I’m not taking anything 1/9 says seriously concerning the game of basketball
@matttheknicksfan5 ай бұрын
you cant be the GOAT when your GOAT case is more about why you couldnt win than when you actually won
@quadexes5 ай бұрын
can’t you be the goat if you surpass everyone in a certain skill or aspect of basketball though?
@matttheknicksfan5 ай бұрын
@@quadexes not to me, especially cuz kobe and mike are more skilled than him but we all weigh things differently. its a catastrophe that a player of that magnitude lost 6 nba finals. at worst he's the 3rd best to ever do it, yet im supposed to believe he was just helpless every time he lost? and im supposed to believe regular season stats from the backend of his career makes up for it? i cant do it. he's averaged 25ppg plenty of times, 4x mvp, 900x all nba, he needed those championships. it was easy enough in a weak east with a big 3 every year from 2011-2017. i respect his game, i respect the longevity, im a fan for sure, but i cant gloss over the finals outside of 2007 and 2018
@baronn98093 ай бұрын
@@matttheknicksfanKobe is a chucker stop it
@Comicedits392 ай бұрын
@@matttheknicksfanok let’s not, Id rather go to 10 Finals And win 4, then only go to 6 finals, Lebron has faced way harder comp in the finals, you Take the KD Warriors and they are washing any 90’s team by 40
@DonyeWhite8 күн бұрын
@@Comicedits39so you would rather win 4 than 6? Dumbest thing I’ve heard
@rushjude10265 ай бұрын
Los Might have the worse takes than flight
@LSUHutz5 ай бұрын
brother prime steve nash is for sure a starter in todays nba
@FlukasGlazyMMA5 ай бұрын
Ok but he’s not an all star in todays game. He could start for some teams I guess.
@thegoat-sg5hg5 ай бұрын
He could only start for the pistons or wizards
@ayeitzwoolz19685 ай бұрын
Steve Nash is definitely an exception but he had more of a game that's suited to the NBA today great 3 hunter and assist man
@tubbylemon5 ай бұрын
bro yall gotta be 15 years old or something. Not everything about basketball is about athleticism. Steve Nash IQ was off the charts as a point guard unmatched. He had a ball handle on a stick and he had a killer three point spot up. And cherry on top, his passing ability was amazing@@FlukasGlazyMMA
@eczotiic80265 ай бұрын
@@FlukasGlazyMMAhe’d definitely be an All Star in today’s game. He was a premier 50/40/90 guy and consistently dropping 15-18 ppg with double digit assists per game. As long as is he’s on a good team, he’s making at least a couple
@PurpleGengar8225 ай бұрын
Bron isn't the goat. To have a superteam and have a meltdown to the mavs makes him not the goat. People want to say jordan had Pippen and rodman and it was rigged. But when bron had bosh and wade and a better overall team than the bulls, he choked still.
@uppertroupe5 ай бұрын
“The difference between you and me is that they had to change the rules so l couldn't dominate. They changed the rules so that you could.” Wilt Imagine if they changed the rules for lebron.
@416joker75 ай бұрын
Yea and that same mavs team beat Okc with kd, russ, ibaka, and harden. Same team beat lakers kobe gasol bynum. Mavs was on a generational run. That championship solidified Dirks case as a HOF and probably one of the best PF’s ever.
@wetback15 ай бұрын
They played horrible opponents. We done with the 90s unc
@PurpleGengar8225 ай бұрын
@@wetback1 did you ever think that half the league currently wouldn't be able to get a shot off in the 90s? Yes everybody appears to be better but they aren't. They just can't be touched at all because of the rules.
@PurpleGengar8225 ай бұрын
@@416joker7 Meltdown against the Mavs while being on superteam is what keeps him from being the goat. Can't choke on a superteam. Imagine if KD didn't win a ring with the busted golden state team. And I mean at full health.
@jayyflako7245 ай бұрын
Los just proved his dads point when trying to dismiss Nash saying he’s from 20 years ago… Ya Nash was drafted in the 90s💀 This generation for sure has more talent but it’s not the same defense as before in the 90s that’s the difference Stockton would have a better career in today nba with the lack of defense
@justaw29825 ай бұрын
Stockton is worse than Steve Nash.
@8packbyjan2885 ай бұрын
LeBron is the greatest player of this era and most of that is to do with longevity, but I don't see how you can put him above a guy who did a lot more in less time. The people who try to give Bron that #1 spot main argument is to belittle Jordan's competition, but then proceed to still put him at 2 lmao.
@quadexes5 ай бұрын
because lebron is a better scorer, passer, rebounder, and you could argue defender. he has a better fg and 3pt percentage than jordan. easily better passer and rebounder and he can and has guarded positions 1-5 not even mentioning the clearly more skilled players he guarded that surpass anyone jordan has ever faced
@PervySage7235 ай бұрын
@@quadexesjordan averaged more points, more steals, same blocks, and actually has a dpoy in significantly less time. A dude from 40 years ago still outshines the most gifted player of this gen
@quadexes5 ай бұрын
@@PervySage723 Yeah the difference there is Jordan played Gary Payton, Jeff Hornaceck, John Stockton while Lebron has played Kevin Durant, Kawhi Leonard, etc. and jordan was putting up 30-40 shots a game😂 Lebron has only done that a handful of times in his long career and one of those times he dropped 60. Jordan also didn’t have to deal with the same help defense LeBron sees. Opponents had to come from the opposing block to defend an attacking player. Lebron is the only player to average a triple double in the NBA Finals, no not even jordan. You could also mention how Jordan had one of the best two way players of all time for 6 years of career. Lebron also shoots higher fg, and 3pt percentage and has a higher percentage in “clutch time”. Just stating facts
@PervySage7235 ай бұрын
@@quadexes youre leaving out many players from jordans era and have almost no others left to mention for lebron
@quadexes5 ай бұрын
@@PervySage723 Tim Duncan, Dirk, Giannis, James Harden, Paul Pierce, D Rose, Tatum, Lillard, Chris Paul, Melo
@donniro59625 ай бұрын
All imma say is, how can you be the goat is you have a losing record in the finals. Imagine if Tom Brady was 3-7 in Super Bowls. He wouldn't be the goat
@rajam60525 ай бұрын
Well he is 2nd good enough
@ryda3k5 ай бұрын
i believe jordan the goat but saying that because lebron has made it to the finals so many times with sub par teams compared to his compete for in the finals, it is somehow bad for his goat case for him to make it to the finals so many years in a row
@PurpleGengar8225 ай бұрын
Meltdown against the Mavs while being on superteam is what keeps him from being the goat. Can't choke on a superteam. Imagine if KD didn't win a ring with the busted golden state team. And I mean at full health.
@rajam60525 ай бұрын
@@PurpleGengar822 it was basically impossible for kd to choke m8 if u saw Harrison Barnes in 2016 finals so don't bring that up they lost it by 4 points when Curry was so bad so don't try that pls giv a better example lebron to the heat was much more important than kd to the warriors
@PurpleGengar8225 ай бұрын
@@rajam6052 you're missing my point. They both joined a super team. Only one guy had an embarrassing performance on that team in a series and lost. The other guy didn't. He's out of the goat conversation because of that.
@jackyc56745 ай бұрын
If you had a time machine, and took 1998 john stockton and put him on a court with nba players today who have 30 years of advancements in technology, training and in the game of basketball, obviously he would get destroyed. thats common sense. Thats why you cant compare eras though. You could say the same thing about literally any sport.
@zay_dif5 ай бұрын
Exactly
@quadexes5 ай бұрын
Yes that’s why Lebron will always a be a better player than Jordan
@jackyc56745 ай бұрын
@@quadexes You missed the point but ok
@SanninObito5 ай бұрын
Bro streams like twice a month and comes back just to yap
@scottsheeron12145 ай бұрын
Conversations like this is why I call Kobe the goat…. Won when defense was the epitome of basketball and did it easily. Then adapted to the new era and won again
@wetback15 ай бұрын
He’s not top 5
@Trv1y5 ай бұрын
Buddy said Kobe 💀
@JasoF4ygo4 ай бұрын
stockton wouldnt even make a g league team in todays nba thats just facts if you like it or not
@Sicwkskxkckckzd5 ай бұрын
@LosPollosTV EXTRA idk if uk los but can u get permission from him to stream his streams live on here !
@cjfaulkner52745 ай бұрын
Such a useless debate
@DenGual105 ай бұрын
did he get 95 percent of his dna from his father?
@bloc3885 ай бұрын
John Stockton is a better Chris Paul😭I’m pretty sure he could start ona team like Houston or Detroit or even wit the hornets ,just cause some of those kids are more athletic doesn’t mean they’re better basketball players😭
@Grievous_3 ай бұрын
I hate how Lebron fans bring up how Jordan was worse at than 3’s than Lebron is, my dad always tells me, Jordan only took 3’s when HE NEEDED TO or when the 3 was there, an ex. of that is when he was wide open, but Jordan probably barely trained and practiced to shoot the 3 ball, in today’s Nba he’d OBVIOUSLY practice and train to be a great 3 point shooter, and I believe if Jordan played in today’s game, he’d be a phenomenal 3 point shooter probably taking like 5 or 6 a game on 40% so yes Jordan had NO FLAWS!!!!! He can score, pass, rebound, defend, shoot, dunk, and handle/dribble the ball just go watch the highlights!!!!!! Everything you need to see, is there!!!!!
@christopherking49325 ай бұрын
Hilarious 😂
@JasoF4ygo4 ай бұрын
lebrons the goat if you like it or not. hes clearly more skilled and played in a harder era
@JasoF4ygo4 ай бұрын
JAYLEN BROWN WOULD AVERAGE 60PPG IN THE 90S. STOP IT WITH THIS SALTY OLD HEAD TAKES
@google_it29775 ай бұрын
Lebron is the better overall player, but Jordan is the GREATEST. Theres a difference.
@Texan4lifee5 ай бұрын
There’s a lot of bias in the “greatest” title tho
@Dopamine2x5 ай бұрын
Perfect example of jordan fans running out of things to say
@leofranco71585 ай бұрын
How can you be the better overall player and not be the greatest…? That makes him the greatest, he can do it all better than anyone else
@Hambone2k5 ай бұрын
jordan is better and greater y'all just biased bron fans
@christopherking49325 ай бұрын
Nerds are constantly typing there idiotic opinions and still can't realize how irrelevant they are.
@ethan767085 ай бұрын
Yet Los will tell u magic is better then Steph hypocrite….. How is Jordan overrated Los he is widely considered the greatest athlete in sports history his resume speaks for itself most people in real life who know basketball would agree with this except the internet who is full of losers Lebron is 2nd. U can’t compare eras because athletes constantly get better u can only judge players against their contemporaries and Jordan was more dominant even in the 80s as a individual player
@quadexes5 ай бұрын
Jordan is overrated because he played in a weak era, also help defense was not allowed while he played. Also jordan had one of the greatest coaches of all time. Jordan also never had a season above .500 without Scottie.
@OneAccount-eo9mh5 ай бұрын
Y he got nothing in his cup but acting like he do tho 😂😂wtf
@JBFBITCH5 ай бұрын
Tim Duncan wouldn’t make it in today’s NBA yet nobody wants to talk about it.