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Louis Philippe French Antique Rosewood Armchairs circa 1835 (period furniture education)

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Myers & Monroe

Myers & Monroe

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This set of four rosewood armchairs is exemplary of fine domestic furniture circa 1835. These allow one to better understand furniture or decorative art which stylistically transitions between the Charles X period of the 1820s and the Louis Philippe period of the 1830s. The armchairs also conserve their original fabric which helps us to date them more precisely. Two side chairs also belong to this set, but I wast able to feature them as they were accidentally shipped to the USA (where they will eventually be reunited with these armchairs).
In the traditional timeline of the decorative arts, these chairs would be quite late (made during the dawn of industrialization which subsequently greatly diminished the quality of furniture, turning what was sometimes art into what was more decorative equipment). Anyway, it is interesting to explore such late pieces which are still tethered to the earlier "art" paradigm of making furniture. We could unusually qualify this very rare style/period as "transition Charles X - Louis Philippe," an accurate but obscure and amusing play on the official "transition" period which almost always refers to pieces during the third quarter of the 18th century (transition between Louis XV and Louis XVI / Rococo & Neoclassical).
As usual, I hope you enjoy seeing these pieces and many thanks for watching,
Cole Myers
Myers & Monroe, LLC

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@brettfine3444
@brettfine3444 3 ай бұрын
They are exquisite, and so is your French. If only I have that kind of money. Thank you, Cole.
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching and commenting as usual - Too bad the side chairs got accidentally shipped to America (there were a few more chairs to feature with this set)
@davidwall951
@davidwall951 3 ай бұрын
As always, thank you for your wisdom. And yes I also love the blue!
@oscarchagoya5985
@oscarchagoya5985 3 ай бұрын
I love love love the yellow
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! and I can't tell which fabric would be best - the white and blue one I like is sadly too narrow for these chairs.
@randyfloyd560
@randyfloyd560 3 ай бұрын
❤ Truly stunning chairs. Love the inlay and small size. I could imagine chairs like this in the sumptuous sitting room of some French heroine of a novel. Marguerite Gautier perhaps. I think they would look fabulous in the green. Shocking maybe, but what an impact in a room! Always a pleasure to hear you speak about French antiques.
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! And funnily enough I enjoy that lime green color a lot 😂… if you want to hear about shocking and the fringe of bad taste the thought of doing one chair in each color actually came to my mind … so maybe I can beat you in the bad upholstery ideas department. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@chateaudelamotte9527
@chateaudelamotte9527 3 ай бұрын
very nice and unusual armchairs.
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! They are pretty eccentric - the two side chairs are at my house in the states :( due to a shipping mistake
@wilgipp4653
@wilgipp4653 3 ай бұрын
Beautiful. The inlays are something to behold. Thank you for showcasing them.
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching - and yes I love these inlays too!
@12jack66
@12jack66 3 ай бұрын
Love this channel - never will find anything of the caliber in Canada but love to see it!
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this kind comment - and you never know what you might find! Even in France there isn't much like this floating around anymore.
@gordonidwan
@gordonidwan 3 ай бұрын
Not only are the chairs something to see. It is also nice to see you somewhat casually dressed. You look so much more comfortable sitting on and showing off the pieces. Webbing done well is always something I enjoy:) As always, keep up the good work!
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for such a pleasant comment. I try to dress up for the pieces but it’s nice to be somewhat casual too ! More videos to come - I’m planning on posting every two weeks
@chateaudelamotte9527
@chateaudelamotte9527 3 ай бұрын
You can buy fabrics from Tassinari & Chatel in Lyon one ot the few that still make fabrics. The royal châteaux in France and in other countries in Europe bought fabrics here in the 18th century. It's also possible to have an exact copy made of the original fabric in syntetic silk.I ordered that for a castle in Sweden made in Cortrai in Belgium, all the best Henrik
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!! That’s a good idea. Maybe the next buyer will have this exact fabric remade.
@Fred__
@Fred__ 3 ай бұрын
Those Lampas are not hard to find, but you are right, Tassinari et Chatel is pure luxury. Another old brand is Antico Setificio Fiorentino that still has old machines and lots of fabrics ‘encyclopedias’.
@jamesharris9474
@jamesharris9474 3 ай бұрын
Thank you for another beautiful and illuminating video. I am also very drawn to the Louis Philippe period due to exposure to it during my young years. As you so rightly remark, it is a very under appreciated period of really beautiful furniture. I generally really like French furniture, but some of it, while beautiful, is a bit too dainty for my use. I appreciate the refined robustness of the pieces from this period, which you have helped me define understand better by speaking of them as transitional pieces. Thank you for explaining the pieces and the period so intelligently. Keep the videos coming. A fan from Texas.
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
It is great to read a message from another fan of this obscure and under appreciated period - I find the daintiness of some French work to be concerning as well... it goes away during this time and the early 19th century in general - but even when it comes to earlier periods of French work, dainty is hopefully never a term one could use to describe the pieces on this channel haha. Thanks for your kind and encouraging words - more videos to come!
@christophersparano2231
@christophersparano2231 3 ай бұрын
Can't wait to watch this video... I've been waiting all week! Thank you for all of your hard work!
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you too! I appreciate that and will keep making videos 👍
@BobbyReed
@BobbyReed 3 ай бұрын
Green, green, please the green!
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
I wish I could go ahead and do that !
@beiderbecke1927
@beiderbecke1927 3 ай бұрын
I'm not really attracted to the form, and I really don't like it in mahogany, but these guys are unique, and I love them. The inlay gives them a vitality, even a playfulness, that I find seductive. It would sure be nice to keep the color of upholstery, it enhances that liveliness I find so appealing. Thanks for the tip on lifting chairs, I'll try to adopt it!
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
I definitely see what you mean per this type of armchair - This video is one of showing a rare special/attractive version of a model no one expects to like 🤔… at the end of the day that color might be the best compared to all of the currently available colors at Prelle
@richoneplanet7561
@richoneplanet7561 3 ай бұрын
Rosewood wow 👍🏼
@arslongavitabrevis5136
@arslongavitabrevis5136 3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much for another impeccable and informative presentation. Excellent advice regarding the way to pick up the chairs properly; had I not seen this video I would have done it incorrectly; by the way, never forget to keep your back straight when lifting anything heavy. I am not keen on the curved front legs as they seem short and stubby; straight legs would have looked better (IMHO). Regarding the colour of the fabrics, either red or that beautiful golden yellow would look magnificent. Regards.
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you again for watching! Yes my father tells me to watch my back too moving all these piece around! eventually I will take the advice to heart...Well this is a particular style - I think its fair not not like certain parts of this style. Really appreciate your comment - I'll have to leave the fabric choice to the next owner but you and Oscar have voted yellow (I quite like the yellow as the blue and white I like is too narrow for these chairs anyway).
@arslongavitabrevis5136
@arslongavitabrevis5136 3 ай бұрын
@@MyersMonroe Thank you very much for your prompt and kind reply. Yes, watch your back! 😁 I suppose French high-quality fabrics must be very expensive, and to this, we must add the upholsterer´s fees. What would be the price of this set of chairs as they are now? Have a nice Sunday! Regards
@th-uh2oo
@th-uh2oo 3 ай бұрын
Wish you would provide links to recourses that could be helpful with restoration of antiques .
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
There is a need for this information ... I have a few books in French on the subject but have basically professionally concluded that outside of cleaning pieces occasionally which just have surface grime - I will be hiring professional master furniture makers / restorers / finishers.... thats a whole life mastering restoration. I will try to synthesize some useful information and make a video on it though.
@brettfine3444
@brettfine3444 3 ай бұрын
Will you hire amateurs who have no knowledge of making/restoring furniture or carpentry but appreciate the beauty and value of these antiques? Lol!
@JR-nw4to
@JR-nw4to 3 ай бұрын
Great video! Not sure if you have covered this before, but I would be interested in learning about your background and how you got involved with the decorative arts etc.
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have not really covered this before! Will think of how I can add some backstory into future videos.
@MrThomas2587
@MrThomas2587 3 ай бұрын
I have a dining chair made of rosewood it has a very tight closed-grain. I hate it when you have a piece of furniture refinished that originally had the grain partially or totally filled and you get it back with all the grain now showing( my furniture re-finisher says, filling the grain makes it look like plastic furniture!
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Ah interesting per the plastic look - Well I think in this case these chairs look decidedly worse with the pores open (also because this was no aesthetic choice but rather one of laziness). It’s not a disaster though and maybe some people won’t mind the pores, but you can see some open pores in the nicely polished wood that break the seamless look imo.
@oscarchagoya5985
@oscarchagoya5985 3 ай бұрын
Cole what a most beautiful video and what a gorgeous chairs. I am so in love with your knowledge about antiques . Would those chairs be for a daily use or just as decor like in a museum? I would love you to make videos on how to care for our pieces of furniture.
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Thanks so much, Oscar! Well, a museum did come to look at them because with the fabric they are kind of interesting for a museum to display, but perhaps they aren't quite as fine as the other pieces I've had which museums purchased. These could be used, but would probably be best used as decoration in a home and only used occasionally.
@chateaudelamotte9527
@chateaudelamotte9527 3 ай бұрын
To me it looks like "bois de pallisandre" this wood became very much in fashion around 1840-1860 in Paris a very HARD wood and it has a typical strong and spicy smell if you work the wood, infact all wood have a special smell and you can by the smell know what kind of wood it is.The light colour of wood could be lemon wood?
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely! It is palissandre (which I have heard smells like a rose when you cut it? en tout cas "bois de rose" est un palissandre sauf si je me trompe. Well... great question on the lighter wood...I have often heard that it is either citronnier or houx.... When it has a nice shimmering grain I tend to think citronnier.
@chateaudelamotte9527
@chateaudelamotte9527 3 ай бұрын
to me "bois de rose is the wood often used from the end of Louis XV until the mahogany took over during the end of Louis XVI. "Palissandre" is much darker and used during Regence and beginning of the Louis XV and returned in the 19th century. There is also a confusion in the translation between English and French, so some words can be used for the same wood or different woods
@MrThomas2587
@MrThomas2587 3 ай бұрын
Hard to believe the finish is original on your chairs, have they been refinished at some time in 200 years?
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Oh Absolutely ! I paid to have them re-polished while carefully not disturbing the original fabric. They really needed it...lots of little flecks of inlay were missing and the dry never repolished sunbleached look really diminished the overall aesthetic. I did not get into the finish because the restorer I used did not fill the pores of the rosewood with pumice before polishing and that misstep really annoys me about the polish!
@bobolpatrick3789
@bobolpatrick3789 3 ай бұрын
ces fauteuil sont Charles X et non Louis Philippe
@MyersMonroe
@MyersMonroe 3 ай бұрын
Tout l'intérêt de la discussion c'est qu'ils sont les deux en fait. Il s'agit d'un modele largement d'esprit fin Charles X exécuté tardivement pendant l'époque louis philippe...d'où vient pour ce cas excentrique mon usage du terme transition Charles X - Louis Philippe.
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