Had he went ahead and been king and they allowed him to marry Wallis and she was queen Consort etc Elizabeth would still have ended up queen since he never had any children. That's cool to think about.

Yes sir, I totally agree, film clips, I'd never seen. But as American may not been available to us. I became interested in David due to WW2 documentary, visiting Hitler, etc. Then Kings Speech movie, Then the usual, interview '69, or '70. Depending on labeling. The clip I not even aware of was Kings Story. New. To me. Never heard of it.

First time I have seen some of the clips, very balanced throughout the whole clip very informative.

I know, how marvelous! love them!

Thank goodness 😆

England might not have made it through the war....or, it might have had some seriously damaging upheavals... had the Duke not abdicated. He wasn't the leader his niece turned out to be. It's always going to be a weird little fairy tale that has some people wanting a love story and others arguing about incompetency. Who knows?

Poor Elizabeth, and she just wanted to be a Navy man's wife a little bit longer. Or a country girl, aristocratic with her horses. But she knew what had to be done at the age of 27. It became her turn. And God has granted her a long life. And she will go down in the history books as the longest living British monarch. Her story and that of her father and uncle will be told time and time again.

Well she did try to get out of it. She was honest about that. He threatened to kills himself if she left him.

That backfired!!!

They never and would never have their own children due to Wallis’ abortion from her previous marriage. Queen Elizabeth II would start her duty 20 years later than she actually was.

Actually, if he stayed on as King and remained childless, Elizabeth would still be Queen, just coronated later.

She would’ve been Queen in 1972 when he died.

Why did she have an affair with David then?

@@donnadurant4000 Both she and her current husband enjoyed climbing this social ladder and all the perks and gifts provided them by Edward.

Unfortunately we deal in rap - hip hop culture these days. As far from eloquence as one can get !

People cant string a coherent sentence together, not alone know the meaning of words they are using. Comprehension skills are zero.

Where are these letters available? It must be kept at a reputable institution otherwise it’s just hearsay...

@@TheEngenheira27 Google it "Wallis letters to her husband".

She got stuck with him

Yes about 15 letters to her divorced husband

She never loved him, you say, yet she stayed and lived with him till he died. Did you also live with them

Agree

Plus they were rich as hell and never went hungry like many children do in the world!

I think Edward was chronicly unhappy all his life and that didn't change after he met Wallis.

Their story was tragic, Wallis did not want to be Queen. She didn't even want to be married to him, for her, I think it was a mission of mercy in which she got trapped. After the abdication she had no choice, either marry him, or die! They both made the best of it but that was not good enough! A very sad story for both of them! On the bright side, we would still have the same Queen today! No children for Wallis and Edward, means Elizabeth would be our gracious and royal Queen, just a little bit later in the day. Mabey some of the Monarchies other crap would not have happened!

Wallis Simpson was basically a spy. She had slept with Ribbentrop and was passing secrets to the Nazis that went across Edward's Desk when he was serving in the British Military Mission in France. The FBI and British Secret Service suspected him of Nazi sympathy so gave him the governorship of the Bahamas. Oh and research the Marburg Files...yes they are real. Edward was not rich, they had an allowance of 10,000 pounds a year but that was stopped and Edward could not set foot in the UK without the express permission of the Monarch.

Yes, I wonder where on earth they got that idea!!

Read "Traitor King" by Andrew Lownie

Always many sides to a biographical story

Agree, I hate how she is slandered.

Never met him

Most people work for a living. These leaches could have attempted that.

It is indeed a sad story... apparently the duchess wasn't happily married either, there were recently discovered letters of hers revealing her unhappiness.

Beginning of story shows she wanted to back out.

A case of be careful what you wish for. She didn't love Edward. Didn't want him to Abdicate as she knew she was going to be stuck with a man who had been king and would be a loose Canon.

That’s exactly what I was thinking

The Duke of Windsor was incapable of having children. He was sterile due to mumps in childhood. Either way provision was made in the Act of Parliament for His Majesty's Abdication Act that all possible future descendants of the Duke of Windsor be specifically removed from the succession to the Throne. Either way The Princess Elizabeth was always going to be Queen.

@@ds1868 I don't know that the mumps story has been proven. Many have said that Edward didn't want children anyway as they would take a share of Wallis away from him. Also, she was almost 41 when they married. She may not have been fertile herself.

no, if he had served until his death in 1972 the crown would have passed to his only surviving brother, the Duke of Gloucester, who died in1974. His surviving son, Prince Richard, the current Duke of Gloucester, would be king now.

(Angela White) Your post cracked me up! Straight to the point and absolutely right! (To: Shelly Tracy)

I've read much about them too and I think the same way. He was crazy over her but she really didn't quite feel the same.

I agree regarding the jewelry! Original designs by them! They could have been jewelry designers in their own right. I had no idea. Stunning pieces!

Well, lets face it, if it were not for Wallis Simpson she would not be queen.

Why would the Queen love her Uncle David? She hardly knew him - but she knew it was his fault her poor shy, stammering father was forced to be King in wartime, and that the strain no doubt hastened his death.

@ Jaymes Guy - You are "spot on"

If it happened today he would be 120 years old

who what The man was a Nazi sympathizer who had been willing to be installed on throne as a puppet If the Germans had of conquered England.

And they worried because he was so sick he could have died before they got to visit that half hour....which would have been seen most inconvenient.

For a king, he was VERY flawed though.

Every one of us Nikki

It was enchanting!❤️

The Queen Mother, you mean?

What's the salary for a fashionable, "accomplished hostess?"

Queen Elizabeth wasn't jealous, she was furious with them, especially Simpson, because their actions put her beloved husband King George VI under enormous pressure which eventually led to his untimely death. Simpson used to call Elizabeth "Cookie" so I guess "Wally" got her comeuppance!

Queen Consort Elizabeth was brave, elegant, optimistic and unbelievably popular around the world, there was nothing to be jealous about. A her husband gained immense popularity during WW2 because of his bravery and support of the people. Wikipedia says the rumours about vindictiveness and jealousy are just rumours. Try to find proof of vindictiveness - you won´t find any. The decision not togive Wallis a royal title was a tradition-based decision of the whole family. Queen Consort Elizabeth just wanted to have nothing to do with Wallis.

He threatened to commit suicide when she told him she wanted to go back to her husband. You probably wouldn't want that level of dependency but I feel bad for him as well.

My Sympathy lay with his Brother who was flung onto the Throne and to hear him weep when he became Monarch broke my heart. He had hoped for a longer life as We Four with his family. I am sure he would have lived longer than he did. He was the better king in the end but at what cost to his life being shortened. He died at the age of 56.

@@racheldemain1940 Because of chain smoking.

The smoking caused his demise...

and a bottle of whisky every evening,

Holly ~ he loved the money and trappings of luxury that accompanied his "birthright". When he left England after abdicating, he took with him the equivalent today of about US$30 million.

@@drspaseebo410 True, Edward was utterly self serving and devoid of personal integrity. On abdicating, the monarchy had to purchase land and properties from Edward including Balmoral, which had been specifically left to him by his father. He could not be allowed to keep such important royal residences - and the new king and queen didn't want an abdicated king having such a prestigious bolt hole in England, with the risk that he would set up a rival court to theirs. So he was paid handsomely for this royal property. Nonetheless Edward pleaded poverty to his brother when they thrashed out the abdication pay-off. He claimed to have only a modest sum in the bank but had secretly squirrelled away a fortune. Over the years he regularly rang his brother asking for more payouts from the royal coffers - it was not unknown for him to refuse to take his calls, because he knew it would be another plea for a big hand out.

"They" don't choose for him. It's what it is. They are born into royalty and simply have to deal. His brother and niece never wanted to be the monarch. But his CHOICES put them in a position they could not escape from and they fulfilled their duties with dignity and grace. I wonder if he ever gave pause when the kingship unexpectedly fell on his 26 year old niece. I would feel so embarrassed and ashamed to know that i could have spared her that burden if I simply chose duty over self.

Nice thought, but a life of endless migrations by the season and friends who had money who would pay to be part of their coterie.

she actually was in love with someone else and got trapped into the former king. sad story

It worked for them. Sometimes the man doesn't want to "drive the car" in the marriage. Sometimes the husband wants to be second to his wife. Their marriage worked for them.

@@andyroo9381 But DID it work for them? In the end Edward died without his wife (who was nowhere to be seen) by his side. Don't you think he was heartbroken about that? What kind of marriage was that???

No it wasn’t that. Edward told Wallis that if she left him he would kill himself.

@@Maggie22002 That's exactly it! His suicide would have ruined her!

@Ted Ozdowski Yes it is, Kamala Kamala is right on.

Well it's not exactly cheerful.

Not entirely.

Definitely

How do you know that?

@@maureenleigh4724 other documentaries that tell more.

She wanted fling with royalty & it backfired. She got what she deserved. Selfish manipulated, greedy woman. Feel sorry for Edward (David) as had he received serious counseling this would not have happened & I feel he would have been an excellent King!

At last someone Who dares to speak te truth.🎉

News too me too me too , and I'm 63 . 🇺🇸✌️

Totally agree.

It is said Wallis still loved her ex husband and regretted a lot.

A very sad story…..

I think you hit on something there and facts to back it up.

Many of the games they were playing seem totally bizarre from the outside & are in many ways remarkable in that such great attention is paid to details which in the modern world seem totally irrelevant, but they are linked to customs which go back hundreds of years and are linked to Royal rank and precedence. HRH The Duke of Windsor constantly petitioned Parliament & HM George VI to give his wife royal rank. If he had succeeded in having her received as a royal, ie an official royal protocol acknowledgement on arrival into the country, or the fact that his wife had been officially received by a member of the Royal family (as officially recorded in Hansard) it would strengthen his case for this to happen. Once it was known at the highest level in Royal & the British Government what a traitor the Duke of Windsor had been, especially during WW2, that was never going to happen. Anyone who can conspire against their own country and actively act against them during a time of war, in my view deserves nothing but contempt. We were fortunate that he abdicated. George VI was a much more courageous man who worked very hard to fulfill the role he was thrust into, he was admired, and much beloved. Remember first the press embargo & then the Official Secrets Act meant that people in Britain had little idea of Edward VIII’s activities for many years. When he had vacations abroad with Wallis in the years before they married the rest of the world could see the pics in the newspapers, but she was edited out of all British versions. After the abdication his disrespect of the new king was not widely known, and his activities during the war were not released, and then only drip by drip, until many years after HRH died in 1972. If you want to see what he was really like find a good complete adult life history of ‘David’ - or read as complete a version as you can find of his letters. In my opinion they reveal an arrogant, shallow, petulant, unintelligent man, who even after his brother became king, could only think of the interests of himself and his wife. A fascinating, unique and strange time - but, in my opinion, Wallis’ -& later HRH DofW’s - exclusion had less to do with her marital history (though at the time that would be unacceptable to the establishment in the case of a prospective future Queen) than it did HRH’s continued disloyal behaviour in the years following their wedding.

Very simplistic and untrue

Yes, he was the closest to the Duke in any of the film versions of this story!

Edward Fix was so close in looks and speech to Edward V111 it was Amazing.

Edward and Mrs Simpson is a marvellous production and must be seen by anyone interested in Edward VIII.

It was made just after the duke died and before the duchess so I would assume the lawyers would be circling looking for anything to sue for

@nicole nicole She is sitting higher than him, he is leaning forward in an almost submissive position....

Vivien Humphreys The queen had been a child when he abdicated,she and Phillip had no personal grudge against them,the country were not against the marriage,but what the government knew about them made him quite unsuitable to be king.

Vivien Humphreys You notice even the queen mother kissed him and spoke to them.

yeh :how nice?!!'how nice!~??

Glad she failed as the world needed neither Simpson or Edward.

It's always fascinating to watch those born into power (well, ceremonial), prestige and fame fall from grace because they're deeply flawed, just like any other human, but the fall is made more impactful because they fell from so high. It perhaps suggests that nobody should be born into such high positions

How can you blame someone for not living a role that they couldn’t choose for themselves? I would hate it.

Having failed to marry the Prince of Wales, Elizabeth Bowes Lyon ensnared the younger brother and ensured that he would become King George VIth.

Wanting to marry the person you love is selfish? No. Prime minister Baldwin and the hangers on from George V's court hated and feared King Edward because of his modern ways. They were the monsters in this saga. They, and Queen Mary and Liz Bowes Lyon, especially EBL! If Liz had really wanted her husband to stay off the throne, she should have, and could have, accepted Walis as the kings mate and HELPED him and supported his choice. Such snobs! Such hypocrites! And they think they are chosen by God to rule over others! Far from it!

Well said!!!!

I'm not sure. Many said the only reason why Wallis did not conceive was due to stress over the many problems involved with the royal family.

Allie S No she was infertile.

Very severe. Kind of reminds me of the late Gloria Vanderbilt

Wallis's hairstyle did change some over the years. In photos and TV footage in later years her hair style was fuller and not so severe, a modified version of what she had in the 30's.

it seems like a manageable style though, unlike that of imelda marcos

He wanted mothering and domination. It was a mixture of master-slave and mummy - child relationship.

He could at least have been kept in a lesser position to help his brother. I have read that he was particularly interested in the impoverished and homeless population during that period! His brother could have given him jobs to relieve the pressure he felt in his reign. Having no job/purpose, goes a long way in diminishing one’s self worth.....it is sad that as head of a church and one would assume, religious, Bertie never understood the importance of forgiveness and being charitable!

@@ThePlataf Were you living with them? He is a man that believe in love and found the woman he loved. He was happy and loved his wife till death and that's what matters ❤️♥️♥️

@@finnsmom8470 A king is just a figurehead. Edward VIII was not trusted by the British government and establishment as he had led a not really serious life as Prince of Wales, and showed in fact little interest in his future role as king. Just not the right quality.

How do you know that lol

“Stuck with him for 35 yrs”, longer than most Royal marriages today! And as mentioned above, he threatened suicide if she would not stay with him: a very heavy burden to bear, for anyone with a heart and conscience. I suspect that she did love him after so many years together and all the hatred and scorn they faced together!

@@finnsmom8470 She knew she was trapped.

A case of be careful what you wish for , on both sides. He was bored silly in the end,

Correction - she "was stuck" with him.

Whats the big difference... If you said twice divorced, the assumption would be that she got married twice, and vice versa.

Brett Brett Twice married doesn't always mean twice divorced. She could have been twice WIDOWED, that would have been more suitable than twice divorced.

Brett Brett That would not have been assumed in 1937. Divorce was rare and very disreputable. Twice-divorced was unthinkable and considered promiscuous. I’m not advocating that view, b]just reporting that was how things were in 1937.

I disagree, I think he had a simpering looking face not handsome.

@@E-Liza-sg3ty Didn't age well

THIS FILM WAS SHORT UNLIKE OTHERS, BUT IT REVEALED EVERYTHIN. HE LOVED HER MORE AND IT SHOWED AT THE END.

Yes,and she begged him not to abdicate the throne for her,just keep it like it was,and he pushed things the way he wanted,not her☺

@@laurasmith3382 It brings new meaning to the old saying, "Be careful what you wish for!".

of course more her....they blamed her for everything. I'm sure she was uncomfortable..multiple death threats will do that to a person/

Pat Stokes probably they were terrified of saying and doing the wrong things all over again.

Amparo Howell she drifted...

@@janwilliams6539 😂

But she's so fashionable. And she's was an "accomplished" hostess" who looked in the mirror at least once a day to make sure her salon coiffed hair was perfect. And going through face lifts just to keep him happy. This was a tough job to have to sustain. All those parties are exhausting. Then having to move into a mansion in France, what a taxing life. How did they survive?

They were both so, so Needy. Both craved so much attention in their own way. Oviously, Wallis was wearing the pants (very fashionably of course) in that sad, pathetic, greatest love of the 20th century.

They were quite possibly the most dysfunctional and codependent couple of the mid-20th century.

Exactly....