LOST EXPLAINED PART 29 - GOOD vs EVIL

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LOST EXPLAINED

LOST EXPLAINED

2 жыл бұрын

#LostExplained #LeaveNoQuestionUnanswered
The twenty-ninth (and penultimate!) chapter in a series of LOST EXPLAINED videos that investigate the mythology and mysteries from the seminal television series LOST. These definitive explanations are based on multiple viewings of the show over the years and careful studying of the details, clues, inconsistencies and contradictions that make up the complex tapestry of what is the greatest television show from the 2000s.
Chapter Twenty-Nine is an exploration of a core theme of the series: the nature of good and evil. What is good and what is evil? Are Jacob and the Man in Black literal embodiments of these things? Where does that leave our morally ambiguous characters, such as Ben, Locke, and Sayid? Does LOST have an ethos regarding them and their actions? If so, what is it? Other mysteries explained will include who was really responsible for Nadia's death; whether or not the temple waters actually turned Sayid "evil"; the likely instructions that Taller Ghost Walt gave Locke about the freighter folk; what Richard meant about Young Ben losing his innocence if he was healed in the spring; and the key motivation behind Jacob's game with the Man in Black.
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@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Ай бұрын
*ATTENTION! For viewers who take issue with the text-to-speech voice* All of these older videos have been entirely revoiced and remade in better quality (and feature A LOT more detail). They have been combined together as part of a six part video series called The Theory of Everything, which you can watch here: kzfaq.info/sun/PL5iTj9psbPrNovFOg4pJJIyxiLAv2WAKB Namaste! 🙏
@mavis8933
@mavis8933 2 жыл бұрын
One day this channel will receive love that it deserves, I will be waiting for that moment, hard work pays off I hope
@notoriousbmc1
@notoriousbmc1 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@freshwateraquatics5567
@freshwateraquatics5567 2 жыл бұрын
If it was someone talking it would... really missing the ball on that one I think.
@ClaudioMalagrino
@ClaudioMalagrino 2 жыл бұрын
I think he should publish a book with this content. I would buy it and study it carefully.
@havewissmart9602
@havewissmart9602 9 ай бұрын
Everything happens for a reason
@Kroggnagch
@Kroggnagch 8 ай бұрын
@@freshwateraquatics5567reeeee is the time I fell asleep watching this episode, and the above is what I woke up to having typed. I see it as a most rare glimpse into the goings-on of the unconscious mind, and it would be greedy to not share it. Read it, people. Read it, and know that reeeee is the time.
@michaszkot4419
@michaszkot4419 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to point out that Bernard was also a torturer... possibly even worse than Sayid.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, yes I suppose he was! No one looks forward to a visit to the dentist.
@NuXta
@NuXta 2 жыл бұрын
Having to listen to him waffle on about "karma" and "the good guys" was torture enough.
@SomeAndrewGuy
@SomeAndrewGuy 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot “stay lost”. Great video as usual.
@NuXta
@NuXta 2 жыл бұрын
We're not lost any more.
@giallosubmarine5223
@giallosubmarine5223 2 жыл бұрын
Wow 34 minutes, what a treat. Love the use of Sayid as a case study on Lost's theme of good and evil. For years I've been watching people say "tHeY rUiNeD SaYiD" in the last season, and I've always disagreed. His actions make complete sense when you consider his willingness to commit "evil acts" in service of a subjectively noble purpose, a character trait which we've been shown since season one. I still wonder about the mechanics of *how* the waters brought him back from the dead though. I.e. if the island needed him back, why didn't it heal him upon immersion? Why was he left dead for hours? I do wish they'd have gave us a little more info there.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I tend to believe that Jack had actually re-started Sayid's heart during the CPR, but it was incredibly faint and took Sayid some time to become conscious again. We know the spring healed his gunshot wound otherwise he would still have been bleeding out. I don't think he was dead for as long as it seemed.
@brettsavaglio1784
@brettsavaglio1784 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 is it possible that a candidate's touch can mean anything once Jacob is dead?
@stingywingy1607
@stingywingy1607 5 ай бұрын
Really dude? They went from trying to give Sayid a second chance to redefine himself as more than a killer and the have him remain that for the rest of the show going as far to make him a mindless minion with that dumbass pool of water that once again broke another thing the writers promises they would never introduce: resurection. The problem is killing Ben as a child doesn't make sense as it won't save Nadia anyways and they just butcher his character though what should I expect since this rationalization is on par with an AI voice saying the man in black became evil because he childishly took his village being slaughtered to mean he could do anything. The obvious fact is that as confirmed in a season 1 leaked script is that the smoke monster started out as a military experiment gone wrong and thus why it behaved as a mindless monster. The Man in Black was never planned at all.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 5 ай бұрын
This was a bit all over the map as comments go. It’s easier to respond to comments that stay on one or two points but I will try to cover your complaints as best I can. 1. If you don’t like the AI voice then all of these videos have been remade with my own voice under the banner of The Theory of Everything. I haven’t used an AI voice for about almost two years now so it’s weird to come across someone still complaining about an issue that has long since been fixed. 2. Sayid’s arc was always about him dealing with his inner darkness. The culmination of that six season arc is a logical one. Since the Man in Black represents darkness then it makes sense that Sayid would be amenable to coercion. His character has lost everything by that point but the good in him still exists and he fights back against it to save his friends. I get people not being happy with final season Sayid but to me it was inevitable that his arc would come down to him choosing between light and dark. 3. The writers could not have promised that there would never be resurrection in the show because there is literally at least two resurrections in Season One lol! Remember that both Rose and Charlie die and Jack brings them back to life? Charlie is literally dead! How about Charlotte Malkin in Season Two? She is dead for almost a whole day and comes back to life on the autopsy table! With a message from Yemi no less! People were being resurrected from literally the first episode and first season of the show. 4. Killing Ben as a child does make sense. Because it’s about the butterfly effect. It would change the future significantly. If Ben is erased from Sayid’s life then he will never lead The Others, or turn the wheel. Which will effectively prevent Oceanic 815 from crashing since the time travel is the reason that the plane crashes in the first place. And even if we divorce all of that from the equation and go into Sayid’s emotional motivations, he is doing this because of his own guilt. It’s not necessarily about bringing Nadia back to life. It is about wiping his own slate clean. If he kills Ben as a boy then future Ben will never manipulate Sayid into killing all of those people. Sayid is trying to wash the blood from his hands. Not everything he did was about Nadia directly. 5. Send me the link to that “leaked episode script” that confirmed the smoke monster was supposed to be a military machine and I’ll give you a million dollars. You won’t find it because that script doesn’t exist. I suspect that you are referring to a vague memory you probably have about the pitch document that JJ and Damon made for ABC in 2004, which contains a mix of ideas for where the series could go, some of which were never used and others that were. The smoke monster evolved from those initial ideas as did other elements. Not everything was set in stone from the first episode and no one from the show has ever made the claim that they knew all the answers from the start, which is another myth about the show perpetuated by people who misremember creator quotes. The Man in Black was a concept they had in mind in some form as an arch antagonist (they wanted two characters to eventually embody Locke’s presentation of the light and dark pieces from the Pilot) but the details behind what that character would be exactly were nebulous at best. They found a lot of these concepts between Season One and Season Two and fleshed them out. I get that you have frustrations with the show, and while I might disagree with what those problems are, it’s important to accurately recall what was promised and intended versus what we wanted or would have preferred. A lot of these issues come down to a mix of personal preference and misconceptions/mis-remembrances of what was said by the showrunners. I’m making a video all about this very subject actually.
@stingywingy1607
@stingywingy1607 5 ай бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2. This is completely sidestepping the point over how the show made it so Sayid remained a killer to the end and was never able to redefine that. His character is butchered in the last 2 seasons to where the only heroic moment we get with him is self sacrifice. 3. Dude you're being disingenuous and condescending to the max. CPR is resurection? Really? We're talking about a magical pool that removes plotholes with Ben remembering the cast as a kid, healing wounds, bringing back the dead, and robbing people of "innocence". This also breaks the promise of the creators that every answer would have a reasonable scientific explanation as made in many interviews in the early seasons. Also Charlotte appeared to come back to life off the island according to the wiki compared to Sayid who couldn't be revived by CPR and was really dead. Also no resurection was a promis repeatedly made in early interviews along with any use of purgatory at all, time travel, magic, etc. 4. The butterfly effect? Really? Why not just move a mug. Killing Ben would do nothing save preventing Sayid from being dragged back to the island a second time after Jacob killed Nadia. He was much better off spending his time doing something that would have worked better such as sabatoging certain dharma projects. And no the hatch caused the plane to crash, that's...very vital lore that is rememberable. 5. Dude you don't get to claim it doesn't exist and then mention it and try to weasle your way out of that through semantics. Can you not insult my memory over an online document that is viewable when you forgot the hatch was responsible for crashing the plane not the magic donkey wheel that was turned later? Also Really, dude the man in Black was crafted by season 4 at absolute earliest or the end of season 5 realistically. There's a reason why the smoke monster acts like a monster mindlessly killing people and acting as a security system. Because, its impossible to try and recon the idea that it could be a sentient being with a clear agenda to leave the island and steal Locke's body despite being forbiden from killing him for it to kill the pilot, attempt to kill Locke at one point, and never do anything strategic save ensuring the candidates found water. It is impossible to recon these ideas because even a child watiching the show with their mother at age 9 can understand the difference in portrayal and that the monster was never meant to be a man in black.
@Choekaas
@Choekaas 2 жыл бұрын
Another thing about Bernard. Several of the tailsection survivors became indoctrinated into the Others. We can even spot several of them (background extras) in later episodes on Others mission. For all we know, Bernard (a tailie) killed one of his own during that raid :O
@Duckmann62
@Duckmann62 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! Honestly, you have a better understanding & explanation for this show than most of the showrunners. Keep up the amazing work!
@ATMyles
@ATMyles 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve said that too!
@SamuelDJCox
@SamuelDJCox 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and summary of Good & Evil in LOST. Every character is on the Good & Evil spectrum in the show, you picked great examples and there are so many more… Jack - Good morally, but science minded, cynical and struggles with pure hopeful thinking/faith in something greater Locke - Good morally, but tragedy in his life led him to need something greater to believe in, his hopeful thinking and faith ultimately led him to some questionably evil and selfish acts Kate - Good morally, but equally capable of evil, blinded by her good intentions she is unable to see her own selfishness Sawyer - Bad and incredibly flawed but truly a good person at heart, he just needed the island to bring out his humanity Hurley - the most pure good, yet flawed in LOST Ben - the most evil, yet redeemable in LOST Sayid - Good and evil in equal parts, he is led by a noble heart but is capable of evil in the name of good, in addition his love and passion is so strong it can easily be turned to fear, anger and vengeance Charlie - Good morally, but tragedy in his life brought out his flaws and his desire to be good was not always well executed, he needed to learn boundaries and patience Desmond - Good morally and a romantic, but meant ultimately for a greater destiny as a singular person, it meant he cared deeply for those he loved but it conflicted with his own call of destiny, so in the process he made hard decisions and ended up pushing away, hurting and running away from people he loved. There are just so many more but I think the main characters I included here and the ones you chose for the video really show a great summary of how this Good & Evil duality was present in all the main characters and stories… Great work!
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
You also use really great examples with very incisive character analysis.
@SamuelDJCox
@SamuelDJCox 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Thank you!
@loosegoose2466
@loosegoose2466 2 жыл бұрын
Very insightful video. There is this some notion of judgement with the Source. It spits out the man in black and some people can't move on and become whispers until they've come to terms with what they've done e.g Michael. One of the worst humans in the show is Anthony Cooper, Locke's Dad. No evidence of any redemption there. So what people do matters, there are consequences for moral choices, however complex they are. But you're right that its not a simplistic good versus evil show. Ultimately though the final vision is a return to Source with the ones we love, so 'good' wins....
@ClaudioMalagrino
@ClaudioMalagrino 2 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Linus is a very complex character. Now it makes complete sense to me why he remained on the island to help Hugo.
@blogking477
@blogking477 2 жыл бұрын
From the words of lelouch forcing your good intentions on others is no different from a evil act. Great vid
@danielleboutet2172
@danielleboutet2172 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation, I never missed a single one! I hope the LOST series is aired on TV again!!!
@TheFourthAct
@TheFourthAct 2 жыл бұрын
I love that your videos aren't about answering questions anymore and more about exploring the complex themes thoroughly. Amazing job... so good lol
@marinabassi3767
@marinabassi3767 2 жыл бұрын
I am literally lost for words... Another incredibly rich and subtle analysis, great work. I really do hope that you not ending it with "stay lost" does not mean that this is the last video? I think I will need to prepare myself in advance for when it happens!
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
This particular series of videos is coming to an end soon, but the channel will not be closing for business. There is still more content to come :)
@CheapSkateGrower
@CheapSkateGrower 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 thank you for these. They’ve really been insightful and added to the Lost mythos
@marinabassi3767
@marinabassi3767 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Thank the Source for that 😊!
@Seomus
@Seomus 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. Can't wait for the final one. just binged this over the last two days!
@dalmatia1
@dalmatia1 2 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget that Hugo stole food and hid it from everyone else.
@docmychedelic9153
@docmychedelic9153 Жыл бұрын
I’m not saying Widmore did kill Sayid’s wife but he definitely had a motive. Without her dying, he’d never have gone back to the Island or joined Smokey. The fact that Jacob saved him or at lest prevented him from saving her, allowing her to die, speaks to her death being something that could have motivated CW, Ben, or The Island to kill her.
@ATMyles
@ATMyles 2 жыл бұрын
This was outstanding. A very complex and nuanced analysis, yet again.
@Jultomten630
@Jultomten630 2 жыл бұрын
It would be nice to see a video about Henry Gale, what really happened to him, who he was etc? And why Ben did get caught in Rosseaus trap etc.. Great work.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
At some point in the future I shall be making discussion videos on unresolved mysteries like Henry Gale, Ilana, Libby, etc. Plus, more on contentious mysteries such as Jughead's detonation, pregnancy problems, the DHARMA purge, etc.
@danielleboutet2172
@danielleboutet2172 2 жыл бұрын
I loved the series! Please bring it back on TV. Thanks
@notoriousbmc1
@notoriousbmc1 2 жыл бұрын
Ben taking baby Alex is 11 years after he was healed. I never really thought about it before. I guess the properties of that Temple pool, are the opposite of the ageless touch, that Richard received...There is no way Ben is in his early 20's in that scene.🤣🤣
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it does take a large suspension of disbelief to buy Michael Emerson as a twentysomething man in his prime 😂 And also to believe that Ethan, by the time we meet him in 2004, is supposed to be 27 years old.
@ecaplan09
@ecaplan09 2 жыл бұрын
Why did Ben seemingly forget so much though after Richard saved him??
@tam2237
@tam2237 2 жыл бұрын
My mom and I are about to finish the show. I think she quit watching it around season 5 when she first Watched it so I’ve made her rewatch it alongside me. It’s fun to relive the show and I’m excited to finish the last 14 episodes.
@thegrumpybusinessman3400
@thegrumpybusinessman3400 2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos.
@feeky11
@feeky11 2 жыл бұрын
This guy did a phenomenal job
@MagicJacket
@MagicJacket 2 жыл бұрын
I am trying to imagine what you have in store for chapter 30! We got 34 minutes in the penultimate chapter. Should I set aside an hour for the finale? Great work, as always.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Chapter 30 is shaping up to be a similar length. The big one is going to come after that when all the chapters are stitched together for a supercut! Five hours long!
@trevorevansyoung
@trevorevansyoung Жыл бұрын
brilliant stuff my friend!
@JennaRuland
@JennaRuland Жыл бұрын
Thank you for perfectly explaining why this will always be my favorite show.
@brandonshaw27
@brandonshaw27 Жыл бұрын
this show and your break downs are just unreal
@raeliamrussi2679
@raeliamrussi2679 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this! This one was more character based and I really hope that you'll delve deeper into Jack.
@ATMyles
@ATMyles 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see that too. At times, I found Jack, with his stubbornness and self-righteousness, to be insufferable, even if I respected his leadership. But he evolved so much as a character that I grew to really care about him. He had a different kind of redemption, and so did his father.
@raeliamrussi2679
@raeliamrussi2679 2 жыл бұрын
@@ATMyles Jack is my favourite fictional character of all time. I've rewatched countless times and that has never changed. I think it would be so interesting to see an in depth character analysis of Jack. Others that would interest me would be Kate, Locke and Ben.
@ATMyles
@ATMyles 2 жыл бұрын
@@raeliamrussi2679 you might find this interesting: www.cbr.com/lost-michael-keaton-jack-shephard/
@qaiwani
@qaiwani 2 жыл бұрын
All what you said applies to real life, many many examples of that. Thanks for another great video.
@Dice-Gamble
@Dice-Gamble 2 жыл бұрын
12:28 ---- You my friend --- are a GENIUS!!!!
@Rocky2418
@Rocky2418 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, utterly brilliant! It's funny - since Locke is my favorite character, I have good reason to feel animosity toward Ben. But that scene you showed with him and Ilana? It always chokes me up, and makes me feel deeply for him - most of all the way he delivers the line: "Because he's the only one that'll have me." For me, it's also Michael Emerson's finest acting in the entire show. I was just disappointed that after that seeming turning point in Ben, he seemed to backtrack to his own self-preservation ways by agreeing to kill people for the MiB near the end of the series. I don't just mean Widmore, who he wanted dead anyway. Even after that, he says something like 'You said there were some other people you wanted me to kill?' to the MiB. It was pretty disappointing - however, as you said, merely a demonstration of what you've pointed out: Each character (and real life person) has an ever-changing scale of good and bad. It's always a choice, as we ultimately see with Ben as he talks with John outside the church, showing contrition and receiving forgiveness. Anyway, great video - I look forward to the last one.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I would make the argument that Ben had made the complete swing towards redemption by the end of 'Dr. Linus' and his behaviour in the final run of episodes was a combination of survival mode and manipulation. He needed Fake Locke to believe that he was on his side in order to survive long enough and to wait for the right moment to convey the information to our Losties about the location of the boat -- information which leads them to the fight site on the cliff edge where Kate shoots Fake Locke. They wouldn't have made it in time if it were not for Ben. Further to this, Ben shoots Widmore in part to fulfil a vendetta, yes. But if we really observe the scene from the POV that Ben is a good guy now, he actually shoots Widmore before he can fully explain the significance of Desmond's purpose. Widmore is about to give the whole game away to the one person who should not be in on the ruse. Ben sees this and kills him, then covers up this shooting with a Man in Black-friendly bloodlust motivation. He proclaims: "Didn't you say there were some other people to kill?" We know Ben never had any intention on delivering on this by 'The End'. He was stringing the Man in Black along to buy time. I believe that Ben had genuinely made a full turnaround by 'Dr. Linus'.
@Rocky2418
@Rocky2418 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Very interesting take on that! I would never have considered that explanation. It makes perfect sense in terms of stopping Widmore from giving the whole plan away. (MiB did say that he had already told him what he needed to know, but maybe he didn't realize there was more?) I suppose the vendetta part of it just explains why he freely and immediately tells MiB where Widmore is hiding in the first place - in addition, perhaps, to just wanting to gain his trust. In addition, I had never stopped to wonder how Kate and the others even knew to go to that spot where the final battle took place. I mean, Kate knows how to track people, but they didn't even go with Jack, MiB, and Desmond to the Source cave - and presumably couldn't have found it without being with Jack as the new Protector. (Not to mention it might be a BIT tricky to track while the island is shaking and falling apart.) I just happen to be about 10 episodes from the end in my current watching of the show, so I'll definitely watch those last few with that POV in mind.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
Let me know if you read those final episodes in the same way. It had honestly never occurred to me that Ben had reverted back to type at that point. I always saw him as stringing along the MiB until he saw a window of opportunity.
@healthhealingandhappinessw6060
@healthhealingandhappinessw6060 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhmazing!!
@anchard9895
@anchard9895 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! 🙏
@catac83
@catac83 2 жыл бұрын
I don t get why , in the final episode after Desmond removes the cork, Mib is so surprised that his immortality is over after Jack punches him.. I thought he knew everything, from his very elaborate plan to kill Jacob, going back in time over and over again to manupulate the outcomes.. he should have known that he is connected to the source of the island and that if the island gets destroyed his powers will go away.. It appears that Mib is driven by the need of Jacobs brother to leave the island at any cost regardless of any collateral costs such as destroyoing the source (the light and his DARK) .. Mib seems now a foolish character to me, I mean you don t want to destroy yourself (the dark side of the source) just to fullfil Jacobs brother wish to leave the island.. Mib seems like a lion or any other animal driven only by instict without good judgement
@user-fq5kg6gk1g
@user-fq5kg6gk1g 24 күн бұрын
LOST is one of the Greatest Tv Series Ever Made
@vinnieharper
@vinnieharper 2 жыл бұрын
Chapter 29.. Nice.
@ls14p
@ls14p 2 жыл бұрын
How can Harry Bosch be evil?…
@Juniorwoodchuck
@Juniorwoodchuck Жыл бұрын
A question concerning the mib: It's hard to call him totally evil. There is a reason: his mother was murdered. She came to him, she told him she was murdered. He found family in the people who his mother LIED and said didn't exist. The others committed the purge. Starting from mother, they have murdered. Then, after murdering his real mother, the Mother destroyed his dream to see the true world outside -- and murdered his whole new family and friends. Mib had his dreams and family destroyed by Mother. Through repeated murder and lies. The question I am going towards is: why deny redemption and forgiveness to mib? Why deny him the church in the end? He had problems towards the island, that is true. But -- it can be determined that it is the island which engineered these problems. Not only did the island allow -- or possibly order -- the murder of mib's real mother -- but it sent the real mother to mib! The whole conflict was instigated by that dream or whatever, where Claudia tells mib the truth! If it were not for this reveal, would it ever be possible for mib to learn the truth? So this conflict between mib and the island, was engineered and provoked by the island. Mib being denied redemption, after the crimes of the island towards him, would be a further crime of the island, according to the rules and values of the island. A cover up, by the island, for the island's crimes. Why deny mib redemption, when he is the victim of the island.
@Tony-fq5bn
@Tony-fq5bn 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he didn't spend the whole show creating an army of "undead followers" because he preferred just to manipulate people into doing what he wanted, and only did what he did to Sayid once Jacob was dead, and they were near the endgame
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the Man in Black had spent 2,000 years trying to find a loophole and a way of cheating the rules so he could escape. If he did have this power to turn people into followers through some kind of supernatural influence (whether they were alive or dead) then logic dictates he would have used it to build up his forces a lot sooner. In fact, MiB would have used every avenue and power available to him. What I find interesting is that although he is credited with bringing back Sayid from the dead and having this supernatural hold/influence over the man, he still has to sit down and talk Sayid into becoming his footsoldier, which means whatever power the MiB has over him is not psychic or supernatural mind control. He still needs to talk people into doing things by lying and making false promises. So, I don't believe he actually had this power to raise the dead and control them like zombies. It's one of the many belief myths shared in season six.
@lastpme
@lastpme 3 ай бұрын
Jacob did a lot of shady stuff to get the candidates on the island. Michael is a perfect example...he finally got his son and had the Others kidnap his son and they left him out in the Ocean. Talking Walt put Michael on a path to kill two people. He also played on Ben by making him the leader but not meeting him, which led to the MiB to manipulate him to become jealous of John which led to him killing John.
@alaska1719
@alaska1719 2 жыл бұрын
what about the polar bears? cant remember if they were explained or not, love these though! started watching the series a month ago and just finished, youre videos were perfectly timed!
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I explain the polar bears and their purpose in Chapter Fourteen on The DHARMA Initiative 🙂
@Tony-fq5bn
@Tony-fq5bn 2 жыл бұрын
I mean a lot of people do think it was character assassination to have Sayid do that. I would say, ya what Sayid did was evil, I think that he allowed himself to be manipulated by Ben was the character assassination and not simply that he did evil acts. I just never bought that these people should be manipulated by Ben after all he'd done, seriously thought they overpowered him because they were in love with his character, I guess since he waited til they were truly broken. I agree with your characterization of the Island tho, it does seem like even a mass murderer is redeemable. Then again we never see what happens AFTER purgatory. there could very well be something waiting to judge these characters after they are able to leave purgatory.....or maybe they just get reincarnated... who knows
@jamestaylor8037
@jamestaylor8037 Жыл бұрын
Ben done what he done because of the time travel paradox...that's why he kidnapped Juliette..to save his life when she eventually time travels..lost is all about the time travel paradox
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Жыл бұрын
I extensively discuss the time travel paradox on this channel and how it informs the entire story of LOST, so I agree with you to some extent. However, your suggestion that Ben recruits and keeps Juliet *because* of the time loop isn't accurate. Ben isn't aware that there is a time loop at that point. He doesn't even remember getting shot by Sayid. The temple springs reversed his injuries and, more crucially, his memories. It's possible that Ben has an uncanny, distant memory of a woman who looked like Juliet from his childhood days, but he wouldn't (and doesn't) connect the dots. Those experiences informed his psychology but he was never aware of the time travel.
@jamestaylor8037
@jamestaylor8037 Жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 of ourse he was aware of the time travellers when he was with the others..if he was working with Eloise..he was aware..even Charles was aware..but Ben wasn't...Ben admits..he lies..that's what he does.. and the way he says to sun. I don't know where the time travellers disappeared to..now he was ignorant of the monster. His people don't even call it a monster..but Richard must remember the black smoke..unless he thought he was dehydrated and trippin..I mean he did see a boar. Could a beee. Trippin...but serious question...the man in blacks mum...she died on the island..can the source..heart.. light of the island bring dead people back to life ..and communicate with the living..I love talking about lost..it changed TV forever..well that and Stargate sg1
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Жыл бұрын
I disagree that Ben was aware of the time loop. His reaction to seeing that DHARMA recruit photograph is genuine. He had no idea that Jack, Sawyer, Kate, Hurley et al were in the Initiative with him as a boy. Remember when he sees John Locke appear at the beechcraft during the compass hand-off scene? He can barely wrap his head around the fact that time travel is happening before his very eyes. He's like: "Who is that man? What's going on? How did you know when to be here?" Then after time travelling Locke disappears he says: "Where did he go?" Ben was clueless as to the time loop and the time travel until he is back on the island in 2007. Also, Ben didn't start working with Eloise until *after* Locke was killed and there is no evidence to suggest that Eloise told Ben about the time loop mechanics. Because he didn't need to know. Charles Widmore was aware of the loop for the same reasons that Eloise was -- because of their encounter with Faraday, Jack and the journal in 1977. Also, Ben as a boy would have had very little contact with Sawyer (who was the head of security) and Juliet (who worked in the carpool as a mechanic), which gives the show a plausible deniability as to why he doesn't really remember them. As I said before, he might have had a subconscious sense of familiarity with Juliet and that is what draws him to her (although the fact that she looks like his mother too gives it a Freudian spin as well). As for Jacob and MiB's real mother -- Claudia -- I discuss her ghostly appearance in my latest video on the channel about "Ghosts and Apparitions on the Island". You'll find your answers there :) I do agree with you that it's still a lot of fun to talk about LOST and that it changed TV forever.
@Tony-fq5bn
@Tony-fq5bn 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what we learned about The Others as the show went on, all The Losties knew at that time, was that there was supposed to be an attack coming, and that these "Others" had attacked and killed them before without provocation. Locke killing the girl wasn't even necessary if he wasn't ready to kill Jack too, I guess he was weak but he shoulda been trying to destroy the phone not kill Naomi
@shanereid8135
@shanereid8135 Жыл бұрын
He would i guess but he couldn't easily get sccess to it 😊
@DragonUltraMaster
@DragonUltraMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think it's possible to make a video about MiB goal? I mean, a short answer is to leave the island and go home. It has been his wish ever since he discovered other people, but everything got ruined by both his mother and Jacob. My point is: what exactly is this "home" he's talking about? The world has changed so much since Jacob took over and the candidates arrived at the island. What will he do? Where will he go? The questions is endless when thinking about it. He might have seen the world when scanning people, but that doesn't really "do much" for him. I problably can not make sense out of this subject, it's just so big when thinking about it (atleast for me xD) I can't even bring it together in a good way, lol. Hopefully you understand it though.
@ffallenaangel
@ffallenaangel 2 жыл бұрын
nicee
@cornsyrupp
@cornsyrupp 2 жыл бұрын
There is a theory that a friend of mine proposed to me recently that made me curious. The theory is that when Jack went down into the source to put the plug back in, he became another smoke monster. Now I must say, I’m not so sure about this one and i wouldn’t say I believe it myself. For one, the Egyptians worked down there and none of them became smoke monsters. I also think that since in the epilogue Hugo mentions that things are going well to Walt, that to me suggests next to nothing is/has gone wrong. But my friend argues that Jack as the monster works together with Hugo to protect the island, and not as his enemy. Once again, I’m not really sure that I believe this but I was curious to hear what you might’ve thought about it. Great video as per usual, cheers.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
This is a fairly common misconception that I have come across, but it is easily disproven. It is established that only someone entering the open aperture of The Source can be transformed into a smoke monster. After the ancient incident during the Egyptian era, and their installation of the cork, it made it so that this could never happen again because in order to get to the light you need to uncork The Source, but by doing that you also turn the light off. Creating smoke monsters is no longer possible. The Man in Black was the last of his kind. Furthermore, Jack is clearly alive after being transported out from The Source and dies of his wounds in the jungle, not in The Source. Let your friend know! :D
@cornsyrupp
@cornsyrupp 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 thanks!
@theh0lybible
@theh0lybible 2 жыл бұрын
The Man in Black was not the cause of any evil, the woman who killed his mother was the root cause of all the bad that happened. Her distrust of people, and her slaughtering of TMIB's group was the catalyst that started the feud.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I agree that Mother was the catalyst for the conflict between the two boys and a lot of their wrongheaded beliefs, but I don't agree with this "Man in Black was not really bad or responsible because his Mother that made him that way." We don't use this logic in real life when talking about mass murderers, do we? Parental abuse is often a factor, of course, but just because someone had a traumatic or messed up childhood doesn't give them a clean slate for all the evil or immoral acts they commit later. Mother had been dead 2,000 years by the time the Man in Black was wilfully slaughtering people in the jungle in 2004. He wasn't pure evil as claimed, but he was the closest thing to evil on the show.
@alaska1719
@alaska1719 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see an explanation on the lighthouse, its unclear of its use, it rather suggests Jacobs mode of transportation to the mainland. is this true?
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I discuss the lighthouse in detail in the chapter on The Candidates.
@Michael-eq8th
@Michael-eq8th Жыл бұрын
I think more accurate moral extremes are Rose and Anthony Cooper
@waterwise77
@waterwise77 2 жыл бұрын
If I would have know this was the last video I would have enjoyed it more
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
This is not the last video ;-) More still to come.
@adammontgomery5532
@adammontgomery5532 2 жыл бұрын
At 1:30, you state: "To assume that this light (beneath the island) represents all the good in human beings is to sign away our sense of responsibility in our actions to a supernatural force." And, yet, in Chapter 28 of this series, you said that "the future is set is stone," and that the creators of Lost came down definitely in favor of determinism, not free will. This suggests that the universe, as seen by Lindelof & Cuse, et.al., is a fundamentally cruel universe. A universe which lays upon us the guilt and responsibility for choices that we have no real control over, just the illusion of control. If everything is laid out in advance, then we are, essentially, puppets to the deeply instantiated patterns of said universe. I will agree that this does seem to represent the POV of the creators. So I'm not really arguing with you, just checking that I didn't miss anything. I suppose you could conjecture that this 'sense of responsibility' is the thing that keeps us invested in our choices - if everyone realized that free will is an illusion, would they care anymore? It all adds up to a kick-ass story, so I'm glad the writers did choose a side, even if it's a curious choice, imo.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
This is a very thoughtful comment! I shall try to be as equally thoughtful in how I respond to it. I will say that these are questions and conversations that the showrunners absolutely want us to be having, at least on some level. I will have to self-quote some of my own content here, as I do tap into this in my video on "Destiny", but it's all relevant to the questions at hand. I would argue that choice still exists within the universe of LOST in the same way it would exist for us in a deterministic reality. It is partly a matter of perception. Example: we know that the events of Season Five were all predetermined because of the time loop, but does that render the choices of our characters within that time loop inert? Do they have any choice at all? Are they just automatons? The answer is no, yes, and no. Fate does not preclude that our characters have no free will to make choices, it's just that the show's embodiment of fate -- aka The Island -- already knows what choices they will make since time has no meaning within the light. We know The Island guides people and events to create causal outcomes, and we know that the past cannot be changed so therefore the present and future are also set in stone from the POV of The Source because time does not exist within it. It might see and experience all time simultaneously in its fourth dimensional reality because it is *beyond time* as we understand it. But from a subjective human POV on the ground, with a linear perception of time and reality, our characters are absolutely making choices of their own volition, day in and day out. Every second of their lives. They don't know it's part of a larger tapestry or that A will lead to B. Therefore, they must reckon with those choices on a personal level. Michael still decided to pull the trigger and kill two women. That is something he has to reckon with on a psychological and spiritual level as a man. Sawyer still chose to become a better man and redeem himself from his past. But that doesn't mean he won't have to reckon with his own demons, such as shooting an innocent man in Australia. The best question to ask is: "Does it matter if our choices are predetermined if *we don't know* that they are already predetermined?" Does that take away our sense of free will? Does it take away our sense of responsibility over our own choices, actions and inactions? Let's say that we definitely live in a predetermined world where everything has already happened, only we don't know it. Does that take away our internal sense of agency over what we decide to do today? Do you feel like you didn't make the choice to watch and respond to these videos? Because if we do live in a deterministic universe (and we very well might) then everything you do and say is already set in stone. But you don't know that, so you continue to make your own choices and living your life. This is also true of our characters in LOST. Jacob understands that whatever choice a character makes in a situation will be the choice they were supposed to make at that time. Jacob doesn't always know what someone will choose to do only that it was what they were supposed to do in that moment. And this is what Jack has to reckon with in 'Lighthouse'. It's why he has to sit on a rock and look at the ocean for while. Because he is trying to reconcile the same issues that you are bringing up. He is probably thinking to himself: "Did I ever have a choice in anything I ever did? Did I ever have any control? Does any of it matter?" But we see that Jack does reconcile these truths with who he is and wants to be. He can still make choices of his own even knowing that destiny and predestination is real. Hence why he laughs to himself as he restarts The Source in the cave in 'The End'. He finally understands that he is part of something bigger and has fulfilled his purpose in life. The difference with LOST's view of determinism versus real-world determinism is that there is a clear prime mover responsible for this predestination rather than it being a random effect (and inescapable trapping) of the universe. There is a reason for why everything happens the way that it does in LOST, which is clearly demonstrated throughout the series, whereas we don't have that same reassurance in our real world lives. A prime mover is defined as either "an entity chiefly responsible for executing a plan" or "an initial source of motive power", at least according to Google. And this is what The Island, aka The Source is. The source of motive power and the architect of a grander plan. How much it influences even the tiniest human choice is impossible to say for sure, we just know that it always gets the outcomes it wants/needs. So, LOST characters can and do make their own choices even though those choices feed into a predetermined causality. It doesn't make the choices they make any less significant or any less meaningful to them and others just because a prime mover exists who knows what they are going to do next. Yes, The Island triggers certain events and makes certain things happen (e.g. moving our Losties very specifically through time) but it is not literally moving the characters like pieces on a chessboard at all times throughout their lives. They are not puppets. The Island guides them towards causality by incorporating their choices into the grander tapestry. That's why Jacob's tapestry is such a good metaphor. Lots of threads weaved together over time, crossing one another and creating a grander picture that we, as individual threads, cannot see. We see that some characters become aware that destiny is a real thing. Which is something we will, theoretically, never have happen to us in our real lives. But we do see man of science Jack Shepherd reconcile this mind-bending fact when he tells Desmond: "There are no shortcuts, no do-overs. What happened, happened. Trust me, I know. All of this matters." He does not jettison meaning and purpose in his actions simply because he has a destiny. Determinism is not a get out of jail free card for morality or personal responsibility. And that is one of the last lessons Jack learns in the show before his death. To me, this doesn't make for a cruel universe, at least not in LOST. It's the opposite. It means that everything that every character ever said or did had meaning. That all of their collective suffering, misery and pain is about something bigger than themselves. It's a somewhat spiritual way of viewing existence, because it means that everything they did matters and everything happened for a reason. This is what makes the show so fascinating to me. Because it reconciles notions of faith and science together. Good and evil are constructs to help human beings understand nature. Even if choice is simply a matter of perception, human consciousness gives those choices meaning; a sense of agency and ownership. But we are all part of the same chain. The same energy. The same consciousness. The same tapestry. We all matter. And everything that we do matters. I hope this helps to address some of your points there!
@adammontgomery5532
@adammontgomery5532 2 жыл бұрын
​@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Thank you for the very thorough and generous reply! It's easy for me to just throw questions out there, but now I actually have to work to provide an intelligent response to you! lolz. I hear what you are saying regarding LOST not being a cruel universe. I'll wend around my way to that question eventually, but here are a few reactions to your beginning paragraphs: I think that you've phrased the 'free will' debate questions (in your second paragraph) very well, and I will agree with your answers of "no, yes, and no." So we're in agreement that the players in our drama do not know that their fates have already been set out for them (i.e., determinism) and, thus, they are not automatons. But does the ISLAND know the future? For that matter, is the Island conscious of its own actions in a way that we would recognize? When you state that "The Island guides people and events to create causal outcomes," you're at least opening up this possibility. And you reaffirm it with your discussion of the Island as a "prime mover." All of which was fascinating, and very well explained in your discussion above. The manner in which the Jack changes throughout the show (as you sum up in his quote to Desmond) is illustrative of these themes, and definitely makes for an entertaining set of stories! I'll come back to this discussion of the Island in a bit. In general, the debate on free will is found in that gap between our subjective experiences and the objective universe. Most people subjectively "feel" that they are in charge of the choices that they make. Many neurological experiments point to this perspective as an illusion. I'm comfortable with this possibility, although I think that anyone who speaks definitively on the topic is presupposing many things with which I'm not comfortable. Many people who talk about our "real-life universe" (i just had to add the quote marks! lolz) consider it to be deterministic and random, like an ocean tide breaking on the shore. There's nothing meaningful in it for these people. So, from that perspective, I can definitely see (and partly agree) that your interpretation of LOST - an interpretation with meaning and purpose - is not cruel. And, so far, I think your opinions are pretty much the best I've heard on this show. The part where I circle back around to talk about cruelty is when objective reality (in our world) is replaced by the ISLAND, a semi-conscious player that weaves a pattern throughout history. In this grand scheme, the ISLAND uses the bit players in the world (as presented on the show, but presumably there are millions of others used similarly) to accomplish its ends. Michael was required to return to the island, so that he could save the Oceanic Six by sacrificing himself on the freighter. Yes, he appeared to have a choice in all of this, but his fate was woven for him. Locke needed to die so Jack and Hurley and Kate could return to the island, Charlie needed to die to warn Desmond, both were sacrifices the island demanded. As you state in PART 28 - DESTINY (at the 10-minute mark), "Even the most minor character, or seemingly insignificant person, contributed to the cause and effect that is destiny." And then you list a few of these: "A businessman gets hit by a bus in a terrible accident. An unforeseen terminal illness strikes down a mother. A cold-blooded murder / suicide takes place at home." All so that the next chain of events, as woven by the ISLAND, can take place. If these bit players were given a true choice, it's likely they would request not to be used in such a tapestry, eh? You are seeing the more positive outcomes of how The Island manipulates our Losties (in that all of their 'collective suffering' held a laudable purpose, and gave meaning to their lives), while I can see the slightly more sinister outlook. In our universe, I would almost prefer a Prime Mover that isn't conscious or semi-conscious. Because if there is an agent sometimes directing us, it's easy to wonder, 'Is this the best he can do?' And, yet, I'm not here to denigrate the show, just to observe. And, unlike real life, there is tangible evidence in the show that there could be a purpose to all of this seeming cruelty that would JUSTIFY what the island is forced to do. And that purpose is the survival of this universe. We'll never know, ultimately, from where the light under the island originates, but it would be a fair assumption that the reality in the show of LOST is not a guaranteed thing. Perhaps the tapestry of cause and effect, and its many torturous undulations, is what the ISLAND has deemed to be the best way to keep the light from winking out forever. I'm not a fan of the concept of the 'ends justifying the means,' but if your two alternatives are to let everyone die or to use the lives of people in a sometimes cruel way... That would be a choice I'd still respect. So, perhaps there are a larger set of RULES by which the island is playing, hmm?
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
Another very thoughtful and well reasoned response! Just a couple of additional points to add to the discussion: In LOST, it's useful to view the The Island as being tantamount to a god-like entity. In the LOST universe, The Island *is* god, to a very large extent. That's how I view it, and how I believe the writers viewed it. I think The Island does know the future. How could it not? The light is eternal and time does not exist within it, therefore its view on time itself would be from a fourth dimensional perspective. We don't know if The Island is simply a slave to itself, forced to play out this bootstrap paradox because -- if it doesn't -- the world would perish and all souls everywhere would cease to exist. How sentient The Island truly is in all of this can be speculated upon. We know that it "needs" and has a certain power over people and events, but does it feel? Does it care? Is it inherently good? Or, like a bolt of lightning or a tornado, is it just part of nature? Or is it like an animal and is about its own survival? I feel like there is no wrong answer there. We also don't know what comes first: a person's choice or the causal outcomes of that choice. Is it the chicken or the egg? Do people make choices that create an unbreakable causality or are those choices simply the result of the unbreakable causality? It's hard to unpick that. One view is that LOST is trying to find a balance between the two ideas. Human beings have agency, but their actions have a butterfly effect on the world, and those effects lead to events that both risk then ensure the continuation of existence. And choice. I totally get what you're saying about the bit players suffering a seemingly unfair fate and being the pawns of a larger game since they appear to be mainly used to further the chain of causality and predestination. Such as Sawyer's parents. And, if season six had not shown us the sideways and the afterlife, then I would be inclined to agree that The Island is a cruel god in that way. However, the show definitively demonstrates that all souls continue on past their mortal lives. There is not only another plane of existence -- a continuum for consciousness -- for them to exist within, but opportunity for renewal and "rebirth" What that rebirth means -- i.e. where their souls ultimately end up -- is totally open to interpretation: reincarnation, heaven, becoming one with The Source, a permutation of all three of those things, etc. As for how much of this we can apply to the real world... we don't have nearly the same reassurances or evidence that a god or prime mover exists. Therefore, we can only operate on either faith that there is one somewhere with will and intention for us, or we can trust in science and learn the building blocks and make-up of existence. And without definitive proof then the jury is still out on god. LOST has the luxury of saying that science and faith can reconcile one another, because they have The Island to explain the mysteries of our existence. We have yet to discover such an entity in our everyday, non-fiction world. What I love about this show is the philosophical and existential concepts that it presents and asks us what we make of them. And if we care to explore and engage with those ideas more deeply. I think you and I are doing that, and it's great! :-)
@brettsavaglio1784
@brettsavaglio1784 2 жыл бұрын
When is the last installment coming?
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
No ETA right now. It’s proving to be more time consuming to make than I previously planned.
@alexsayther1603
@alexsayther1603 2 жыл бұрын
Have you gone over why the hatch goes into lockdown? you know when Locke sees that invisible painting on the door. Why did that happen?
@Zazzaro703
@Zazzaro703 2 жыл бұрын
If I had to take it guess it was because since releasing the electro magnetic energy was so important, it had a lockdown mechanism in place to protect the button in case the hatch came under attack. Example: it would have been useful to Eko to keep Locke out in season 2. What the conditions are to make it Trigger on it’s own or if there was a command or manual way to trigger it that was lost to time I’m not sure of. I’m guessing the way they rigged it to happen by crossing those wires wasn’t the original way to do it 😂 Edit: actually now that I’m thinking about it, I think it might have been mentioned that it happened when the supply drops were coming 🤔
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't specifically covered that. I think the lockdown procedure was originally designed to lockout an incursion by the hostiles in an emergency (like the explosives at The Flame). We know that when it occurred to Locke whilst alone in the hatch with Ben, it was triggered remotely by someone or something. The assumption became that it was related to the supply drop outside. Perhaps it was. Or... perhaps it was intentionally tripped by someone like Mikhail at The Flame station in order to create a potential opportunity for Ben. We know The Others were watching what was going on down there via video feed. And, by this point, The Others were trying to work out what to do to get their leader back. With just Locke present down in the hatch, this would have been an ideal opportunity to facilitate an escape plan. But Ben decides to remain, in the hopes that his Henry Gale story will check out and he can burrow in deeper with the survivors. But the story doesn't check out. Then, a couple of days later, Michael returns to the camp with orders to jailbreak Ben. The timing is interesting. This is all speculation, but it's how I view the lockdown. Just as I view Michael's communications with "Walt" via the hatch computer as really being Mikhail drawing him out.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
@@zackolmert9622 That was part of a separate ruse. The Others wanted to lure Michael out in order to learn more about Walt -- by this point Walt was starting to cause them trouble on Hydra Island -- and they thought having Michael present might help them with their research and controlling of Walt. At the same time, Ben is also studying Jack's file and watching him in the hatch via The Pearl, learning what he was emotionally attached to. He is almost sure that using Kate could control Jack. And using Sawyer could control Kate. They wait until Michael is alone near the computer and fake the message from Walt. The original plan was to get Michael to The Others for Walt-related research then potentially use him later to lure out Jack. Two birds, one stone. It was never Ben's intention to get caught by Rousseau's trap. I speculate that he was moving between The Pearl and the barracks when he got ensnared. Once news got back to The Others about Ben's capture, they had to improvise a plan in which to get him back. They use Michael to bust out their leader. But they also use this as a window of opportunity to execute Ben's original plan of luring Jack, Kate and Sawyer.
@ptitepeluche05
@ptitepeluche05 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, a question I have, sorry if you already answered it somewhere. If Mother was a smoke monster, how MIB was able to kill her with just a knife ?
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I have indeed :-) This question is answered in my video on "Mother". The answer is actually simpler than it may seem. I'll share the timecoded link with you here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/grNppduildmYfps.html
@ptitepeluche05
@ptitepeluche05 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 thank you very much :-)
@kunia9373
@kunia9373 2 жыл бұрын
there is one thing I always asked myself why did jacob cross off Kate's name but left Jin's and Sun's because the reason he crossed off Kate was that she is a mother now and that she has something to go back to but then again Jin and Sun have their real daughter at home which is at least blood related but still their names are still not crossed to be honest personally Jin and Sun didn't really had much impact on the last season which I find really sad cause Sun just came to bring her husband back but in the end she only followed everyone around and didn't do anything except for having some screen time Jin as well didn't do anything big like Jack or Sayid in my eyes even tho maybe some would disagree Sawyer and Kate would have been the better choice for dying in the U-boat at least in my eyes I know that Jin and Sun's ending was perfect and tragic it still didnt sit right with me I just think them returning to their daughter would have been much better especially because Kate and Sawyer didnt have anything to go back to with Juliet being dead and Claire going home to her son
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's clear that Jacob's reason for crossing off Kate's name was not really about her being a mother. As you rightly point out, this did not prevent Sun and Jin from being crossed off the list. Once someone is a candidate, they are a candidate until they either die or someone else accepts the position. Jacob says: "It's just a line of chalk on a wall. The job is yours if you want it, Kate." Which means Kate was still a candidate regardless of her name being crossed off. The real reason why Jacob did this was to throw off the Man in Black. Consider this. Jacob has two lists -- the lighthouse and the cave. The Man in Black was supposed to find the cave to keep track of Jacob's work. When he saw Kate's name crossed out, that set him at ease about Kate's importance. He could use her to draw the other candidates in but she wasn't a threat to him anymore. However, what do we know about Kate's destiny that made her so important in the endgame? She is the one who delivers the fatal shot to the Man in Black in 'The End'. Her name being crossed off meant that MiB never saw her coming. Jacob sensed this and concealed her MVP status.
@kunia9373
@kunia9373 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 thanks for the reply it makes sense for me now I just always found it odd thanks ^^
@marcosabech1036
@marcosabech1036 2 жыл бұрын
Is this the last video on the explained series?
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
There is one more video to be released to complete this particular series but it’s stuck in copyright dispute limbo right now. If and when it clears it shall go live on the channel.
@marcosabech1036
@marcosabech1036 2 жыл бұрын
Guess this is why there is 4 private videos on the playlist…..
@marcosabech1036
@marcosabech1036 2 жыл бұрын
Anyway…. Congrats on the series! Awesome job getting the lore and history well connected. Just rewatched Lost last month and besides the poor visual effects I can say that the series and how I understand it got much better than when I first watched.
@shanereid8135
@shanereid8135 Жыл бұрын
Good wears white and evil wears dark brown
@Eowyn187
@Eowyn187 2 жыл бұрын
Bottom line, it's all about perception. Personal perspective.
@kelvmwangangi4001
@kelvmwangangi4001 2 жыл бұрын
how about you explain how Radzinsky and Kelvin ended up in the hatch since the Dharma were all wiped out.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I touch upon this subject in my video on The DHARMA Initiative: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gdyhkpmrm63Hp3k.html
@AfterDark-wz8oc
@AfterDark-wz8oc 2 жыл бұрын
Could you please link me to the video that clearly explain that all passengers were not dead after flight crash and the island was not their Purgatory. All that happened till season 6 was true
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
The chapter on the flash sideways is probably the closest I come to addressing that misconception: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ntl4g7lnya_Oo4E.html
@atme365
@atme365 9 ай бұрын
How would anyone just watching the show be able to know any of this?
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 9 ай бұрын
This video is about the themes of good versus evil in the story, and the show presents that morality is complex. I think a lot of that is fairly self-evident. Or are you referring to the deep mythology itself? LOST can be watched as casually or as obsessively as one prefers. Some people will pick up on all the plot points to decipher the mysteries laid out, while others just watch it for the ride and to see who ends up with who. You can go as deep as you like. But the hardcore LOST fans like to go deep and the layers of the show offer us that opportunity. So, I guess my answer to you is: it depends on what kind of fan you are.
@atme365
@atme365 9 ай бұрын
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 I meant if you're casually watching the show, how would you figure out any of the things you've done videos on, I guess the thought culminated with this video.I just watched to the end of your playlist and it helped give a lot of context, but it seems to be a shame you couldn't infer a lot of the mythology from the show itself.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 9 ай бұрын
@atme365 As I said, it depends on the viewer/fan. LOST was a puzzle made to last six seasons. Some of the mysteries I talk about from the show are self-evident, and others less so. The only way for someone to pick up on the more abstract answers is if they watch it more than once. And like I said, some people enjoyed LOST without needing to untangle the Egyptian history or to figure out whether or not Mother was a smoke monster, etc. Some people just wanted to enjoy Sawyer without his shirt on, or the romances, or the action and twists. The best comparison I can make is with Christopher Nolan movies. A lot of people do complain about Nolan movies being too complicated and confusing. Example: “How is anyone supposed to follow the plot of Tenet and work out what is happening?” Well, maybe a portion of the audience won’t because it’s too much work. Either they’ll like Tenet without fully understanding the mechanics and plotting, or they’ll dismiss it as nonsense. While other people who watch Tenet will rewatch it more than once to untangle and understand Nolan’s intention. They will draw charts and make speculations and debate it online. They will figure out how what was happening because they are invested and motivated. It’s the same exact principle with LOST. Any fan can do what I’ve done. Many have figured out different elements from the show for themselves, or found their own readings and interpretations that work. It just takes effort and analysis to do so. I don’t think I’m unique in putting in that kind of work to a story that is complex and full of mystery and ambiguity.
@atme365
@atme365 9 ай бұрын
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 thanks for this 😊
@faust5398
@faust5398 2 жыл бұрын
Penultimate ?! Nooooo
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, there is still much more to come :)
@TheFourthAct
@TheFourthAct 2 жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 you should do an analysis of The Leftovers at some point on this channel
@MrMasterofmillions
@MrMasterofmillions Жыл бұрын
doesn't this view on the man in black go directly against your prior view in ep 28 - destiny?
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Жыл бұрын
Could you clarify what you mean by this?
@MrMasterofmillions
@MrMasterofmillions Жыл бұрын
@@LOSTEXPLAINED108 in 28 you say everything is predetermined, here you fault him for who he's become
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 Жыл бұрын
I replied to your other comment on the Destiny video regarding free will vs determinism, which covers a lot of this ground so I won't rehash it all here. We have to ask ourselves: is The Island forcing people's choices or is it simply fulfilling the outcomes of those choices? In other words: what comes first? A person's choice or the facilitation of said choice? It's hard to deinterlace but I believe the show is saying that both things are happening simultaneously: people are making choices and The Island is guiding them to those choices. Because our Losties appear in the distant past of the island and create a causality wave through their actions. A wave that will dictate centuries of events to come, leading right up to 2007. The Source knows our Losties will make choices throughout their lives that will lead to the island and the time travel, and it facilitates for all this to happen. The show also establishes that choice matters. And the Man in Black made bad choices (more so as a smoke monster than before when he was a mortal man), and he does all this regardless of The Island's need to fulfil the future. Remember, the time travel only happens because the smoke monster exists in 2004 and 2007. The Man in Black's choices feed into a larger tapestry of causality. But a deterministic reality with predetermined outcomes does not excuse the choices someone makes. Especially not in the context of LOST's view of determinism and destiny. Just because The Source knows what is going to happen and plays its role in events accordingly, doesn't mean it is forcing people to do things against their will. It plays its part, and they play theirs. Everyone remains responsible for all the good and bad they do.
@harryhicks7998
@harryhicks7998 11 ай бұрын
Any chance of rerecording these with your voice can’t listen to that voice.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 11 ай бұрын
Already rerecorded and re-edited most of them. The latest 12 videos on the channel all use my own voice. Start with this playlist then work your way backwards: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbqKa5uWurfWeqM.html
@Mavvyd96
@Mavvyd96 2 жыл бұрын
Lost Explained, do you hold any religious views? I for one am a Christian and appreciate the message behind the show.
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I have no denominational faith although I am open to spiritual concepts, especially in terms of how I look at our existence and the mysteries of the universe. I guess I can best describe myself as being somewhere between Jack and Locke.
@Kroggnagch
@Kroggnagch 8 ай бұрын
The moke smonstereeee
@neoluddite5676
@neoluddite5676 2 жыл бұрын
How do we know it was Christian at the church? He’s been disguised before
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
The interaction between Jack and Christian in the church makes it abundantly clear that this is the dead version of both men reuniting in the afterlife.
@borntowin4768
@borntowin4768 2 жыл бұрын
ONLY DOWNSIDE OF YOUR VIDEOS... THE CRAPPY VOLUME LEVEL YOU CHOOSE FOR THE LOST CLIPS.. EVEN WITH EARBUDS... IT IS HARD TO HEAR THEM... MEANWHILE... YOUR VOICE COMES BACK THUNDERING RIGHT AFTER... DID YOU BY CHANCE WORK IN THE ADVERTISING??? SOUND COMPRESSION DEPARTMENT??
@LOSTEXPLAINED108
@LOSTEXPLAINED108 2 жыл бұрын
I went to the same school for sound quality that you did for writing in all caps. ;)
@OceanSoul1969
@OceanSoul1969 3 ай бұрын
God is the only one Who is good
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