Cole's reaction to dragon warfare reminded me of how the European battlefield changed with the introduction of cannons in the Middle Ages.. the shift in the scale of destruction that could be wrought so swiftly. A dragon is the living embodiment of that devastation in the field.

Awwwww Nettles!!!! Thank you so much❤❤❤ Thanks y’all!

Aegon should have just clocked in for his kingly duties, done the bare minimum, and then clocked out. Afterward, he could spend his days hanging out with Sunfire.

I think sleeeping on the weirwood bed gives you dreams and makes you sleep walk, but the Leaf tea makes you hallucinate while awake.

Daemon's major advantage in not being seen as a horrible person is 100% because he's played by Charisma personified Matt Smith.

"It's just meat," Hugh's line when looking at Meleys's head, is so so so important.

I think part of Daemon’s ark is going to be him realizing that Otto was right about him making a bad king. That look on his face when being confronted by the River lords gave me that impression

Daemon & Viserys consistently choosing (different but longstanding) behavioral patterns because they feel abandoned by the death of their mother FINALLY CONFIRMED.

Interesting that both Daemon and Jamie dream of their mothers in Weirwood dreams, seems to be a strong connection between the Weirwoods and Mothers The Weirwoods even symbolise mothers cradling both Bran and Bloodraven in the main series too More of that Womb and Tomb symbolism

Sean had a good point about Aegon's box (litter). You can't bring him in showing what happened to him, it'll cause panic or inspire insurrection. They have to bring him in still guarded, from the gates to the Red Keep. The people are starving, so there's a chance they'd attempt to raid the litter, thinking it could be food shipment. Parading Meleys' head was a distraction to get Aegon back into the Red Keep.

I know it’s a bit much but the image of Meleys running daemon away terrified is reallly funny to me 😂😂😂

Also, can you imagine the raven shes going to get from the guy she sent to check on Daemon "Uuuh, he's talking to soup..."

I live for Nettles's takes, she calls out everything that caught my attention from the watch, and she has the exact same thinking as I do. Simon's looks in Alys's direction seemed more like "what are you looking at Daemon?" to me, but he dare not question Daemon about it.

Surprised there was no mention of the disrespect given to the dragons in this episode. We started with Maelys’ head being paraded in the streets. Then the Brackens straight up turning their backs on Caraxes like they didn’t give a FU… then the Freys looking at Vermax like meh… Jeyne Arryn showed little respect for them even though in her case it may have been justified. But man Dragons got no respect this episode.

You haven’t mentioned it, but did anyone notice that he got a taste of ruling when the people came to complain and he had no patience for it?

This Daemon ambition isn’t paid off. It’s a wrong direction.

So happy to have Girl Nettles back!! ❤❤❤

David’s Daemon roast was spot on. All of a sudden you want the crown and you’re gonna win it with Simon strong and the Brackens? 😐

This episode was all over the place. It’s like the characters are written by a different person at the beginning of each episode. You never who you’re going to get or what their personality is going to be like. It’s a surprise!

My favorite scene was the way all the men's voices became faint and muffled as Alicent sat nervously at the small council, almost as if she realized the mistakes she's made .. she's still overlooked and playing into the men's hands.

I like that Jace and Baela don’t kiss or that’s not the focus. They feel like the only true companionship based relationship, based on respect and love. Jace goes out of his way to defend Baela. It really feels like they have a love that isn’t completely based on young lusty fire. Im sure the lust is there, but Jace and Baela are a true parallel to Daemon & Rhaenyra. Love Jace and baela.

2:11:32 YES. Thank you. Dave noticed the same thing as me. It almost feels like whiplash sometimes between episodes. The characters just keep doing 180s

My heart broke for Aegon when he whispered, “Mummy”. 😢

2:36:16 onwards felt like a group therapy session. This critique was much needed

Replay Crew! I feel like the problems David is pointing out with dialogue, character motivation and development is due to the writer's strike. George mentioned that when the strike started that the script was finished, but that doesn't mean that it was fine tuned as it normally would be. But HBO went ahead with filming without having the writers on call or even on set as they normally would. So things like cohesion between episodes, as well as actor contributions are not present.

Just a lil Frey defense: not every Frey is Walder, Ryman, or Lothar. The Freys in this story dont betray or backstab, at least not according to F&B. They pick a side and stick to it. Just because they run a toll bridge doesnt mean they are historically and constantly evil, and just because the Red Wedding happened doesnt mean the entire house at that point is evil. For every Lothar, you have an Olyvar

Rhaenyra sending Velaryon fishing boats to smuggle food into King's Landing in her name would win her so many points with the small folk.

"... Oh and someone cut down the f*cking ratcatchers." Is my favorite line of the episode. To end his first council meeting as regent, by repudiating his brother's greatest folly seemingly as an afterthought, is the perfect punctuation of Aemond's casual assertiveness. In other words "I run shit now. And I don't intend on playing stupid games or winning stupid prizes."

Theres probably some dragonbond stuff with Sunfyre and Aegon both being catatonic. Cole presumed Sunfyre dying and the grandmaester couldn't say if Aegon would ever awake so parallels there. I can't remember how it goes in the book but it could be cool if they recover around the same time to show their bond.

I am uncertain where they are going with the Daemond/Harrenhal parts, but I really like everything they show me from the Harrenhal storyline. The way I read it so far is that Daemond is getting confronted with his own doubts, insecurities, and the consequences of his actions. When he has to deal with the lords of the Riverlands in the night the scene felt very dreamy. Like Daemon is trying so hard to play the part of the Targaryen dragonlord, yet it's almost like he is sleepwalking. Just acting the part he believes he should play. Pulled back by echoes of his wife asking him “are you talking care of our daughters?” The show in part seems to be about people trapped within social roles, or within their own trauma, and how that makes them take actions without really understanding the real harm caused by their decisions. Daemon seems like he his both halfheartedly trying to make himself king, while also being confused and conflicted about what he has done and is doing now.

I really enjoyed this episode. The part that made me laugh the loudest was when Alicent said to Cole about Aemond “you know what he is, what he has SOMEHOW become.” Yeah SOMEHOW, just sort of happened that he became a bad guy, nothing to do with you Alicent :P

The short seasons really hurt the show. This episode really should have been 2 episode, first the aftermath of RR, and second a Riverlands episode with the Blackwood Bracken raids shown. The short Harrenhal scene with the riverlords was good, but would have been sold better if the horror of the raids was shown. Its weird how MAX isnt embracing this fully, greed ruins art sadly.

Maybe im crazy but the vibe i got from daemon and the blackwood talking about "there are other ways to get what we want". Something about the vibe i thought they were talking about a seduction of some kind and i was so confused😂

The actor who plays Alicent ate and left no crumbs this week. Sean is right here.

Helaena calling out Aemond was so badass. I don't know if he fully regretted it, but he was severely spooked that Helaena saw through him.

Alicent has no idea how easy she had with aegon.

Rhaenyra in the book was not a greater force for action like you say, I think by some (most?) accounts she was absent from councils in grief for this part of the story

I like that you mention Blood and Cheese would have had no chance even if they found Aemond. And when watching the episode, I got the impression that Blood, Cheese and Daemon were all aware of this, and they all read that off each other too. And THAT is when Cheese said "What if we can't find him?" As soon as Cheese asked that, I got the impression that Cheese had no intention of looking for Aemond. Jaeherys was always the real target. At least for Cheese and Daemon didn't care either way.

The vibes I got from Daemon is that his feelings about going to claim the throne for himself are coming from the dreams and being at Harrenhall altogether. At first, he didn't want to eat what they were offering him, then he just drinks a tea from a random lady he just met. He dreams that he's fucked his mom (soooo gross, BUT it's actually said in the World book that Valerians DID do that, which somehow makes it worse for me) and she tells him he was born to wear a crown. So, now, he's saying he wants the crown for himself. He shpuld be gathering an army and marching to war, but he can't seem to leave Harrenhall. Like it has him in its grasp. Aso for why he'd get those dreams, it's very possible that Alys is controlling those dreams. But it's also possible she's just witnessing them, or just making it so that he's extra susceptible to the mind-poisoning affects of the place. Or, maybe she's trying to call on memories, feelings, and figures in his life that she feels would give him good council. But it's either backfiring on Daemon, or he's trying REALLy hard to fight against the affects. Personally, if I was getting the impression someone was fucking with my mind and I didn't have my faculties about myself enough to figure out the details or how to stop it, I'd just do the opposite of what the vibes are telling me to do. Overall, I just think that what Daemon is doing right now it's fully DAEMON. I wonder what he will be like when he finally fully breaks free of the place. And how Aemon will respond to it. Also, I gotta say, Rhaenyra wasn't ever that good at politics. If she were, she wouldn't have allowed a Blackwood to kill a Braken right in front of her or insulted people while trying to find a husband. If she were, she would have tried harder to get Laenor to give her children, or at least picked one of his cousins to fuck so they came out looking Velaryon. She would have fought to be the one who stays at Kingslanding to help her father rule instead of letting Alicent gain so much power. She learned how to be a ruler from her father, and he was a bad example. That's who she's trying to emulate now. Both Greens and Blacks are bad rulers. The Greens are grasping and willing to go to war to steal a throne. But the Blacks feel entitled to the throne and just expect it to come without making the effort to play politics. To marry into different houses, to visit every castle in a progression and make friends of all these Lords they wanted to make their allies. That's a major way that Aegon and Jaehaerys and Alysanne made friends and showed their power to the world. And it's how Ned gained the loyalty and love his people and lords, according to Jon. But Rhaenyra just assumed that lords like the Barathoens would just join when she asked them to. Much like Lord Barathoen said when Luke came to get him to join with their side. She had years to make friends with Alicent, too. She clearly failed. They are good at being dragonriders, but not that good at being politicians. How would she know she's supposed to butter up the Lords on her council? Her father never did that and showed her how to do that. Who WOULD do that? Otto. And she's not about to go immitating Otto. It's why I loved Alyn Oakenfist the most in the books. He didn't have a dragon, and learned to use politics as his weapon. He was still new to it, but he was out there buttering people up. Convicing people of how to do things with politics, instead of the threat of dragons. Because that's what it is. Daemon practically screamed it in this episode with his initial failure with the Brakens. He only threatened - and did so with the Blackwoods next to him. What he should have done is come alone or with friendlier faces. Used sweet words like Jaehaerys did with (whichever first name) Baratheon. He spoke kindly, then showed his dragon when asked if he wanted hostages. Walk softly and carrying a big stick. Daemon? He did like Rhaena did. He threatened to hit them with the stick, like Rhaena screamed in people's faces that she would burn their cities to the ground. Daemon was the same in the first episode of season one. He cut off hands and dicks and heads, instead of any number of things that would have been more effective governing. I agree - the writing is off. But it's about how well they are pulling things off. But them being bad politicians? I think that was supposed to be clear from the very beginning. Maybe they made the characters too likeable, too relatable, that at times it was hard to see the mistakes for what they were. I agree - consistancy in writing would REALLY help them sell what they are trying to sell 😑🙄

I am not sure where they are going with the Daemon dreams, at first I thought it was going to help him come to terms with his internal conflicts, but it seemed to take a turn toward reinforcing the worst parts of his character in this one.

I wish I had participated in the Livestream bc I was cheering & championing MANY of the points you made about the writing!! Ever since "Septa Rhaenyra" episode, I have to take my time: rewatch the episode, contextualize it based on previous episodes or S1, watch the BTS stuff, read articles/interviews from cast/writers/showrunners, even GRRMs NotABlog, etc just to form my thoughts bc I genuinely don't know what this show is going for anymore 😅 I will be blunt (as always lol) I DON'T have faith in the writing team. I like the show overall, but I have to view it generically & divorce it from any kind of F&B Canon bc otherwise I just get annoyed at all the ways this could be better. I feel strongly that being critical is essential for media. It can't just be "consume product." If the showrunners &/or writers make wild, incoherent leaps or inconsistencies, it needs to be called out. We can love & enjoy a piece of media/entertainment AND STILL have valid criticisms. I personally LOVE Daemon's character in the book (& somewhat in the show, this season is making it difficult) & Im always down to have civil discussions w/ppl who DON'T like him/just view him as a villain. Not to change their minds or anything, but just have more nuance. & I appreciate that even tho you (David) dont like Daemon's character, you can still see the pettiness of his characters' writing. Bc I do agree, who they showed Daemon as in S1 is wayyy closer to what he is -- minus that moment of him personally killing Rhea Royce; absolutely underhanded & not needed, IMO. I was wary of S2 bc there was alot of chatter about "deconstructing" Daemon's character; "putting him in his place" & Im sorry, considering how outright some of the writers have been about disliking/hating Daemon & all he represents, I dont trust these same ppl to write something interesting, compelling or even consistent... & that got proven correct, esp in this episode w/him sexing his mother...WTF? & WHY? What does that even tell us about his internal psyche? What does it have to do w/ anything?? To me, it was just meant to degrade his character further 🙄 & I'll probably need a whole new comment for Rhaenyra & her character writing 😤 but I'll just leave it to: • Writers are clearly angling: Women = good, men = bad. They dont want to sully any of the female (main) characters. & you're right, it's obtuse & low-hanging fruit & it's getting to be BORING story-wise. • Rhaenyra, specifically, as Ive said before, theyre handling w/kid gloves bc they dont want Dany 2.0 on their hands. But it is diluting her character down, defanging her & she is SO MUCH MORE dynamic than that! Ive been advocating for a stronger, more vicious (not necessarily violent) Rhaenyra. Young Rhaenyra had sass, had backbone! As you point out, book Rhae fed Vaemond to Syrax. Where is THAT Rhaenyra?! & it's such a shame bc Emma is absolutely capable of giving us that character. Lastly, not Rhaenyra related, but yeah, what a MISSED OPPORTUNITY with that random expo dump line of Rhaena almost dying trying to claim a dragon (I think she might've tried for Seasmoke). They drop that one line, which is way more interesting story-wise & for character development, couldn't be bothered to show that... But spend a whole segment on Daemon munching on his mother "vision" 🙃 get out of here show.

The loyalty of cheese's dog continues to break my heart.

So bad what they did with Daemon, when last episode I felt they were really trying to show the true man behind that angry, mean personality. Last episode they showed us what he was jealous about was that Viserys trusted/cared for/loved Rhaenyra more than him, it wasn't just about the throne, but now apparently it was for the throne after all. They almost make Daemon and Aemond the same character in some aspects........

Jace and Baela grew up together in part and knew each other from a very young age. Targ incest is normalized, but only in about half of the cases have we seen the unions be ones of passion, not duty. Jace and Baela may be fond of each other as friends and kin, but their partnership may not be a wholly romantic one yet, if at all. Might explain the fondness but lack of bedroom activities or kissing.

Cant believe im saying this but i kind of miss Otto😬

Daemon was like 3 years old when she died.

2:42:06 I push back on that. Jaime's character ISN'T about "redemption" -- it's about RECONTEXTUALIZATION. Jaime wouldn't change a thing he's done in the past, he'd do it all over again. However, he HAS grown more of a moral compass & has more consciousness via interactions with Catelyn, Brienne & also learning to truly see ppl for who they are (Cersei, being the big one). I get what you were going for, but it's just not the same between Jaime & Daemon & whatever the writers seem to be doing in HOTD.

To be fair most people are resistant to and want to fight against normal therapy. I'm not surprised Daemon would "regress" before getting better. I hope he's improve going forward to the finale.

I'm very much enjoying the show, but there are some things to say. George's latest blog posts held a quote which with fresh light, can only be directed at the shows writers. "Ignore canon, and the world you've created comes apart like tissue paper." Some changes have been irksome, but less egregious; Aemond attacking Aegon, Aegon being stripped of his armour etc, but it does seem like the consistency of the world is worsening. Episode 1x9 was such a misfire with the Green Council, Rhaenys in the Dragonpit, that it's still haunting the rest of the story. It absolutely ruined Rhaenys' characterisation, and this quote from Condal about Meleys being a dragon 'beloved by the common people' really puts the cherry on top.

The wife of a king IS known as the Queen Consort, officially. A consort signifies husband or wife of a monarch, like Camilla is married to King Charles, so she is the Queen Consort. Once she is crowned in the coronation ceremony, they usually drop the word "consort" and just refer to the wife of a king as "the queen" because it's understood that the king always outranks the queen. Prince Phillip never became King Phillip of England for exactly this reason. Elizabeth was the heir, so when she became Queen Elizabeth II, he became the prince consort, which is the typical title for the husband of a reigning queen. Since neither Phillip nor Elizabeth cared for the word "consort" because it was old-fashioned, they dropped it in favor of just styling him, Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh. Some monarchies _do_ use the title of "king consort" for the role. Queen Victoria wanted to make her husband Albert "king consort" but the British government refused to introduce a bill allowing ii since Albert was a foreigner. So, Daemon's ACTUAL title should be prince consort, as indicated by the way Ser Symon addressed him when he first came to Harrenhal, with the word "consort" added to show he's moved up from just being a prince of the realm. When he demanded to be called "Your Grace" which is reserved for the reigning monarch, Ser Symon began calling him the "king consort" to indicate that he _isn't_ the reigning monarch, but rather that he is married to the monarch. Daemon's insistence on dropping "consort" from his title is his way of declaring that he outranks his wife.

If Alicent ever asks how her sons ended up the way they are, it's going to be comparable to Skyrim guards going "I'm going to find whoever did this" when you the player are standing over the body with a bloody weapon in your hands lol.

Fun fact the name Rankin as in mine and Gale Rankin, Alys Rivers actor in HoD means kin of Randolf it's an ancient Scottish name dating back to 1 AD to auld Dougal of Scone and said to be as Scottish as Scottish can be. They were also the hereditary pipers to the McClean Clan for over 500 years.

I agree that Rhaenyra's character depicted here is a bit hard to get into at times.. I was thinking it just this episode. It's a little bothersome. It's almost like the writers aren't in agreement about her.

viserys didn't have good temperance for rule, every time a dutiful conversation about the weeds of rule arose he grew ire and said "can't you see I'm at my daughter's wedding/hunt/family dinner/etc. leave me alone". He didn't read the job description, those events are where politics are done.

The theme of this episode was mothers, from relationships with mothers to the impact of war on mothers. It ran through nearly every scene.

I needed that "they're fucking up" Daemon-rant at the end. Thanks so much 🙏Absolutely right what you are all saying. And I have lost hope that they will mend it. Would need excellent writing skills now to redeem him. And more episodes. The roller coaster metaphor nails it. It is sad that the two characters I was rooting for the most in season one are kinda gone now and that the writers don't show why.

Regarding Daemon not knowing what his mom looks like, has anyone else noticed that portraits are not a thing in GRRM's world?

What a great ep felt like old thrones, the houses the production the pacing, yea it was slower but you can feel the build up at least I did

Rhaenyra is so boring this season, 0 fire 0 anger over the death of her son even though that’s literally the cliff-hanger they left us on at the end of season 1. The whole show so far seems to be the men going to war and the women trying to prevent it. It’s just lazy writing at this point.

Meleys’s head being paraded through Kings Landing did NOT have the reaction Krispy Kream Cole expected 😂

I really hate that I can't catch and react to this show on a Sunday evening live in the UK (for time reasons), but re-watching this livestream after the episode on Monday is a real boon.

2:35:50 100% the same for me as well dude! I am so glad that I am not the only one going through this.

Daemon's mommy dreams were interesting

What Aemond _somehow_ became, Alicent?

7:20 Matt Smith probably reacted similar to reading that scene as Daemon reacted to that letter from his brother right before he killed the Crabfeeder.

Very good take Dave. I appreciate the take on Aemond should be Daemon’s apprentice. They should be sticking together and teaching each other.

I think they can’t win when it comes to pacing. A huge section complain about how it’s too slow and isn’t just major plot points, and the other is people who want to see more and that causes the show to be slower.

It's so funny how Daemon thinks he'd be a great King but every decision he takes is so bad for the blacks. Like he has spent his life doing whatever and being protected by Viserys. Even Jaehaerys, Rhaenyra took the blame for that, it hurt Her not him directly. Now he's having to grapple with how burning bridges and being a tyrant doesn't work on the long run. Now that Viserys is not smoothing over his crazy stunts it's his responsibility.

Sean was fantastic. Loved having him, great addition

Thanks for the great content! I think I know what's in the tea Alys is giving Daemon: it's bad script leaf.

i love u David so refreshing hearing you talk all of u on the panel

Regarding the "Alyssa" dream - I was reminded of the post-sex scene with Mysaria in S01E01. Mysaria soothed and reassured Daemon, flattered him, kissed him on the forehead. It's possible that Daemon's dream was originally something like that - mundane, ordinary wish-fulfillment and ego-flattery- and the dream woman is not a real character. The blood on his hand and "my favorite son" line would be added by Alys.

O think daemon's weird deeam was the core of his begrudgment of Viserys - the core wound if you will. He envies his brother's time with their mother. Logically, thats not much. Viz was like, 3, and daemon was like 1. But that wound probably formed in childhood when that time period was everything. And since that can't be solved, it just taints everything else that involves him and Viserys. ETA: I also am becoming more solid in my belief that harrenhall is haunting it's occupants. It explains not just the dreams, but daemons outright WEIRD behavior. Out of character. Alys may be helping - but the place is whats causing it.

the obvious symbolism for daemon is that he is a mother you know what

A really _menacing_ sponge bath, though

"so butterfly, then cormorant" shout out to Sean 😆

I was waiting for Jace to come up with the dragonseed idea and I loved it.

Nettles is so right. Daemon now thinks he is above rhynaera.

Thanks for hosting these after shows for us!

The character playing Baela was on 💯 this episode. Her lines with Corlys omg....great stuff. Her lines with Jace and Raenyra, also amazing. Have we ever seen Jace and Baela be intimate? Even a little peck? I can't remember. This whole storyline with Daemon is getting stale. I was excited to see my man go to war and I get this bs. Were the writers not expecting the audience to fall in love with Daemonits like they put him on time out and showing us this bs to dislike him. I know there's a storyline in the books. Most of us aren't feeling it on screen tho.

Shawn saying the positive was that Daemon was generous took me out 😂😂😂😂😂😂

OH LORD this team!! David, Sean and Nettles!!🔥 And House Dayne represent!!💜

On the topic of Aegon's hospital box, they were trying to keep his injuries secret - later, Hugh and his wife hear that Aemond is regent and they're like, "where's the King?" And after Cole saw Aemond try to kill Aegon, there was no way he was going to let Aemond fly Aegon back to Kings Landing.

Thank you so much for hosting these streams!

1:15:55 In the Green Small Council mtg, they mention that the smallfolk are afraid, they're fleeing & spreading talk of unrest/fear in KL. Aemond says they need to stop the word from spreading, they shouldn't be allowed to leave, lock the gates. But it's also all the things y'all noted, too.

I thought Alicent was on the verge of a panic attack in the small council. I think she truly fears Aemond. It started with his killing of Luke, and she suddenly realized that maybe Aegon wasn't her most monstrous child. Then I think seeing Aegon so hurt and weak made it easier for her to forgive him. She fears what Aemond is capable of. So does Cole, but he has decided he is too far gone, I think his words to Alicent were partially true. He fears the dragons' power and has suddenly and traumatizingly realized how insignificant words and swords are in the face of dragons. He doesn't believe anyone can stop Aemond now. Is Helaena the only one of her children she likes?

I do think we are getting some of the starwars effect with the characters, even my husband mentioned that Rhaenyra seems different from past episodes. Somehow Rhaenyra and Daemon from season one didn't return ⁉️

Ok I’m at the part where they talk about the dog. Am I the only one worried about where they’re going with him? I mean he’s a lone animal living on the streets of a city that is full of starving people. I swear we’re going to eventually have a scene showing he’s missing from whatever his usual spot is at the time, and it switch over to the community soup pot.

Alicent is terrified of Aemond.

I loved Daemon season 1 because he was the family loving dragon loving Targaryen. I could forgive the dark grey parts when most of it I understood. Now it feels like he’s doing this like teen tantrum “well if you’re going to accuse me of it, I’m going to go do it now.”

Not Nettles sending Nanny V to an old folk's home 😂😅

Eh I still liked the episode. Having read the book however I would have liked them to use their limited time for other things than what they have decided

Tony Teflon’s theory was the first thing I thought when the scene started

Totally agree with you about the writing of daemon’s and Rhaenyra’s character.

Finally here for the rewatch! But it’s never too late. So cool to see Sean on your stream, he has great quips and ideas. This was a great episode and I’m so ready to hear all your thoughts.

Thank you so much for saying the truth. Everyone is praising the show but they are not doing a great job with this

Hey David, love the channel, if you ever want to talk about the Frued/psychology behind scenes and characters I'd be happy to share my thoughts as an LMSW. Otherwise keep up the great work, love the talks and videos!

Jaece living out his step sis fantasy

I love how they're setting up Alicents descent into madness. Everything that happens is because she used the words of a bewildered dying man to bolster her ambition and because she wanted to be respected for her sacrifices. Instead shes never been less respected in her position, and it has completely destroyed her life. I feel like everytime something new happens, you can see it on her face that she 100% blames herself. The beautiful thing about the way they used the prophecy is that earlier in the season she was looking for a reason for everything to be her fault, now she knows without a doubt it is and it wasnt her 'sin' it was her stupidity. Its juicy and enjoyable to watch.

Loved the discussion on the dragon battle we saw at Rooks.