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LS | Draft Kingdom - FNC vs VIT - The (Many) Problems Surrounding Fnatic

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@chairmancat3668
@chairmancat3668 Жыл бұрын
I cant even imagine what goes through someone's mind to pick Vi into Xayah
@omegaminoseer4539
@omegaminoseer4539 Жыл бұрын
Zug Zug, we can lock her down with Crystal Arrow and Assault and Battery.
@justalex7825
@justalex7825 Жыл бұрын
Especially when that person is Razork, stop putting that men on engagers, he will engage even 1v5 if his abilities are up, he has a syndrome
@Omegateck16
@Omegateck16 Жыл бұрын
My clash jungle did the exact same thing even with me telling him he's Crazy...spoilers...it didn't go well
@lehends5683
@lehends5683 Жыл бұрын
yep, into gragas its also not great, if gragas gets a good cask while vi is ulting she'll become isolated
@dawidlol1337
@dawidlol1337 Жыл бұрын
You can force Xayah ult with Vi ult :)
@williamhobbs4202
@williamhobbs4202 Жыл бұрын
Whether you agree with him or not you can’t deny that this sort of thinking makes the game a lot more interesting. I actually watched the LCS when he was on C9 purely to see what they came up with in draft, at least we can watch G2 somewhat do the same
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Жыл бұрын
G2 is trash though.
@verySharkey
@verySharkey Жыл бұрын
​@@Gurpreet-sv5zgso are you? Now what?
@manteca5699
@manteca5699 Жыл бұрын
I think rn astralis is also something cool to watch draft wise, they have a mid that plays assassins and ad champions when most of lec mids wouldn't even consider playing something like irelia or zed in a good situation. I love when pros actually put in the work to play these kind of picks and aren't the control mage only player like humanoid. Caps is unbeatable in champion pool, but I wouldn't dream of seeing hans on seraphine for example.
@candelalux1403
@candelalux1403 Жыл бұрын
and it was a draft kingdom with c9, the players were not better but the draft gave them such a good advantage that they won every game if i recall it right
@Kai-rn3et
@Kai-rn3et Жыл бұрын
​@@Gurpreet-sv5zg indian
@mrfoodfrostfiend4100
@mrfoodfrostfiend4100 Жыл бұрын
Unironically I think the ziggs actually fits rekkles perfectly so he can at least do damage without worrying about being too close.
@armageddon7376
@armageddon7376 Жыл бұрын
I would rather have Rekkles on Seraphine or if you want AD, Senna and Jhin are perfect for him and Jhin works so much better with Ashe. In terms of Senna, they could have done something along the lines of Sett, Mordekaiser, and I know people are gonna have this but I really fo believe that if you have Senna, a good lane partner is Jhin. Also in terms of letting Draven go through for Hans ... I was really really hoping they left it open on purpose so they would do something like Tristana/Malzahar or Jhin/Malzahar so it's like... We have things to play into your Draven, but noup. Let's do Aphelios into Draven and he cannot play.... I'm not even high ello but these things are common knowledge, or they should be at least
@wessac1627
@wessac1627 Жыл бұрын
he wont play AP because if hes not on hard scaling they have 0 chance to win
@ahem1190
@ahem1190 Жыл бұрын
Such a shame coaching never worked out for you, your drafting alone would shake up the meta everywhere you go. I still go back to look at the C9 games with you coaching, making the draft more interesting than the actual game.
@OBODZ1
@OBODZ1 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't even a proper showcase in those few games as certain players refused to play some champions on stage (Cho ADC for example)which they had practiced lol.
@lori777p
@lori777p Жыл бұрын
Someone hire this man! I know, he won´t coach again, but to my understanding it was only "head" coach, right? Having him as analyst/strategist in your coaching team would be so insane.
@MrDrageno
@MrDrageno Жыл бұрын
And why in the world would he ever do that, if he earns probably tripple the money right now he could ever get as analyst while being basically free to do what he wants?
@Wait2Seconds
@Wait2Seconds Жыл бұрын
@@MrDrageno it's just a suggestion and life is not all about money. it's legitimate to think that LS would be very good at it
@user-he9fl6qy6u
@user-he9fl6qy6u Жыл бұрын
​@@MrDrageno 1) LS is competitive 2) when League added Morello and Liandry's to search in item shop by term LS, it meant a lot to him, how about being written in the history of LoL, winning Worlds perhaps? In the end, we all just watch and admire his League knowledge with open mouth, what a shame we cant see more of his abilities in pro scene, what a difference LS would make.
@shanemoore6182
@shanemoore6182 Жыл бұрын
@@MrDrageno Way more than triple. On record he says he'd have to be paid 2millon+ to our earn what he is making this year alone. Outside of money the only real upside is brand building/brand value if he is tied to an organization.
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Жыл бұрын
​@@MrDrageno Triple lmao
@ThisChangeIsAwful
@ThisChangeIsAwful Жыл бұрын
I am so fascinated with the way LS uses magic colors to characterize champs. I remember he talked about it on a previous video. I'm going to watch the 3 hour Draft Kingdom tomorrow. This is so amazing to listen to. on a side note, its so weird hearing that champ called something other than naysus or susan.
@kuci1995
@kuci1995 Жыл бұрын
I think he did a full video of comparing magic colors to league. I remember he wanted to make that video but I cannot remember if he actually got around to doing it.
@doctordumbass9425
@doctordumbass9425 Жыл бұрын
​@@kuci1995 yeah it's on the main yt p sure
@oliverfaxen1438
@oliverfaxen1438 Жыл бұрын
Love this type of content! The games feel so much deeper/richer with your draft philosophy, rather than just picking the strongest champs in each role.
@isaacharrison4892
@isaacharrison4892 Жыл бұрын
FNC needs to zoom call this man during their drafts to tell them what to pick. Might actually help them win a few games
@urekmazino2083
@urekmazino2083 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes i forget how smart LS is at League. Even if what he says does not work sometimes out at least it make 100% logic
@dawidlol1337
@dawidlol1337 Жыл бұрын
I swear whenever Xayah becomes meta people complain that she is OP whilst drafting full engage into a blind Xayah
@huytaro
@huytaro Жыл бұрын
Is it possible to change the team names from "Blue side/Red side" to the actual names you want? Just a little feature. Think that'd be nice!
@Szauron
@Szauron Жыл бұрын
I was thinking exactly the same! :D
@Szauron
@Szauron Жыл бұрын
@@omy8096 I know it's possible on the site, thats why it would be nice if he named the sides in the video too
@LordKeram
@LordKeram Жыл бұрын
Love this video (actually wanted to do a similar one). LS so nicely showcases a couple of layer of drafting that you can get into, where most teams just go 1-2 layers deep. And how Fnatic are actually incapable of even getting past the bare basics of drafting. Like I think most bronze players know Xayah hard counters Vi, yet it's the first pick we see after she is picked. Ofc you could maybe justify it (no J4 is strictly always better) by going another agro pick alongside it and basically showing that you are monored. Instead they lock in Zeri and now they are completely and utterly fucked. No way of saving the draft from that point. Just pure sadness and misery.
@kir0kioske992
@kir0kioske992 Жыл бұрын
This is is gold. Music to my ears. Love this content. Please more draft kingdoms
@MrDonJuanquis
@MrDonJuanquis Жыл бұрын
This man alone could shift the entire pro landscape, but the pro teams just would not let him. We saw just a pinch of it when he was with Cloud 9 and the breath of fresh air it was. HE IS THE ONE THAT CAN MAKE LEAGUE LAST 30 MORE YEARS.
@cdcidsid9228
@cdcidsid9228 Жыл бұрын
bro hop off his meat, bro is diamond- needs to rank up if anyone will take him seriously
@tmagety8924
@tmagety8924 Жыл бұрын
@@cdcidsid9228 But he has been grandmaster before.
@cdcidsid9228
@cdcidsid9228 Жыл бұрын
@@tmagety8924 doesn’t matter, even neace is higher rank then him on the korean server now XD. he isn’t good enough to be coach caliber
@julianseipp2708
@julianseipp2708 Жыл бұрын
@@cdcidsid9228 neace alt ICANT
@jeikojeiko3428
@jeikojeiko3428 Жыл бұрын
@@cdcidsid9228 most of the coaches arent challengers, it is like football(soccer) you dont need to be the best football player to be the best coach, you just need the mind, no the hability. those two are very different
@vascocarvalho2451
@vascocarvalho2451 Жыл бұрын
200 IQ vi pick, she really loves ulting into Xayah R and then getting immediately cc'd
@The_Bomb_Devil
@The_Bomb_Devil Жыл бұрын
Draft Kingdom some of my favorite league content to watch. Would like to see more.
@LX_L9
@LX_L9 Жыл бұрын
Maybe LS can fix Fnatic. He explains the drafts so insanely good and if he gets the shot to pick some players, he can build a better roster, than the current one is.
@shelbyward9048
@shelbyward9048 Жыл бұрын
LS too good for lec
@Ekorn11g
@Ekorn11g Жыл бұрын
No one can fix fnatic for now, fnatic need to rebuild around rekkles again, because rekkles is not the problem anymore,now its top jg mid for now
@Ekorn11g
@Ekorn11g Жыл бұрын
I just cant believe how dardo and razork still on the team, just keep the same botlane and coaching staff and change top jungle or jungle mid, but jg needs a change
@haikaltaufik7571
@haikaltaufik7571 Жыл бұрын
​@@Ekorn11g i agree. Why keep Razork? He's the worst jg in the league imo
@fabioviti7384
@fabioviti7384 Жыл бұрын
@@haikaltaufik7571 well razork might be bad but right now the team is not in a good spot; rekkles is a very bad adc, sure he's superb in a solo q "i want every resource i can play passive till min 35" enviroment but when he actually has to do something he just fails, the spanish top is just meme and humanoid isn't that good nowdays. So you have weakside botlane because rekkles will never play aggro, weakside top because the top is weak and half the time weakside mid AT THE SAME TIME; you cannot play jungle with 3 weaksides
@kylefahsl3616
@kylefahsl3616 Жыл бұрын
LS continuously impresses me with his intelligence and work ethic.
@liamp4243
@liamp4243 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting these videos, it always tilts me watching teams shoot themselves in the foot with specific picks being entertained. While I do think that most teams are not drafting correctly, it always fills me with hope when I do see some teams either bringing in new picks (either new champions or flexing existing champions into a new role) because its showcasing a desire to innovate and 'break out' of the established meta. Regrettably though, sometimes these new picks are being selected in the wrong spots which leads to a misconception of the champions utility / usability.
@Wardenaz
@Wardenaz Жыл бұрын
Zeri Ashe Vitconnect
@thomaswiegele9802
@thomaswiegele9802 Жыл бұрын
Love that format of videos. I reckon it's situational (like shouldn't be done for all the games played) but I hope to see more of those, highly interesting for low ELO players like me !
@MauriceGucci
@MauriceGucci Жыл бұрын
My wettest dream is LS joining G2 as draft & strategy coach. Not sure how they get along, but LS and Caps cooking up picks would be so wild.
@rivehnchan4169
@rivehnchan4169 Жыл бұрын
Oscar needs a positional coach and a group of staff to help him get comfortable, if you watch his GP, he has flashy mechanics and I think has great potential but is thrown into such an awful situation and dysfunctional team. Seeing this Ornn pick just made me feel so sorry for him.
@SaraGon15
@SaraGon15 Жыл бұрын
still he is like 0-18 man no matter what he keeps getting gapped like no tomorrow, Oscar is not about being comfy he is plain bad and came into a dysfunctional team as you say.
@F4M3Resistance
@F4M3Resistance Жыл бұрын
@@SaraGon15 Yeah but you can´t really say for sure if he´s just bad in comparison or he´s nervous and the team just does not work. Would yike have performed the same in fnc as in g2 as a rookie? I don´t really think so ..
@SaraGon15
@SaraGon15 Жыл бұрын
@@F4M3Resistance i mean indeed the team got problems thats for sure, he was nervous in first game for not sure lets say, but come on man he is in 3 games 0-18, weakside and strongside, Fanatic is bad overall but look at his 3 games and seems is a 4v5 since the start it will sounds mean from my part but at this point teams are just going bottom to dont let rekkles feed up, since we all know nvm what happens enemy Top will gap Oscarinin, btw he is a damn profesional player even if nervous he should hit something..
@F4M3Resistance
@F4M3Resistance Жыл бұрын
@@SaraGon15 He´s a rookie, coming from academy into the real pro scene is quite a step. Yeah it´s looking bad for him and now the decision to get rid of wunder seems pretty shit aswell, but well they did it with upset too. I just don´t think any toplaner could change the game for Fnc rn. The people on the team just dont work together, mid jgl duo is whack af and rekkless can´t compete with any adc in LEC, advienne is a step up from rhuckz cause of champ pool but there are so many good botlanes in lec right now, I just don´t see them winning any lane. So even if oscarin solokills top they would still loose. Btw have you seen them draft? Insantity. The whole thing is just cursed.
@SaraGon15
@SaraGon15 Жыл бұрын
@@F4M3Resistance yeah as i said whole Fanatic is a mess, not sure whos doing the drafting or whos messing with it but is horrible, there is no comunication in the team they are not synced, mid/jungle inting like crazy and Oscarinin well poor guy is not doing well and sad the team needs result asap i twont give him all the time of the world to start learning and adapt comming to a big name team that is having serious issues and not atleast giving some personal good games will affect him even more and the team will use him as scapegoat when the problem goes beyond him.
@godzilla1309
@godzilla1309 Жыл бұрын
Also when they blind pick Azir , they are still flexing the Gragas between Top and Jungle.
@Gabriel64468
@Gabriel64468 Жыл бұрын
I like the MtG comparisons, the idea of assigning colours as a general way of showing what champions work together and which have multiple modes is quite useful. However I always thought it falls a bit flat when trying to use it for a draft, rather than just discussing champions in general - LS even adresses this a bit latter when he points out that League drafts are a perfect information game, so comparisions with games with hidden information will always be flawed. Personally, I think chess openings are a better analogy for draft because of that, some features of that comparision: First and foremost, reacting is a key part. Sure e5 is a great response to the most popular opening (e4), but if your opponent starts d4 or Nf3 you really can't play e5 anymore. And there are also some generally bad first moves, like f4, which suddenly become great if you know your opponent is locked into e5 as a response - or alternatively it means you can block your opponent from playing e5, even if it means you end up in a worse position overall. This is really valueable against teams with a very well defined style that aren't able to diverge from that style - think C9 with Summit. Another nice part is transpositions, which I think hold a lot of similarity with flexpicks. Say you are black and the game starts d4 e6 e4, which is a fairly common pattern. You now have the chance to play d5 and the position you arrive at is the same position you would get into if the game had started e4 e6 d4 d5. This might seem minor, but chess openings are roughly divided into 3 groups: d4, e4 and everything else. Most players below the master level (and even a decent amount at the master level) are much more practiced in one of these openings and would not want to get "moveordered" into a e4 opening, when they started d4. You could also see that as an analogy for knowing someone isn't comfortable playing a specific champion - by offering to leave something open that is supposed to be pick or ban you force them to either agree to pick it (transposing from d4 to e4) or effectively blocking it without having to ban it (opponent doesn't have the opportunity of e4 after d4 e6, which reduces the amount of things you need to prepare for). It also works quite well because the opening, like drafting, isn't actually a full game by itself. If you are Perkz and playing versus Damonte, you CAN just respond to d4 with e5 (Englund Gambit), because the position should be bad for you, you will just solokill him at level 2 with LeBlanc. If you are sufficiently better than your opponent (or just more comfortable with a weird situation) you can outplay from a bad position. Overall, openings are often displayed or at least conceptualized as "trees" and that fits really well with a properly prepared draft - you should know what your gameplan is if the enemies first pick Ashe, you should know what you do if they instead give Ashe over and took Gragas, etc. MtG drafting can never be considered in a tree like this, since you never know what is in the second pack you pick from - sure remaining open while collecting high power cards is important and drafting to not just have powerful cards, but also be able to fit into one of the supported archetypes is important, but that is much more nebulous and indirect because of the hidden information and high amounts of RNG (both from the packs and from the other drafters), while league drafting, like a chess opening, is fairly concrete. Wasn't a big part of the video, but it is at least somewhat related and a comparision I really like, so seems as good a place as any to share it.
@frucks1831
@frucks1831 Жыл бұрын
Love these draft kingdom videos
@metalbrother2671
@metalbrother2671 Жыл бұрын
Your knowledge about drafts is really unmatched. it would be so cool to see you as a draft coordinator in any team and see them flourish (get good). I know you did this in the past and there were complications with a certain team and you said you won't be doing it anymore in the future but man i would love to see you back in the game! I have a feeling a lot of teams fall into the meta $lav3 trap (don't know if one is allowed to write this word thats why it is obscured) and just play what was buffed by riot and disregarding best in slot champions for a situation. easy example is teams not drafting malphite into a full AD comp, same for rammus.
@terroraffe9690
@terroraffe9690 Жыл бұрын
i need that shit that fnatic is smoking. it truly must be the best on the market rn
@Pope.mp3
@Pope.mp3 Жыл бұрын
Saw a LLA game today with this exact situation, Gragas picked so enemy team goes Sera Senna and gets stomped. Its so funny to watch and think hmm surely gragas can do something vs Seraphine
@TryonixGaming
@TryonixGaming Жыл бұрын
B2-B3: Jayce (flex) - Ezreal. B4-B5 Wukong - Zoé
@svenkrules9855
@svenkrules9855 Жыл бұрын
Wow. He is very analytical and insightful. He should be a Head Coach or something.
@shanemoore6182
@shanemoore6182 Жыл бұрын
I swear people draft Zeri, Vi so the Zeri doesn't have to play into the Vi. Disgusting.
@haikaltaufik7571
@haikaltaufik7571 Жыл бұрын
Yep
@giantbear3422
@giantbear3422 Жыл бұрын
give rekkles sivir or senna and the win% rises with 75%. arguably the best senna in the world, and no one plays sivir better than him either. sometimes comfort picks are better than "meta" picks
@sicario9011
@sicario9011 Жыл бұрын
for sure he's best senna/sivir worldwide but it wont change a fact that Oscarin goes 0/3 5min, mid/jungle synergy doesnt exist and Razork doesnt know what hes doing. So if anything, the whole roster needs changes OR yamato to be hire. it isnt 2015 for one Rekky to carry whole team
@haikaltaufik7571
@haikaltaufik7571 Жыл бұрын
One Senna pick doesnt solve Fnatic problems. I always knew Razork is a bad player. They need to recall Wunder back and find a new jungler. Currently it's a team diff
@Gurpreet-sv5zg
@Gurpreet-sv5zg Жыл бұрын
LOL what?
@AleXoEx0
@AleXoEx0 Жыл бұрын
I remember reckless losing quite a lot on sivir when he was last playing LEC. Last split?
@giantbear3422
@giantbear3422 Жыл бұрын
@@AleXoEx0 he played sivir once last split, and they won the game....
@biggesthater6
@biggesthater6 Жыл бұрын
Love the draft analysis!
@clockworkop
@clockworkop Жыл бұрын
Its so cool to see that even if you fuck up first draft phase so hard, your champs just go against each other, even then you still have valid answers, that make it kinda work. xd
@AleXoEx0
@AleXoEx0 Жыл бұрын
LS has tweeted many times (especially at world's) that one team hard draft gapped the other then that same other team wins pretty easily. Draft isn't everything and players very rarely play perfectly in terms of how opposing champions interact.
@cosuo
@cosuo Жыл бұрын
ashe is the worst support you can pair with zeri
@rieloba4803
@rieloba4803 Жыл бұрын
Woud love to see a draft kingdom video of when he was on C9
@JetManPoweR
@JetManPoweR Жыл бұрын
My idea about FNC’s draft is: they already decided to go LB or any pick champ in mid before draft. They picked Ashe for push and R and Vi to run down mid as well, then Rekkles on a scaling champ and top on anything that “doesn’t suck when behind”, hoping to balance everything over a fed mid. They tried to play for mid in game too, but as LS said: you can’t draft blindly ignoring what’s actually happening and expect it to work. I think they had an idea, but VIT rightfully just answered it and FNC went for it anyways with zero thought. SoloQ strat.
@4thwall826
@4thwall826 Жыл бұрын
LS pick/ban + keria’s 5head would be great
@JulianVBernal
@JulianVBernal Жыл бұрын
amazing video mr LS, many thanks
@Darkyryus_
@Darkyryus_ Жыл бұрын
MOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR OF THIIIIIIIIIS! PD/Edit: I hate the fact that some teams LITERALLY pick Vi only for Zeri to not play knowing enemy team has Vi R but completely forgetting many MANY champs that are better than her but w.e. also there are people that think "but pick some champs for early so that scale champs can scale" like bro if you do that you SHOULD (like 95% of the times) be worse in early and worse in late losing objectives and advantages in every time of the game. like W-T-F!
@Derploop
@Derploop Жыл бұрын
Also Mordekaiser fists Ornn anyway. Lillia soundss spicy and is a Photon pick from LCK Chall according to Chronicler. It's crazy to me that in 2023 4 champs with a dash is an immobile comp. The power creep is real.
@candelalux1403
@candelalux1403 Жыл бұрын
When I saw the Vi pick into the Xayah I put all of my points on VIT
@Linkingx2
@Linkingx2 Жыл бұрын
thank you not only is fnc playing "not well" the draft is also super "not well"
@callumanon3917
@callumanon3917 Жыл бұрын
The only reason I can possibly think fnc drafted this vi for is as denial, xayah gragas are such fantastic R1 R2, gragas can just be flexed 4 roles on G2, Xayah picks means that picking Vi later in the draft for G2 can get huge value since fnc would be pinned off of an adc answer to vi but I think instead of "denying" a vi pick you'd be better just taking karma + (something else? viktor?) since karma gives good disengage, can be flexed 3 roles and pins G2 off of being able to play vi if they were looking to. All of this assumes that fnatic are terrified of vi for some reason though
@Hades-Sired
@Hades-Sired Жыл бұрын
LS tryna save FNC in one video lol
@jerearrighi
@jerearrighi Жыл бұрын
YESSSS! DRAFT KINGDOM
@no0n
@no0n Жыл бұрын
gonna use this information to get out of bronze thanks LS!
@kawaiisnake8201
@kawaiisnake8201 Жыл бұрын
If teams actually drafted like this we'd see less snorefests with the same comp being played 24/7
@domikatz
@domikatz Жыл бұрын
I like this a lot! Do you think all pros should be able to play like 15 champs in every given patch?
@souleyyyy
@souleyyyy Жыл бұрын
yeah cuz most of the time 12-15 of those dont change
@kristianvukajlovic6789
@kristianvukajlovic6789 Жыл бұрын
Faker has played half the characters in the game on stage. These people are getting paid to play all day, it's unacceptable to not be able to play at least 15 characters. Also, you don't need to be 100% proficient on a champion, if the champion is really good against enemy.
@PInnHeAd
@PInnHeAd Жыл бұрын
I know it probably would be kinda easy to shutdown and that has a hard time going side, but is there ANY potential for a xerath pick at B4?
@chessplatypus4769
@chessplatypus4769 Жыл бұрын
gonna post this comment again just incase I dont know if you read this but for your tier list maker if you could merge 2 champs together in the list, remember how when you did rengar ivern bot lane in S tier you just put them together, it would be cool if you could just make 1 icon for rengar ivern.
@GroundationOnly
@GroundationOnly Жыл бұрын
Not an L take but draft don't really matter when you have a Player talent gap in every role.
@heyitssstorm
@heyitssstorm Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't Fnatic want a strong laner instead of Corki? That would be 3 weak lanes and VIT could run the map and snowball. I agree LeBlanc isn't good but the idea of having someone to pressure the map early while everyone else gets online doesn't seem that bad.
@AbdaSamio
@AbdaSamio Жыл бұрын
Wouldn’t Taliyah be a good pick into this VIT comp at midline?
@luukdewaal9648
@luukdewaal9648 Жыл бұрын
What about J4 on B2 to lock down the Xayah and Syndra on B3 as a mid/apc flex?
@raphaeltheseira5144
@raphaeltheseira5144 Жыл бұрын
More draft kingdom!
@ryanv8783
@ryanv8783 Жыл бұрын
So your saying fnatic should have pick ashe jhin Elise ziggs/zerath/velkoz, orn?
@maximillianmudkip7943
@maximillianmudkip7943 Жыл бұрын
draft kingdoms are the best man
@charleswilson5773
@charleswilson5773 Жыл бұрын
I really wish they'd show dragon soul in draft. It would blow the entire draft phase open. You'd get metas and drafts depending on map type and maybe we wouldn't see the same One meta for 6 months and we'd worst case scenario we'd get one meta Per Map for 6 months which could quadruple the picks we get to watch. We also wouldn't have these situations where a winning team or non scaling team just gets fucked by a bad dragon soul (looking at you lck cloud)
@siinuxxblume5123
@siinuxxblume5123 Жыл бұрын
So, i dont have the insight on what is playable at the moment and what isnt into azir, but with the first 3 picks that fanatic drafted you might be able to go xerath on B4. It is the same idea as velkoz but fits better into the random champs you drafted earlier. On B5 you would draft some disengage/tank type, again, i have no clue what is meta, but even orrn should be okay. It is still heavily losing, but i think there is at least a win condition with what you are doing. With the draft fnatic had you just lose without having anything.
@msms-xw5qp
@msms-xw5qp Жыл бұрын
Ashe just kinda fell off after the melee champ buffs. I got master playing her solo queue, now its hard to stay diamond.
@coledorillo6685
@coledorillo6685 Жыл бұрын
top 10 rappers Eminem was too scared to diss
@Mark-xf3fe
@Mark-xf3fe Жыл бұрын
How would you like seraphine lillia b2b3. Lillia can function as poke
@jamesl.456
@jamesl.456 Жыл бұрын
I think mtg is such a good way to explain aspects of game theory in other games. But i do wonder what % of people are both lol enjoyers and mtg enjoyers
@ludovicotirelli9127
@ludovicotirelli9127 Жыл бұрын
what about sivir b3? Works well with engage and poke, is rekkless otp, scales well... Isn't she even better than ezreal?
@dejakiller69
@dejakiller69 Жыл бұрын
Its insane how good LS is at shitting, holy fuck
@armageddon7376
@armageddon7376 Жыл бұрын
What I don't get is why is Rekkles not on Senna ? He is known for his Senna, she is very strong in the meta and suits him. With Ashe even pair a Jhin with her, also something Rekkles is known for
@tinheart2853
@tinheart2853 Жыл бұрын
"Champions in fnatic's draft don't agree with one another" what a nice metaphore about the whole organisation
@Zjoway
@Zjoway Жыл бұрын
Do you think orianna would be a good pick she kinda counters azir
@Qswyk
@Qswyk Жыл бұрын
What about Galio? I think he is good with vi, and also decent in lane against Azir
@GroundationOnly
@GroundationOnly Жыл бұрын
No dmg
@Viridian084
@Viridian084 Жыл бұрын
Another one, based.
@andrewkelley9405
@andrewkelley9405 Жыл бұрын
I love these mini draft kingdoms Edit: Fnatic? More like put into the fan attic.
@KoeiNL
@KoeiNL Жыл бұрын
What about Ziggs or Xerath instead of LB?
@Tony-gg7nw
@Tony-gg7nw Жыл бұрын
What about Zoe for mid? She pokes and does pick well too no?
@TehLegacy100
@TehLegacy100 Жыл бұрын
Would`nt Sylas be good for Humanoid here? He has good scaling and many ways to engage with almost every ult VIT have, also very good disengage with every ult VIT have. And he is very good at the champ aswell.
@yudoball
@yudoball Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't sylas have similar problems like vi? A melee champ engaging into xayah and gragas that have pretty good disengage sounds difficult. Unless his main purpose in tf is disrupting with gragas ult and rakan ult then zhonyas for safety.
@TehLegacy100
@TehLegacy100 Жыл бұрын
@@yudoball I mean if you already are going for pick/engage, Sylas works much better than LB(in this case) atleast then you have more flexability. LB is pick only. And Gragas and Xayah only have so much disengage when you have, Vi ult, Ashe ult, Ornn ult/E(i think) and if they picked Sylas even more.
@yudoball
@yudoball Жыл бұрын
@@TehLegacy100 true
@lehends5683
@lehends5683 Жыл бұрын
I dont like sylas in this draft as azir has much more range, i think it's hard for sylas to approach some of these fights vs azir and also mid would be perma prio for vitality with no kill pressure, at least leblanc has some kill pressure. But i dont see how sylas can play in a teamfight vs vitalities comp
@TehLegacy100
@TehLegacy100 Жыл бұрын
@@lehends5683 I kinda explained why Sylas is better than LB in this case. I think LB is very hard to play vs VIT teamcomp, with Sylas atleast you can kinda be useful in team fights. You have a lot of useful ults you can steal and engage some what. And with Camille in the game 1 Camille ult and LB is screwed.
@years-ti7xl
@years-ti7xl Жыл бұрын
You know a draft is so bad that LS had to do Draft Kingdom (even if it's that short). That's how seriously bad Fnatic is right now.
@TheKevinGeee
@TheKevinGeee Жыл бұрын
LS learned a new word. Guess what it is.
@ASSASSIN79100
@ASSASSIN79100 Жыл бұрын
Why is the facecam so low quality? Looks like 480p
@FizzarolliJ
@FizzarolliJ Жыл бұрын
Anyone have an opinion on seraphine mid for FNC this draft?
@konstanZX2
@konstanZX2 Жыл бұрын
I think fnatic just had the one and only idea of going mid and killing azir over and over. also camille I think is very good pick for VIT since it gives you that splitpush abbility as well as teamfight as well as escaping in case they try to engage on her, and the rest of the team can just 4v5 even because of the huge disengage tools they have. and also they probably win 5v5s as well so... not much to do, like or you destroy midlane and have lb fed to the point of one shotting everyone or you can't win.
@taymc5150
@taymc5150 Жыл бұрын
Let’s go fantic 🙂
@forcommentpurposes
@forcommentpurposes Жыл бұрын
Why do people sleep on seraphine support so much........
@nynach
@nynach Жыл бұрын
At this point why not just make the matches blind games? Would make "draft" phase faster.
@ReiDavizin
@ReiDavizin Жыл бұрын
FNATIC is doomed. Ever since the Adam situation back in 2021, this team is on a downward spiral.
@DecresCrow
@DecresCrow Жыл бұрын
Always amazes me how the poor the level of drafting in League is compared to top level dota, watching some dota drafts you really can just call the game from draft.
@lxnny1259
@lxnny1259 Жыл бұрын
16:18 what is good into ornn
@alext9092
@alext9092 Жыл бұрын
Feel like this game the skill gap was so obvious that ViT could have picked 5x teemo and still win this
@kakuja77_
@kakuja77_ Жыл бұрын
bars
@gomjabbar6246
@gomjabbar6246 Жыл бұрын
I agree that I have no idea who vi is ulting this game, but fnc are just trying to have their 4 players who aren't rekless on champs that struggle to lose the game early. When viewed from that miserable lens, the draft makes some more sense.
@fatih5930
@fatih5930 Жыл бұрын
Fnatic could literally listen to this for free and try this Comp. It is better then their shit at least :D
@Marsyvv
@Marsyvv Жыл бұрын
Alot of management in esports need to be fired lol. The shit they get away with for an entire decade is insane
@NemeXbbx
@NemeXbbx Жыл бұрын
i hope LS sees this comment because i wonder if Poppy on b2 isnt just a turbo pick. U have a frontline disengage that can follow up the ashe ults vs gragas/xayah. U know they want to pick Rakan so you hard counter him to peel for your carries and reading the mid bans 2 of the strongest picks rn ahri/azir get hard countered by poppy too. I wonder do they think its very weak because Razork is a good poppy player. Not to mention that if you wanted you could flex her top vs the Camille if Oscarinin could play her.
@luukdewaal9648
@luukdewaal9648 Жыл бұрын
Problem is that Poppy as a champ is just insanely bad atm.
@TryonixGaming
@TryonixGaming Жыл бұрын
And Razork has a great Poppy. Its confort for him and we see that many LEC players shine on confort this year
@xyhgn
@xyhgn Жыл бұрын
​@Luuk De Waal like vi isn't as dogshit as a champion as poppy but she keeps getting picked
@christophervillanueva9257
@christophervillanueva9257 Жыл бұрын
Can Xayah R pass through terrain like Jarvan's Cataclysm when she's in the air?
@AleXoEx0
@AleXoEx0 Жыл бұрын
Nope.
@bao1964
@bao1964 Жыл бұрын
Nope, hence Jarvan is amongst the few hard engage that can actually lock down Xayah.
@jeffreyleijden1805
@jeffreyleijden1805 Жыл бұрын
they blind picked ornn bcs they tried oscar not too int
@czikomen1
@czikomen1 Жыл бұрын
XD i cant, he is still on seraphine lux xd
@korinlive
@korinlive Жыл бұрын
based
@Roojercurryninja
@Roojercurryninja Жыл бұрын
recommending the B2 ziggs B3 J4 is fine theoretically but are you considering the fact of whether Rekkles even plays ziggs to begin with? the same thing with the seraphine both ziggs and seraphine aren't really being played and while that doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't strong because we've seen multiple times now people picking up champions that were unchanged for months but they just weren't played (lee sin mid / trynd mid etc) while this way of theoretical drafting is very important it does feel like alot of the conversation of which personnel you're having / facing is completely ignored how would you have drafted for FNC considering the players that you had because clearly oscarinin isn't photon
@mlooch990
@mlooch990 Жыл бұрын
This is what drives me mad. You need to draft not only around theory, but also around what your players CAN play and are proficient at. Theory alone doesn't win games, and it is stupid to think a player can be proficient on any given champ at any given time.
@edvardparikka9862
@edvardparikka9862 Жыл бұрын
@@mlooch990 But didn't rekkles play seraphine in the botlane when it was meta. That champ hasnt really changed in any way or form so relearning shouldn't take that long . Why aren't they practising her or other apc's?
@Frostyyyb
@Frostyyyb Жыл бұрын
FNC need a actual top, replace razork with Jankos and hope Humanoid can pick himself up and look for other supports
@lehends5683
@lehends5683 Жыл бұрын
I think fnc should have picked dive champs in b4 b5, if you've commited to vi i think at this point just go all in and hope for the best haha, gp/akali would have been great I think. While I do think that disengage champs benefit from the enemy team having ults like vi's etc, if there is enough dive threat these abilities won't be as significant since there would be too much going on. it's hard to imagine xayah/azir being comfortable in a 5 v 5 if the fight is played properly which would give space for zeri to deal damage. Rakans not the best peeler so that pick would be punished like this.. But then again it wouldnt matter if oscar goes 0/7 with gp again
@daithomas1430
@daithomas1430 Жыл бұрын
What about Ori mid to give some support and add another CC effect/damage when the disengage gets used?
@lehends5683
@lehends5683 Жыл бұрын
@@daithomas1430 personally i dont like it because with the comp at hand ori will never be able to ult xayah or azir
@daithomas1430
@daithomas1430 Жыл бұрын
@@lehends5683 That makes sense, my thinking was it would at least help the dive comp get some CC after the Xayah ults, definitely not the best choice, but better than Le Blanc and more in line with one of their strategies
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