LOW-End MacBook Air M1/8GB in Music Production (Ableton 11/12 & Logic)

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How the slowest "M" MacBook Air (M1, 8GB, 2020) works in music production projects.
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0:00 - MacBook Air in Music Production
3:07 - Logic Pro Test START
9:25 - Logic Pro Memory Usage
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@Schrodingerscomment 2 күн бұрын

I bought the M3 iMac 24' (Full Spec), when they released at end of October last year, for uni, but also with the intent of learning to use 3D Modelling/Printing software, video editing, and most importantly, music production programs such as Garage Band. Every time I see one of these "Can you do ......, on a base model MacBook Air?", I grow happier with the fact I didn't hold back when configuring my iMac at purchase, and that I opted to "Spec Out" the M3 iMac, instead of going for a lower end M3 Pro/Max chip in the MacBook Pro. Great Vid! 👍🏻 ✌🏻from🇦🇺

@8washburn8 2 ай бұрын

Super helpful video! Theres a ton of misinformation out in forums, but this is a real proof that theese machines still cut the edge. Thank you!

@bosonbreeder 3 ай бұрын

Great video! Setting the number of available cores in Logic to 8 instead of "auto" makes a huge difference as well. Also, freezing a couple of tracks your're not currently editing never hurts.

@raw_pc 2 ай бұрын

Exactly what I needed right now :) M1 Air is a small beast. Thank you for sharing!

@bjornark 2 ай бұрын

You are welcome! Thanks for watching.

@iamyila 3 ай бұрын

More than enough, end video

@samgruse3824 3 ай бұрын

I've been using a 2013 Macbook pro with 8gbs of ram for the last 10 years for Ableton. It's lasted me soooo long and I've made some good songs with it but now it's showing its age. After watching your videos I just ordered a Macbook pro M2 pro chip with 16gbs of ram. Looks like the M2 chips run Ableton better than M3 which is why I opted for the 1 year old Mac

@albertorobinson7611 3 ай бұрын

cheers always very helpful

@bjornark 3 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@Jojo37122 3 ай бұрын

Progressive House ❤❤❤❤

@nukenoly8751 3 ай бұрын

Yeah that MacBook Air M1 is a jewel 💎 and best Air ever. The base model can do everything but get 16GB if you can

@MadelnMachines 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for this. Very helpful. I'm sure an M3 Air with 24gb ram and 2TB could handle any electronic music project i'd want to make. It's always tempting to spend more though - for £1000 extra you can more than double the cpu power and get 12gb more ram. Seems worth it. I don't think the 16 core is worth it over the 14 core but if you want more than 36gb ram you don't have a choice. I'm not really sure the pro chip is worth it over the 8 core but the max certainly is.

@thomasolender3427 3 ай бұрын

Could you also try to play along some notes with e.g. Diva via midi while a track is running to see, if there really is no latency?

@nerdpunk8922 2 ай бұрын

I wish somebody would do one of these tests with this MacBook in Reaper.

@Wainster 3 ай бұрын

Always enjoy these vids... I think my start system would be built around Logic and M1 Mac Mini. Used, but with 16GB & 1TB for some headroom... :) A used Studio M1 Max also looks wicked in the Logic benchmark scores too, but it still holds a high value which puts it out of reach...

@bjornark 3 ай бұрын

I think that when Apple release updated Mac Studios with M3 we will see discounts on the older Mac Studios. Then it might get to a reasonable entry price for used/discounted models.

@Wainster 3 ай бұрын

@@bjornark It will be interesting too, to see how the M3 version of that does once released too. It's all interesting regardless :)

@ElectroPanPipes 3 ай бұрын

Getting an M1 at those specs is difficult and people want prices close to what you'd pay for M2 mini. I bought an M2 Pro, so it came with 16GB. I just use external SSD's for sample libraries. It generally runs 100-150 tracks in Logic no issue.

@Wainster 3 ай бұрын

@@ElectroPanPipes I've seen several M1 Mini's with 1TB+16GB sell for £750 and under in the UK. £685 including postage. You have to be prepared to look daily and wait. To save 45% off retail price, it's worth it.

@ElectroPanPipes 3 ай бұрын

@@Wainster Like anything, things come up if you wait. I opted for an M2 Pro as the performance and warranty was worth it to me. Storage not so much, as I have 10TB externally already.

@JRay517 2 ай бұрын

Well heres the thing, i do music too, on a late 2013 that was top end at the time, with 32gb ram. Thing works amazingly well with new plug ins, can have 50 tracks without a sweat. But i should upgrade. Im just poor, so its either a mac mini like this or a souped up windows mini pc (just got a push 2 ) and going to start using ableton and get performance down. Any input?

@Andrea.Zechmeister 3 ай бұрын

I had Windows 10 and 16 GB a long time ago My first Mac Book Pro since 2013 which still runs with Ableton 11 and 2000 Mb bufferby 47 Sample and sometime 60 samples into project have little bit drop out by headphone is all better Mac Book Pro 2015 /2 Core 16Gb ram

@rmselector 3 ай бұрын

im using the lowest end macbook air. It works better than the m2 pro base models

@jasonshrestha 13 күн бұрын

i want to use keyscape and other vst with the lowest latency possible, which is possible with 32 sample. does it click and pop in this setting ?

@SERJACINESCOPES Ай бұрын

Tbh this is more than enough for me..becs I don't produce that heavily..My maximum tracks be like 30/40 maybe..and I use studio one which is probably the lightest among daws..

@bjornark Ай бұрын

Yeah, then its good enough for you most likely. :)

@richertz 3 ай бұрын

Jumped from M1 air to M2 pro, so much better, more power, more ports, and a much better screen, even though 14 inch the contrast was so much easier in the eyes.

@bjornark 3 ай бұрын

The 14 Inch is more or less the perfect laptop. You get some more performance cores as well if you get the right one. Good choice.

@richertz 3 ай бұрын

@@bjornarkyes I got the 12 core (8 performance cores). It’s definitely the best overall for DAWs.

@Aless6996 Ай бұрын

I just recieved a macbook pro m1 8gb and I was curious if I could use Logic Pro safely with only 8gb and this video has been very enlightening. I am now ewncouraged to pick up music production again after some years of halting. My only question would be if it handles audio recording with ease, since I want to record some vocals. I would be using an audio interface (UA Volt 2) Many thanks

@bjornark Ай бұрын

Yes, should work just fine.

@igorsim8170 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for video. What you think of Pro m1 16gb Ram? Thanks.

@bjornark 3 ай бұрын

You are welcome! The answer you seek are at timestamp 14:37 in the video... ;)

@budgetkeyboardist 3 ай бұрын

My 8 GB M1 Mac Mini is more capable than my 16 GB 2018 MacBook Pro by a pretty good factor. If your needs are modest, 8 GB of RAM on an M1 can work fine. People who say "It's not enough" are not taking into account any variables. It's enough for many uses, but not for all.

@Marco-ek8wu 2 ай бұрын

Same here. M1 Mac mini, 8GB ram, 500gb hardrive. Ableton 12. More than enough.

@danielribeiro4618 3 ай бұрын

Im actually searching a new macbook pro 16" to replace my old late 2014 macbook pro laptop. Would you recommend to buy the 16" M3 max over the M2 max (mostly for ableton 11) if the price are +- the same?

@bjornark 3 ай бұрын

If the price is the same? Then yes, go for the M3.

@danielribeiro4618 3 ай бұрын

@@bjornark yes, for the 14 core... I had the chance to buy a new M1 max 16" but I was afraid about less apple support (-2 years) so decided to go with the M2 pro or M2 max almost same price. And now the M2 max is almost the same price as for the M3 max (14 c).

@AmbivalentMind 14 күн бұрын

Is the 13 inch screen large enough for comfortably using Logic? I don't want to get a 16 inch MBP, it's way too chunky, but I am considering a 14 inch MBP.

@bjornark 14 күн бұрын

I think 13 Inch gets a little tight.

@hasenakkhaya 2 ай бұрын

ok great video but i d like to see the cpu temperature values as well. since air models dont have a fan cooling system, after certain amount of high cpu usage time, the cpu starts throttling to cool down the system. why is this important? not all the ableton users are in home producers, some of us doing live looping performances and djing with the macbooks and sometimes it is in hot weather in summer beach etc

@bjornark 2 ай бұрын

Noted, I will implement temp-monitoring software in the future.

@hasenakkhaya 2 ай бұрын

@@bjornark with long term usage please. Not just 3-5 minutes, maybe 30 minutes or more? İ dont know but you are such nice person thanks for the reply

@KevinBenjaminMusic 3 ай бұрын

i admit that for musicians that records music out of the box and not working fully in the box with virtual instruments and alot of effects you can get away with a base modal and thats pretty awesome ....BUT ! apples sales tactics and still selling 8 gb of ram in pro models and the uprade pricing is still the worst thing about apple

@bjornark 3 ай бұрын

Agree with everything you say. Especially the upgrade prices. Going from 8GB to 16GB or 512GB to 1TB storage. Those prices are too high IMO.

@konrad.conrad.conrado Ай бұрын

Would improve efficiency if instead of use Vst format, go for AU??

@bjornark Ай бұрын

Depends on the plugin I believe. VST3, AU, CLAP is the modern ones.

@mizzstarr510 Ай бұрын

Hi, I have a few questions. I have a regular MacBook Air. Would it still work for me? Also, if I have a 2015 Mac air with Monterey OS, it’s still okay to download the newest version of the Pro or would it not work, I have a FL-X4 controller, do you think it’ll be compatible to use? I didn’t see it on the Monterey “compatible” list.

@MediaMusik777 3 ай бұрын

It’s a parallel design so really 8 is 16 and 16 is 32 so forth

@bjornark 3 ай бұрын

Apple-math :D

@davidpickett3546 2 ай бұрын

Can you elaborate please

@SuperAnatolli 3 ай бұрын

It has 4 times more RAM than I have on my DAW-computer (that works just fine)...

@TonyThomas10000 2 ай бұрын

They are actually selling that model again exclusively at WalMart for $699.

@bjornark 2 ай бұрын

Not bad!

@davidpickett3546 2 ай бұрын

Ive just bought the new m3 air 8gb. Will this suffice for just audio tracks with minimal plugs

@bjornark 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely!

@wazmand Ай бұрын

Don't do it in logic 11 :( CPU issues .

@nemesishacking 2 ай бұрын

Can you help me choose? I will donate a sample pack that has 500mb of rare samples. All high quality. If you can help, I need a macbook for running ableton 11. I also use logic. Id really appreciate it. My budget however, is 3000au dollars. So I cant afford the best. Id appreciate it.

@bjornark 2 ай бұрын

Its difficult, I dont know how your market is where you live. But focus on getting a mac with the most amount of performance cores you can afford.

@jasperruddock5155 12 күн бұрын

Is this Logic 11?

@bjornark 7 күн бұрын

No, this is Logic 10.

@felixbr26 Ай бұрын

Hello, is this 48khz or 96khz?

@bjornark Ай бұрын

48khz

@felixbr26 Ай бұрын

@@bjornark Thank you 😊

@FynnFTW 3 ай бұрын

"cause 8gb in our MACs is like 16gb on other systems" 🤣😂

@bjornark 3 ай бұрын

8GB is absolutely not 16GB. :D But macOS might manage the memory better in some cases, compared to windows.

@FynnFTW 3 ай бұрын

well. i just quoted apple@@bjornark

@bjornark 3 ай бұрын

Yeah I know, that was peak-Apple PR. :D

@typ0_music Ай бұрын

He's not wrong though, it's always seemed that way to me between various Mac and windows machines, now since the M1 in 2020 released its even more apparent