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LS Out Of C9 - The End Of The Church - Caedrel

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Caedrel

Caedrel

Күн бұрын

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@TheGeneralMod
@TheGeneralMod 2 жыл бұрын
When LS was announced as C9 head coach I made a decision to watch all C9 games...Guess now it's back to LEC/LPL for me.
@marianvajda785
@marianvajda785 2 жыл бұрын
Jack is my hero for fixing my sleeping schedule lol
@longdongson9479
@longdongson9479 2 жыл бұрын
Jack literally saved me from watching LCS!
@valentinorossi9994
@valentinorossi9994 2 жыл бұрын
Yep
@jugg8032
@jugg8032 2 жыл бұрын
@@marianvajda785 true. i was so mad yesterday to be awake at 2:30 just to see this :( Liandrys Salesman down D:
@TheArrowedKnee
@TheArrowedKnee 2 жыл бұрын
@@marianvajda785 Same here
@-ttark
@-ttark 2 жыл бұрын
In all honesty the only reason i ever watched the LCS was to see how well the crazy LS drafts were going
@nicubota6461
@nicubota6461 2 жыл бұрын
Same here i open lcs stream just for that w8 to see ls drafts
@bruh1704
@bruh1704 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair the usual LCS draft is crazy. But LS separates himself because his aren’t crazy stupid and actually have logic and experience behind it.
@shadetdark
@shadetdark 2 жыл бұрын
Now your back to watching LS streams on twitch
@David-lu4bl
@David-lu4bl 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@theteamxxx3142
@theteamxxx3142 2 жыл бұрын
@@bruh1704 lcs draft is so crazy that they refuse to play aphelios into jinx but instead they play the useless champ called jhin KEKW
@MrJeppe313
@MrJeppe313 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the disgusted/confused “ehh?”-sound that Caedrel makes. Legendary stuff
@MrGetownedLP
@MrGetownedLP 2 жыл бұрын
Xqc vibes
@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX
@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX 2 жыл бұрын
JESUS CHRIST is LORD and He came into the world, taking on human flesh, being the sinless and spotless Lamb of GOD, Who lived perfectly, died because of our VILE sins, and was raised for our justification. REPENT. turn away from your sins and turn to GOD and give Him all the glory, honor, and praise. HALLELU YAH. Amen.
@MrJeppe313
@MrJeppe313 2 жыл бұрын
@@JESUSistheTRUTH-ROBLOX Mind virus
@cloroxbleach827
@cloroxbleach827 2 жыл бұрын
LCS viewership plummeting faster than bitcoin.
@ferryfernandus1423
@ferryfernandus1423 2 жыл бұрын
dogecoin you mean
@jericho2281999
@jericho2281999 2 жыл бұрын
“Pro play” is dead. No one gives a fraction of a fck anymore.
@Arrynek01
@Arrynek01 2 жыл бұрын
Did someone actually watch LCS anymore for any other reason than to see the breath of fresh air that were the C9 drafts?
@Geheimnis-c2e
@Geheimnis-c2e 2 жыл бұрын
I watch it to see Bwipo and Bjerg play.
@ForzaOwnz
@ForzaOwnz 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't watch at all, only started watching for ls, now back to not watching
@followerofthechurchofsumi3868
@followerofthechurchofsumi3868 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the TSM trainwreck was pretty fun but they managed to win a game so pretty sad
@notAbii
@notAbii 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt watch after the announcement
@vicbirth1649
@vicbirth1649 2 жыл бұрын
@@followerofthechurchofsumi3868 yup, to be fair it was more like immortals lost the game then tsm won it.
@davienssprime123
@davienssprime123 2 жыл бұрын
the worse part is C9 probably got berserk and most of the players on LS's recommendation and some nepotism from Joe Marsh for LS to sell Berserker. The whole team was made for LS and then kick LS after C9 convince him to move across the earth?
@willdallly8271
@willdallly8271 2 жыл бұрын
quite literally yeah so unless LS killed someone after joining C9 idk , the reason has to be some illegal shit or some like really bad shit internally
@tianolamas7832
@tianolamas7832 2 жыл бұрын
Base on what we know, I think the only thing that makes sense is that LS must have had a really really really big meltdown, or some illegal shit happened. Cause no way you brand around one guy then kick him three weeks into the season
@tianolamas7832
@tianolamas7832 2 жыл бұрын
@@dudedavid34 i would believe that if it wasn’t that 4/5 of the team are LS personal friends, then the coaching staff is composed of mostly LS loyalist, and even C9 Malice who is a friend of LS mentioned there are multiple reasons he has kicked. There is no other way to look at it besides LS just fucking up
@tudornaconecinii3609
@tudornaconecinii3609 2 жыл бұрын
@@willdallly8271 I don't think he did anything illegal (in terms of actual criminal liability). Because he immediately bought a plane ticket back to Korea. The State of California would not allow him to freely leave the country like this if it was something truly serious, especially since LS is technically still a US citizen. It's much more likely that he just broke LCS internal regulations.
@willdallly8271
@willdallly8271 2 жыл бұрын
@@tudornaconecinii3609 illegal in the sense of breaching his contract with c9.
@Linesweeper
@Linesweeper 2 жыл бұрын
LS REVENGE PLAN: LS joins Astralis, wins Europe, wins group at MSI so they can face NA representative Clown9 (after an unrelated mass food poisoning makes TL lose finals) PromisQ picks Annie 3 games in a row with Seraphine mid and 3-0 them. Flawless plan.
@jankozak2984
@jankozak2984 2 жыл бұрын
banger timeline
@plastictrumpet6862
@plastictrumpet6862 2 жыл бұрын
Immensely based timeline
@highjumpkick999
@highjumpkick999 2 жыл бұрын
moves on to worlds where every other team are involved in an unrelated plane crash and astralis wins world with no competition
@willdallly8271
@willdallly8271 2 жыл бұрын
c9 isnt gonna make it to msi its only first seed and without LS NA first seed is 100% going to be TL
@dochudson9257
@dochudson9257 2 жыл бұрын
if not for PromisQ the plan would be realistic LMAO
@akayuki94
@akayuki94 2 жыл бұрын
C9 drafts were literally the ONLY reason I watched lcs this year 😢
@consoleviking7775
@consoleviking7775 2 жыл бұрын
I have been a C9 fan since 2013 and have gotten used to the swift kick in the balls everytime we get hope. After the whole jack tweeting regi is actually a good dude I was on the fence. Then C9 got LS. The content was fire, the team was awesome, the drafts were hype. When LS got the boot, I decided I'm pretty done with the org. TL take the split easily.
@parksbball11
@parksbball11 2 жыл бұрын
The whole situation is just so shit, especially for long time C9 fans. It’s so frustrating just waiting around, not knowing why this decision was made. I’m having flashbacks to the benchings a few years ago
@tomikdang002
@tomikdang002 2 жыл бұрын
I also was C9 fan since 2013 and is was ups and downs with the org, but I always had fate and believe in the management. I was soo happy when they wanted to change everything with LS, but I was shocked after seeing this. Without explanation I am done with C9. This is not the way of C9. C9 is about family and giving chance to new things.
@consoleviking7775
@consoleviking7775 2 жыл бұрын
@@parksbball11 I am an LS fan too, I watched him when he coached the public. This reminds me of when Hai got dropped. Or when meteos got kicked. I started liking the team because if felt like the garage band team. Then they were the only team developing rookies. When that era ended they got perkz. Now the team really doesn't have any of that. Just another generic NA team with 3 Koreans no new NA talent, same shit different day. Just put zven back in and really end the season 9-9 with a first round play off elimination.
@KMART52589
@KMART52589 2 жыл бұрын
@@parksbball11 yea but the backlash for this is going to be historical compared to that. Jack better be ready to watch everything hes worked for gone. Bc fans will not stand for this kinda of treatment. He fucked up.this time.
@faveology
@faveology 2 жыл бұрын
TL was going to take the split regardless. They were doing well without their entire roster. CoreJJ is better than all the other NA supports by a mile. Definitely sucks for C9 though. They probably won't even make worlds this year now
@Sanfaso
@Sanfaso 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, it's crazy how in the span of 3 weeks C9 went from the most interesting and beloved team, from being curch9, to being regarded as a shitshow and branded by the community as clown9. And I hope fans honestly make them accountable for what they did, you can't just keep doing moves that your fanbase don't agree with, give no explanation and then keep going like nothing happened. Fans need to leave C9 if they dislike what they did, and make them see the backlash. Sadly they will probably forget everything if C9 just wins.
@verySharkey
@verySharkey 2 жыл бұрын
Doubt that honestly, large amount of C9 Fans watching the LCS were C9LS fans, core C9 fans may forget but the biggest brand aspect of their league team getting them viewers and fans was LS this season. Perhaps if they turn around and show up at worlds with impressive showings that will change but I doubt even winning LCS can change the loss in clout they got from this, if anything it'll balance it out slightly. Like as Koreans or Europeans you haven't been interested in the LCS in years, LS brought those demographics into their fanbase and hes taking them back along with him.
@richardmorgan7734
@richardmorgan7734 2 жыл бұрын
been a c9 fan for almost a decade, now I refuse to watch another c9 game
@ChuinYih
@ChuinYih 2 жыл бұрын
Thing is they can keep doing this and no one can stop them. If all Jack sees is contracts to be sold for more money, I'd feel really bad for everyone involved in this, especially Berserker and Summit. There is a "leaked convo" that suggests this but warning, search for it at your own risk. The thing that I dont understand at all is how people can be fans of orgs instead of the individuals, when they are so readily willing to throw you fans under the bus when it favors their bottom line even by the slightest of margins.
@chromevolt5494
@chromevolt5494 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChuinYih what do you mean? I tried looking up the contracts and convos and I don't see any. Any source!
@juzaaa
@juzaaa 2 жыл бұрын
This will definitely be talked about a lot within the LoL eSports history books, most legendary run start just to get blue balls by the blue clown9.
@genetapo9425
@genetapo9425 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, I didn't even know that ls was released by c9 by the time i was watching c9 vs clg, in addition when i saw their draft i was immediately taken back to why it seemed so generic/normal and i thought that something was wrong. I just hope for the best for LS he really is a good coach as shown in the c9 bts, he showed great chemistry with almost all the players and staffs. I really love his drafts and different approach to the game. I really thought that c9 could make it to worlds grand finals or something. Such a shame to see this situation happen to a great person.
@constantinvalidol5472
@constantinvalidol5472 2 жыл бұрын
Now NA can continue playing the same passive way every game and occasionally flame Tarzaned when he points out frame by frame how dogshit this region is.
@koolaiddude7685894
@koolaiddude7685894 2 жыл бұрын
Cool opinion, but imagine simping Tarzaned 😂😂 u good?
@herbatabiaa9986
@herbatabiaa9986 2 жыл бұрын
@@koolaiddude7685894 where is he simpin tho
@parkyamato9450
@parkyamato9450 2 жыл бұрын
@@koolaiddude7685894 he just said one thing about him and you just threw the word simp for that, can't even use it right 😭 imagine how bad u are
@Boredness90
@Boredness90 2 жыл бұрын
@@parkyamato9450 and you all are still simping for a dude who has anger issues
@parkyamato9450
@parkyamato9450 2 жыл бұрын
@@Boredness90 ah yes I'm simping without saying a single thing about him 💀 can't use a fucking word right, ain't close to be a fan, but whatever makes you fall asleep my dude lmao
@Damodaran_Disciple
@Damodaran_Disciple 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone who watched Doublelift's podcast with LS ans Caedrel knows that this was probably LS's last shot at coaching Even more so because he probably won't ever find a team that can be structured around him and with players that listen to his insights like C9 was
@marianvajda785
@marianvajda785 2 жыл бұрын
I actually do not agree. Unless the reason he got fired would contribute for other teams not picking him up. It not only showed great and interesting gameplay, it showed a huge flow of fans towards the league and the team. And that is what sponsors and teams want. The fan flow would be even greater if he was done wrong now as people would even feel sorry for him.
@wassolldas5894
@wassolldas5894 2 жыл бұрын
@@marianvajda785 100%. If I was, say CLG I would use my last money now to get LS and try to get him the perfect team
@Domizzzzzzz
@Domizzzzzzz 2 жыл бұрын
@@wassolldas5894 But Ls wont join CLG if he cant build the roster
@faveology
@faveology 2 жыл бұрын
@@marianvajda785 Tbh, if I am a team like GG, IMT, CLG, or even TSM (although TSM would never work because of Regi) I am going to pursue LS. Even if I have to pay him 7 digits, I am going after him. Even if your team doesn't drastically improve, it is still worth doing just for the hype your brand will get
@faveology
@faveology 2 жыл бұрын
@@Domizzzzzzz True. This is probably the biggest issue. He wants to be coach and GM. Teams don't want to just sink millions on players + however much on a coach. It's very expensive and can cost them more than they will make. If LS was fine using all NA talent, it might be a different story. The reason teams like IMT are dogsht is because their owners choose to not invest big like TL and C9
@Nani-nh6qz
@Nani-nh6qz 2 жыл бұрын
I admire you Caedrel, for this take more than ever. I hope you and LS keep working together
@PeoplePleaser578
@PeoplePleaser578 2 жыл бұрын
It has to be something… like there has to be something else happening, I highly doubt C9 just randomly released him for no reason
@LeisurelyShtooping
@LeisurelyShtooping 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, seems weird to be so sudden. Wondering if it was an HR issue.
@dylanroessler6810
@dylanroessler6810 2 жыл бұрын
Surely they won't kick LS for a shit reason after commiting too so much just to bring him in to the team
@PeoplePleaser578
@PeoplePleaser578 2 жыл бұрын
@@dylanroessler6810 No that’s what I mean, it must be a good reason because otherwise Cloud9 gonna look like Clown9
@user-ug4vb3dh5g
@user-ug4vb3dh5g 2 жыл бұрын
Surely that's what happened, and if C9 has a strong reason to release him. Obviously that should be what's best for the corp and they should've make it as transparent as possible. If they didn't give any reason on why they release him, that means they felt guilty over something and it would make them looks bad if they publicize it.
@benjaminmarkovinovic1547
@benjaminmarkovinovic1547 2 жыл бұрын
Jack is buddy buddy with Regi.
@jtlancer8571
@jtlancer8571 2 жыл бұрын
People from other regions actually wanted to watch lcs for once in their life just because of LS. Bringing in off meta comps but just steam rolling just due to draft was fun to watch. The first game back was right back to where everyone else is. The same repetitive picks with bad gameplay. Could just be that there was only a few hours before the game and all players were out of wack but man its looking awful.
@ooppen
@ooppen 2 жыл бұрын
Never been a C9 fan, I was only watching C9 games because I was interested in the project LS was building. There is absolutely no reason to watch LCS
@WoolTecMc
@WoolTecMc 2 жыл бұрын
Man this shit is instant depression. It's hard to imagine that C9 is clueless enough to not know what a terrible business move this is. Not only for C9, but for the LCS as a whole. LS brought a breath of fresh air to an otherwise stale region. I have a hard time believing that LS did something truly horrendous behind the scenes, so that leaves very few options and not really any that looks good for C9... Personal despute or politics... It's fucking cringe if it's either of those. RIP Church 9
@raffy2579
@raffy2579 2 жыл бұрын
He killed blaber because he didn't want to pick soraka top, the guy playing rn is a stunt double, rip gone too soon 😔
@tudornaconecinii3609
@tudornaconecinii3609 2 жыл бұрын
My guess is that C9 had to kick LS because he did something that made him incompatible with being a head coach qua LCS regulations. In other words, that the LCS commissioner put pressure on C9 to make this decision. Think about it. If kicking LS was optional, and the kick was caused by personality issues/brand disputes, the optimal choice from C9 would be to kick him next Monday, not right before the weekend games. Doing it this way is unnecessarily disruptive. So I have to assume that it was at least in some part outside of their control.
@gavinkemp7920
@gavinkemp7920 2 жыл бұрын
​@@tudornaconecinii3609 This probably makes the most sense. I been going through alternatives and their aren't many in which this wouldn't be an over reaction or wouldn't lead to legal consequences. I just don't know they wouldn't just come clean about it if it's the case.
@KeenestObserver
@KeenestObserver 2 жыл бұрын
Literally this. And the way their statement is so short only makes it more probable that they are in the wrong and want to dismiss the whole thing from everyone's minds as soon as possible. Fuck that, I'm no longer watching any C9 games. The public deserves an explanation.
@tudornaconecinii3609
@tudornaconecinii3609 2 жыл бұрын
@@KeenestObserver One thing which I will concede IS interesting is Macaiyla's reaction. Knowing the reason for the firing, she's not saying LS shouldn't have been fired, but she IS saying that she is mad at C9. Which means that whether or not the decision was justified (or even necessary), they didn't need to do it in the way that they did it. So from that perspective, feel free to flame C9 before they release an explanatory statement, don't reserve judgment :D. Oh, one last thing I need to say on the matter, because it has been bothering me that people have this stupid hypothesis: No guys, you won't find clues about why LS was fired by searching for them in the team videos on C9's official youtube channel. More specifically, no, there's no way LS was fired because he said he's a better midlaner than Keaiduo. Because if that statement was problematic, they wouldn't have included it in that (highly edited) video in the first place, and more of the blame would fall on the social media manager than LS anyway.
@petter9078
@petter9078 2 жыл бұрын
I stayed up late as a LEC fanboy every weekend just to see C9. Actually sacrificed sleep to watch them. This all makes 0 sense.
@joshkennethcarpio1456
@joshkennethcarpio1456 2 жыл бұрын
Who's gonna watch lcs anymore KEKW😂
@esqzk
@esqzk 2 жыл бұрын
no one obviously
@GOTHICforLIFE1
@GOTHICforLIFE1 2 жыл бұрын
I guess there's still TL, but that's about it lel
@joshkennethcarpio1456
@joshkennethcarpio1456 2 жыл бұрын
@@GOTHICforLIFE1 true. Besides that there's nothing 🤣
@bobbob-cd9yl
@bobbob-cd9yl 2 жыл бұрын
im only gonna watch TL games but legit lame af since there is no competition now
@magnenebla2421
@magnenebla2421 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshkennethcarpio1456 We can cheer for TSM to lose... That's still an option
@roadddkill
@roadddkill 2 жыл бұрын
LS villain arc: He unites all L9 members and stomps worlds with them. The end.
@ThatLuckyKill
@ThatLuckyKill 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine you (Summit and Beserker) only agree to come to NA because of LS and they fire him before the 5th game. I would run it down the whole season long
@julseu_lol
@julseu_lol 2 жыл бұрын
if i were in their situation and i am still capable of sucking it up for a season then I'll still play and try to do my best so that I could keep my value as a player(or even increase my market value if i become popular) then go back to Korea and hopefully get picked up by an LCK team.
@petermarriott6347
@petermarriott6347 2 жыл бұрын
My interest in c9 (and most of my interest in LCS) this split was to see how LS' immense theoretical game knowledge translated into practical in-game scenarios. I wanted to see the experiment play out irrespective of whether I wanted to see LS succeed. Now it's just back to a garbage hype-less league sorry...
@theultimaterage675
@theultimaterage675 2 жыл бұрын
And for going 3-1 first 2 weeks with the only loss being to the arguably best team NA is a really good showing that LS knew what he was talking about
@Fulldre
@Fulldre 2 жыл бұрын
@@theultimaterage675 additionally, no matter what happens, c9's ceiling with max is likely to be lower compared to where LS would have ended up, which brings down the league as a whole. Honestly with how this weeks games went unless the boys 180, its looking like TL have the easiest season in recent memory.
@robertl.5640
@robertl.5640 2 жыл бұрын
LCS officialy died.
@KMART52589
@KMART52589 2 жыл бұрын
Yep their fate was tied to him and they know it. They are in full panic mode. They just rebranded their league just for it to die and the best part is they cant do anything about it. Lmfao. I've been a c9 fan for nearly 10 years but now l, I just dont know. And worlds is in NA this year. If TL bombs it's over and the region should just wrap it up. Sorry to the casters and the people that work there but the fall out for this realistically could see them finding new careers.
@robertl.5640
@robertl.5640 2 жыл бұрын
@@KMART52589 Did you felt your heart when you saw the tweet on LCS broadcast? Man that was a crack in my heart.
@KMART52589
@KMART52589 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertl.5640 yep I felt it. All the air in my sails are gone. I felt numb bc I just couldn't believe it. I thought they were trolling since that's what C9 does sometimes but this is almost unforgivable without context. They need to say something to their fans and the league community bc the community is a firestorm today and the foreseeable future without context. No one will talk about anything else. Just wait till lcs comes on today and the numbers will show. Lcs is screwd. Hell alot of people will boycott the league bc C9 is apart of it. This snowball is just beginning...
@robertl.5640
@robertl.5640 2 жыл бұрын
@@KMART52589 Yeah man and many other people felt the same way we hoped it was a joke until it was not. But still we should try to look foward to the TSM game what happens. If that was brutal for us how was it for LS and the players. His name speaks for itself Last Shadow of LCS
@theultimaterage675
@theultimaterage675 2 жыл бұрын
The only reason I watched LCS before was for TL (mainly CoreJJ), but this season I was so excited to watch LS. I had some of the most fun watching C9 games and their drafts. The fans deserve to know what happened. LS was the reason so many people started watching C9 in the first place, and for them to drop LS so suddenly is irritating to so many fans, not to mention the whole team was built around LS.
@PluristPurist
@PluristPurist 2 жыл бұрын
I can't say I'm horribly surprised that LS didn't make it all year as coach, since the little I know about him he's always had personal struggles whether it was health or mental health related. That being said the way this seems to have gone down is way different than I thought it would be and I'm massively disappointed. I'm a C9 fan so I'll still be rooting for the team but this whole thing just feels awful. LS made me excited to watch every week to see the crazy picks and strategies he would come up with. I was excited to see how his style would look after a couple months with the team and hopefully on the worlds/international stage. He said he had more unique/crazy picks ready for this week and the game today we picked nothing but meta. I guess its back to boring drafts again, which wouldn't have felt so bad if we never had LS in the first place. Now I know how things could have been, rip LS you will be missed. (and please god, there better have been a good reason for getting rid of him, I'll be pissed if its something really stupid)
@shaytoway6877
@shaytoway6877 2 жыл бұрын
ls said it wasnt health or mental related :)
@Finkaisar
@Finkaisar 2 жыл бұрын
Now i can only watch TL games
@GOTHICforLIFE1
@GOTHICforLIFE1 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly - It's just tragic that NA has zero patience for success xD
@Savaris96
@Savaris96 2 жыл бұрын
I think that based on the timing, which was basically 4 hours before the game, that this happened due to outside pressure, a "LS doesnt go on stage, or else...."-Situation. I doubt that C9 is happy with the decision or that there was actual beef between LS and the Team, especially based on how they acted in-game. I dont think its just due to LS´ behaviour towards the other teams, cause Max would have been just as screwed. Good news is, even if he doesnt make Head Coach again, these last 2 weeks established him as someone who knows what he is doing and especially in KR seems to have turned quite a few doubters around, im sure if nothing else he could just go back to T1, it doesnt look like Joe would let him down like that.
@rajder656
@rajder656 2 жыл бұрын
i mean if you watch the behind the scenes video it's clear he was pretty good with the team especiall that he was friends with most of them/he was the one that scouted them
@Savaris96
@Savaris96 2 жыл бұрын
@@dudedavid34 Could also just be Riot Games which is owned by Tencent, a chinese Company not wanting to get into an awkward situation when one of the currently most famous coaches is openly gay... It could literally be a blizzard move
@Kamesori
@Kamesori 2 жыл бұрын
Typical C9 style, in every game they sign ppl and 3months after they r kicked, What a history they have in fortnite now LoL
@jiujitsuman9643
@jiujitsuman9643 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah bro I was thinking ab this, yesterday morning. “Man I wish LCS teams didn’t replace players so much it’s hard to get behind a team” but I loved C9 from OG days and w all the constant roster changes it’s hard to stay a diehard fan. Sneaky gets booted from the team I felt like I was shanked and now LS. Yeah I’m def jus done giving a fuck ab LCS😂can’t care ab any team or coaching staff or anything. The only thing I hope for in LCS, is Reginald gets what he deserves in one way or another now.
@ulquiorra4386
@ulquiorra4386 2 жыл бұрын
I was so hyped about C9 and LS that i was screaming everytime they won soooo hype. now i dont want to even stay until 4 in the morning to see C9 play . LS stay strong my dude you wiil be back
@jimgu2578
@jimgu2578 2 жыл бұрын
What an anticlimactic finish to LS’s reign of C9. I’m just disappointed that we don’t get to see more of it.
@Fulldre
@Fulldre 2 жыл бұрын
its also probably the only chance we will ever get of LS coaching and in basically full control.
@alexhansel4802
@alexhansel4802 2 жыл бұрын
I legitimately hope C9 dont even make playoffs now. Side note, the way LS responded to all this was absolute class, making c9 look like complete Dbags.
@simone8172
@simone8172 2 жыл бұрын
So conflicted cause I love the players and they don't deserve this shit, but unless the org has some DAMN good reasons, I hope they get all the shit that's coming to them and more
@ISesseriI
@ISesseriI 2 жыл бұрын
Got me omega fucked up. LS coaching c9 was my reason for actually watching LCS games as they happen for the first time in years. Been a huge fan of LS since season 6. Idk what reasoning for his release would be any less of a gut punch other than it being severely health or family related.
@MajorAfro
@MajorAfro 2 жыл бұрын
wasnt for health reasons. LS said he was healthy in a tweet
@jai3242
@jai3242 2 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day this just proves that C9 (the org, not the players) didn't deserve LS. So many players in so many teams have adopted ideas from LS over the past few years so I still believe there is hope for LS as a team coach and I really hope he does find a team that appreciates his work ethic and ideas. So many teams would be lucky to have him
@theultimaterage675
@theultimaterage675 2 жыл бұрын
Like the whole coaching staff and team was built around LS. I cant imagine how the korean imports feel cause probably one of the big reasons they came over was because of LS
@GENERALx5H4DY
@GENERALx5H4DY 2 жыл бұрын
Tsm LS, let the Villain arc begin
@II-js2rq
@II-js2rq 2 жыл бұрын
*shoutout to c9, F-you* best LS speech when he wins @ worlds
@egymario
@egymario 2 жыл бұрын
The World's Funniest One Liners ever! 1. Borrow money from a pessimist -- they don't expect it back. 2. For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism. 3. No one is listening until you make a mistake. 4. Eschew obfuscation. 5. I started out with nothing and I still have most of it. 6. A day without sunshine is like, night. 7. Okay, who stopped the payment on my reality check? 8. Diplomacy is the art of letting someone else get your way. 9. I've only been wrong once, and that's when I thought I was wrong. 10. I didn't use to finish sentences, but now I Perhaps the most thought-provoking one-liners is "Eat right. Stay fit. Die anyway." It's sad but true -- no matter what you do, you will die. This is because you have sinned against God. Let's see if that's true: Have you ever lied (even once)? Ever stolen (anything)? Jesus said, "Whoever looks upon a woman to lust after her, has committed adultery already with her in his heart." Ever looked with lust? If you have said "Yes" to these three questions, by your own admission, you are a lying, thieving, adulterer at heart; and we've only looked at three of the Ten Commandments. How will you do on Judgment Day? Will you be innocent or guilty? You know that you will be guilty, and end up in Hell. That's not God's will. He provided a way for you to be forgiven. He sent His Son to take your punishment: "God commended His love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us." Jesus then rose from the dead and defeated death. God promises everlasting life to all those who confess and forsake their sins, and trust in Jesus Christ. Please do that today . . . you may not have tomorrow. See John 14:21 for a wonderful promise. Then read the Bible daily and obey what you read. God will never let you down.Visit needgod.com
@Mickey-id6rs
@Mickey-id6rs 2 жыл бұрын
People are forgetting that max is LS's apprentice. He was coached by LS for at least a year, and they both share very similar views on the game. That draft was extremely odd for someone like max, and I don't think its too far out of the question to say that the entire team isn't in a good mental space.
@theultimaterage675
@theultimaterage675 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably one of those "just play standard teams" type of thing so they could autopilot a but since they probably werent in the best mental state
@luckybrand6762
@luckybrand6762 2 жыл бұрын
For all we know the players could have talked to each other and threw the game as a statement to the news.
@cibinomin6540
@cibinomin6540 2 жыл бұрын
@@theultimaterage675 they were just fine mentally and fudge even said the draft was shit so they couldnt play. what are you on about. it was clear for the players that ls is gonna get kicked
@cibinomin6540
@cibinomin6540 2 жыл бұрын
@@luckybrand6762 for all we know fudge himself made a statement on that and you could not be more wrong even if you tried
@marianvajda785
@marianvajda785 2 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure C9 and LCS sponsors are sending some questionmakrs to Jack now... If they do not come out with a solid reason they will lose a lot of fans. I am pretty sure C9 was building a big f anbase around the globe, and now they throw it out the window with a big part of the base fanbase too...
@psychopathicporo
@psychopathicporo 2 жыл бұрын
LS can form a team with EU's superstar Promisq and they can win worlds
@thangtruong6950
@thangtruong6950 2 жыл бұрын
Damn the first time i watch lcs in 7 years was for ls and now it's gone wtf
@michaelmenezes786
@michaelmenezes786 2 жыл бұрын
He’s completely right it’s the brand LS brought and especially the early success they had and fun drafts. It’s like when Berg left TSM, I lost all attachment to TSM, I even stuck around an extra year just cause he was the coach. But can’t believe C9 and even LCS and RIOT let this happen, and couldn’t find a way to make it work because it affects all of their brands in NA. Ppl were exited about NA again! And there was a team to compete with TL through creativity, and even the potential at worlds!
@ragnorian257
@ragnorian257 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is why they held on onto Zven and most of their good ass academy team, contingency plan for if they get rid of LS and then need to bench the Koreans when they stop playing well because the reason they joined is gone. This isn’t the first time c9 has pulled some scumfuckery (sneaky back in 2016-2018)- they have a history of Scamaz. Team is no longer enjoyable to watch, LS changed the meta.
@sebasbf27
@sebasbf27 2 жыл бұрын
C9 drafts were literally the ONLY reason I watched lcs this year
@captaintryhard4013
@captaintryhard4013 2 жыл бұрын
Ls out of C9 and you can see immediately a drop in draft quality.
@explorer678
@explorer678 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh. I was so hyped to watch LS and bjerg. And as soon as LS got kicked, I literally turned off lcs 😅🤣 so I have no interest in watching lcs, at least not c9. I'll maybe watch TL but even they will be boring cause they are literally gonna win the split easily. If they don't they're trolling lol
@maerski5171
@maerski5171 2 жыл бұрын
i think everyone can agree when I say that ls and this c9 brought in a lot of new viewers and supporters, me included, and seeing this today was devastating :(
@GlowmaticBikes
@GlowmaticBikes 2 жыл бұрын
LS was the only reason I started watching LCS again.
@pamounier
@pamounier 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis!!! I'm all in!! GET THAT TEAM AND GO TO WORLDS TO SLAP C9!!
@acutuap
@acutuap 2 жыл бұрын
I woke up, and saw the reddit threads and tweets more or less at the same time as you and had the exact same reaction. "???????????????????????????" is not lazy, it's just the perfect response.
@venteclol2635
@venteclol2635 2 жыл бұрын
Im so sad i just cant belive wtf just happend 😢😢😢
@cardonchristensen5614
@cardonchristensen5614 2 жыл бұрын
I gonna keep it 💯, unless LS was released because he straight up committed a crime (which I highly doubt), I will never cheer for C9 again.
@tianolamas7832
@tianolamas7832 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, he has past of going on very strong mentall breakdowns on players sometimes. Maybe he got too comfortable and blew out of hand with a player and at that point something has to happen
@xEmpress95
@xEmpress95 2 жыл бұрын
@@tianolamas7832 I'd believe this if not for the radio silence. C9's brand is in the shitter right now, with a lot of doubters, and people question marking the entire situation. If LS was objectively in the wrong and had broken down like that toward a player, then why wouldn't C9 hold him accountable for that? Why wouldn't C9 make a statement like that? Especially with the Regi situation in TSM. They could've easily covered their asses by scapegoating LS. And if they didn't do that because they care about LS, then why not keep him on payroll for the year and step him down to assistant coach rather than releasing him? So Max Waldo can better control the flow of information and player relations without stressing LS. If you cut ties with someone for screaming at your best friend, and someone goes "why did you cut that person?" you're not gonna just be like oh i can't talk about it. you're gonna be like, yeah, he called my friend a piece of shit and i don't stand for that.
@upbeatblueberry4624
@upbeatblueberry4624 2 жыл бұрын
I got two 14 sec ads for this lol
@Greedman456
@Greedman456 2 жыл бұрын
Actually what you proposed of you and LS starting a team would be awesome:). I really believe people would love to watch you guys rise to power:P
@xerodight2057
@xerodight2057 2 жыл бұрын
What LS should do: 1: LS breaks his rule of never coaching again to Join T1 2: Win this year's world champion 3: Hold the Cup with Faker and say "Shoutout to C9 and their support" 4: Faker then proceeds to announce his retirement after winning his last world championship 5: We all cry 6: End of an Era
@kinghungxix8471
@kinghungxix8471 2 жыл бұрын
Fudge today builds Liandry on Corki not for damage purpose but to honor LS aka Liandry Saleman, the way Riot did.
@MrSqUiRrElBoY100
@MrSqUiRrElBoY100 2 жыл бұрын
I have been a C9 fan since like 2013 and this is the tipping point, on to the next one i guess.... absolute fuckery C9
@infpail7232
@infpail7232 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see Caedral’s réaction to the PR video by C9. Really curious what he thinks of it
@yeeeooo7955
@yeeeooo7955 2 жыл бұрын
another team needs to pick him up asap before he goes back to korea
@Daksterizer
@Daksterizer 2 жыл бұрын
Love it, Caedrel. keep up the good work.
@eggheadmu
@eggheadmu 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the "LS DONEZO Manifesto"
@I-am-Igris
@I-am-Igris 2 жыл бұрын
Time for REKLESS SPECULATION
@hmgdude1590
@hmgdude1590 2 жыл бұрын
LS was the only reason I watch C9 this year. His style of coaching is different and it brought back the fun in the LCS. His willingness and daring strategies are really fun to watch and he got rid of the BORING LCS gameplay. He really tried to bring back the NEW and the FUN back in League of Legends though his coaching. this is very disappointing on C9's part. C9, you are a disappointment to the game of League of Legends after this. You really fucked a person when he had to decide to change his life to follow his passion to make the game fun and enjoyable again. YOU GUYS WERE WINNING, and now you LOST TO THE WORST TEAM IN THE LCS. I hope you continue to reap what you sow. Really, C9, you care nothing for the game, the team, and the fans, that is proof after what you done to LS. LS, I wish you good luck. I hope you get a chance to Take C9 down and put them in the grave. Then take all their players or the core players from them to a different team. C9 doesn't deserve you or the players that follow you. C9 has lost my support.
@bgthereformer
@bgthereformer 2 жыл бұрын
LS was a huge chance for the LCS to improve. I believed that LS with crazy drafts was gonna raise the bar in the LCS to a point where LCS could finally compete internationally again, I guess thats not happening anymore.
@keithD3286
@keithD3286 2 жыл бұрын
Wow they did him real dirty. LS would have been a Taric for C9 - a glimmer of hope. The church is closed, but not for long..
@pamounier
@pamounier 2 жыл бұрын
C9 built the brand around LS - that is the only reason I was getting hyped about them.
@kevinpajunurm5585
@kevinpajunurm5585 2 жыл бұрын
Im still here thinking this is some super early april fools joke? I honestly can't belive it
@markusmelvold8988
@markusmelvold8988 2 жыл бұрын
Not that I have been keeping up with all League of Legends around the world, but LS strikes me as a coach that has a unique perspective on the game, and makes weird picks and strategies work. Seems a lot like like how G2 was looked upon at their greatest back in 2018-2019. I would love to see those forces amplify each other and make a team who does weird stuff that just works. Even though personally I am not a G2 fan. I would love to see if they could "go back to their roots" and spark hire LS as coach. Just to spice up the league. I like the narritive Caedrel had of LS joining another team and stomping C9.
@111risto
@111risto 2 жыл бұрын
Fudge building Liandry says it all...
@takumifujiwara300
@takumifujiwara300 2 жыл бұрын
C9 Jack(CEO of C9) Saw the tweet about Corejj getting Green Card so he FF the entire season.
@Bizyze
@Bizyze 2 жыл бұрын
He definitely has a lot of options in terms of coaching but I dont think he really wants to go to team that are low tier in LCS / LCK so he will probably go back streaming imo!
@t-virusterrance4734
@t-virusterrance4734 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Humans. There are computers designed for Amish people, with selling points like “No internet, no video, no music”. TERRANCE OUT
@nichtmarcel
@nichtmarcel 2 жыл бұрын
much love
@MiraPacku
@MiraPacku 2 жыл бұрын
omg if LS comes to Europe I'm actually gonna have to sign of irl
@faselfasel2864
@faselfasel2864 2 жыл бұрын
How is it even possible to kick LS out like this? What kind of garbage contract did he have to allow something like this? This makes no sense. We deserve an explanation. Max Waldo is also basically just a LS pupil. He learned everything from him, so it cant have to do with coaching approach necessarily. He is a capable coach when he works WITH LS, but he isnt capable without him. "If we dont go 2-0 against CLG and TSM, something is seriously wrong." WELL that prophecy is already fulfilling LOL.
@kieranrorison534
@kieranrorison534 2 жыл бұрын
It’s possibly if LS breaches his contract. There’s a lot more to this than meets the eye.
@ricobarth
@ricobarth 2 жыл бұрын
@@kieranrorison534 You know nothing.
@ArcaneTricksterRS
@ArcaneTricksterRS 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched any C9 games (will never watch the region unless something massive changes that would move them from a wildcard region), but I'm pretty confident that the problem was LS being hard to deal with by most players.
@alotasca6845
@alotasca6845 2 жыл бұрын
My wild guess about the situation is the Behind The Scenes video has to do with something. I was a fan of watching the video and looking at LS saying ''I don't know what they were doing with this draft (referring to opposite team)'' but imo that was the limit of criticizing, in the last video at one part he just straight up denigrated PowerOfEvil, TSM (Especially the midlaner), and CLG, meaning that these players and orgs just got their value of the floor, its the same situation that happened (i dont remember if 2020 or 2019) with Leena saying ''nobody wants Dardoch'' you can't just straight up say that someone or some org is trash just because you think it. Imagine if someone like Steph Curry or LeBron go to a press conference and someone asks them what to they think about the Houston Rockets (atm the worst team in the NBA) and they say something like ''I think my son could play better than them'' or something like that, and I compare this big figures to LS because lets be honest, the ''franchise figure'' of the team right before all the scandal was LS, and everybody wanted to see him (either lose or win). I believe that both Regi and Hotshot didn't like this, cause lets be real, CLG and TSM are huge orgs despite recent results, so maybe something weird happened there. Of course, like I said at the start, this is my wild guess (yes, it's pretty wild), but I wouldn't be surprised if it has something to do with it.
@PassivesAbseits
@PassivesAbseits 2 жыл бұрын
" you can't just straight up say that someone or some org is trash" Doublelift would disagree right there... and he never got into trouble for being arrogant. Also, to point to the most famous example, José Mourinho is probably the greatest asshole soccer ever produced... and one of the most successful coaches ever. And compared to the things Mourinho did, LS is a saint. Finally: even if it hurts you as Reginald or HotshotGG: They have to understand, that this creates views and by extention revenue for them. LS brought so much hype to this league... Also... both have a history of trash talking...
@hatakenewt348
@hatakenewt348 2 жыл бұрын
Or you know, you can just fucking cut that part out of the video?
@ziontheoblivion
@ziontheoblivion 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. All interest in LCS went out the window now. Report Jack for this one.
@slj1537
@slj1537 2 жыл бұрын
Why even bother watching the LCS anymore? This was the first time in a very long time I was actually excited to watch a region again (outside of LCK). C9 brought out these really cool comps designed to change our perspective of league, which it did for me at least. I felt for the first time in a long time as an NA player we are finally going to have a world caliber team in C9 who isnt afraid to be bold in the way they play. I like team liquid, but what is even remotely close to their competition now? EG and 100T? TL will probably go to worlds this year they will probably go 3-3 or maybe make it to quarters only to lose to other eastern teams. RIP the dream
@koreanata6951
@koreanata6951 2 жыл бұрын
You never know where the shoe is hurting the leg, man. Before you hear both sides better don't take a side. You never know with LS what is cooked...
@costasjasonps
@costasjasonps 2 жыл бұрын
Wait what? Why? What happened? No more late night sleeps to watch C9.
@Cattinuum
@Cattinuum 2 жыл бұрын
LS we need u here in Manchester United
@user-yc9ig1nl2h
@user-yc9ig1nl2h 2 жыл бұрын
ᅠ ᅠ
@Ranoiaetep
@Ranoiaetep 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know, you still assume C9 going to world 🙃
@alan1407x
@alan1407x 2 жыл бұрын
Could be something related to his korean residency.. (check AMA when he joined C9 on reddit)
@drakoheart3376
@drakoheart3376 2 жыл бұрын
LCS is just a reality TV show at this point
@Jakescapez
@Jakescapez 2 жыл бұрын
C9 probably to release a statement in a few days, a lot of the rumours have being around LS status in Korea and how he needs to be there for 5 years for residency and how he has to go back, before 30 days rolls over or else he loses the progress he’s made towards that residency.
@joshkaufman6775
@joshkaufman6775 2 жыл бұрын
Fudge built LIANDRYS TORMENT on corki.. shade at LS
@Raigan_Avalon
@Raigan_Avalon 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know that LCS isn't worth watching again.
@theogthugcat
@theogthugcat 2 жыл бұрын
first thing my man say...'Deserved' 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@userjatto1603
@userjatto1603 2 жыл бұрын
Bro without LS we never would’ve gotten soraka mid or ivern mid
@raybribreezy
@raybribreezy 2 жыл бұрын
The Travis Gafford interview was weird. I know Max couldn't talk about what happened, but it was like he was avoiding even mentioning LS existed, like he didn't praise LS or say that they will miss him. He could just be covering his bases to not let anything slip, but it felt like the org's sentiment is to pretend LS was never there.
@cronotriggered4314
@cronotriggered4314 2 жыл бұрын
Biggest bitch slap to the face any org has ever done to it's fans as far as I can remember. Regardless of what happened there's no way this was the best way to handle the situation. Literally no one could focus on the game when the announcement came 3 minutes before it started and was followed by complete radio silence. The casters were confused, the players were lost, twitch chat was such a dumpster fire they had to turn emote only on, those same spammers flocked to co streams to spam the same stuff, twitter exploded with confusion. Any respect I had for this organization has pretty much dissipated in the last 24 hours.
@georgehunt292
@georgehunt292 2 жыл бұрын
#JusticeforLS
@randomhero6365
@randomhero6365 2 жыл бұрын
I stopped playing and watching League E sports for years. When I saw LS was coming to Coach I started watching again this season. Shame he got the boot so early and my other team TSM is a joke now too it seems.
@jedaksears
@jedaksears 2 жыл бұрын
I dont like LS and think he has a serious victim complex that makes him kind of a cuastic asshole...but I was still hyped to watch and see if he could back up his wild fucking statements and promises. In part I kinda wanted to see C9 lose but it was still interesting and his drafts were fucking out there and somehow worked. Credit where it is due. I am baffled C9 gave him the boot like this with 0 context since they set up so much branding and put so much importance on his being there.
@itznukeey
@itznukeey 2 жыл бұрын
G2 LS, the runback
@mcfly6618
@mcfly6618 2 жыл бұрын
tarumlüg rutangisnetauq Programmierer der Master K. I. !.
@srbclangaming
@srbclangaming 2 жыл бұрын
It must be really hard being an LCS fan tbh. All they do is bring in big names to get X amount of fans per season without ever once it being helpful in the long run for the teams. And the constant cycle of these players/coaches is not doing them a favor either, because we have ended up in teams being supported because of the players and not the teams themselves. Just like the NBA, sacrifice the soul of the game/sport for entertainment. Was really hyped for LS and C9 and rivalry with TL this season.
@ensiemen9836
@ensiemen9836 2 жыл бұрын
real chad move would be a team like EG or TL just signing him and they shit on C9
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