The LIGHTEST Production Caterham ever! Caterham 170S and 170R

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Paul Woodman is our resident Caterham Academy driver. So it was only fair that he introduced Tiff Needell to the brand new Caterham 170!
The latest model from Caterham is their entry model, with a 0.6L Suzuki engine, producing 85HP. This new 170 model is the lightest Caterham production model ever, weighing just 450KG! It also debuts with Caterham's new, LED rear lights and will cost from £22,990.
Available as both the 'S' road pack and the 'R' track pack, which comes without a windscreen. You can even build these little cars yourself!
Tiff and Paul test the two 170 models on track. A Le Mans 24 hour driver, vs. a Caterham Academy driver, who will drive the best! Safe to say, driving a Caterham is about the most fun you can have in a car!
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@lovecarsTV 2 жыл бұрын

Would you take the 170S or the 170R?

@liberisempre 2 жыл бұрын

@Felniak 2 жыл бұрын

170R, looks amazing with those seats.

@ChasingDifferentAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

In the United states car is not street legal without a Wind Screen, there the 170R.. Great to see Tiff still has the Fearless Competitive Edge, he's still a sharp blade like Knight 👦🏻👍🏻🏞🏁 Awesome looking track too, looks like great fun. Thanks for sharing

@4039byrne 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like a few creature comforts so I think the s for me. Although I'm pretty sure me being 6ft 5 I can't fit in one anyway

@ChasingDifferentAdventures 2 жыл бұрын

@@4039byrne I'm in Los Angeles California where if you have a RagTop Thugs would break in to try and Nick it or steal anything from inside it. Air Conditioning is very important too me, it was a 103 F (39.44 C) Therefore for me it is a FastBack Mustang currently driving a Performance Pack 2 2016 and enjoying Pacific Coast Highway in it. Incidentally, returned from there no internet, 1 Petrol Station with in 400 miles of either side n a winding canyon coastal road. I even have footage of it and fueled half a tank 7.5 gallons at $64.00 USA it's $8.50 / gallon in February it was $7.50, thanks to Biden Administration initiative for only Electric in 2030 he upset Middle East and they won't sell fuel to USA.

@TheKrazyKat89 2 жыл бұрын

This looks like an excellent "fun weekend car": barebones and lightweight means the experience is intense at any speed and the low power means it's hard to get in trouble. I would like to see some footage of the car being driven on b-roads or mountain roads.

@lovecarsTV 2 жыл бұрын

This pretty much sums it up! Caterham have lots of footage on their website!

@grahamw56 2 жыл бұрын

It's not 'low power' in a car that weight. Yes, you can still get into trouble. (I know from experience).

@izzelyy3189 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what i was looking for. Please make another video about this little gem, i can't get enough of this !

@lovecarsTV 2 жыл бұрын

We'll see what we can do! Head over to Caterham to see more though! 👍

@deseast1267 2 жыл бұрын

I have a crossflow 7 with 167hp, but I believe that virtually all flavours of Caterham will bring a smile to your face, I also am lucky enough to own a powerful German sportscar but the Seven is always the go to ride if I just want to have fun driving and that fun doesn't have to start at the licence losing speeds. I can't count the number of times I've just 'popped out' to get fuel or some other items and come back home hours later with less gas than I started with.

@Pesmog 2 жыл бұрын

Exactly the same as with mine.

@ShotoMasters 2 жыл бұрын

This perfectly sums up the feeling of throwing a Caterham round a track. Pure fun. Smiles all day.

@Theoriginalramjammer 2 жыл бұрын

Not many cars on track you can perform celebratory fist bumps whilst in motion 😎🏁

@colinbremner9030 2 жыл бұрын

Tiff you're a lunatic, but we love you for it. legend would have to be the R

@auwz66 2 жыл бұрын

I love how Tiff is chattering away like he knows nothing about Caterham, yet he has driven plenty over the years!

@ryansmithza 2 жыл бұрын

Give me some of this type of driving over the massive hp stars that catch all the headlines these days! I think I might prefer a similar style lotus Elise but just about anything that I can drive at ten tenths all day will make me happy!

@lovecarsTV 2 жыл бұрын

The most fun you can have behind the wheel of a car! 👍

@magnustan841 2 жыл бұрын

Massive horsepower is not for driving fun for sure, plus i think there are more than enough pure drivers cars out there to satisfy our list, it’s just that like you said, they mega flashy stuff gets most of the attention and the coverage, not many are aware of the simpler sports cars unless you dig deeper. They’re like the diamond in the rough, Alpine A110, prime example. Still, that’s not to say a F8 Tributo or a Rimac Nevera aren’t cool, it depends on what speaks to you.

@lauriehwrdlh 2 жыл бұрын

Since its release I've been so close to pushing the order button, on the configurator, so many times...

@NafaratMiyaMiya 2 жыл бұрын

I never tire of Tiff's antics ... what a legend!

@Ianzandvoort 2 жыл бұрын

I will visit the Open Day at Caterham at April 30, can' t wait to see these models for real.

@ianscott3180 2 жыл бұрын

You can buy an older on for half the money or less and get the same fun. I bought a 1700 crossflow with a 135 bhp a few years ago. Great fun and I lost less than £600 pounds when I sold it four years later. They are easy to service, just make sure that you have somewhere to keep it secure.

@alexanderfirmin9792 2 жыл бұрын

Bizarrely, this was one of the great motor racing videos for me. Well done chaps 👏

@djefferson02 2 жыл бұрын

Great video lads!! I smiled all the way through that.

@RichardFanders 2 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this video. Great to see you both racing each other.

@iantownsend500 2 жыл бұрын

That looks enormous fun. I read some where it’s £6,000 down payment & £200 a month. Don’t know what spec that was, probably base & build it your self but still not that expensive

@kignacio 2 жыл бұрын

It’s cash only over here 🇺🇸😭

@joaoluistavares6046 2 жыл бұрын

Always great to watch a race like this one.

@bennetulbricht9922 2 жыл бұрын

Thats was very enjoyable to watch

@kramnam4716 2 жыл бұрын

How much fun did they have🤩👌

@bennetulbricht9922 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing car, amazing video🤝

@apexerman1 2 жыл бұрын

Terrific video! That looked as fun as I thought it would. I think the old adage "it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow" really shows! I like the old school narrow tires and compliant suspension. Ah, we gotta enjoy this last blast of internal combustion fun before electric power seals its fate.

@magnustan841 2 жыл бұрын

It’s not like EVs can’t be fun, you just have to remind yourself to not think about V8s and enjoy EVs for what they are. Even the Mercedes EQS can be really cool, it makes a famtastic whirring noise in sports mode and it’s the closest challenger to Tesla we’ve seen yet. Just a shame it looks so strange.

@apexerman1 2 жыл бұрын

@@magnustan841 - Well, I own a BMW i3 and it's a fantastic commuter car. It's quiet, offers prodigious acceleration, allows for one-pedal driving and easy charging at home. However, the drive is rather antiseptic. And frankly, the acceleration gets one dimensional after a while. A ICE Caterham would be a polar opposite... visceral, involving, loud, elemental, throttle/clutch and shifter action that rewards deft application... THAT is driving machine. That's not to say there won't be fun EV's out there, but at present, it's a bit tepid for me.

@magnustan841 2 жыл бұрын

@@apexerman1 It’s early days for EVs, they’ve only been around for 10 years, with hardly any EV sports cars, so we don’t have any reference to compare EV with ICE. But if the Porsche Taycan is anything to go by, we can be optimistic for the EV equivalent of the Cayman/Boxster. Also can’t wait for brands like Lotus and Alpine make one too, or even maybe even Caterham.

@apexerman1 2 жыл бұрын

@@magnustan841 - It'll be a different kind of fun, that's for sure.

@magnustan841 2 жыл бұрын

@@apexerman1 Yeah, plus because there’s no engine to cloud people’s perception, the electric sports car will be truly be differentiated on how they feel and how communicative they are through the bends and how easy they are to use as everyday tools.

@911TVR 2 жыл бұрын

Love the super 7 since watching the prisoner

@lovecarsTV 2 жыл бұрын

It's a great little car! 👍

@YSekiai 2 жыл бұрын

They are very fun toys!🏁 I love them!💕

@woodrow_mayes 4 ай бұрын

Never wanted to have a go in a "new" car more this

@old_toucs6283 2 жыл бұрын

If you want a car like these get one now! The future is going to be robot pods organized by uber apps. Even owning an ordinary car will be as unusual as owning a steam traction engine. So do it ASAP, I just bought a 160s :)

@mukulnag1578 2 жыл бұрын

That 170r looks so much fun...

@henryheaton 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!! These little 170 Caterhams look like great fun! Dare I say it....looks like PW had the edge on Tiff around the track too? Surely not!

@richspjones 2 жыл бұрын

Brilliant! Either would do, as long as Caterham put them together for me!

@JURacing 2 жыл бұрын

That was a great video. Made my day. Both of you in one car is a bit like Waldorf & Stadler :) I take the "R" - thank you :)

@Mexxx65 2 жыл бұрын

So..what are they like to drive on the road Given all the effort in telling us in this video, they have road suspension fitted.

@rulyr.8122 2 жыл бұрын

What a fun car😳😍 !

@lucaconti2460 2 жыл бұрын

Great Tiff!

@d.c.Jones70 2 жыл бұрын

Just brilliant nuff said

@thebezelboy 2 жыл бұрын

Tiff is always my HERO

@iantownsend500 2 жыл бұрын

440 kg that’s impressive

@Oosh21 2 жыл бұрын

Paul matches the seats. Must of set the tanning bed to biscuit.

@thecaterhamcave 2 жыл бұрын

Cool video!

@testdirver 2 жыл бұрын

graphical definition of fun

@ZesPak 2 жыл бұрын

0-60 is indeed not important, there's a Tesla for that. This looks like tremendous fun.

@300bhpton 2 жыл бұрын

Nice video, but it would have been nice to know a bit more about how each drove. Was the 'sports' suspension worth it? And how does this model compare to buying a used Caterham for about £20-22k? Is the the 84bhp lacking on road compared to say a K-Series or Sigma powered Seven?

@staysikth 2 жыл бұрын

Tiffffffff! Im off to drive his Lister Storm in AC now.

@veefource 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid but how do they compare? Especially whether a limited slip diff is worth it at this power?

@pauldowner1 2 жыл бұрын

"With Tiff now comfortable" - So funny!

@derbender9264 2 жыл бұрын

The R, always 😊

@Booka3141 2 жыл бұрын

Id love to know the actual cost for caterham to produce these at this point.

@Official_MikeyT 2 жыл бұрын

I imagine they have very healthy margins on these cars. Everything about them is inexpensive and easy to produce. That's why we can buy these awesome machines for cheap and drive circles around most other people at the track day.

@93455Driver 2 жыл бұрын

Tiff always complains about Paul's hand gestures....but Tiff was doing semaphore!

@bruizey7319 2 жыл бұрын

I reckon if you bought the base model, and left out a few screws putting it together, you could achieve R model power to weight and spend the rest on track fees!

@MIZO7 2 жыл бұрын

what a car...

@Gravengaard 2 жыл бұрын

Aaarh, the sweet K6A sound - not far off the F6A

@cps0go 2 жыл бұрын

やっぱいいなぁケータハム。欲しい！

@wolvoman1 2 жыл бұрын

Did he scrape the underneath at 4.44?

@jatzbethstappen9814 2 жыл бұрын

Paul, did I see you floating around at the Monza GP?

@SnakeyUk08 2 жыл бұрын

Might be camera trickery but im sure Paul`s track driving has improved alot since his caterham racing ,obviously is a better driver than me but just saying....😜

@lovecarsTV 2 жыл бұрын

😂

@liberisempre 2 жыл бұрын

DIVERTIMENTO ALLO STATO PURO...DOVE L’ELETTRONICA NON C’È O POCA,VA SEMPRE MEGLIO...

@rodshop5897 Жыл бұрын

OK, how far do I need to have a 170S taken apart so that I can import it to the US? Caterham USA's website does not really cover this car. 84 HP would be plenty for me in such a light car.

@roadreg1820 2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t realise you could get one for less than 30k… now I’m dreaming 😂😍

@perrosdemaiz 11 ай бұрын

Dreamy

@Odin889 2 жыл бұрын

When do the new catherham racing vid come?

@alanhillyard1639 2 жыл бұрын

Why aren’t the floors lowered as standard, then if you are a real shortarse you can just pay for 4 spacers at a couple quid each, doubt many are so small they won’t be able to see over the scuttle of a caterham

@theahmadperson 2 жыл бұрын

Hasn't there been a 160 with this drivetrain for about 7 years?

@SgHawk144 2 жыл бұрын

Released in 2013, yeah. The 160 was discontinued for a while so this is the ‘revival’ of the philosophy I guess.

@blairmcconachie 2 жыл бұрын

Yes but the original engine got discontinued by Suzuki I believe and this is the replacement engine so new model 👍🏻

@danr3546 2 жыл бұрын

No- the 170 has a A-Frame rear end like the bigger HP caterhams and also now comes with LSD in R spec form

@martinfisker7438 2 жыл бұрын

I love the "less is more" philosophy, but the entry level 170S is 56k GBP in Denmark.... And you are not getting a whole lot for that money

@jacobmoses3712 2 жыл бұрын

Why some much? Taxes?

@martinfisker7438 2 жыл бұрын

We have 150 percent tax on registration of motor vehicles over a certain price point (only a couple thousand dollars).

@turningpoint4238 2 жыл бұрын

My sort of car, no computer between you and the road, cheap so when I crash it no problems. Learnt as a teenager horsepower isn't a metric needed for fun and rear wheel drive is. Only question does it come in a fat boy version?

@ianashton1593 Жыл бұрын

There is an SV, slightly longer and wider, I’m 6’ 2” and fit comfortably 👍

@patthewoodboy 2 жыл бұрын

a 4 wheeled motorcycle.

@liberisempre 2 жыл бұрын

SALUTI 🇮🇹

@lovecarsTV 2 жыл бұрын

👋

@liberisempre 2 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹

@lucagattoni-celli1377 2 жыл бұрын

Smell for leather

@esametsala3054 2 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍 🧚 🇫🇮

@-Barracuda-426 2 жыл бұрын

0-60??

@lovecarsTV 2 жыл бұрын

6.9 seconds! 🤫

@-Barracuda-426 2 жыл бұрын

@@lovecarsTV not bad.. thank you Sir

@lovecarsTV 2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

@motorkamperen 2 жыл бұрын

Why oh why is it so narrow in the interior!

@howarddavies136 2 жыл бұрын

Why would it need to be any bigger?

2 жыл бұрын

Because that part of the car was designed almost 70 years ago. :D

@Kraven83 2 жыл бұрын

They need to make a version for people taller than 190cm

@deseast1267 2 жыл бұрын

@@Kraven83 They do make the SV Seven, although not in this version, it's both wider and longer in the cockpit dimensions.

@mrpmj00 2 жыл бұрын

.I love cars too (I have a 2017 Corvette C7 with the fun manual transmission) but it ain't free and stocks are one way to make money. .,,AMAZON: Yep, I bought a ton on the dip. It's getting cheaper relative to its current earnings (half compared to last year). ...With the Delta virus coming at full speed ahead, pandemic sales will make a comeback. Amazon's not going anywhere so I know that eventually it will come back. Fidelity considers Amazon as a large growth company (probably because as big as it is, it still only has 7% of the retail market) buying via Amazon Smile donations donates some money to my favorite charity too! Get on board or be runover, it's up to you.

@davehenry462 2 жыл бұрын

Meeh...

@carlmarkwyatt 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not a horsepower snob but 85 isn't really enough for me even at only 450kg. 130 ish would be about right.... initially at least haha

@kignacio 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah if a 500lb motorcycle needs 85hp then I could see this needing to break at least 100. But fun at speed/momentum no doubt. And downhills.

@carlmarkwyatt 2 жыл бұрын

@@kignacio 100% agree. I used to have a 165hp/320kg motorcycle and felt it's straight line performance was spot on and exactly what I would like for a lightweight sports car.