I've only followed Zelph on the shelf for 2 years now, and seeing Tanner this clean-cut is weird!!! LOL
@shleyayanelay8 жыл бұрын
Why does the LDS church insist that its members not research their history?
@smhez47668 жыл бұрын
+Ashley Gleason Either you are woefully misinformed, or you know the truth and are purposefully asking a misleading question. Either way, the premise of your question is false. The LDS church does not insist that its members not research their history.
@wyominghorseman91728 жыл бұрын
+SMHEZ No, they don't insist they command you don't research anywhere but LDS.ORG propaganda.
@wyominghorseman91728 жыл бұрын
John Lee Take your meds johnny.
@wyominghorseman91728 жыл бұрын
John Lee LOL. Yup I hear you have to come off that crap gradually or go postal.
@wyominghorseman91728 жыл бұрын
John Lee We still love to bird hunt and have two great German Shorthair Pointers to hunt over.
@utah1335 жыл бұрын
Tanner has much better ex-mo hair now.
@faithfulforever63313 жыл бұрын
I liked his hair long.
@rogeratkinson5925 жыл бұрын
You can see that tons of genuine Mormons go out and investigate their doctrine and history. Then they find out it's all bunk, which makes them leave, I can't imagine how difficult it is to leave the LDS when it's all you know. My hat is off to people like Tanner.
@montieball48284 жыл бұрын
Ecclesiastes 9:5-6 New International Version (NIV) 5 For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. 6 Their love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun. My knowldge increased when I was aware of this..my study began..
@markhansen25828 жыл бұрын
Loved the interview. Seriously though, if these 2 squeaky clean perfect mormons can leave the church, ANYONE can. This gives me hope that people will continue to leave. Even the most mormon of the mormons.
@mariewilliams47538 жыл бұрын
+Mark Hansen These two are completely overboard. They should be gone. They have no sense of reality at all.
@mariewilliams47537 жыл бұрын
+Mark Hansen Says the guy that is as weird and gay as the guy in the video.
@ASMRyouVEGANyet3 жыл бұрын
@@johnlee1352 i was super Mormon and i left.
@slorinda3 жыл бұрын
The internet has been a very helpful tool in getting knowledge in people’s hands. It’s both helping get people out of cults as well as into cults, unfortunately.
@avayamm5 жыл бұрын
Im 16 almost 17 and ive grown up Mormon. I don't believe in the church anymore for the same reasons he mentioned. I hate that i didn't know about all the history growing up. I feel like it was hidden away from me and that wrong.
@Kman.5 жыл бұрын
*avayamms* If you've "grown up" Mormon, how do you get by and get this far without hearing of it? Are issues never brought up? Glazed over? A different narrative given to you as the truth? Have you not run into "anti" Mormon people that would have called your faith into question...like street preachers, those people who go to Manti to witness? Have you had no access to the internet, because obviously you're on it now. Please explain how *TRUTH* can escape you your entire life, *ESPECIALLY* that you've "grown up" a Mormon. Thx.
@mr.mcthicc10734 жыл бұрын
How are you doing a year later?
@AJ-et3vf3 жыл бұрын
@@Kman. severe whitewashing, deception, gaslighting, and obscurantism. You grow up not hearing about it for years and decades. And if you happen to read about some of these things on a limited scale, they wouldn't faze you much. I read "anti-mormon" material accidentally when I was pre-teen and it didn't mean much to me at the time. I only meaningfully found out the issues with the Church last year 2019 after decades of being in the Church.
@HaveaBiscuitt5 ай бұрын
Hope you’re doing well now
@kennethd.94365 жыл бұрын
I was totally a buzzkill to my MTC group too. I took the commandment of no “loud laughter” too seriously.
@kennethd.94365 жыл бұрын
“How did you infect Sammantha, and she in turn infect you?” 🤣
@klarity11118 жыл бұрын
I wish I could have found out when I was young like you that the church isn't true. I got my shocks in middle age. If the internet had been around when I was young, you can bet I would have left the church.
@kaplanfan24188 жыл бұрын
Same here, had I known would have left during my twenties, instead of forty three. ..
@klarity11118 жыл бұрын
it's amazing what the internet has done for our lives. I think of all the old faithful Mormons that I used to know. If they had lived in this time, the intelligent ones (and I knew many) would have left the Church. Many would have embraced another form of Christianity, but I can understand why some in bitter disillusionment would have abandoned religion.
@kaplanfan24188 жыл бұрын
+Klarity*11 Had my mother been made aware of the historical facts she would never have joined , I was bitterly disillusioned and my spiritual beliefs are in transition at this point not sure on the outcome at this moment in time...
@kaplanfan24188 жыл бұрын
+Klarity*11 Had my mother been made aware of the historical facts she would never have joined , I was bitterly disillusioned and my spiritual beliefs are in transition at this point not sure on the outcome at this moment in time...
@klarity11118 жыл бұрын
I still have a very deep faith in Jesus Christ, but I do not (yet) have a church.
@virtual_balboa7 жыл бұрын
I love all the mormon apologists in the comments. Thanks for the laughs.
@filminginportland16546 жыл бұрын
Xtian C. Lol yup. Not good ones, either. Then again who is? Can't defend the indefensible.
@misss45296 жыл бұрын
They are just brain washed. Feel sorry for them they are in a cult
@roychefets29056 жыл бұрын
Xtian C. ...I totally agree. Their desperate and convoluted apologies are a laugh riot.They know the whole religion is a scam but they are stuck with it. I hope they feel good when they tithe and give their hard earned money to a transparent hoax. lol.
@letsstartadialogueeh76925 жыл бұрын
Yo have you guys been in their cult? You don't know what you're talking about but I know your heart seems to be full of hate. Very nice 😊
@allim.59415 жыл бұрын
If you had a prospective guy who you like but says, “whatever you do, don’t google me. There are anti-me on the web, and just don’t believe a single person who says one word bad about me. Even if they have known me for years, and are actually related to me.” That would be a HUGE red flag.
@coltenboyd74886 жыл бұрын
This is so friggin true. The rules at byui drove me crazy for my three years of studying there, and I followed the stupid rules all the way up until my last year when they cut my major unannounced. It's a weird unique environment and it really can only be experienced there.
@handstandish9 жыл бұрын
Delightful. Watching from Australia. I absolutely love Mormon Stories. Great work John!
@loganb13257 жыл бұрын
Faith crisis starts at 50:00
@porterneidholdt14385 жыл бұрын
Thx
@kelleren48404 жыл бұрын
I was at 42:27 and was getting so stressed/almost needed to pause and take a break. Thanks for this!
@chanceewilkinson8 ай бұрын
I served at the same time as Tanner and yes it was crazy how many kids got baptized by the elders and me as a sister went after the men. We would get “fame” in the mission for lost baptism and even more “fame” if you baptized a man.
@djdalad Жыл бұрын
can't believe this was almost 8 years ago, and they are still making great content
@damonm33 жыл бұрын
Awww, tanner is so cute 😂. Just finished their update vid. I’m glad I watch that one first and then travel back in time to see how much change has occurred. These two have grown up into some very impressive adults. Real thinkers..I’m inspired to get smarter 😂🍻
@eyeofinnocence8 жыл бұрын
Tanner looks really familiar. he looks like he could've been one of the "poster boys" on banners throughout campus when I went there. maybe he was???
@epicderp61675 жыл бұрын
He looks like 5 guys in my ward lol
@23Revan847 жыл бұрын
I have to say I agree about the whole mission thing. It was about numbers, lessons, baptisms, etc etc. I got zero baptisms and I was happy because i did not guilt people but gave them agency to listen or not. It is totally different.
@anonymeg18595 жыл бұрын
My mission president was all about numbers as well. Not just for baptisms, but of the missionaries as well. They encouraged us to go out even if we were sick. The day that I found out my grandma had passed, I was in the house crying (p-day) and the assistants called because they had found out and instead of trying to comfort, they told me that my president and God would want me to go out and work anyways. As a convert of only about a year and a half at the time, I remember thinking, “this is all I was that whole time?” It was like peeling back the curtain in the wizard of oz. I never felt less cared about in my life than as a missionary.
@sandyavalos33055 жыл бұрын
John Lee stfu! Like seriously why are you so hateful? Either you are delusional or a big troll. And yes everyone is worth caring for Cos everyone was saved by Jesus Christ and we all deserve to be cared for.
@imoutbye7 жыл бұрын
Sad all these kids wasted their college years at BYU
@letsstartadialogueeh76925 жыл бұрын
Did they not get an education??
@Stevious075 жыл бұрын
BYU is actually a really good school. You just have to put up with stupid people who attend it...which is true of EVERY school
@Marenlauder15 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a sanitized education. I have a BA from there and feel it wasn’t enough.
@tracydoverspike52555 жыл бұрын
The used to teach that dinosaurs came from another planet! Their science is a bit off. Plus the idea that men get their own planet is also a bit off.
@leahsander54904 жыл бұрын
@@tracydoverspike5255 Just a bit. Mostly correct, just a tiny bit off xD
@sumnerbrent2 жыл бұрын
Wow, wow, wow! I love the section titles! This must be the work of Carah. I remember listening to this a long time ago. So nice to go back and see deeply into that mega length interview and be able to find the nuggets I'm looking for. Yah Carah!
@sumnerbrent2 жыл бұрын
OK, that's awesome! It's 7:20 in the morning on a Saturday and the MoSto crew noticed my comment. Do they ever sleep? Cool! So are you guys going back to section up the entire catalogue? I hope so because it makes me want to go back and re-explore it all.
@kevinoquist61947 жыл бұрын
My left ear really enjoyed this.
@srso46603 жыл бұрын
at least one of your ears enjoyed it, I didn't get any sound at all 😏
@saffronhammer77146 жыл бұрын
You guys are insightful, thoughtful and super cute. Haha! Also: How much you have evolved since 2015.
@jayanderson1474 жыл бұрын
My roommate and I did the math and assuming it takes about 50 seconds per baptism (in and out, fumbling to find hand grips, prayer, dunk) it would take about 159.54 years to baptize 1 billion people assuming you never stopped.
@strongallalong894 жыл бұрын
I’m 3 minutes in and Samantha looks so pissed to be there lol!
@widetubevision44238 жыл бұрын
I was annoyed by the way certain members in leadership roles who had treated new members in the church with contempt and derision. Also, I had started to question the book of Mormon too. Some of the pretentious members presumed that all new members had a sordid disgusting lifetsyle. I had no addictions at all. Except that I enjoyed drinking coffee and a can of Pepsi now and then. They all had this sanctimonious attitude towards single adult members who unemployed or earned a low income too.
@letsstartadialogueeh76925 жыл бұрын
That's what I disliked most. At school there was always the mormon table and this insincere love for others. There were great people, but a lot of people don't get it.
@Marenlauder15 жыл бұрын
Amen! It was like we might have cooties that would taint future children.
@sandyavalos33055 жыл бұрын
WideTubeVision4 oh my gosh Yass and then those snobby asss girls who have grown up in the church and would have their own click at church activities while the newer concert would be excluded
@mickthomas89833 жыл бұрын
Been watching John Dehlin's and Zelph on the Shelf's content for the past year after meeting some local Mormons. Love to you all. x
@clarencefields44997 жыл бұрын
omg I am leavingg
@mr.mcthicc10734 жыл бұрын
Where you at 2 years later?
@ASMRyouVEGANyet3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it feel so much better!
@zachbills81126 жыл бұрын
Saudi Arabia of Mormonism. Lol.
@Schu00862 ай бұрын
These fresh faced little wonders, it’s incredible to see how far they’ve come on their journeys since this.
@pt76048 жыл бұрын
You two are free! Remember also, the truth is your friend.
@SoIcanpostinblogs8 жыл бұрын
+M Jones What is the superior truth you have found over Mormonism?
@pt76048 жыл бұрын
Truth over deception.
@SoIcanpostinblogs8 жыл бұрын
+M Jones Still haven't answered my question. What is the superior truth you have discovered. If Mormonism is a false cult, what is the correct, superior truth you have found?
@pt76048 жыл бұрын
Steve Young Do you expect me to attempt to Reason with someone who cant Reason?
@SoIcanpostinblogs8 жыл бұрын
+M Jones Try me. I am open to what you have to say.
@kelleren48404 жыл бұрын
I'm soooooo glad you guys made it out. This video stressed me so much.
@mothermovementa4 жыл бұрын
Maybe at the end when I'm bearing my testimony😂😂😂😂
@tewtravelers95868 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Norman Bates was a Mormon. I kid. I kid.
@silvereagle49038 жыл бұрын
Ted Bundy was a Mormon.
@jimbosnoberger94202 жыл бұрын
My experience is that people in the church presented with church history really don't care about it and make excuses about Joseph Smith behavior.
@-loosechalk-7 жыл бұрын
All religious discussion aside, you're a handsome dude
@klarity11117 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what is happening to Generation Z? Someone on one forum I read says that 1000's are leaving. Is this true?
@lovebaileymarin7 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious that no one knew Dan Jones, I love it 😂
@traceylewis53765 жыл бұрын
I'm a member and I just learned who Dan Jones is. haha
@bethanynoakes7715 жыл бұрын
I have so many similarities to these two as a missionary and at byui. Thank you for sharing!
@jacobberman90425 жыл бұрын
Man, that guy in the blue shirt is so optimistic and happy, wish I could have that.
@seanettles6573 жыл бұрын
well, feel free to leave your own cult and denounce its disgusting ways and perhaps you could
@jessicatrump87 жыл бұрын
lds church in my hometown lost most of the member
@richardschiller78035 жыл бұрын
any day now he'll be able to sit on his hair
@Dan-friend.of.the.forest8 жыл бұрын
You kids and your internet. When I was young and curious, I had to make up my own anti Mormon doctrine. And if you wanted to get excommunicated, there was no namby pamby silliness like with John Dehlin. You had to have unmarried sex, or kill somebody. When I was a Priest, if you stuttered while blessing the sacrament, you started over from the very beginning and not just from the last sentence. I once witnessed a fellow Priest have a nervous breakdown after the sixth time starting over on the prayer. You kids today don't know how good you got it.
@strengtheningchurchcommitt39488 жыл бұрын
+Dan Hildreth Nope We do not baptize dead people it's all lie what gave you that idea? Joseph Smith only has one wife and was sealed to her only! These are all fabrications, your point of Jesus and Satan being brothers is crazy talk we LDS do not teach this nor believe it! That would be anti Christ talk!
@marenjenson67557 жыл бұрын
Dan when I was a member of the church, they always made the priests start over even if they stuttered.
@filminginportland16546 жыл бұрын
Maren Jenson Me too, I remember this clearly. We were told it was too important to mess up, as it had to be perfect. And one of the priests had a stuttering problem. For some reason, they thought it was a good idea to have him bless the sacrament often. Then again, there were only a few young men 12-18 in that branch. I swear, people don't realize that this brand of "attaining perfection" does indeed cause massive mental health problems and actual nervous breakdowns for people. As it's impossible to be perfect, but the bar is so high that for some, it causes very real problems when they can't attain it. And often it's over ridiculous stuff that shouldn't matter, not actual sins. Other times, it's over things you cannot choose, like with LGBT people. For them, often, leaving the church becomes the only viable option when it comes to mental health. Moreso for trans people than gay, but it still applies nonetheless, as even being celibate, you're an outsider. You're not like everyone else, and constantly struggle with just wanting to live your life. The struggle is very real, and rarely discussed *within* the culture. It's always "pray and have faith," "follow the commandments," etc but none of that will fix many of these issues. Issues that shouldn't even be issues.
@juiceman36685 жыл бұрын
The honor code sounds insane
@anaruiz60363 жыл бұрын
Tanner and Sam look like babies 😍 tanners hair though 😇😂
@coryklein9 жыл бұрын
Aghh I can't stand the sound only coming out of the speaker on my left ear!
@coryklein9 жыл бұрын
Okay, the podcast audio works. So - download the podcast, play in a separate tab, mute the KZfaq video, and try to hit play at exactly the same time.
@dan99483 жыл бұрын
IDK, I had professor there that gave us a take-home mid-term test with strict rules about timing and breaks etc, who later emailed the entire class that "I know some of you cheated" and that he will tell everyone's bishops. I call that an abuse of an "honor code"
@jessicatrump87 жыл бұрын
he sings so well
@javiersanabria75135 жыл бұрын
Byu Idaho sounds like a nightmare. Who the hell has a curfew when they're in college. That's bullshit. It would be a nightmare to try to date a girl if you are going to that school no thanks.
@letsstartadialogueeh76925 жыл бұрын
Bruh it's a private school. That can happen. They want college to be about education.
@lloydgrubham63694 жыл бұрын
Audio balance is unlistenable on headphones.
@do6the5cool7wip2 жыл бұрын
"I'm taller than Tanner... " Lol
@11UncleBooker229 жыл бұрын
YESSSSssssssss........1st. please understand, this is all I have.
@campampates9 жыл бұрын
looooool.
@EricSmyth4Christ9 жыл бұрын
+John Booker Haha, easy vid though, try getting first on a more competitive video.
@11UncleBooker229 жыл бұрын
EricSmyth14 YEAAAAaaaaaa !!!!! .....thanks man, you've helped me find a goal. I'M OFF
@EricSmyth4Christ9 жыл бұрын
John Booker LOL... You are so weird dude. (Not in a bad way)
@11UncleBooker229 жыл бұрын
EricSmyth14 your reply was sent at 4:20? really Sir?,really? lol
@zachbills81126 жыл бұрын
BYU sounds just like Islam with clerics issuing fatwas. Not enough people compare the cultures of those religions.
@jessicatrump87 жыл бұрын
just like me, I listen to hymns, I feel overwhelming!
@darger32 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Tanner my squeaky clean Mo.
@maymayrays3 жыл бұрын
They’re all but babes!! 😭🖤 I’m an atheist, born and raised, but I just love these three 👏🏼🎉
@forgetmenotasmr59093 жыл бұрын
4:45 after watching Zelph on the Shelfs newer more recent content, this part was hard to hear.💔💕
@sarehess6 жыл бұрын
I had a completely different experience at BYUI. I’m still living in Rexburg and it’s still such a different experience.
@andrwplsn5 жыл бұрын
Also went to byui. Was not a good place for me mentally.
@Avia20235 жыл бұрын
I really love you guys🖤🖤
@octoplasma27 жыл бұрын
I'm like 90% sure she was in my ward at the I. Small world
@kylehedden7475 жыл бұрын
Archaeology does show ancient sophisticated building were made during/ around the times that take place in the book of mormon
@CrustyRusty3665 жыл бұрын
And? People lived on earth at that time. Why does this make the Book of Mormon true?
@markh.harris92714 жыл бұрын
audio left channel only is terrible... would be best to recast just balance the two channels mono
@zm3248 Жыл бұрын
The stuff he’s saying about missions is true. Priestcraft the max for a church who wrote preach my gospel and wants the Holy Ghost to convert.
@sethhaupt88 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of that zoo pals infomercial
@armchairjudge8 жыл бұрын
THis kids looks so Mormonish, but sounds like a good person. The girls didn't get much time to talk, did she?
@denisebennett12062 жыл бұрын
We went to college together and he was an amazing person
@mattybond5 жыл бұрын
I still want that Elmo painting
@denisebennett12062 жыл бұрын
Tanner and I went to college together
@jessicatrump87 жыл бұрын
he is really joyful!
@robertburgess10916 жыл бұрын
A hippie went to Salt Lake and got LSD confused with LDS. He went on a mission instead of a trip!
@tekdro8 жыл бұрын
Despite how strong societal beliefs and biases were in olden times God would always have had the eternal knowledge and perspective to know as well as we know now that skin color is about as relevant a personal trait as hair or eye color, so why would white skin have EVER been a requirement to be eligible to attend the Mormon temple or be ordained to the priesthood? (Hint: It NEVER would have been. NOT EVER.)
@allim.59415 жыл бұрын
That is the whitest guy on earth, lol. Joseph Smith married Dan Jones’ wife too.
@stanleymaestas54416 жыл бұрын
people are tired of bishops asking personal sex questions and being forced to pay tithes for salvation
@carolhull88034 жыл бұрын
stanley maestas this is not true
@stanleymaestas54414 жыл бұрын
@@carolhull8803 fine by me if thats what u think
@joecook56893 жыл бұрын
Samantha is funny and cool. And john and tanner.
@jessicatrump87 жыл бұрын
this guy look so sweet!
@jeeperp3926 Жыл бұрын
It’s amazing how many people manage to leave the church, but can’t let go of it. Let it go folks. Let it go.
@brianking47046 жыл бұрын
My testimony part two I began searching for a Church which taught we are saved by Christ's grace through faith and where saving faith is a verb not a noun nor a one time event. I continued reading and studying my scriptures. In John the Bible proclaims " in the beginning was the word" ; the Bible also testifies " there is one Lord, one faith, and one baptism, " . All of these Christian Churches teaching opposing interpretations could not all be correct nor true. It is a factual impossibility . Christ said " I am the way, the truth , and the life" . I was 28 and working as a salesman. I visited hundreds of homes biweekly selling food. A few of the families began to stand out to me. They demonstrated the fruits of righteousness, of following Christ. No drinking alcohol, no smoking, purity until marriage, education was stressed ,no cussing nor inappropriate movies , keeping the Lord's day Holy, tithing, strong families built on love and Christ's teachings. Finally, I asked each family ,one after the other what there secret was? Each of them were Mormon families. Impossible, I thought ! I was taught by Catholics and Baptists the Mormon Church was a cult ! How could a cult demonstrate the fruits of righteousness? It didn't make sense. I like to study religions so asked how I could learn more about there faith and Church? They were excited to say the least. They set me up with a couple of their Missionaries . In our first meeting they taught me about Joseph Smith and his first vision where he saw Jesus Christ standing on the right hand of His Father. Two separate personages . Jesus was in the express image of His Father as Hebrews declares. To my surprise I had no problem with what they were teaching . I felt at peace. After all Stephan ,when he was being stoned ,looked up and saw Jesus standing on the right hand of the power on high. Moses spoke to the Lord face to face as a man speaks to a friend. Jesus said he would be on the right hand of the Father in eternity. The Bible declares God is the same yesterday, today, and forever and God is not the author of confusion. This vision was brought about by Joseph Smith reading in the Bible from James 1 vs 5 " if any of you lack wisdom let him ask of God who giveth to all men liberally and upbraideth not but let him ask in faith and it shall be given him." Ask God directly, having faith in Christ , amazing! God keeps His promises!! Right! Then it happened . The Elders said they were glad I was soaking up what they were teaching but I needed to gain a Spirit born testimony . Simply deciding the LDS Church was true was not enough . They showed me in the back of the Book of Mormon a similar promise from God as was-in James. It said to study the Book of Mormon and then ask Heavenly Father , having faith in Christ , with real intent , if the words of the book are true and through the power of the Holy Spirit I would know it was true directly from God. They said I could know the truth of all things through the Holy Spirit. The Bible proclaims this and so does the Book of Mormon. I could know all of the Churches teachings were true using God's system. I had never been taught in the Catholic nor the Baptist Churches I could take their interpretations directly to God and through the power of the Holy Ghost I would know they were true. In fact I was taught an objective process instead of a subjective process. I was determined to place my faith directly in Heavenly Father , having faith in Christ. I was about half way through the Book of Mormon when God answered my sincere prayers. I had been fasting and praying with real intent . All of the sudden my soul was filled with the most divine feeling of God's love and God did brand His truth on my heart. God's presence poured down upon me and was within me. As Jeremiah described ,the word of the God was as fire in my bones. I knew the Book of Mormon was true . I knew Joseph Smith was a Prophet . I knew the LDS Church was true. As sure as Moses's experience with the burning bush and the great I AM . I knew and will always know. The Holy Ghost testified to me with power and love. I have since come across another scripture in the Bible commanding us to go directly to God for our testimonies. Isaiah 8 vs 19-20 Should not a people go to their God ? For the living to the dead ? To the law and the testimony ? If they teach not this it is because there is no light in them. Brothers and sisters I testify to you " the LDS Church is true, the Book of Mormon is God's word as is the Bible; as long as it is interpreted correctly, Joseph Smith was a Prophet called of God and Christ Church is led by a Prophet today, I testify marriage can be forever as families can be forever, procreation can be forever. God did not command you get married and be fruitful and multiply to take this most wonderful blessing from you at death. God hates divorce . Why would He divorce everyone? I testify Heavenly Father lives and loves you ! Jesus is the Christ! He lives and loves you ! They promise to answer your sincere prayer . "Saved by grace through faith " I leave my testimony with you in the name of Jesus Christ ! Amen The Wilder family and most of the other x Mormon's simply never had the humility nor faith to gain a Spirit born testimony of the LDS Church nor of the Book of Mormon. They , like many other Mormon's who grow up in the LDS Church ,assume they have a Spirit born testimony without ever fasting and praying and gaining one. They never really understood Christ's atonement and continue not to understand it to this day. "We are saved by Christ's grace through faith" . We do our best to keep God's commandments all of the time and draw closer to Him through our obedience and Christ saves us all the while as we seek to live after the Spirit and not the flesh. Christ did not suffer so horribly to change God's commandments into mere nice ideas we can pick and choose from. Our relationship with Christ has everything to do with what we do for Him and what He does for us as we walk hand in hand. God's commandments are His plan for our happiness . Fast and pray and you can know this is true through the Spirit of truth. You can know the truth of all things through His Spirit of truth. The Spirit testifies with love and power. You will know , not merely believe. Love y'all !!!
@OnBelayClimbOn5 жыл бұрын
Your audio is mono not stereo
@blessingbutler4 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/sun/RDQ9TZzqoL6MA
@verdew81818 жыл бұрын
The sound track isn't working.
@andreadiamond71156 жыл бұрын
The stereo isn’t working,
@kevinhullinger87433 жыл бұрын
When you teach that the Bible is not fully true and cast doubt. What are Mormons to do that leave the true church once they find out it’s false?
@jerrygrover30268 жыл бұрын
For an interesting proposed translation of the Caractors document a free copy can be accessed at www.bookofmormoncaractorstranslation.com
@TruthHasSpoken7 жыл бұрын
How does one know and trust that ALL 27 books of the New Testament are God's Written Word, and that no books have been left out the are (out of 200+ early Christian writings) ?
@dodgerdave777channel6 жыл бұрын
TruthHasSpoken how does one ever believe in a god a mass murders his own children condones human sacrifice and rape of prisoners of War which was a war of aggression to start off with reading Numbers chapter 31 read the Edge of Reason by Thomas Paine find it on sacred texts.....for free...... Seminary & Salvation Important information for every LDS Youth & parent valuing truth & free agency kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hct4qsin17SRdmQ.html Watch "A response to the Book of Mormon in 8 minutes video from Brother Fulmer narrated by Ethan and Naomi" on KZfaq kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ppqdpLN1yM_IgIE.html Awesome anti Mormons speak on fictional origins of Book of Mormon kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i5ilf6Z-zq67ZXk.html The 1st Vision : Joseph Smith's 9 Versions on lds. org..as a Narrative? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbiSfLF1rp7JgJ8.html This Mormon Truth Video proves the LDS scriptures, right on lds.org kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rrSknaR80sjFZKs.html Mormon Race & Truthfulness Issues in lds.org Gospel Topics Essay with the way of the Mister Mr Deity kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gc1zjNCC0q-YqGw.html Unveiling the mystery of Secret Mormon History kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrSpg5p608mVd4U.html Examining the Theology of the Plan of Salvation for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qeCepNWJxtG3qWQ.html
@DIEKDSE8 жыл бұрын
Mormons - Multiple wives but no beer I dont have a religion so i can have multiple wives + beer . I won
@Wicket_784 жыл бұрын
Flagstaff represent!
@KandisSJGroup7 жыл бұрын
You need to put the link in the description. Just a thought...
@barbwelch25275 жыл бұрын
What is your purpose in baptism. In the Christian tradition that is a serious committment to Christ and there must be descipleship and learning that follows the baptism.
@jessicatrump87 жыл бұрын
the left side guy looks cool!
@brianking47046 жыл бұрын
My testimony part one I would love to share my testimony with you. I was raised in a good Catholic home with nine brothers and five sisters. Lol Attended private Catholic schools from first grade to twelfth . Went to mass six days a week . I was taught about my Savior Jesus Christ and the mysterious trinity. God as one physical being but three separate persons at the same time. Taught not to self study the Bible but to follow the counsel of our priests and nuns . I had a nice childhood in a loving family. I loved God and my family. I was taught the power of prayer and faith in Christ. At eighteen I began working at an oak furniture company. One of my friends and work mates was a youth pastor at a Baptist Church. We began to discuss our faiths for hours at a time. He had a big advantage. I was taught as a Catholic the Bible was the word of God but did not study it on my own. I began studying the New Testament, reading it over and over. I read when Mary called Jesus her Savior. The Bible proclaimed she has more children and Jesus brother was one of his followers. In Timothy I read the main requirement for a man to be a Bishop in the original Church was for him to be a good husband and father. Then later in Timothy I read in latter days there would be doctrines of devils; forbidding men to marry and to abstain from certain meats. The most troubling was when the Lord commanded us not to pray in vain repetition. To make a long story short ,I left the Catholic Church and began to attend a Baptist Church. I gave my life to the Lord and was "saved". I was baptized a few days later. I was hungry . Feasting on the words of Christ . Studying the entire Old Testament a couple of times and the New Testament several times. One Sunday our Pastor taught the doctrine of eternal security . We are saved by believing what Christ did alone and not by anything we do personally. Once "saved "we could not lose our salvation. There was nothing we could do or not do after this event where we could lose our eternal salvation. Ephesians 2 vs 8-9 was the primary scriptures shared. " for by grace are ye saved through faith, not of yourselves, it is the gift of God . Not of works, lest any man should boast. " hmmmmm I was puzzled. I asked after Church if he could meet with me. He agreed. I asked if the core Evangelical doctrine was we are saved by believing in what Christ did on the cross alone and not by anything we do? He said yes. I asked if we are saved by grace alone and not by what we do? He said yes. Hmmmmmm . I then asked, do we have to have faith to be saved ? He said yes,faith in Christ and His finished work on the cross. Hmmmmm. My next question was " is believing in Christ an action? " He said yes. Do you have to repent of your sins in order to be saved? He said yes. Do you have to accept Jesus as your Savior to be saved? He responded yes. Are these all things we must do in order to be saved? I thought you were not saved by anything you do and yet you are telling me there are indeed things I must do in order to be saved? I testified to him that faith in Christ is something you do. Christ grace is a gift which none of us can provide but faith is our part of the salvation equation and is in itself an action or something a person does. He proclaimed it is an action but not a work. I proclaimed tomato, tomoto! The core Evangelical doctrine is we are saved by grace through faith and not by anything we do? You don't even believe this yourself for you are saying there are indeed things we must do in order to be saved. We both know faith in Christ in itself is an action. The core doctrine of the Evangelical churches had fallen apart right before my eyes. I then asked him if the Bible was the inerrant word of God ? He said yes. I then showed him several scriptures in the Bible which testified you must be baptized by both water and the Spirit to be saved. I then showed him several scriptures which testified you must endure to the end to be saved. I showed him scripture after scripture which testified you must follow Christ and be a doer of the word and not just a hearer. I testified to him we are indeed saved by grace through faith but faith is an action. Our relationship with Christ has everything to do with our actions . A couple doesn't have a successful marriage by simply saying " I do " at the alter. Our relationship with Christ is the same. " if you love me, keep my commandments" . Christ does not save us in our sins , He saves us from our sins as we walk with Him in a covenant relationship . Christ did not die so horribly to become an instrument for sin. The doctrine of eternal security makes his sacrifice an instrument for sin when you proclaim your faith in Christ has nothing to do with anything we do. He was perplexed. I then said you do believe we are saved by what we do, you simply believe there are less things you have to do . We all know lots of people who are proclaiming Christians who live to the flesh and not to the Spirit. When confronted they simply say , " I was saved when I was six, nine , fourteen, twenty two, fifty , etc... I have nothing to worry about " the teaching of once saved always saved allows for this . Christ's atonement exploited. I then asked him if he thought God would hold him accountable for these souls? Won't they testify against you on judgement day when you stand in front of God? Our meeting ended.
@molassesninja5 жыл бұрын
why is there no sound?? is it just me all the other videos are working
@armchairjudge7 жыл бұрын
People leave churches all the time. For everyone that leaves, another one joins and the cycles goes on. I doubt it is losing the millennial generation, but it is losing some millennials.
@juiceman36685 жыл бұрын
armchairjudge the ones that think for themselves leave.
@anthonydonatelli59066 жыл бұрын
L = audio 100% CENTER= 0% R= 0%
@luvmorrisey205 жыл бұрын
Barely on 7:31 and already feel sad.
@vidalsoberon59918 жыл бұрын
Mormon Stories? What about Brainwashed Tales.
@vidalsoberon59918 жыл бұрын
Thank you...
@011chacha8 жыл бұрын
👌👏👏👏👍 yep
@vidalsoberon59918 жыл бұрын
Thanks...
@vidalsoberon59918 жыл бұрын
All religious nuts are brainwashed.
@Kman.5 жыл бұрын
How do you get that far along in being a Mormon w/o having heard about blacks and the priesthood, the polygamy and such with Joseph Smith and other damning issues? I mean, the guy by his own admission was *BATHED* in Mormon teachings his entire upbringing, yet these things didn't come to light till he was in *COLLEGE* ? Especially in the age in which we live w/technology. Do most Mormons take what is spoon fed to them as the sole truth and they never even desire to learn things independently?
@jayanderson1474 жыл бұрын
It was a lot more hidden in the nineties. When the internet became better and more widespread, the church was forced to open up and make a lot of excuses as all their dirty laundry suddenly caught up. Plus, that's not exactly the kind of thing people like to talk about. In seminary they teach you to seek truth from "divine sources" -- if it's antimormon its untruthful and motivated by SATAN, so he probably didn't feel comfortable looking at outside sources.
@jacksonthedoggy2 жыл бұрын
It’s a cult, they are super good at hiding things. They tell you if you read, watch, listen to things critical of the church you’re inviting satin into your life.
@Kman.2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonthedoggy Bbb-uuut, the *INTERNET.*
@jacksonthedoggy2 жыл бұрын
@@Kman. I know, I know. But if you see something critical about the Church you are taught that if you consume that content you’re inviting Satin into your life. True story, when I was nine I went to a sleep over with some older girls in the neighborhood, they weren’t members of the church and wanted to watch a scary, R rated movie - I knew I shouldn’t but I so wanted to fit in with these older cool kids that I went along with it. A few days later my baby brother, who was 8 months old, got very sick from spinal meningitis & almost died. I spent years thinking that it was my fault for watching the movie. That I had invited Satin & evil into my life and almost got my brother killed. The Church really mess with your head.
@Kman.2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksonthedoggy I don't doubt you for a moment, and those SAME things happen with those leaving OTHER cults/cultish churches that mask themselves as Christian.
@Cryptosifu6 жыл бұрын
King Follet did it for me
@pangaious8 жыл бұрын
what a minute, as far as I know, Flafstaff, AZ is a Mormon town. So, why is this young man saying that they were a minority there?
@pangaious8 жыл бұрын
OK; thanks for the clarification. It is located in northern Arizona and a yellow pages of there, under churches, will reveal that most of the are LDS churches. but, I understand what you mean. Perhaps it is near there that is is so and not in the middle of town itself.
@fanafofolelblandblo79766 жыл бұрын
Pedro Rodriguez I don't think Flagstaff is.. wealthier place.. More libs.. Less Mormons. I LOVE Flagstaff. I wish I could afford to live there.!
@nancygerke16483 жыл бұрын
sitting too close together
@scottchi6664 жыл бұрын
None of this has anything to do with gospel of Jesus Christ. You dont become a christian because you want to or parents want you to... John 1:13 NASBS who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.