Links to some things talked about in this video: Original article of 'Who's The Beatdown':articles.starcitygames.com/articles/whos-the-beatdown/ Video followup to that article by one of the best MTG players still/ever PVDDR: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9OAf7OYvsfdlps.html

I heard him say Sona jungle and was like, "What now?" and just kind of paused for a bit trying to figure out if Sona was a good jungler until he said, "No no no, Sona and a jungle pick." Nice to know that I'm not the only one not understanding

Always appreciate LS comparing league to card games. It’s one of the most unique views on the game

This was probably one of my favorite LS vids, I really enjoy it when he talks like this about draft and when we get insight into how and why he coaches.

Hey LS, have you ever consider creating a full on guide about drafting? I think it would be akin to the TCG like deckbuilding in MTG, Yugioh, or Hearthsone. It would be sick to learn about some fundamental ideas of drafting. I know you may have videos in the past, but there may be a lot of new eyes that have trouble going through past vods (cause I am one of them). Keep up the great work! 👍

I really love to hear you talk about your thought process in drafting. You've been a huge inspiration to me

LS grinding content again. Lets go!

Hey LS, the way you communicate and explain yourself in this video was really clear, even thought you might take the time to explain stuff that are obvious for more knowledgeable people, i appreciate you did so i could've undertand the entire thought process. Congrats.

I appreciate hearing about league game theory. I feel like so many people could benifit hearing about the idea of trying to identify and play around a win condition. Instead so much of league content is explaining how to carry your team which is not always very helpful.

I loved this style of video, I see the dedication keep up the good work Nice to see you back and pls do more like this

*standing ovation* brilliant. you're so good at presenting your argument and listing examples and conclusions that come after much observation, including examples that are transferrable from other games at a pro level. i know that at that high level of mentality it's normal (or at least should be), but it's very difficult sometimes to have others follow your train of thought long enough to get it, too, and i think you did that very well here. this was basically a really good video essay to me xD what's hilarious is that what you explain from who's the beatdown deck is technically not new in games. people discover how to use characters in other games in the opposite way of what is expected, they excel at it, and the same character becomes something new because of its newfound application, but in a very specific scenario. but also, it could be said that here it's not even that. basically, it's knowing what each piece in the draft/deck is going to be used for and then using it that way xD i feel like this is why i have understood a lot of what you say/have said about high level of play despite never having reached that point in any game. a winning comp handled poorly leading to a loss shouldn't be a huge revelation

I LOVE this style of video, great to see you coming back with a banger!

It would be really entertaining to see another draft battle with Caedrel. I know you guys already did that, but it’s so interesting to actually see some of your drafting ideas come to fruition in a full draft. I feel like a lot of people would enjoy it.

really enjoyed this video with the in depth analysis! would love more of these

You've really changed the way I look at the game LS. So glad you're back. Stay healthy my guy! The LB pick commentary is making me laugh so hard lol

Really liked this format of video. Would love to see another draft battle against other analysts or pros, it would be great content!

Finally! Hopefully this is gonna answer alot of my questions.

Calling it now - This will be one of your most successful videos on KZfaq.

We need more videos like this, I love these analysis type videos so fucking much! much love

It's really interesting to see this kind of analysis on the drafts

I like the way you speak. Also, really deep and at the same time natural way to see the game. Great content

It's been a while since I clicked so fast on a video. That's what I'm subscribed for, love it 👌

hey LS, just to tell you that I would pay for an entire series on developing your approach of draft in LoL !

LS you're a champ for staying on this man, keep fighting the good fight

Thank you for coming back. I missed you mentor!

Bruh I’ve been waiting so long for you explain this😂

Would love to see a breakdown of the 100T TL draft since you felt 100T won and a lot of people did not.

really appreciate this LS. Hope all is well with you :)

I think this also goes back to everyone playing the same thing and the meta reverting into what always has been because of what LS says during the last minutes of the video. Nobody wants to learn certain comps or don’t figure it out in the end so there are 2 choices: 1) continue to run it down until you get it 2) revert to what you already know and the champions you know so you stop running it down, which’s basically saying that you don’t want to learn and continue playing the same way without innovation

Really liked this video and would love more analysis like this where you go into more detail about key areas of a game rather than the usual costream/ liveview commentary.

I may be the minority, but I absolutely love this type of high level break down of what LS is thinking. Please make more! Very few league content creators can thoroughly explain why something is definitively bad, and they often provide no alternatives.

this might be one of my favorite vids of yours

This is a very informative vídeo, ty LS!

More of these videos, loving it!

More of this LS This was brilliant

great to see you uploading again

I love the typical cold LS roasting champions for being bad moments. Having Leblanc being roasted like a fucking thanksgiving turkey warms my heart.

Draft analysis are the best LS videos ngl

THE CONTENT IM WAITING FOR THANKS LS

This video generally illustrates what I LOVE about LS's game theory and knowledge on the game. And also highlights what people dislike about LS in terms of his way of handling people who are opposed to him in some places. It's basically 'the most LS video in a while'.

the 27 min or so talk of "we are gonna run it until you get it right" its like a theory professor i had. we are doing this. . . why? . . do you understand why?. . . how do you know?. . . . actually looking at something. . .ACTUALLY OBJECTIVELY and ACTUALLY trying to understand something is fantastic love it

I don't know if you'll read this comment, but there's a team in NA proving grounds called AOE Ginger Tumeric that has some interesting drafts (for competitive play) that I think you might be interested in. Particularly their top (Moosehater), jungler (Keel), mid laner (Cpt shrimps) and support (duoking) go against the grain by picking champions like Fiora, Kayle and Zac for toplane; Udyr, Fiddles, Karthus and Lillia for JG; Gangplank, Xerath and Kayle for Mid; and Blitzcrank, Zyra, Soraka, Senna and Sona for support. Obviously the level of competition is not as high as top tier leagues, but I think way more consideration goes into their picks. Thank you for the insightful analysis and hope you're feeling better.

The analogy to card games really opens your eyes to the way league should be played based on comp(decks). Reminds me of watching new players in clash royale picking up different popular decks (control, bait and beat down) and playing them entirely opposite to the way it was meant to. Now I see why he looks at pro games and his hairline recedes after every game.

Hard seeing LS stress/anxiety scratch always wish he feels better.

Hey LS, would love to see this type of breakdown for an LPL game

I have not yet read the article, but even in the FGC, something less composition/preset based, this concept applies for practice. To fundamentally understand your tools you have to use them until you find spots and situations where one thing works and one thing doesn't. In fighting games this moreso takes the shape of knowing what move to use where. To find a use for a move you have use it until you figure out when and where it can help you. Kog can help you get through enemies, where they have walls and when he is protected.

I love these type of analysis. I'm curious if you still talk to any of the c9 players and coaches during this split (ofc if you are allowed to talk about that)

Love these, thank you

Hope LS do more of these vids

Loved this video

Return of the King

Love this!

I like when you upload "serious" content like that.

Hey LS reallyyyy love this type of content, since i myself really like to analyse drafts, but also want to be better at it. I really like when you go into depth about why the champions arent good when they are picked at certain points in the draft and why they maybe in general arent good. If you make more of this type of content, i think explaining what other picks would have been better like you did with xin'zhao, it would make everyone watching even happier. But i really love your content in general, but this really is on another level!

Love this video explanation! Favorite content

It's funny how people will say that LS is completely anti LPL but they literally follow his beat down concept.... They are the best at playing aggressive comps because they know what champions are best for that...

sry but sona jungle doesnt sound out of your wheel house at this point, you open so many doors lmao

Seeing this type of video but for the tiebreaker c9 vs fly draft would be awesome (since they actually drafted xin double enchanter, yuumi zilean, and carries with it) don't know if he even watched the game but damn it's literally what he was talking about in this video

best video so far!

FINALLY A DRAFT VID

When i heard that you made them play the same comp over and over, it did sound strange. But now with this explanation it makes sense that you want them to understand how the comp works

Well what he's saying is true every TCG professional plays atleast 30 matches against all top tier decks going both first and second to see what there deck is weak against and what it can struggle through and still win. Really common knowledge to be honest, I'm watching PTCGO people preparing for world's rn trying to figure out what deck works best for them.

Just in case anyone is confused, when he says "sona jungle" he means picking sona AND a jungler, not picking sona in the jungle, dont get any ideas!

This guy not being a coach is such a waste. I don't hate C9 as an org only for kicking him but the kick causing that LS is most likely done with coaching any team for ever because of that experience.

I think the league comparison would be like playin an on hit champ like a long cd mage. running in with cooldowns or sitting in the back instead of auto attacking

This dude is like a super nerd. I love him

Holy shit the, do it until we get it right rant. This is how I was coached when I played sports. It's shocking that no one in esports figured this out.

I feel like in a crude way, tft’s system could be used to help explain a lot of what LS tries to convey with champions being along the same school of thought. In a way that traits and origins work, characters can be along the same school of thought and mesh well together. Within those traits, there are certain bis characters as certain units are 1-5 in gold cost. While it’s not perfect, it can be a better analogy as a lot of people already know league characters instead of trying to explain it through terms like MTG

hey man do you have some course of drafting or how champions work ? it would be really interesting. You have a mindset for the game that really intrigues me

So sad we wont get to see LS coach a team that gets him and is ready to adapt and evolve as a team, leaving behind their biases and ready to see the game in a different way.

Damn ls you're too smart for this game

People thought LS only drafted enchanter, peeling, non-aggressor comps...when it was the enemy team that always drafted aggressive engage comps.

send this out to some coaches

If I dismiss layering and just draft on theme is that already better than most drafts?

Hi LS, would you be willing to coach Elite500? He's in Korea atm and I've heard you talk abt coaching him in the past, would be super interesting and informative!

I can't believe my football coach forced us to run the same play 40 times, I think it's because he hates us, not because the Frontline is missing their blocks 👍

I can't understand shit I think anything's viable but I love watching LS

23:30 until end - learning

Nice vid

Pls more content like this

Cool video

C9: Draft dystopia

Would lilia or gwen be considered grey Champs or be good in 3 pick for eg instead of hecarim?

What kind of comps/champs would you pair with tristana mid? or do you think she isn't viable in proplay in the current meta. Would love to hear your thoughts

Could you reasonably pick something like an Olaf top with ghost on R5 if you're C9 here just as a way to try and salvage the comp? It leaves you without any real ways to iniate fights on your own terms besides the LB trying to make something happen but I would think a high gold value Olaf with a yuumi would remove any value the front line of EG has and then the LB, Twitch, or Viego could clean up the characters Olaf has a harder time reaching.

Yes good please more

I would assume that players would all be willing to play there comps repeatedly while also changing one champion because you might not get 1 of them. So the idea is the same but maybe 1 or 2 parts have change but not the fundamental of the comp.

maybe an olaf jg on R4 was better than viego? i mean its good with enchanter, good against ornn, vi, ahri and sivir. I dont know if polymorph works against olaf if you R beforehand but i could be wrong tho. Just a thought i had when you said "a jg thats good with enchanters"

Goddamn I missed LS

Please do some lpl costreaming its banging and they do a lot of stuff u hate like wukong and vi and crazy fistfights

6:10 What does he mean with there are other champs that can do the same, what are the best 3 picks that he would swap with lb

@LS if you see this, THANK YOU. I really want to pick your brain on this. I agree with your statement, LCS will die in a year or so. i am curious, what is the benefit of Franchising in the LCS? Why doesn't the LCS and in general US sports create a league like South Korea or like the English Premier League (Soccer/Futbol)? Would it not be more beneficial and more exciting to see teams be relegated to a lower division and the promotion of teams from the lower league to the top league? It would be great to see academy teams to earn those spots to play in the top league as well. It would show growth and true competition. I don't see the benefit of franchising other than greed... I really enjoy the European Soccer Leagues because of the emotion and drama within the leagues. The last 2 teams get relegated to the lower league and have to earn their way back in. The top 2 teams from the lower league get promoted into the top league. In order to earn your spot into a Top tournament, you have to be the top 4 or top 5 teams to gain a spot. the League and the regular season mean something. The games mean something and you are playing for something. which means ALL TEAMS would need to try and actually play the game. I personally, do not like how we have summer split and spring split, but none of that really means anything because there is no reason to really perform. you just have to wait for the tournament to perform because everyone makes it to playoffs. so why even perform? literally it is just 20 practice games until the tournament. The split means nothing. I just want some of your insight.

LS I LOVE YOU

Would R5 be good for aatrox, Yuumi movement speed and R movement speed, should keep up. Fine vs Ornn, I think and is a good Pseudo frontline as he has good healing

Can you do more videos like this on draft

Hope you’re doing better LS, miss the content.

Lpl/lck are sorta playing comps like this to their strengths

Would love to see you coaching G2, I think they have 5 extremely flexible players that you could exploit very well,

"sona, jungle" not to be confused with "sona jungle"

man I miss the old, low quality, just raw file without edit videos.. idk why there is just something about them