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Kesinlikle ya ben bu kadar berbat bir çeviri görmedim daha önce

Niye çevirdiler ki? Niye normal o sayfadan devam etmeyip videolari gizleyip burdan çeviri yapıp devam ettiler?

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Fikret👎🏼🙄😠😤😡🤬🐍🤦🏻‍♀️…She will Never beat Defne’s BEAUTY…WHY? Because her Beauty comes from within❤️❤️❤️ She doesn’t need Blue EYES…and her Beautiful RED HAIR, SMILE, SINGING…Oooo…did you see her workout routine, WOW!!!

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İkiside yılannnn

@@zeynepnursedakocylmaz915 Hayret İze de yılan diyen olmuş 😂 Fikretten aslında hiç farkı yoktu Sadece Sırrı bilmiyordu Sırrı bilseydi of en beterini yapardı.... Çirkef Defne'nin yanında cinsel imalarda bulunan utanmaz , yatacak , içecek

😂😂😂

He’s just being concerned of her working so much. Geez, even that is a negative point for Omer.

😂😂

Thank you, Sibel, we have the same opinion!!!

Ömer Defne’nin çektiği kalp ızdıraplarını hak etmiyor

You are right, she was prescribed some kind of too sacrificial, all-forgiving love for him!! How could it be so easy to forgive this “yes”, and especially if it’s true... yesterday you were dying of love for her, a few hours later, you answer “yes”, if it weren’t for you, I would have loved Fikret!! What kind of sadism, or stupidity, how can a 30-year-old man not understand that it hurts to hear, and she asked this question out of jealousy, would hug, reassure, say no and she would forget everything.. But it’s as if he is purposefully causing her pain .. and then doesn’t leave Fikret at all!!!

​​@@karinehovhannisyan6473 Görüntüsünden dolayı Beyefendi ve bir kadının hayali olduğunu düşünen o kadar seyirci var ki !. Sadece gülüyorum!. Çünkü dizilerde erkekleri giydirirler, suslerler , en çekici hale koyarlar seyirciye sunarlar !. Oyuncu olmasaydı yolda görseler farketmeyecekleri bir TİP aslında...😂 Dışarı çıkınca o kadar yakışıklı, karizmatik , bakımlı ve çekici erkekler var ki !. Bir oyuncunun sadece Cool oynadığı bir karakter yüzünden yazdıkları saçmalıklar!. Senarist öyle bir Defne karakteri yaratmış ki Sadece Ömere değil herkese karşı NAİF, anında Affedici , Anında kötüye bile ona kötülük edene bile yardım eden Defne bu AHLAK yoksunu Fikrete bile sarıldı, iyiliğini diledi .... Kadın tehdit edip , Nişanlısını çalmaya çalışan ve gidip Nisanlina asıldım aşk itirafı yaptım ve reddetti diyerek utanmadan karşısına bile gelebildi Hatta Sırrı anlatarak kazanmak istemedim bile dedi Yani Sırrı anlatsa kazanacağını hâlâ düşünen ve bunu Defne'ye yüzüne utanmadan söyleyen Defne de o kadar SAF ki sarıldı, iyilik diledi Kadın MEKTUP yazarak düştüğü utancın intikamını almak istedi ..... Buradaki seyirci olan kadınlar olsa Fikret'in ağzını burnunu kırardı .... Defne'ye klavyeden yazmak kolay ... Defne'nin düştüğü duruma düşünce sen ( seyirci ) nasıl tepki vereceksin bakalım... Aşık olduğun adam senin duygularını zerre düşünmeden hareket etse sürekli bakalım ne yapacaksın!. Ömer emin ol İZ gitmemiş olsaydı .... İZ + Fikret + Defne ile birlikte üçünü de memnun ederek yaşamaya devam ederdi !!!!!. Defne'ye Aşkını sunar Fikret ile başarılara koşar egosunu kariyerini güçlendirir İz ilede eski sevgilisi ve Eskiyi yâd eder , birlikte vakit geçirerek hayatına devam ederdi .... Üç tane ona aşık olan kadın.... DEFNE KİM ki !. İz ilk geldiğinde ve Defne'nin bağırarak çektiklerini duyduğunda bile duygularını düşünüp İze mesafe koydu mu ????? HAYIR ! Ama terk ettiği halde Sinan yüzünden dönüp sırf Defne ile karşılaştığı için PAMİR yüzünden hesap sorabilir!. Fikret'in yanından ayrılmamasının sebebi de SELİM yüzünden Defne uçan erkek sinekle bile konuşamaz, iletişim kuramaz !. İnsanı hataya ve hata yapmaya sürükleyen özellikle karşısındakinin karakteridir !. Ömer'in karakteri !. Etrafındaki herkesi hataya sürükleyen bir karakter !. İnsanlar En çok Benmerkezli , yargılayan , duymayan , bencil , empatisi olmayan , gururu KİBRE dönüşmüş insanların yanında hatalar yapar Kişinin karakterinden korkmak İnsanı hatalara sürükler Hayatı zehir eder böyle tipler Ömer baştan beri duygusuz , Öfkeli , katı, ruhsuz , mutsuz manyağın teki ...... Karakterini kamufle etmek içinde Yakışıklı, zengin , Cool iş adamını oynadığı için Karakterini görmezden geliyorlar Görüntüsü = Beyefendi Karakteri = Dağ Ayısı

@@SibelS422 Sibel, bravo!!! Your words are like a balm for the soul, they very accurately described this narcissistic, tough person, and I will also say that such things change, and I don’t believe in his story about Ed, poor Defne had to believe him.. And God forbid I meet such a person in life...

I agree.

Es correcto. No hay comparación. Y si Defne le hubiera respondido que sí hubiera tenido una relación con Selim antes de conocerlo? Omer no lo hubiera tolerado ni perdonado.

2 wrongs Never makes it right or faultless😡

@@mariarivapalacio2362 What are you talking about? Our honest Omer calls Defne paranoid twice, then contradicts himself, says “yes,” and then says “yes” to Sinan again, that is, this is not just a word spoken in anger, but a conscious confirmation of the fact. Fikret interested him in some way and plus he found out who she was!!! I think that a loving man could not say this to a girl about intimacy with whom he had dreamed for a long time, and even if she asked to be honest, he should have understood what kind of wound he was causing her with his answer “yes”!! And I blame Defne here too!!! No agreement, no love justifies her such humiliation and such easy forgiveness on her part.. And this was the reason that he continued close communication with Fikret, his visits to her home in secret from Defne.. And by the way, he accuses Defne of Selim's visit, in the presence of the family, and his views on Defne, but does not accept Defne's arguments, in Fekrit's views on him, and Fikret's secret night visits to him and his to her!!! A man with double standards!!!

So why include Omer in blaming Fikret - he’s ALL BUSINESS when dealing with Fikret. He didn’t even answer any query of Fikret about the “phoenix”. He doesn’t have to because it’s a personal matter & wont talk about it with anybody. The ONLY person he talked about that was Defne. He was truthful about it but Defne’s UNREASONABLE anger at Omer is really something. Ok she’s jealous but it comes with having a relationship. Defne’s anger at Omer is borne from the fact that she COULDN’T explain to Omer her predicament/problem with Fikret - money she borrowed from her- without divulging her long, intensely guarded secret. She blew up at Omer in front of everybody, without thinking how her action would look on Omer! Defne’s social etiquette is ZERO. When she told Omer that “she’d be the one blamed again” she should really think hard about that. Everything that happened til now is because of her wrong decisions/acts.

she is still taller with sneakers

The original channel, Star TV, will not continue to broadcast old series from almost 10 years ago because before and after that they had many and multiple series up to now. They cannot continue to broadcast them forever.

Sibel hanım siz gercekren hak ehlisiniz ama neden düz yazi gibi Degil Şiir Gibi Yazıyorsunuz!???

​@@kullaniciadi777 😂😂 Bu diziyi o kadar çok yorumladım Analiz ettim ki Cümleler kelimeler duygulara karışıp yazılıyor.... Aslında hem Ömeri hemde Defneyi savunuyorum Ama bu sayfada Defne'yi haketmediği halde çarmıha gerip eleştirenlerle dolu olduğu için Daha cok Defne'yi ve Defne neden ? Bu durumda Kimse mükemmel, kusursuz olamaz diye Ömer'in BARİZ, NET yanlış ve hatalarını yazıyorum Defne'nin hataları Büyük çapta Ömer'in karakteri ve zorlamaları yüzünden!!! Ayrıca Ömer karakter olarak beyefendi gibi görünen ama çok çok KABA biri ! Bunu nereden anlıyoruz? İlk başta Oturuş tarzından Benim için metrolarda veya otobüslerde afedersin bacaklarını ayırarak oturan erkekler kabadır ! Ömerde sürekli genelde Oturuş tarzı bu ! Ve kadınlara Sınırlar çizmeyen ve amaçlarına ulaşmak için ARAÇ olarak kullanması O kadar rahatsız ediyor ki ! Ya Defne'den uzaklaşmak için, ya kıskandırmak için, yada ondan onu kendine çekmek için, ya da şirket çıkarı için.... Bu DÜRÜSTLÜK değil Ayrıca! Ve bu davranışları kimse kusura bakmasın Defne'nin Sır olayı var diye örtbas edilemez ! Davranışları kendi sorumluluğunda! Bak yine sana cevap verirken aktı gitti 🌼

​@@kullaniciadi777 Ayrıca Hak ehli diye beni güzel bir yere konumlandırdığınız için çok teşekkür ederim 🙏🏻🥰

@@SibelS422 o kadar haklısınız ki her dediğinize noktası virgülüne katılıyorum omer gerçekten çok kusurlu Bi karakter defnenin de hataları var ama defne zorunda kaldığı için yaptı o hataları omerin direkt karakteri öyle.. sizin gibi insanlar olması çok iyi🙏🏻🙏🏻🌸🌸🌸

@@SibelS422 rica ederim😅😅😅💕

True indeed.

But Ömer and Fikret look horrible together zero chemistry. Defom forever ❤

@@faizaabbasi302 I agree

😂😂😂Omer took it worse than Defne…My personal input regarding unfaithful relationships…I always fought those women in my nightmares…left her beaten & she Never came back…I guess I have this history of being like Defne (ELCIN) I my real life, where women will Never attempt to Flirt w/ my partner and if he chose that S*#% then, by all means GO, because it’s NO LOSS for Me…Good Riddens Loser!!!

In addition, it’s better to get rid of the Loser instead of Marrying the Guy!!! 👎🏼🤮🤮🤮 GOD has chosen someone else for me👍🏼😃❤️🙏🏼

While Neriman doesn't think Defne fits in with the family because of her lowly origins, Sude is busy taking revenge on Omer. The only way she thinks it will work is to use Defne as prey. Defne still doesn't recognize the bad in people. If Defne is injured from Sude's actions, then she has achieved her goal because she also hits Omer.

Mother daughter behaviour it's breaking

I'm sorry but there are still huge mistakes.

Men will always play stupid / “don’t know what you are talking about“ when they are caught.

She shows too much her love for him, some too obvious admiration for him, it’s clear that a girl’s first love and especially such a handsome man, but it was impossible to forgive him everything so easily!!! She constructs sentences somehow absurdly, cannot answer questions adequately, it seems that they are deliberately making her into such an indecisive, clueless girl! And then, once she gets smarter, they take her into account and ask for advice! some kind of ill-conceived plot!

Why would Defne feel bad with Omer’s answer. Her STUPID scenarios is SHE & Omer didn’t meet then but fikret & Omer did reconnect. So it could happen that they might fall in love with each other. Defne GASLIGHTING Omer- you have no comment on that. And the

I feel very sorry for Define in this episode after many struggles ( and yes I get the whole thing about the lies ) after finally giving herself to Omer he totally ignores her for several hours phone off no contact during his “catch up “ with Fikret . An old girlfriend And not understanding Defines feelings & insecurity he didn’t even hesitate before he answered the question knowing that this would hurt her . A guilty conscience maybe ? perhaps he actually thought about it Way to go Omer you really know how to make a woman feel special after sleeping with her . And then when Define leaves he doesn’t bother to check up on her spending all his time with Fikret leading the media to speculate about their relationship This episode really hits where it hurts

But she asked " what if we didn't meet " that's not omer's fault to answer evet for the girl who saved him when he was so down atleast he is being honest neither defne is not perfect she has no right to be mad for the honest answe omer answered her compared to the trunk of lies she's holding

She should’ve accepted the invite to do the catwalk…I’m pretty sure that her FANS would’ve Loved it. Well, maybe next time…maybe her singing; I would’ve definitely want to see more of her hidden talents❤️👍🏼😁

That would've been a game changer. But the way she took his breath away when she walked in the dressingroom the night of the show was so satisfying. He looked at her as if he was seeing her for the very first time 😊😊😊🥰

Urgently 😅

Sude was under professional care, as she was sent far to America by her parents. I think she looks like her unstable mother. It was said by her father in the yearly episode, when her mother called her and asked to come back from Los Angeles ( remember when Nachmi left Nariman ).

@@janovan5813 I do remember. He should have stayed away.. still don’t like Neriman

I said the same thing

she’s an evolution of neriman i hate them with a passion

I know, she's being too much and selfish , it frustrated me to 1:13:02 about asking the question what did she expected for omer to answer for the girl who saved her the day he was so bad

@@estherutamuliza935 selfish.....that's what she was..

I was pleased when Omer saw Selina at Defnes house and is angry, he felt it was ok for Fekrit to show up at his home or when he was going to her house at night or her inviting him to dinner,spending the day with her when they found out about the patch she made. Typical he was used to flirting with no consequences

Defne is the person who never asks something....she always offer support and love.....OK then....if you say so.😮😮😮

@@sandrajohnson4778 do you know what did she ask? When Omer said "you deserve nothing from me"... Remember, she never asked him something!

@@sandrajohnson4778 Did they " thanks" for pictures, did their pay for that? Did Defne ask payment, no all was for good!

Defne siempre estuvo con Omer en sus momentos difíciles fueran pareja o no. Cuando Sinan le entregó la colección a Tramba, Defne se tragó su orgullo y sus celos y olvidó cómo la había tratado Omer delante de Iz y lo convenció de diseñar una colección en 15 días. Gracias a ella la empresa no cayó en bancarrota. Se lo agradecieron? No. Le pagaron por las fotos que le tomó koray? No y gracias a esas fotos koray fue nombrado el mejor fotógrafo de Turquía y los dueños de Passionis engrosaron sus carteras. Gracias a Defne, Omer ganó el concurso, se lo agradeció? No. La que se llevó el crédito fue Iz . Cuando Fikret intentó desprestigiarlo, Defne se fue a vivir con él para protegerlo de esa mujer. Se lo agradeció? No. Más adelante a causa de esa mujer de la que Defne lo defendió, Omer va a maltratar a Defne y la va a humillar. Omer siempre acudía a Defne por un consejo y palabras de aliento. Defne nunca soltó su mano. Todavía en la segunda temporada, Defne estuvo a su lado por el problema del supuesto plagio. Se lo agradeció? No. Todavía acepta ir a la fiesta con Feryal, sí, esa mujer con la que flirteó en el pasado sin importarle la molestia y los celos de Defne. Defne siempre se preocupó por Omer. Por su bienestar. Cuando estaba abatido le daba ánimos. Solo ella era capaz de levantarlo. Por eso Omer es tan dependiente emocionalmente de Defne. Ella es su guía, su fuerza, su musa. Omer sin Defne pierde su guía, su rumbo.

@@mariarivapalacio2362 😍😍🌹thanks! You could write more than me, thanks! 💕👍

😂

Literally😂😂😂

@@Xafsayyy 😂😂😂 I’ve watched this part over and over non stop! He play too much! LOL

@@angeljazz22 Fr😂

iso is the only one with common sense here he’s great

defne’s lovd for omer is becoming like sude’s to sinan im annoyeddd

Bende sinir krizi geçirdim orda

Aynn onu bende gördüm

Aynen öyle tatlım bende sinirlendim

I know

But Defne put up with Omer. Man goes crazy if they see another man going after their women. Women stay with a man , but man if they see their woman showing interest in another man they dump them. Men will go find another woman who would want to be with them.

​@@gailahanour4146 Ömer neden gitmedi Gitmiyor İz, Fikret aşkını ilan ettiler ... Defne'yi terk edince gitseydi ya ... Onları özellikle İzi yedekte tuttu .. Gelirse diye Şık giyinen ve aklının köşesinde bulunduran ... Koşsaydı İze Eminim Ömeri yine kabul ederdi . Öyle gurursuzluk abidesiydi . Fikret için Evet diyen Ömer Gitseydi ya Fikret'in yaşadığı ülkeye... Bak Defne onu KANDIRMIŞ !!!. Koşsaydı bu kadınların peşinden

Bende öyle düşünüyorum haklısın ömerin büyük aşkı diye bize anlatılar sadece defneyi kulanmak defneye yaptıklarını ize fikrete yapamaz​@@SibelS422

But really Omer doesn't go overboard with those women, still keeping them in the friend zone. He can't be harsh or rude to them because they're interested in him. Remember when Fikret touched his neck pretending to remove a leaf, Omer was like what was that? He didn't even show any interest in the touch. But you see how he wants Defne's hand on him all the time. However you're right if it comes to Iz. He gave her room to believe she had hope. But really, if you have a man like Omer who loves you, count yourself lucky. The same goes for Defne. She adores Omer. But she's overreacting right now.

Ömer'in sevgisi tartilasmaz Ömer Defneyi çok sevdi defne Ömer i sevmeseydi düğünden sonra çekip gidecekti

You are right, she was prescribed some kind of too sacrificial, all-forgiving love for him!! How could it be so easy to forgive this “yes”, and especially if it’s true... yesterday you were dying of love for her, a few hours later, you answer “yes”, if it weren’t for you, I would have loved Fikret!! What kind of sadism, or stupidity, how can a 30-year-old man not understand that it hurts to hear, and she asked this question out of jealousy, would hug, reassure, say no and she would forget everything.. But it’s as if he is purposefully causing her pain .. and then doesn’t leave Fikret at all!!!

@@karinehovhannisyan6473 you couldn't explain this more better, you're so right.

@@karinehovhannisyan6473 But during their breakfast when she asked questions about the giver of the phoenix he also said that he might have fallen in love with her if he had met her earlier. After that he did reassure her but such remarks bubble up again and that is what happened now. And that after that 'intimate night' after which you did not even want to go to work.

OMG - Defne is incredibly annoying and so unappealing- I’m watching for Omer. How can he find her attractive?

Defne turned everything around & Omer is now the culprit! Thanks to that STUPID scenario & question to Omer which he HONESTLY answered & of course she DID NOT LIKE. She even GASLIGHTED Omer! Shen ended up NOT TELLING Oner AGAIN! That’s Defne’s M.O.

@pockynon Omer thinks that Defne is very attractive,and he is deeply in love with her plus everything she touches turns to gold.

@@CinqueTerre558 Have you forgotten the conversation during breakfast? Defne's questions and Ömer's answers about the girl with the blue hair? Defne is insecure and still thinks she doesn't deserve Ömer. We could also see Dart when she was crying on the couch in Sinan's house. All the words of Neriman, Sude and Fikret Galo played up again: she didn't deserve Ömer because Ömer fell in love with the created Defne, the gold digger and she is a liar who doesn't deserve Ömer according to Fikret. But Fikret of course forgets the lie she used when she came to Istanbul.

STEFNE SHOULD LISTEN TO OMER AND NOT LET HIM GO AND STAY TOETHER AND GET MARRIED RIGHT AWAY

@@maryannbedell1474 Auntie would have gotten the mansion, told everything to Omer, and he would have broken up with Defne! The result would be the same in all cases!!

Till the stage where defne told omer abt fikret, defne was not aware of fikret's feeling... It's her own insecurities bringing her worst side. And her interrogation with omer was her fear of omer leaving her.

​ @ridzyrid Ar this stage Defne is not afraid of Omer leaving her. It is her fear of what Friket can and is prepared to do to get Omer. Remember that Friket has been ruthless and unkind in her previous conversation with Defne...... Once she found out who Omer was.

Why can’t Defne just tell Omer that she’s insecure of Oner & Fikret’s reconnection instead she she had this STUPID scenario that if Oner didn’t need/know her before & fikret came & reconnect with Omer would he fall love with fikret. It MIGHT happen, so the HOBEST “YES” answer of Omer is ok. Why would Defne get mad - she & Omer DIDN’T KNOW each other! Omer can fall in love with any woman he chooses & Defne has NO RIGHT to get mad at him.

@@althearichardson6925oh she’s AFRAID of Oner LEAVING her. What fikret will tell Omer is joysticks ONE of Defne’s FEARS.

In Epi 41 what is Defne so freakin’ mad about frijretn seeing the designs AHEAD of her? WHY NOT, her designs is THE SHOW, those designs are collaborative work between Omer & fikret! It is STUPID of Defne to give meaning to fikret seeing them ahead of her. Btw,what was Defne’s contribution to that fashion in terms of products, I.e., shoes & clothes? NONE, right?!

DITTO!!! Totally Agree!😳🫢🤔🤨🙄😠😡😤You should be Lucky to have her…hard to find that Diamond in the ruff…appreciate & respect

Fikret will NEVER beat ELCIN (Defne) in looks, personality, talents, experience…😁👍🏼❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

​@@AnnaMarieNe👏👏👍

Omer made it clear to Fikret that they’re FRIENDS. Defne’s negative actions were mostly because she’s AFRAID that fikret will tell Oner about the money she lent to her.

It's true. And Iso felt bad he's someone that is careful with his words. He was truly shocked that Yasmine could say all that because of frustration. And coming from a different class background, he took it hard. Sinan has known Yasmine a much longer time and understands her erratic behavior. He's more tolerant. Different strokes for different people. But Yasmine should be careful. Sinan is the type that could tolerate for a long time but if he reaches the end of the rope, he will let go.

I think they just keep the hair frizzy as it is supposed be her natural as we’ve seen on Episode 1 when Omer gave her that kiss where their love story began.

@@MariaLear That's right. And Ömer once asked her why she didn't wear her hair frizzy anymore because he liked it more. Only they could buy a better quality instead of that ugly thing on her head.

Love this episode so much. Omer after tasting the forbidden fruit doesn't want any man close to his defne 😂😂😂.

@@stephanieukah3509 Very much agreed👍👏👏👏🇵🇭

And Defne after giving the forbidden fruit is bolder and can even push Omer aside and walk away. Hahaha.

@@stephanieukah3509Well said.😊

You watched NOTHING HAPPENED! What you have NO COMMENT on the STUPID question of Defne that was answered honestly by Omer? No comment on GASLIGHTING Omer by Defne?

@@CinqueTerre558 Defne asked Omer the same question earlier when Fikret had told her that morning that the phoenix was her design and that she had given it to a boy. Then Ömer replied that there was a possibility but that he had never found her again. Now he and Fikret have been working together for a few days and Defne asks the same question. Because bu Ömer knows who that girl with blue hair is. So he could change his mind. Shouldn't Defne have asked that after he had been unreachable for hours and she was waiting at home with dinner? In retrospect, I think that Ömer should have returned from Rome much later and found Defne married and with a son, who would bear the name of his father Ömer. And then her husband should not be afraid of his threats. That way justice would eventually be done. But yes, I did not create or write the series.

I agree. She is being unreasonable.

She is not. But Ömer will find out anyway and will then realize that he is the one who reacted in an unreasonable and unwise way.

Defnenin sorusu inanılmaz saçma ama Ömerinde öyle cevap vermesi ayrı saçmalık Sinan Yasemin sinir krizi geçirince ne güzel geçiştirdi mesela

@@neechan5432 Ya evet Ömer de kıskandığını anlıyor evet desem üzülecek siniri bozulacak diyee düşünüp eski eskide kaldı artık karşıma kim çıkarsa çıksın seni sevdim seni seveceğim öyle bir şey olmayacak artık sen varsın dese ne var yani ama defne de böyle bir açıklama yapmasına gerek bırakmasa vöyle saçma sorular sormasa çocuk gibi ne var sinirim bozuluyor bazen izlerken ikisine de

@@elliiiiff But he himself said earlier to Defne during breakfast that there was a chance that he would have fallen in love with that girl with blue hair if he had met her because she had played an important role in his life and made him see things. And then Defne replied: so your muse.

Buradayız burada 😂

😂

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​@_yQZqVYXXk3WxnogH61tTA-ct8il Ese siempre ha sido el problema de Omer. De no trazar una línea entre él y las mujeres que lo persiguen. Ellas podrán comportarse como quieran, pero es Omer el que debe mostrarse como un hombre inalcanzable, no disponible. Por eso ellas piensan que lo pueden conquistar

​_yQZqVYXXk3WxnogH61tTA-ct8il Omer tiene un concepto muy extraño de la amistad entre un hombre y una mujer. Esas mujeres que quieren tener una relación con él no son, ni serán sus amigas. Eso no es amistad verdadera. La amistad es una hermandad. Cómo puede decir, por ejemplo que Iz es su amiga. La primera vez que ella regresó simplemente jugaron un juego de seducción donde él participó desde la noche en que ella llegó. Ella intenta seducirlo, Omer la frena con sus silencios entonces ella insiste porque él le da permiso de intentar seducirlo al no poner un freno y no ser determinante. Está consintiendo ese comportamiento. "Él que calla, otorga " dice un refrán de mi país. Luego cuando la llama con el pretexto del trabajo, tampoco se pueden considerar amigos, desde el momento que él solo quiere olvidar a Defne con su presencia. Tampoco un amigo le pregunta a su amiga si no está celosa. Porque tendría que estar celosa si ya no son nada más que amigos.

​​_yQZqVYXXk3WxnogH61tTA-ct8il Así es. Iso y Defne son ejemplo de una verdadera amistad entre un hombre y una mujer. Son hermanos elegidos. No hay dobleces, no hay intenciones ocultas, no hay deseo por el otro. Recuerdo cuando Omer aceptó que Yasemin se quedara a trabajar dejando de lado "su etica" porque ella podría ayudarles con sus contactos e influencia en la prensa y que no se filtrara la separación legal de Passionis porque corrían el riesgo de que las acciones perdieran valor en el mercado y le advirtió que no volverían a ser amigos. 🤷‍♀️ Me pregunto cuándo fueron amigos? Ella era una colaboradora suya que todo el tiempo quiso seducirlo para atraparlo. Omer las considera sus amigas. Omer no tiene amigas, son mujeres que quieren una relación con él, no precisamente de amigos. Cómo ser amigo de una mujer, un hombre cuyas intenciones son seducirte, enamorarte, casarse contigo? Si ambos no comparten las mismas intenciones, los mismos objetivos es mejor dejar claras las cosas y alejarse. Eso es más honesto que solo dar falsas esperanzas a quienes consideras "tus amigos" . Este es Omer

@_yQZqVYXXk3WxnogH61tTA-ct8il Lo más absurdo es que se enoje con Defne y le de un ataque de dignidad. Ahora resulta que se hace el ofendido porque ella reservó una habitación para él y Yasemin. Fue idea de Defne? Ella lo decidió? Es obvio que fue Yasemin. Por favor. No le quedaron claras las intenciones de Yasemin en su casa? No es tan obvia al entrar en su privado de esa manera seductora? Es propio ese comportamiento en una empresa que se dice justa y ética? Simplemente Yasemin no muestra respeto por su lugar de trabajo, pero tampoco respeta a su jefe y Omer no tiene carácter ni siquiera como dueño de la Compañía. Cómo permite esos comportamientos en su empresa. Ya lo hemos comentado antes, no se respeta a sí mismo ni a su amada Passionis. Es una empresa el lugar adecuado para jugar juegos de seducción? Omer en ningún momento le llama la atención a Yasemin sobre su comportamiento incorrecto. Se alegra que se vaya con Sinan a Suiza. Si, quiere para su amigo a esa mujer inmoral. 🤣 Hay tanta hipocresía en estos personajes. El más hipócrita de todos es Omer que presume de rectitud. Por lo menos los otros no andan presumiendo por todos lados tener principios que no tienen. Bueno, creo que Omer se hubiera ido a otro hotel. No creo que se haya atrevido a tanto con Yasemin. Omer solo se deja querer, alimenta su ego, pero al momento de la verdad, retrocede.

_yQZqVYXXk3WxnogH61tTA-ct8il Para evaluar un libro, película, una simple serie tenemos que tomar en cuenta su origen, es decir del país del que provienen, el contexto, su cultura, tradiciones, usos y costumbres de la gente originaria de ese lugar. Es tonto querer evaluar desde nuestro propio entorno, contexto, cultura y educación. Si así lo hacemos, nunca la vamos a entender. Como las que se quejan de que Defne es demasiado inocente o de que no se besan. Bueno, esta es unas de las series que más besos tiene. A mí me sorprende porque la mayoría de las series que he visto tienen poquísimas escenas de besos. Dicen algunas que esta serie es muy bonita porque no hay violencia como si la violencia solo fueran golpes. La protagonista es violentada desde el primer capítulo. Hay quien dice que Omer nunca le faltó el respeto a Defne. Me pregunto qué significado tiene el respeto para esa persona. Lo que sí me queda claro es que los valores son universales. La ética, la honestidad, la humildad, el respeto, la lealtad. Solo que aquí el personaje masculino carece notoriamente de esos valores que presume tener por lo que resulta tan contradictorio. Lo peor es evaluar a un personaje sólo por su físico. Ese es su valor para esas personas, si es tan hermoso entonces necesariamente tendrá que ser bueno.

@@ebrarara No, in the episode when they met, she had dark eyes and blue hair. That's why Ömer could only remember that hair. Otherwise, he would have definitely recognized those eyes when he first saw Fikret. Or did he forget that feature?

Yes, that’s what I noticed when Omer remembered blue hair because I liked that actress with the brown eyes in another series! FAKE Fikret!!! They probably learned of the blue hair through our comments! Explain how the other actress’s Beautiful BROWN EYES turn blue w/o colored contacts. Careful & tread lightly BARIS! ELCIN is the One and ONLY Actress & Woman…Talented & her largest, kindest, generous & LOVING Heart…she’s a Unique Gem!😃👍🏼😍🥰😇🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼❤️❤️❤️❤️

Omer le dice a Defne que sí se hubiera enamorado de Galo de haberla encontrado antes, pero hace un escándalo cuando ve a Selim tomando café en la casa de Defne junto a su familia. Y si Defne le hubiera respondido lo mismo respecto a Selim?

Yes Omer it's true u and Frigret are both awful and disgusting. U had no respect for Defne, the morning u was full of love after a night of passion a few hours later u gave her that answer she didn't deserve it specially coming from u, u expect she must told u from her guest but did u inform her from u'r plans to visit the site where u first met the man hunter Frigret and she was at u'r house cause u invited her to come and stay over for the night. No Omer u and u'r big ego, u always busy flirting with other women but if Defne entertaining her friends u went on like this. She owns u nothing. Omer u and Frigret are so annoying 👎👎👎👎👎

​@@user-ri2lq6cb8t Realmente Omer mostró lo peor de su personalidad en estos capítulos. Insensible, egoísta, cínico. Merecía que Defne lo hubiera dejado desde esa respuesta o antes si hubiera visto cómo se portó con Fikret en su primer encuentro que convenientemente le oculta a Defne como sus posteriores encuentros con esa mujer

All faults found with Omer while the queen of liars gets a pass....what sort of assanine question did Defne ask Omer?.....what was the logic or reasoning behind that stupid question?.....if it was to pick a fight the she got her wish.....ya'll harp on Fikret and Yasemin and Iz but they really Emre not the problem.....waffling Defne was.

​​@@sandrajohnson4778 Pregunta astuta? Bueno, podría ser una manera de conocer los verdaderos sentimientos e intenciones de un hombre que no los confesaría abiertamente. Entonces resulta que el "inteligente " Omer cayó y se exhibió a sí mismo. Defne no es una mujer astuta, para empezar. No hay malicia en ella. Críticas a Defne por esa pregunta, pero no a Omer por su respuesta . La respuesta de Omer a una pregunta hipotética fue un contundente SÍ. Él como puede saberlo? Ya había pensado en esa posibilidad? Aquí lo que Defne ve es que Omer sí se siente atraído por Galo y lo reconoce. Defne debió de haberlo dejado desde esa noche o antes si hubiera visto cómo se comportó Omer en su primer encuentro con Fikret como un empresario seductor mientras Defne lo espera por horas en su casa. Ya Omer traicionó la confianza de Defne con esa mujer. Por supuesto, le ocultó ese encuentro a Defne y los posteriores que tuvo con esa mujer. Omer no oculta nada? Dónde escondemos sus mentiras? Omer es el primer mentiroso de la serie, pero le exige lealtad y honestidad a Defne. El doble rasero de Omer y de la audiencia que pasa por alto las mentiras de él y sus secretos o no le dan importancia, mientras llaman a Defne mentirosa

Se pasó de ingenuo, o se pasó de tonto o fingió todo el tiempo no darse cuenta de que Galo se sentía atraída por él? Qué más claridad que ella le pregunte qué serán? Pregunta estúpida, por cierto, pero ella ahí está demostrando su interés por él. Bueno, afortunadamente Omer le responde adecuadamente, pero lo que hizo al poco rato con Defne no tiene perdón.

If Defne had not recommended framing and hanging that simurg, Fikret would have returned to New York more quickly. She could never have used her and Omer's past as something important against Defne. Defne believed through the story of Omer that the giver was more important than was actually the case. Omer knew Defne's uncertainty and could have responded differently to her question. Just look at how Omer responded to Selim about being friends with Defne years ago. I saw no reason for jealousy. When SInan told him that Defne had gone to his villa, he even told Sinan that Defne may have been jealous of FIkret but that he had not known that it was so bad that she left. And yet he forgets it the next day with his sawdust head.

​@@ilsea31 🤣 🤣 🤣 Su cabeza de aserrín. Omer sabe que algo pasa entre ellas. Después de que finalmente obtuvo lo que tanto deseaba. Estaba feliz. Se le olvidó ese pequeño detalle o simplemente ya no le dió importancia. Omer se comporta a veces como un adolescente ingenuo que no se da cuenta cuando le gusta a una mujer. Puede ser que no vea las señales porque Defne ocupa su mente y corazón? Puede un hombre que ha estado rodeado de mujeres que lo persiguen no darse cuenta? Si se dió cuenta del interés de Galo por él, es peor aún su comportamiento. Minimizó la situación. No le incomodaba saberlo. Todavía lastimó a Defne, la humilló al lado de esa mujer y la llamó paranoica dos veces. Caminó de su mano orgulloso y feliz por la pasarela. La abrazó en el desfile frente a Defne. Ya antes había tratado mal a Defne delante de esa oportunista cuando Defne los encontró juntos. Omer alabando a Fikret. Pareció que le molestó que Defne llegara a interrumpirlos. En lugar de sentirse avergonzado le reclama por tonterías. Lo peor es que le reclama, como si fuera culpa de ella la forma en que Selim la miró y si Defne hubiera visto cómo miró él a Fikret en su primer encuentro? A Omer no le incomoda trabajar con mujeres que están detrás de él. Lo vimos con Feryal y con Yasemin. Ya vimos cómo después de que Iz le confiesa sus sentimientos, todavía le dice que no quiere que se vaya. Ella es su amiga por sobre todas las cosas. Egoísta.

@@mariarivapalacio2362 Omer dice algo pero actúa de manera diferente. Dice que Defne está celosa, va a verla a la casa de campo de Sinan, pasa una noche apasionada con ella y al día siguiente se olvida de lo que dijo sobre los celos. Cuando buscaron a Sinan, para la sala de lanzamiento reservada por Yasemin y no pudieron localizarlo porque estaba con Neriman, el señorito se irritó porque Sinan no respondió a su llamada. Esperaba que Defne lo llamara de vez en cuando cuando le pidió el resto del día libre. Ahora su teléfono está en No molestar y es inalcanzable. Y le miente a Sinan diciéndole que iba a trabajar en el programa con Fikret. Fue al lugar de encuentro de 11 años antes con Gallo momentos después de que Defne le dijera que ella es la chica del cabello azul. Pero Defne no tiene derecho a interrogarlo, mientras que él mismo quiere saber todo sobre ella. Actúa como un niño agraviado. Todo debe suceder como él quiere: el mundo debe girar alrededor de él y no alrededor del sol.

Me pregunto si realmente Omer no se dió cuenta del interés evidente de Galo por él. Fingió no darse cuenta? Si fue así para él no fue incómodo trabajar con ella. No le cree a Defne, según él. Prefere cerrar los ojos ante lo evidente y llamarla paranoica. La llama paranoica para después responderle que SI! No es un imbécil? Todavía se atreverá a llamarla de ese modo en aquel hotel. Vaya. No la humilló la noche anterior con esa mujer? No la abrazó en sus narices? No le acaba de decir Feryal que vió sus fotos y parece que hay algo entre ellos? Que puede surgir el amor entre él y Fikret? Omer es un verdadero asco como hombre y al decir "hombre " estoy exagerando. Un verdadero hombre no se portería como él

Fikret ömerden hoslaniyo defne neyine minnettar olsun

​@@ELIF-pj5uh Exacto. Debería de estar agradecida de que esa falsa mujer pretenda que Omer la deje por ella? Absurdo

First of all, Defne can only express in her story how she really is. Of the others, she can only tell what she sees or experiences. Why should she thank Fikret who helped her to cheat on her previously unknown boyfriend only to find out that Fikret is after the same boyfriend? So someone helps you to hide a secret from your boyfriend or husband and then she finds out that she wants that boyfriend or husband and then you have to give him up to her? When Fikret did not know that it was Ömer that she herself had her eye on, it was fine for her to help Defne. But now she suddenly has a conscience and dares to talk about honesty.

How many weddings are cancelled on the day itself? Anything can happen between now and the wedding day. The families have only met. They still have to get officially engaged with the ring ceremony and there is no date set for the wedding. So......