between worlds. He's the old man who sets up the multiplayer mode, and he is the final boss in that section. I believe that similar to how Zelda 1 and 2 have 2 zeldas, alttp and albw have 2 different links.

I think BoTW and ToTK have done a great job of finally explaining something to me. In the fallen timeline there are two Zelda's because when all else failed, Zelda could have been sealed away in the hopes of one day fixing something that went wrong in her timeline, or to at least save the goddess bloodline. I say that cause BoTW shows Zelda going into stasis by magic. ToTK showed us that 2 Zelda's can exist due to a time paradox. We know of healing and sealing chambers litter the series. I think then that game ends the timeline cause Zelda goes back to as a kid and warns Link that Ganon is a bad man.