I'm not super knowledgable on DC's scaling, but outer to high outer should be where that scales if it matches the main multiversal.

For those who said this is cap, oblivion is boundless omnipotent, omnipresent, and omniscient being bruh. Correction: For fulcrum it's mid diff.. CHILL guys Let me explain how strong is oblivion is, first of all thing oblivion was stated that he is Omni being (the being that have absolutely every Omni Power) J.M.DeMatteis (one of the marvel writers) confirm oblivion contains absolutes everything in our world nothiness and so on, he even said that he is equaled to real life God power, he's power beyond fiction itself. Tier 0 (boundless) Beyond non existence/existence He's an anti fiction (a fictional characters that are beyond fiction itself), Oblivion is said can kill real life readers, exist in our real world, can sense the real life readers, can talk to real life readers. Beyond concept of dream's, math. Still wanted more about oblivion?! He's said to us (oblivion) "my true form body is transcended what you can see" meaning that true form oblivion is real not made up. Everything that See's his true form body would absolutely gone like nothing (comic verse). In the comic it's not his actual true form body no writers can draw his true form body.

​@xjuul 1. Author statements are always non cannon unless agreed upon by publisher or a comic 2. Dr strange can kill the reader with his spells superman can sense the reader. So all this is unproven cause oblivion ain't coming out of comic books to beat my ass.

@@user-ik8tb5qh7c or maybe, it's because we haven't seen his true form? he hasn't shown us it, not for his own benefit, but for ours. as if we saw it, we would cease to exist, we would witness... oblivion itself.

@@coolstuff1471 you: 🐺🥶

Do you know how to defeat darkness... lighter 😅 21 yrs old vs 2 yrs old 21 yrs old got bored and left 2 yrs old won Logically Lucifer is endless so oblivion is not inevitable (atleast in fight between oblivion vs Lucifer)

Lucifer slaps this fodder

Lucifer wins bro.

Lucifer : *i am the inevitable*

Iceman #4 isnt actually considered canon anymore, not to mention at that time others had similar statements

OK. Thank you for the info!!!!!

​@@ENGTech867 thanks for watching!

in the comic it was said that oblivion can kill the reader with its true form, I don't see how lucifer is being more powerful here. the power of oblivion transcends into real life, and surpasses lucifer.

@@DELT1407 i dont believe in meta nonsense

@@smal750 Your opinion does not evade the fact that OBLIVION is infinitely superior to Lucifer. Also, you're only saying that because it's a Feat that lucifer doesn't have and will never have, so you're never going to accept it, because it would mean you're admitting that lucifer can lose against non-TOAA Marvel characters, and that hurts FANBOYS like hell with you.

@@DELT1407 how am i a fanboy

@@DELT1407 Lucifer scales way higher than beings who litteraly embody the readers

Oblivion is overrated fodder lol

Lucifer fought dark presence who is stronger than oblivion bro.

The answer is in ur question Beyonder got retconned That means he can't even protect himself from getting retcon

@@rishavrai99999 oh naw naw naw im talking about before all that bullshit happened😂 otherwise yeah Elaine would take it

Ken FTW.

Scp and WoD moment

Lucifer > Oblivion TF = Pralaya TF

platonic frogus can beat him

Lucifer never went passed the Overvoid.

@@windandcloudshadow158 He went into the overvoid

Lucifer wins he's second only to the presence Micheal is 3rd

@@willjohnboy no they both are equal in strength ,speed , knowledge stuff but he is not durable like lucifer do to his dimirgic power (power of creation ) he can reborn but it will destroy the creation i like if michael is durable like lucifer and create multiverse s like the hands

​@@willjohnboy Michael >~ Lucifer

​@@MORNINGSTAREDITZ.Lucifer already beaten him

​@@smal750hell no

boundless? or without bond?

Boundless lol. He must hate debt

Deathstroke

Luci has scaled to and beyond the beings with the same statements.

Lucifer has a whole life outside of comics lol

ALL of them? As in the whole race?

Matthew Schwartz: Yes.

​@@too_official6194 damn

​@@too_official6194still nothing lol

​@@too_official6194stop.

Serphimon's "seven heaven's" attack hits you with the big bang and he's fodder too.

I do

Oblivion bro.

@@bobopatchnosuke229 But isn't true form Phoenix Force in the white hot room stated by the Beyonder to be capable of killing omnipotent beings?

Um 💀

Those beings arent universal lol

@@DocGoon they’re multiversal?

@@kylecollins3755 true forms are outerversal for them They actually cant be seen in dimensions unless they use realm of manifestations

Oblivion one shots LT

​@@smal750 True Form LT would clap True Form Oblivion

@@alexnoir1018 how

@@smal750 LT's true form is 'literally' pure abstraction contextually

​@@alexnoir1018Oblivion mere avatars are stated beyond every form of death ,hell the death itself comes from oblivion.A mere fraction of his power make multieternity his bit×h.Black winter avatar who represents death was about to devour the entire 8th cosmos containing true LT.

Luci has done that too

Not really marvel has it own white page which is gutter space and the realm of oblivion, the outside is way below gutter space, and honestly cosmology wise,the outside will probably scale to the godshere in dc

@@voidgod7178 lmaooo

@@DocGoon not really,I know it's seem like I am down playing,but that's the truth,the outside doesn't fit in any place in dc cosmology aside from the gods sphere,it definitely isn't monitor sphere,they are completely different,you can make an argument for limbo tho,it's definitely isn't fifth or sixth dimension and it isn't source wall

@@voidgod7178 how you gonna tell me not really when i said lmao? Your take made me laugh you downplaying or not has nothing to do with me laughing at it

True form oblivion is nothing Oblivion and true form oblivion both are same Oblivion said that his true face would hurt the viewer(that doesn't mean his true face is his true form)

@@rishavrai99999 yes it does tf

@@dsm2417 nah...I don't know where fans started this...but true form oblivion is not different from oblivion (in Marvel, some dimensions are so wide that humans can't handle their vastness and that can affect the viewer) Similarly the real face of oblivion can hurt the brain of viewer

@@rishavrai99999 he never said hurt said it could threaten us

@@dsm2417 brain can't handle something= can get hurt Threatening means harmful or hurtful And what did I say?

More like Pralaya

Deathstroke folds him.

Deadpool wins, however if deathstroke can find a way to stop deadpools healing factor then he wins although that's nearly impossible to do.

@@too_official6194 still can incap him. Deathstroke is more skilled, deadlier arsenal, more experienced and thanks to his armor, can dish out anything DP throws at him. Y'all wilding if you think Deadpool can hang with stroke when he can't even hang with moon knight🤣

@@too_official6194 blade or gorgon vs Deathstroke is a much better matchup

@@too_official6194 tell me how DP is getting through strokes armor with handguns and explosives when it can tank punches from superman? DP isn't smarter, or stronger or faster or literally anything over stroke except his healing factor and his skills aren't enough to capitalize on killing stroke.