Tech Lore : Phasers... Like an Oberth, but actually dangerous

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6 жыл бұрын

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Today's video is a request from one of our Counselors of the Lore! He asked Lore to explain the difference between phasers and disruptors.
Unfortunately, we know tons more about phasers than disruptors, so this video is based on Federation phasers, next video we'll talk about mounted phasers and hopefully we'll round out this new playlist with a video on disruptors... assuming we can dig up enough research to make the video more than two minutes long...
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Tech lore : Phasers and Disruptors.. More Dangerous than an Oberth
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@martijnvanweele6204
@martijnvanweele6204 6 жыл бұрын
You need only four settings on any futuristic gun: 1. stun. 2. kill. 3. overkill. 4. pocket death star.
@stardude2006
@stardude2006 5 жыл бұрын
martijn van weele Light stun Heavy stun Heat Vaporize
@aleky98
@aleky98 5 жыл бұрын
A Zat'nik'tel got you covered Stun Kill Disintegrate
@aiosquadron
@aiosquadron 4 жыл бұрын
Love the pocket death star...
@AWriterWandering
@AWriterWandering 6 жыл бұрын
Holographs are described as "forcefields and photons", so it would make sense for it to impact the forcefield part.
@VERTHASAMVS
@VERTHASAMVS 6 жыл бұрын
On the AR-558 issue. I would suspect that using wide beam would consume a lot of power, where as individual shots would not. Sisko had limited supplies and did not know when relief would be coming. More over in this unspecified time, more Dominion troops could land. So if Sisko blasted away with wide beam, using half a power pack per shot, they would be out of packs in no time. Alternatively, main line type three rifles didn't actually come with Wide beam during the dominion war, potentially to prevent excessive use of the mode. There's a historical precedent for this. The British bought semi-automatic FN-FALs to prevent their troops from going full auto in the heat of battle and wasting their ammo. Or it could just be a cost cutting measure by the studio *BLEEP*
@brentaughe1695
@brentaughe1695 6 жыл бұрын
That is a good point. Also if they shot wide beam, they could have brought the roof down on everyone.
@VERTHASAMVS
@VERTHASAMVS 6 жыл бұрын
Another good point.
@moguldamongrel3054
@moguldamongrel3054 5 жыл бұрын
Pop a crystal in the front and you get phaser shotgun.
@Kinepho
@Kinepho 6 жыл бұрын
TOS had at least ONE example I can clearly remember of it being used as a tool. When Sulu was stuck down on the freezing cold planet, he used them to heat rocks to keep him and the rest of the landing party warm.
@stevenp3176
@stevenp3176 6 жыл бұрын
Kinepho They’ve done that exact thing in every series. Seems like a versatile piece of tech.
@destructionator17
@destructionator17 6 жыл бұрын
scotty used one to cut into a wall in an episode too. "The Changeling"... I think.
@stofsk
@stofsk 6 жыл бұрын
The episode was 'The Naked Time', where Scotty used a phaser to cut into a wall recess and override a manual lock that a deranged crewman had engaged. It's actually kind of crazy that you can lock people out of main engineering but I guess the plot of that episode would fall apart if it didn't so *shrug*
@destructionator17
@destructionator17 6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, of course, I recall it was engineering but mixed up the details. BTW Chris?! Small internet! lol
@stofsk
@stofsk 6 жыл бұрын
Holy shit Adam I didn't even notice your username lol
@Starman_Dx
@Starman_Dx 6 жыл бұрын
Lore, stop it. An Oberth would have to know how to shoot to know what shots fired meant. Oberth's don't shoot, they explode defensively.
@ravenebony2267
@ravenebony2267 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, burn! Which is what people do in an Oberth during battle.
@FleetpawSwiftback
@FleetpawSwiftback 6 жыл бұрын
Ouch, shots fired... At the Oberth, which explodes without even being hit!
@M33f3r
@M33f3r 6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the boomrats in rimworld. Only against an attacker that can be far outside your explosion range its kind of useless.
@Corvus__
@Corvus__ 5 жыл бұрын
SHOTS FI-oh, yeah... Never mind.
@starbrand3726
@starbrand3726 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Changing phaser frequencies DOES change how the beams look. In ST: TNG when fighting the Borg, Commander Shelby told Data to vary the phaser frequencies. The phasers then shot out more like pulses and the beams changed from their normal orange to yellow, white, and blueish.
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 5 жыл бұрын
Not in future movies or series or even episodes when it would still be occuring
@Krahazik
@Krahazik 4 жыл бұрын
I blame the lack of consistency there on CGI budget and lack of attention to detail there
@MigrantThought
@MigrantThought 6 жыл бұрын
Oberths have Phasers so Oberths are Dangerous. My logic is super effective.
@builder396
@builder396 6 жыл бұрын
Well. We know if you set phasers to overload they explode and do damage. If you set a Oberth to overload it explodes and does no damage. What if we set the Phasers on a Oberth to overload?
@a.l.e.x8118
@a.l.e.x8118 6 жыл бұрын
builder396 they will explode and do damage to the oberth which will explode and will do no damage
@Jack29151
@Jack29151 6 жыл бұрын
see, the problem there is, when the weapons officer in an oberth hits the fire button, the Oberth instantly and immediately explodes, doing absolutely no actual damage lol
@Kaefer1973
@Kaefer1973 5 жыл бұрын
@ Migrant Thought I think I remember differently, Oberths don't have phasors (plural) but a phasor (singular).
@Kaefer1973
@Kaefer1973 5 жыл бұрын
@ John Stauffer I'm quite certain the Oberth class, as a pure non-militaristic ship, doesn't have weapon officers.
@tubewatcher77
@tubewatcher77 3 жыл бұрын
It was an invisible Phaser that killed the redshirt in the Gorn episode. There was even an episode where they heated a stone with a phaser and Kirk considered to dig holes in the rock to find the silicon creature.
@tommyss4l
@tommyss4l 6 жыл бұрын
I personally prefer the older phaser models. They look like weapons and not a TV remote.
@greggv8
@greggv8 5 жыл бұрын
Or a Dustbuster handheld vacuum cleaner.
@dragonknightleader1
@dragonknightleader1 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that Undiscovered Country Phaser was my absolute favorite. Damn near looks like a machine pistol.
@XSilver_WaterX
@XSilver_WaterX 5 жыл бұрын
Sure Partical weapons can go light-speed(and only light-speed), but the use of Kinetic weapons would be much better for the Federation. Don't believe me, look at the correct science Kyle at Because Science when he ends the rivalry between energy, partical, and kinetic weapons, my vote is Mass Effect weapons.
@katakisLives
@katakisLives 5 жыл бұрын
they changed the form factor to reflect the improving of technology, they did not need to look like a gun anymore, its similar to the way that early cars looked like a stage coach minus the horse and now they look totally different
@calebgarrett214
@calebgarrett214 3 жыл бұрын
@@katakisLives failed logic. A gun is currently the best design for aiming, remotes would he hard to aim
@Jacen32272
@Jacen32272 5 жыл бұрын
You can see a type one hand phaser mounted on top of the type two pistol phaser. In essence, the type two had extra power cells and enhanced output systems, but the functional beam generator from a type one was used to make it a useful weapon. Beta cannon from an original series tech manual: the type one on top of the type two was removable and could be used as a separate functional weapon. Also, the type one had half the settings, and setting 2 was "heavy stun"; used for tougher humanoid targets like Klingons and Vulkens, while setting one was for Humans and others of similar durability.
@fireforeffect1979
@fireforeffect1979 6 жыл бұрын
The Oberth was a very dangerous ship............to it's crew!
@macnut68
@macnut68 5 жыл бұрын
C'mon people have a some pity for the Oberth. It was specialist vessel, a SCIENCE vessel, not designed for combat. And the one time we see it get up against another ship is versus a KLINGON WARSHIP with an OVER-ENTHUSIASTIC GUNNER! Of COURSE it was going to be one-shotted into oblivion.
@dragonknightleader1
@dragonknightleader1 5 жыл бұрын
Hey! It did a good job exploding against that asteroid when the Enterprise towed it.
@geroldgrimel4811
@geroldgrimel4811 3 жыл бұрын
I love your presentation and hosting style. Very enjoyable!
@sg586
@sg586 6 жыл бұрын
In TOS Scotty uses the phaser as a phaser torch to cut through the bulkhead outside engineering after O'riley lock himself in. Episode the naked time.
@mxplixic
@mxplixic 5 жыл бұрын
And Yeoman Rand used one as a coffee maker. :)
@vontar1
@vontar1 5 жыл бұрын
in The Enemy Within (Star Trek: The Original Series). Phasers are also used as a Tool, the area team used them to heat rocks to provide warmth during the freezing cold until they ran out of power.
@energicko
@energicko 6 жыл бұрын
As Scotty once said, a phaser drains fast (when it's power cell is used to fuel a shuttle craft). A few honorable mentions. "Corbomite Maneuver"/"Enemy Within"/"A Private Little War" : heating coffee or rocks. "A Piece of the Action" :shipboard phaser banks can be set to stun. "Conscience of the King"/"Man Trap"/Undiscovered Country" :close range kill setting, non disintegrate "Squire of Gothos" :kill setting, disintegrate "Mark of Gideon" :phaser disposal units for infected corpses (source-"Worlds of the Federation" book by Shane Johnston) "Ensigns of Command" : positronic upgrade within a radiation dampeing field, making a smartphaser (before Androids & smartphones! Chekov would have needed that with his hand held Klingon disruptor in "Voyage Home") "Enterprise" episode when a phased pistol was used to change spinning axis of a disabled floating shuttle pod. Numerous final season episodes of "Voyager" :iMod (infinite modulation) phaser rifles- to rotate frequency for constantly adapting Borg shields.
@time391
@time391 6 жыл бұрын
I have a theory Lore: TOS era phasers were Blue Colored, TNG modified phasers to kill Borg were also Blue, urgo, I think TOS era Phasers were set to highest resonance frequency possible for a more militaristic Starfleet that would destroy foes like Klingon ships or romulan attack ships. As pacifism came into practice across the post Klingon Cold War era, Starfleet adopted a less kill on sight principle and reduced their weapons settings and phaser power accordingly.. This would explain why Miranda and Constitution class starships even in the TNG era could still pose a powerful punch, because TNG era warships were nerfed in the cause of peace aka Galaxy pre-dominion war variant was weaker than Constitution class in offensive capability by design..
@stardude2006
@stardude2006 5 жыл бұрын
Wen L. Phasers can be tuned Lasers cannot
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 5 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the tos phasers were red...
@richardlahan7068
@richardlahan7068 4 жыл бұрын
Never saw a blue beam Starfleet hand phaser (or ship mounted phaser).They were always yellow/orange regardless of the setting
@Phenix19
@Phenix19 3 жыл бұрын
"Urgo"... lol
@gregorynofsker7554
@gregorynofsker7554 5 жыл бұрын
When you're standing on an icy world only wearing your Starfleet T-Shirt (hopefully not Red).... What else is better to heat up a pile of rocks & roast marshmallows?
@CaptGrout
@CaptGrout 6 жыл бұрын
Phaser Type I is the black portion on top, detached from the pistol grip and held in the palm of the hand (less power, more concealable). Phaser Type II is what is pictured: The palm-held black portion cradled on top of the pistol grip (more power, less concealable).
@commanderkruge
@commanderkruge 6 жыл бұрын
Yah, the pistol holds additional energy packs and, if I'm not mistaken, also an amplifier.
@marklerma8499
@marklerma8499 5 жыл бұрын
NERD!!!!!!
@JosephWiess
@JosephWiess 6 жыл бұрын
colllimate: In radiology colllimation is the effect of attenuating the x-ray beam by using lead shutters in the aperture. There are four lead strips in the collimator. Two two go lengthwise and two widthwise, It's like the shutters in a camera. I'm guessing that in theory, Phasers could be collimated in the same way. Open it wide up and it's a fan beam, close it down, it's like a narrow beam.
@surtcaldera
@surtcaldera 6 жыл бұрын
Semiconductor lasers are collimated optically to generate a narrow beam with minimal spread.
@oldtimefarmboy617
@oldtimefarmboy617 5 жыл бұрын
In the original series, Scotty used a phaser to cut through a wall to get into the auxiliary bridge which was locked from the inside by what turned out to be some anti-starfleet hippies they had rescued, McCoy used a phaser to heat up rocks to warm up a cave where Kirk was suffering the effects of an animals venom, Kirk used a phaser to try and dig a hole in the surface of what turned out to be an artificial planet whose surface was made of a phaser resistant material.
@RinIsArty
@RinIsArty 6 жыл бұрын
Also, the way the settings go is 1 for normal stun, 2 for heavy stun on things that don't stun easy, and then various settings of kill such as: 'kill' 'medium rare' and 'fried to a crisp'
@notoriouswhitemoth
@notoriouswhitemoth 3 жыл бұрын
@5:00 because it was the mid 90's and re-watching recordings of a tv show on-demand well after its original broadcast was a new concept, so there was no guarantee anyone had ever seen any prior episodes - or ever would.
@MasterHiramAbiff
@MasterHiramAbiff 6 жыл бұрын
A phaser type one fits in the palm of the hand. Snap it onto the "pistol grip" handle, and it becomes a Type 2. (It's not just a handle, there is some sort of energy enhancer in it) As you said, Type 3 is the rifle.
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870
@thefirstprimariscatosicari6870 6 жыл бұрын
Regarding how everyone has phasers there is the fact that as you said most of the time they nothing in common with each other except the "phase" part, that indicates that they can change the frequency (something absolutely needed if you want to shoot trought shields). After that phasers vary from phased lasers to phased anti-proton beams.
@madrabbit9007
@madrabbit9007 6 жыл бұрын
I think the writers use Phasers like a Swiss army knife to fill plot holes.
@DoctorX17
@DoctorX17 5 жыл бұрын
I think what set the "heat" setting apart was that rather than firing particles that were meant to cause damage, it did something different that would just transfer kinetic energy into the target
@Imperius254
@Imperius254 6 жыл бұрын
You know with all of the ways to nullify a phaser, you'd think Starfleet would also keep ballistic weapons around. All you have to do is load a clip/mag, make sure the weapon is maintained and you won't have to worry about silly damping fields or different types of radiation that render energy weapons useless. Also as it was demonstrated in First Contact, not even the Borg could adapt to a good old Tompson SMG
@paulofevilbathrobes4627
@paulofevilbathrobes4627 6 жыл бұрын
probably for the same reason the DOD is still in love with the .223 dispute it being a 22LR with delusions of grandeur
@garrettharriman6333
@garrettharriman6333 6 жыл бұрын
They did have the TR116 in development.
@Imperius254
@Imperius254 6 жыл бұрын
R3D PH1573R but they ultimately scrapped it in favor of regenerating phasers in order to overcome a type of energy field that rendered normal phasers inoperable. Personally, if I was in the Star Trek universe I would not use energy weapons in ground combat just because there are so many ways to cause them to no longer function and it would be more practical to use a ballistic weapon
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Lord Of Evil Bathrobes. You say that like every other major power hasnt gone to similar calibers.
@stevenp3176
@stevenp3176 6 жыл бұрын
Dark Lord Of Evil Bathrobes They want soldiers to carry larger amounts of ammunition and the overall weapon be smaller and cheaper. The 5.56 does that compared to a 7.62. It’s pretty effective against body armor as well.
@Bigred073
@Bigred073 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure United Earth also had plasma weapons before transitioning to phasers. For starters, the farmer at Broken Bow in the pilot episode was said to be using a "plasma rifle". The Enterprise crew started out using pistols that looked like they fired plasma bolts before switching to phase pistol prototypes; and the MACOs, as well as the security teams, used mostly compact plasma rifles (the same props used by the Jem h'dar and a few other groups from DS9 and I think TNG as well).
@QuestionDeca
@QuestionDeca 5 жыл бұрын
RECOLLIMATE: As Collimate means to align lenses to remove aberrations in a beam (in RL of Light) along line of sight, to Recollimate is to do so again after something, in this case radiation, adds aberrations or mis-aligns the lenses. Basically, it means that there is something in a phaser that focuses the beam and can be realigned to account for whatever aberration the addition of radiation has on the beam. A Wide Beam setting would be purposefully unfocusing the beam, usually along one axis. A Multi-Beam would be splitting one beam into multiple beams, again through the same focusing mechanism. So the utility of a Phaser isn't inherent to the beam, but the focusing mechanism which may be what's unique to Federation Phasers.
@rjpunkin
@rjpunkin 6 жыл бұрын
THANKS REALLY INTERESTING
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated
@DissociatedWomenIncorporated 5 жыл бұрын
In the original series, Yoeman Rand heated up some coffee with phasers when some of the Enterprise's power went out. I can't remember which episode. And from what I recall the phaser settings as of the TNG era are: *1:* Light stun *2:* Medium stun (risk of death with prolonged exposure at close range) *3:* Heavy stun (risk of death at close range, and can boil 1 cubic centimetre of water per second, I guess this is the coffee reheat setting) *3.4:* Make Odo bitch about being a labrat *3.5:* Probably good enough to dissuade Odo's family dropping by for Christmas *4 - 6:* Heat settings, serious injury if misused as a weapon (rather than tool) setting *7:* Kill a humanoid, leave a corpse *8:* Why not simply... waporise him? *9 - 16:* ∗ Overkill (I mean, sometimes you might wanna shoot down a shuttle or disintegrate a huge cliff face) ∗ _Only available on Type II and III phasers._
@Blasted2Oblivion
@Blasted2Oblivion Жыл бұрын
I have a thought on the level 1 stun being lethal at close enough range. It's something we see with modern day weapons that are designed not to kill. They still have the ability to do so in the right circumstances. It could be that various settings are for how much energy gets to the target. A certain amount of energy will overload the nervous system and render you unconscious while more energy will burn a hole through your sternum. If you are too close, the beam still has too much energy and is lethal.
@RENEGADEJon19
@RENEGADEJon19 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Firefly image!
@FreeThePorgs
@FreeThePorgs 6 жыл бұрын
Nope, in star trek movie where Kirk was blamed for killing Gorkon there was a brief scene in the dilithium mine where there was a 3 barrel mining laser that fired red lasers-phasers that was being used to cut rock by a prisoner...this was only seen for about 5 seconds, and was seen cutting through rocks...
@Gothic7876
@Gothic7876 6 жыл бұрын
That’s the Movie Era, not TOS era. It’s a slight difference...
@FreeThePorgs
@FreeThePorgs 6 жыл бұрын
Gothic7876 how so???? It's all TOS when compared to TNG and later....
@Gothic7876
@Gothic7876 6 жыл бұрын
Different uniforms, and different design Aesthetic. Like I said slight
@FreeThePorgs
@FreeThePorgs 6 жыл бұрын
Gothic7876 ok I see, but do you not consider a constitution class, even the refit a TOS era compared to TNG era??? They still had Kirk and crew...
@Gothic7876
@Gothic7876 6 жыл бұрын
Original Constitution is a TOS era vessel, the refit is TMP era. Enterprise Era, TOS Era, TMP era, TNG era. These are the recognised eras
@tjacree6910
@tjacree6910 4 жыл бұрын
I always figured kill was when they just got a hole or wound if it didnt hit a vital organ and maximum is when they get vaporized
@beardo52
@beardo52 5 жыл бұрын
In the original concept, the hand Phaser was equipped with it's own shielding feature to protect the shooter from incoming fire.
@Merennulli
@Merennulli Жыл бұрын
They DID change the effect for the phasers that were remodulated to combat the Borg adaptations. They went from a solid color beam with hued layers to a sort of dashed line of multiple colors.
@176bammm
@176bammm 5 жыл бұрын
Also, Type 2 pistol style also came in different variations. TOS type 2a--"continuous beam", Wrath of Khan type 2b integrated--"Rapid pulse beam..." Search for Spock---"Pulse Beam..." UnDiscovered Country type 2c Heavy Assault phaser---"Continuous Beam...Removable Magazine style powerpacks..." TNG utility style phaser type 2---"streamed beam..." Then Kelvin Timeline *(blaster like.)* Type 1b tactical " Burst/Pulse Bolt..." [Note: Never elaborated if this type of Phaser was capable of disintegration...] STD type 2/1 combo..."Burst/Beam modes..." [Note: some have removable type powerpacks or batteries...Or TNG self-regenerating type....]
@garrettharriman6333
@garrettharriman6333 6 жыл бұрын
Phasers, specifically the type 2 phasers from TNG, are personal weapons that are too smart for their operator's own good in some ways so their physical design is suitably dumb to compensate. First, the tool & weapon combo idea sounds good on paper, but the added complexity would probably hinder the function of a phaser's weapon aspect. Trying to keep track of which setting your phaser is on in a firefight makes an already chaotic situation more so. The design is atrocious for a weapon platform. Aesthetically it is pleasing but that's where it stops. I'll start with the most glaring flaw: the complete lack of a safety mechanism. One errant finger press and you've got a hopefully only stunned cadet to clean off of the deck. That's assuming that it wasn't set to "Oberth" by accidentally banging up against a handrail during a ship-rattling space battle. At least install a grip safety so the damn thing doesn't go off without positive pressure on the handle. Speaking of the placement of the buttons, why in Q's black space would you put the beam configuration controls right above the fire button? And again on a weapon that does not have a designated safety? Want to go from stun to kill during a tense situation in which, due to an elevated heart rate, your fine motor control has been blasted out of an airlock? Great! Just be sure to not accidentally press the fire button conveniently placed underneath both adjustment keys! No danger there! I'm starting to think all these refits are "minor" because constantly patching up bulkheads due to negligent weapon discharges is more tedious than completely rearranging the ship's layout. Starfleet could probably save a lot of time, lives, and resources by moving those buttons to either side of the phaser's casing. Finally, how are you supposed to aim a phaser with anything approaching precision? I understand that they apparently have some sort of targeting sensor placed near the beam emitter, but trusting a potentially lethal weapon to aim itself in a universe with spotty AI and hackable FFI is a real recipe for disaster. Phaser and compression rifles have sights so surely Starfleet's most ubiquitous weapon might benefit as well. Maybe a small holoprojector on top that displays a crosshair or something? It would certainly help with those a-little-too-frequent for comfort hostage scenarios.
@stevenp3176
@stevenp3176 6 жыл бұрын
R3D PH1573R Just like we have mechanical safeties I don’t see why they can’t have smart safeties. Ie the weapon knows when the hand is correctly positioned. I also don’t see why they can’t use some sort of ballistic computer/sensors to correct for shaky hands ect.
@garrettharriman6333
@garrettharriman6333 6 жыл бұрын
The problem with the lack of sights isn't shakey hands, it's how do you know the computer is pointing at the right target? A display or crosshair routed from that sensor would probably reduce collateral damage and improve accuracy.
@2bituser569
@2bituser569 6 жыл бұрын
Simple safeties not AI’s enabled phasers are best imho. One glaring problem is no trigger guard or trigger safety.
@stevenp3176
@stevenp3176 5 жыл бұрын
Daniel Bennett I’m sure like grip and trigger safety’s of today they would have some smart system that knows when it’s user intends to fire it versus a bump against a object.
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 5 жыл бұрын
Garret Harriman must be a big fan of the mp5's used in SG1! I agree with him...the guys that designed phasers probably had little experience in actual weapon design, or they would have placed the adjustable controls on the side of the weapon & not on top, and would have made some kind of rudimentary sight on top or at least a red dot sight. Heck, the disruptor rifle the assassin in ST VI(undiscovered country) had a scope at least.
@joehanna3623
@joehanna3623 5 жыл бұрын
Based on episodes of TOS, small arms phasers had four settings; stun, heavy stun, kill and insensitive beam for cutting through metal and boaring through rock..
@patricklenigan1650
@patricklenigan1650 5 жыл бұрын
I think the reason they did not use the wide setting at the Battle of AR-558 (probably got that wrong) was because it uses a LOT of power from the phaser's energy cell. given that they were on their own and power was not readily available, it would make sense that starfleet would try to conserve their energy supply to last as long as possible.
@commanderkruge
@commanderkruge 6 жыл бұрын
Phaser class 1 is the little black thing on top of the phaser pistol - it comes off and is a small, handheld phaser unit. The class 2 is basically a class 1 plus additional energy pack and amplifier.
@jmfowler9062
@jmfowler9062 6 жыл бұрын
Will you do more tech lore videos? This would be amazing
@Marinealver
@Marinealver 6 жыл бұрын
Love the whole Phasers a lazy writing for lasers cuts added in the video. Also Kirk tried to dig a grave with a phaser for a dead red shirt on an away team.
@PCLoadLetter
@PCLoadLetter 5 жыл бұрын
In TOS ‘The Galileo Seven’ Scotty adapted hand phasers as a backup power supply for a shuttlecraft.
@CaptPatrick01
@CaptPatrick01 6 жыл бұрын
1 green light, good for heating soup and starting campfires, 3 green welds that loose plate, 5 green subdues sober guy, 8 green subdues meth head, 2 yellow kills a man, 4 yellow kills a bear, 1 red vaporizes small objects, 3 red vaporizes large obstructions, 5 red vaporizes Cthulhu, continue to tap after 5 red turns Phaser into grenade, throw towards enemy or be reduced to giblets within 10 seconds.
@mikevasquez1103
@mikevasquez1103 6 жыл бұрын
What about when Captain Archer and Lieutenant Commander trip had to survive out in the cold desert? Set phasers to campfire LOL. Considering how goofy the Next Generation got from time to time, I'm surprised Wesley Crusher didn't try to find a phase or setting that could properly toast a marshmallow😆
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 5 жыл бұрын
Shut up Wesley!
@codyraugh6599
@codyraugh6599 4 жыл бұрын
Well he already had a highschool project so he made self cooking marshmallows who also sexually satisfied you before you eat them...oh and they turned evil capitalists into Federation citizens.
@DavidBarkland
@DavidBarkland 6 жыл бұрын
My guess about the double kill settings is that the 3 is more or less "handgun" while the 10 is "40 mm cannon", depending on how dead you need something.
@trippsmythoftheaurigancoal8155
@trippsmythoftheaurigancoal8155 6 жыл бұрын
James, good video as always, though what about the Phaser Knife?
@oldtimefarmboy9330
@oldtimefarmboy9330 6 жыл бұрын
TOS Scotty once used a phaser to cut through a wall to get to internal circuitry to open a door to the secondary bridge that had been taken over by an hostile humans.
@clearspira
@clearspira 6 жыл бұрын
One of SFDebris most long-running jokes is just how shitty a weapon the phaser is. This is a weapon without sights, without a trigger guard, has a holster without a strap and as such is prone to falling out, is frequently blocked by obstacles that a modern bullet would be able to penetrate, is unreliable, can be rendered useless using technobabble, has a slow firing rate, is cumbersome to hold, and even at point-blank range full in the chest it often produces nothing more than a flesh wound and some flashy pyrotechnics. It got so bad in one episode of Enterprise that he mused that one man with an old hunting rifle could probably slaughter the entire Away Team without effort. And I don't buy this weapon's inconsistent results being due to it having multiple settings as we see this weapon frequently do nothing even in the hands of bad guys with no reason to hold back.
@surtcaldera
@surtcaldera 6 жыл бұрын
Semiconductor lasers are collimated optically with glass or plastic lenses to generate a narrow beam with minimal spread, so the term "collimation" is meaningful, and would most likely be applicable to phaser technology. Changing the resonant frequency would not necessarily change the color noticeably. It would depend how much it was necessary to change it to defeat the borg shields.
@blahfasel2000
@blahfasel2000 5 жыл бұрын
Most of the technical/physical stuff where you just shrugged is actually lifted pretty much straightforward from current day laser technology. You can buy tunable lasers right now where the output wavelength (the color) can be changed on the fly by (very precisely) changing the size of the optical cavity within the laser, in other words, by changing its resonant frequency. A collimator is a device that focuses light (laser or otherwise) into a parallel beam, so it's pretty clear what "recollimate" could mean. It isn't obvious why the beam color doesn't change when they rotate frequencies against the borg, but this could simply mean that the frequency changes are actually only pretty minute (say a few gigahertz or so), which wouldn't change the color as perceived by humans at all. For visible light, if you change the frequency by a couple dozen gigahertz, some people with very good color vision might be able to tell a very slight hue difference in a direct comparison, but for the light to change into a completely different color, you would need frequency changes of tens to hundreds of TERAhertz. Compare it to lasers: while you can build lasers for all sorts of different wavelengths (frequencies), a single given tunable laser can only be tuned over a narrow range. For most types the limit is plus/minus a few nanometers (basically imperceptible for humans), but for some types it can be as large as 50nm or so, which, while easily perceptible, is still basically within the range of a single primary color.
@tonyf8167
@tonyf8167 5 жыл бұрын
i believe it was the "alcohol" disease episode around the ice planet... Scotty uses a hand phaser as a precision cutting tool to access the engine room that was sealed off by Lt. Reilly.
@stardude2006
@stardude2006 5 жыл бұрын
The Phaser has a hidden secret setting : Tickle ! 👽💚
@orutakawatenga8820
@orutakawatenga8820 6 жыл бұрын
Type 1 was usually referred to as Cricket Phasers & were derringer sized, Type 2 were the gun shaped Phasers in TOS to the TMPs only to made into the Phaser wands of TNG through to Nemesis, & Type 3s were always vaguely to precisely rifle shaped in configuration.
@TheKahlez
@TheKahlez 6 жыл бұрын
If an Oberth could be survive long enough to shot it could be dangerous...let Oberths dream.
@FleetpawSwiftback
@FleetpawSwiftback 6 жыл бұрын
Lore Reloaded: about the phasers changing frequencies in BOBW, both the hand units, and ship mounted phasers changed colors. They were a red/pink/blueish color when the away team boarded the cube, and also when the Enterprise freed itself from the tractor beam and hid in the nebula.
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 6 жыл бұрын
They didn't in Voyager or first contact
@FleetpawSwiftback
@FleetpawSwiftback 6 жыл бұрын
Lore Reloaded thanks for replying! No, they didn’t. I think we can probably attribute that to every inconsistency in Trek: bad writing, or forgetting what one writer did. Btw, I think another collab with TrekYards is in order! I love those! LLAP!
@That80sGuy1972
@That80sGuy1972 6 жыл бұрын
The phaser is a plot device. It can be programmed... I mean adjusted. Through a keypad, touch screen or a dial, it can be made to do just about anything. It is the Star Trek "This weapon can give energy in any way, usually a weapon but can be a tool" weapon. I like it. It is the ultimate in human flexibility reduced to being mostly a weapon, a way humans usually use said energy. The phaser is humanity in a weapon. Need I say more?
@tzor
@tzor 6 жыл бұрын
Since you showed a TOS phaser I was surprised you didn't mention the fact that the "Type 2" TOS phaser was a "Type 1" TOS phaser (the unit on top) that was attached to a more pistol like grip that somehow made the phaser even better (the grip apparently was a power storage device).
@1Scimetar
@1Scimetar 6 жыл бұрын
The only time I saw a phaser used as something besides a weapon was when Chekhov shot a boulder, temporarily turning it into a space heater for cold weather survival on the surface of a planet while the captain was leading an away team below.
@acarrot9868
@acarrot9868 6 жыл бұрын
Lore Reloaded: Roasting the fuck outta the Oberth since the 23rd century.
@coreymicallef365
@coreymicallef365 5 жыл бұрын
4:50 They might have told people to set the phasers to change frequencies as a moral boosting exercise. Just giving out some basic advise they should know by heart at the start of a battle against a fearsome foe as a show of preparedness and confidence by the senior officers to calm the junior crewmen's nerves.
@BlazingOwnager
@BlazingOwnager 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know, I remember in TOS they used them to heat up rocks and stuff in cold environments. Only example springing to mind though! ED: They also repaired a shuttle with a battery pack for one but that's a different situation..
@nickokona6849
@nickokona6849 5 жыл бұрын
I loved the Assault phaser pistols as seen in Star Trek 6.
@MrFilbot
@MrFilbot 5 ай бұрын
I thought phasers was like a catch all word like blasters, in Star Wars like other species might not necessarily call them phasers but they’re phaser like so somebody’s gonna be like “he’s got a phaser!”
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 5 жыл бұрын
If I had a ship going into deep space, it and my crew would always have old fashioned kinetic energy weapons(ie: guns) as a back-up just in case we ran across something that was resistant to energy weapons(plasma, radiation, particle, etc) you know...in case of Borg!
@thuzan117
@thuzan117 3 жыл бұрын
2:39 no they do use phasers as tools from time to time in TOS. On two occasions they used them to heat up rocks for warmth.
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 3 жыл бұрын
That’s using them as tools .. from time.. to time.. and not only in tos
@robertramos8607
@robertramos8607 2 жыл бұрын
Originally the disruptor was from the original series was a sonic disruptor using sound waves like that of a microwave that’s what they were explaining I remember one episode where they said that they used disruptors and it was a sonic disruptor that was at 10 to the power and it would’ve been disrupted if they did not have the screens up with our shields so that was the story I do not know what episode but it was that’s how it was explained I was told that those disruptors were sonic and uses soundwaves which I thought was a pretty good concept
@jamieslocks1822
@jamieslocks1822 6 жыл бұрын
I always figured they had to tell them to cycle the frequency was because constantly doing so would place much more strain on the weapon. Its not like its easy to have a weapon change its core operating modulation... or whatever they were trying to call it... in a firefight. The drain on the energy storage of the unit would lukely also be impacted, so why use it when not needed?
@greggv8
@greggv8 5 жыл бұрын
All Starfleet (and presumably allied member fleets of the Federation) crews would A. know about phaser frequency randomization - if installed in their weapons B. know to engage the function before engaging in battle with Borg. Being told to do so at every shooting contact with the Borg would get to be tiresome. Could be a CYA thing at the after action debriefings. "Captain, did you give the order to rotate phaser frequencies?" "I did, and the log so indicates." "Okay, then. That's off the table as a contributing factor to the loss of the ship."
@lordsrednuas
@lordsrednuas 6 жыл бұрын
Considering how many times phasers are "set to MAXIMUM stun!" it wouldn't be out of the question that all the settings between 1 and 3 are considered different stun levels.
@FattyMcFox
@FattyMcFox 6 жыл бұрын
So it is simple, just open the type 2 owners manual for the setting list. Setting1: Stun setting2:Heavy stun setting3:kill Setting4: Kill 2, with a vengenceSetting5:Thermal effect Setting6: Shake and bakeSetting7: I want to keep your ashes on the mantel setting8: Delete buttonSetting9: enough to get the job done but not as fun as 10 Setting10:Screw you and the ugly ass couch you are sitting on.Setting11: The spinal tap settingSetting12: you are almost a teenagerSetting13:Not to be used on Fridays Setting14: I want you and your friends all grease stains so stand together. Setting15: you are pushing your luckSetting16: She'll be coming through the mountain when she comes and she's pissed.
@darrenskjoelsvold
@darrenskjoelsvold 6 жыл бұрын
Do disruptors please. The difference between these weapons is subtle but interesting.
@jaysonpowell78
@jaysonpowell78 6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff LR. I guess I imagined that using energy weapons would be more cost effective than using the ballistic ammo.
@chrisfeltner
@chrisfeltner 5 жыл бұрын
i like to see my self the difference between like a type 10 and type 12 on star ship and all the different numbers they used vs like the ones on the defiant cannons
@charleschamp9826
@charleschamp9826 6 жыл бұрын
Or to save eight and a halfish minutes. Phasers: Good guy weapons that fire a glowy beam. Disruptors: Bad guy weapons that fire a glowy ball.
@commanderkruge
@commanderkruge 6 жыл бұрын
And now, thanks to STD, everybody just makes pewpewpewpew... :P
@TheDarkendstar
@TheDarkendstar 6 жыл бұрын
Just a thougjt on why sisko wouldnt use that setting if it can take down buildings wouldnt it heavily damage the station behind the jem hadar possibly leading to hull breaches?
@imofage3947
@imofage3947 6 жыл бұрын
+Lore Reloaded You should consider differentiating between Enterprise-era, TOS-era, and TNG-era phasers and settings. I know it's more complicated, but I think there are some key differences between the settings. Enterprise-era "Phase pistols" had 2 settings. Stun and kill. I don't know much about TOS-era phasers. Never watched TOS. I know, blasphemy right? TNG-era "type-2 phasers" have 16 power settings ranging from light-stun to vaporize, as well as various beam width settings ranging from a narrow beam to "wide-dispersal". I believe it was Riker who set a type-2 phaser to "level 16, wide-dispersal" expecting it to "vaporize half this building" in some kind of dream state. A possessed Tuvok used one of these to stun everyone else on Voyager's bridge in one blast (thank you for pointing out the Siege of AR-558, terribly written episode).
@BigSunday512
@BigSunday512 5 жыл бұрын
This may have been commented on since I'm so late but the phaser beam does change color when they change frequency well at least the Enterprise beams do. See best of both worlds when the enterprise encounters the borg. Cmdr Shelby tells data to re-modulate the phasers you can see it change colors from red to blue even green.
@emperorconstantine1.361
@emperorconstantine1.361 5 жыл бұрын
From what I understand, phasers burn their targets like a microwave but more advanced. Disrupters I think damage and interrupt the electric synapses and nervous system of a being... In the simpler format, (I am open to say I might be definitely wrong in how it works.)
@MattDeckard
@MattDeckard 6 жыл бұрын
What do you think of the ships phasers as seen in Star Trek II, the visceral pulse ish ones
@larqven0192
@larqven0192 5 жыл бұрын
I would expect that phasers were always tools as well as weapons. The big phaser used on Talos would seem to be a tool more than weapon. Like many or most tools, it might well be used as one, of course. Plus, I feel an homage was made in Enterprise in the "Terra Prime" arc when a very similar phaser setup as used in "The Cage" was seen used on the Luna mining colony. Hence, with that in mind, the big phaser gun from "The Cage" probably WAS a cutting tool used for geologic surveys?
@edtacey2257
@edtacey2257 6 жыл бұрын
Giving a handheld weapon the ability to disintegrate a building in one shot is just stupidly overpowered, I don't blame the writers for not using that in the DS9 battles. It wouldn't make for a good battle scene and I guess they realised that it is just ridiculous.
@10HERBERT
@10HERBERT 6 жыл бұрын
in the Star Trek The next generation technical manual there's three. type 1 is the small hand phaser. (8 setting's) type 2 is the larger hand phaser (16 setting's) and type 3 the phaser rifle, (16 settings).settings 1,2 3 are stun settings setting 1 is 15 minutes on most life forms setting 3 its one hour. at highest settings, phasers only have a few shots ( 8 or less.) and have to cool down for 30 sec's to a minute.between shots. setting higher than 6 will kill most life forms. setting 9 and higher will vaporizes most life forms.
@pottierkurt1702
@pottierkurt1702 5 жыл бұрын
The recoil of any of those weapons would rip your arm of and create a sonic boom. For real because .. science
@skyborne80
@skyborne80 6 жыл бұрын
3:34 O.........M.........G........!!! Perfectly placed Sesame Street Count reference. I love it!
@Jarsia
@Jarsia 5 жыл бұрын
4:47 actually in BoBW you do see the enterprise's phaser shots vary in color, as well as the handheld phasers used when boarding the cube to get picard back. The abandoned that detail after that however
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 5 жыл бұрын
Not in subsequent movies/series
@Jarsia
@Jarsia 5 жыл бұрын
well yeah, thats what I said. After BoBW they got lazy on that detail
@FennecTECH
@FennecTECH 6 жыл бұрын
Reollimate sounds like it is keeping the beam from dispersing. From the word collimating wich means to make the rays or particles accurately parallel It sounds like the radiation causes the phaser beam to disperse.
@cwam1701e
@cwam1701e 5 жыл бұрын
I think - but have never been sure - that the phaser you show throughout most of this video is the type 2 phaser; the type 1 is actually part of the type 2; it is the removable black rectangular part with the silver strip that is set into the blue-grey part. Taken out on it's own it was less powerful hence type 1 but when connected to the rest it is more powerful and hence type 2. Then, as you say, the phaser rifle is type 3. I think! Interestingly (well, interesting to me!), this two-part arrangement was carried right through to the Assault phaser that was used in (deep breath!) Star Trek V. At one point I owned a prop replica of this and it had, indeed, a removable "type 1" style phaser that was much smaller than the full size "type 2" style unit.
@nathan1111111000
@nathan1111111000 6 жыл бұрын
I think that with the level of technology that the federation has, projectile weapons would be very effective. With our current level of technology we can make petty advanced weapons like the grenade shotgun rounds or the tazzer shotgun rounds. With replicators it would that there would be very few limitations to what could be made.
@matthewegan5281
@matthewegan5281 6 жыл бұрын
I figure phasers beat out bullets for one main reason: -censorship- weight. If you care about the mass of a ship in space situations, which, I mean, let's face it, you probably do, space flight is expensive, a single battery cell which can store 100 "blasts" is going to be better than a magazine from a bulky assault rifle. And even after space flight got cheap enough for a gun to theoretically come back, a phaser would still be cheaper for mass production.
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 5 жыл бұрын
Was that a Micromachines Borg Cube? Nice...I bought several sets of the MM Star Trek tng, tos & and movie toys when they were new...didn't keep them in their boxes though...I played with them. The amount of accurate canon detail was spectacular for their tiny scale. The ToS Enterprise looked fantastic/hilarious when put into the mouth of a Jurassic Park(tm) T-Rex dino-damage toy. As for phaser settings and canon inconsistencies...it's amazing the Enterprise could set it's ships phasers to stun(as used in "A Piece of the Action")...gotta wonder if some stray alley cats got stunned in the process? When a phaser gets shot at a stone wall & the wall disappears, what happened to the matter? I'd think there would be some major residual radiation in the area for quite some time... I could expand on this subject for an entire book over 300 pages long, but I'll leave it for now, seem as I have yet to suscribe and nobody will see this comment on a video several months old anyhow. :(
@rangerjima
@rangerjima 6 жыл бұрын
I know in a few episodes of the TOS they use the phasers to heat rocks to help them during cold nights.
@commanderkruge
@commanderkruge 6 жыл бұрын
It's in the episode with the transporter malfunction that doubles Kirk into Evil Kirk and Lame Kirk. they can't beam up the rest of the landing party until the transporter is fixed, obviously and beaming down stuff doesn't work either and for some reason a shuttle is out of the question as well. Since it's below freezing survival becomes an issue and they use the "heat up a rock"-seeting to stay alive.
@10HERBERT
@10HERBERT 6 жыл бұрын
Scotty used a phaser a few types to cut thru bulkhead walls in the show.
@TheAsvarduilProject
@TheAsvarduilProject 4 жыл бұрын
Lore Reloade: _"...which SIsko forgot about when fighting at the Siege of AR-558."_ Dude, the Sisko - supposedly a baseline human - was able to _successfully take on and defeat around a dozen Jem'Hadar_ - genetically enhanced super-soldiers - before one got smart and realized that you can't defeat The Sisko, you can only hope to contain him. The Sisko probably gave two shits about what phasers can and cannot do; his fists are ultimately more effective. The results speak for themselves.
@stardude2006
@stardude2006 5 жыл бұрын
Phaser = Phased Energy Rectification Laser = Light Amplification of stimulated emission of radiation Phasers are Much more powerful based upon energy output even in the vacuum of space.
@claytonhusted
@claytonhusted 6 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: The Phaser Rifle used by Shatner's Captain Kirk isn't actually a rifle.
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 6 жыл бұрын
O.O
@Derekloffin
@Derekloffin 6 жыл бұрын
I just go with RE-CALM-INNATE... close enough. Basically constantly reconstruct the column of the beam I'm guessing. In reality, fancy technobabble for the win!
@Jack29151
@Jack29151 6 жыл бұрын
it'd work like a plasma cutting torch or a heliarc welder. those utilize plasma too. the phaser in star trek is just a talking up of a ammonia/plasma Maser, those really exist. Gene roddenberry took some creative license with Maser technology and came up with a phaser. a Phaser, like a Maser would use some form of modulated microwave energy to create the plasma. so yeah the phaser was based on a real life machine. The United States military also uses particle beam and directed energy weapons that are very much like phasers. the point we're at now is they're the size of rail cars. as time goes on, they'll be miniaturized,
@CTLamp
@CTLamp 5 жыл бұрын
In Star Trek TOS they used phasers to blow the top off of the elevator/turbolift on the Talos home world in The Cage. I’d say that’s an example of phasers being used as a tool not a weapon.
@LoreReloaded
@LoreReloaded 5 жыл бұрын
They used a device designed as a weapon to do the work of a tool.. they also made phasers as tools first.. and weapons not.