Marwyn would have to have balls of steel to peek into Bloodraven's cave because if he can see Bloodraven and Bran, they can certainly see him and that's the kind of attention I personally wouldn't want on me

Church of Starry Wisdom and Starry Sept... That couldn't be just a coincidence.

These streams remind me of when my buddy discovered lotr in highschool, and he would just sit and explain all these tiny details to me. A weird kind of nostalgia.

I like the idea of the Bloodstone Emperor being the one who ended the long night. Like it just didn’t matter how evil he was because he was the only one powerful enough to preserve the human race at the time. Lesser evil sort of thing.

Me: Wtf LML deserves at least half of the fandom! Also me: 20k is the entirety of the TRUE fandom.

If Marwen’s being name dropped before turning up, he’s going to be bringing something important to the plot IMO.

"Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?" "NYAR! LA! HO! TEP!"

i am addicted to your lore videos - as someone who is wildly obsessed with essos, i adore the empire of the golden dawn theory that you've posted about & the mythos around it. thank you for the amazing content!

I like the theory that Quaithe is Shiera Seastar, Bloodravens former lover with whom he practised the dark arts. It would add a extra motivation for Quaithe to help Dany if she's a Targ too. Also all the stars and the starry wisdom, sailors' religion => sea star. I'd love to see Bran communicate with her or see her on the astral plane. Btw great stream! I am watching these as an addition to Melisandres secrets 😊

Random (possibly tinfoil) idea: Danny was warned of a Mummer's Dragon, which I always thought was Fagon or Aegon. However, Euron has a dragon horn, and if he offers it to her under false pretense/lies about who he is, I wonder if he could be considered the Mummer's Dragon, or whichever dragon the horn helps him take control of, could be the Mummer's Dragon since it'll basically be the puppet of whoever owns the horn. I'm enjoying catching up on all of these and the different ideas they bring up. Wonderful stream!! Thank you for making this.

George R. R. Martin is The King of symbolism. Hello LML, I just found out your channel and I am already freaking addicted to it. Your theories just makes total sense. It is mind blowing. P.S.: I'm from Brazil so forgive my English.

1:08:30 Speaking of symbolic fruit, in A Storm of Swords, after abducting Sansa, Littlefinger offers her a pomegranite, the same fruit that bound Persephone to Hades.

For a few moments after Bran's Coma Dream, he can feel the pain where he'd been pecked in his "third eye" by the crow, same as Dany feeling the tingling where Quaith touched her..

Euron being a Church of Starry Wisdom disciple is really interesting, clearly even as a young man his mind had already diverged from his culture into a very dark direction, what with the fratricide and rape. The fact that the Iron Islands are essentially and entire region of ports and sailors would seem to make it a natural site for a Starry Church parish, but the Ironborn are so very hostile to outside culture and religion, I can't see the Starry Church being able to operate openly. Furthermore, Lordsport would be the natural location, but Theon doesn't mention it when he surveys the place upon his return.

“Stoner with add” - relatable

I am currently recovering from spine surgery and these videos are the main thing getting me through my unending boredom thank you LML!

Could "The Shining Trapezohedron" ( Or.. "The Bloodstone" ) be lodged in Euron's eye socket? Hiding underneath his eyepatch.. "A black eye shining with malice" -According to Theon Greyjoy ...Interesting...

Excellent as always LmL , always down for GEotD , CoSW , Bloodstone Emperor discussion. Certainly an interesting element of the narrative's mythos , legend , lore and mystery. Look forward to your GeotD Part 2 dealing with more of the connections and influence of the EotD with ancient Westeros. As for the CoSW definitely seems Euron encountered and likely was indoctrinated by the CoSW on his travels as he is striving to match or even surpass the BE 's atrocities. The CoSW and likely Quiathe (who seems associated with them) definitely would appear to be a great source of information regarding mysteries , arcana and essential huge questions of Planetos regarding the Long Night , origins of dragons and beyond given they have persisted over so many millennia and possible directly involved in some of those ancient legends / events. Marwyn and Quaithe who both have either traveled through or directly associated with Asshai in Q 's case definitely seem to be the twin pillars that will push Dany towards putting her attention to dealing with the true imminent threat of the Others. As for as Quaithe in particular she is certainly an intriguing character who is the subject to a lot of speculation and debate. Elissa Farman seems to be the candidate of the moment by many in the fandom being she was supposedly spotted in Asshai by the Sea Snake but to me that is sort of all there is to go by , the Asshai connection is something to look out for and i am not ruling it out but i think Shiera Seastar is a much stronger candidate to be Quaithe. Looking at SS , she dabbled in sorcery , even rumored to use magic / rituals (like bathing in blood to preserve her youth) and such can be construed to possibly extend her life via magic and still be alive , also they both share star imagery the star-light mask and whispers of stars imagery with Quaithe (just to name a couple) analogous to her Seastar / Star of the Sea alias and star imagery around Shiera. Also SS was / is the blood of the dragon , Quaithe is pushing Dany to embrace her dragon blood / roots heritage which seems to match up nicely between SS & Q . Also i think it would be fitting given their past if SS and Bloodraven endured similar paths and roles ; with unnaturally long lives tied to magic , both associated with magical factions BR with the old gods / Weirwoods and if true Shiera with shadow magic / CoSW , both were associated with magic in their younger days as well , both have blood of the dragon and would be fitting if Bloodraven has his champion Bran to deal with the Others and SS has hers with Dany. I think SS is the strongest candidate to be Quaithe although I am not 100% sold and open to other possibilities.

Happy April 20th, and thanks for the starry wisdom, man.

LmL , Congrats on 20k plus subs , very fitting to celebrate that on 4/20 as well. I have always said you deserve many more subscribers , so it is great to see the subs , live and total views and interaction during and after streams / vids massively on the up of late. You are one of the best ASoIaF content creators out there , long the king of myth and symbolism and not only super knowledgeable with extremely interesting analysis , perspective and insights but you deliver it in a fun , entertaining and often humorous way which is very refreshing and unique. Onwards and upwards , all the best with continued growth and success.

Can't stop thinking about everything from yesterday's live stream ❤️ you always put so much thought and research into all you discussions of ASOIAF and especially love seeing you go live and getting to ask you things directly, it's awesome! Thanks for helping everyone get excited about the books again, and love that you're partnering with guys like Quinn 🖤 you introduced me to his stuff and I'm loving all of it and the stuff you two have done together is awesome! Keep up the content, community, and excitement 😆

Smokey Wisdom :)

Congratulations hitting 20K lml ... luvin your work here in the UK 🇬🇧

Happy 420 great stream love me sum starry wisdom

Since this live stream I've been thinking... do you think there's a link between the Starry Sept in Oldtown and the Cult of Starry Wisdom? The Starry Sept has black marble walls, it's founded by the Hightowers who are named after a hightower building built on the Black Fortress. What's interesting about the Starry Sept is that it's built close to the Honeywine, which would fit with the CoSW being a cult still active in and around ports.

1:35 ... Euron could be like a Gollum style of "Hero"...

We know that the Old gods exist through the Weirwood trees. And since the birth of Dany's Dragons magic is working like the glass candles. I want more of Quaithe 2 help Dany slay the lies. DRACARYS!

Love your stuff man, so nice to see you. Stay safe like foreal (got the smoke on me always when I watch your shit, so u know I enjoy your energy ) Much love dude, from Bulgaria

As some of you already talked about Melisandre, and just my joking "pants related" question was answered: afaik the most important spiritual characters we have are Quaithe and Melisandre. Melisandre is with Selyse at the wall as we left. She may end up with Jon revived, just like in the show. And Quaithe is only with Dany in her dreams, so her position is unknown. But she may end up with her. So will we see them clash and lead their protagonists in different directions, or will they work together? One could also think a lot about their different interpretations of what they see in the flames. Let's discuss!

Wow! I missed the live stream, but by coincidence as the video loaded I myself had a proper chestful of smoke and LmL and I exhaled together... sort of. Cheers and happy day, LmL!

Still don't understand how you only have 20K subscribers? Congratulations by the way 🎊🎉 Been following you for years now. Love and appreciate your work. Lots of love all the way from Germany. Stay safe and healthy ❤️

🫶✨️born & raised here in chicago✨️🌠 1:36:55 now I need to find that video!!🔥🔥 GRRM & MYTHOLOGY🧿 chefs kiss🧨

For some reason when you were describing the black candles , one green three black . The colors coupled with glass candles not having working in over hundred years. It made me think on if there is any correlation between The Blacks and The Greens the two factions during The Dance of the Dragons . Which makes me think the color is like the channel of communication or frequency the user is on. Like all green candle CB radios are running on channel 9 blacks are running on channel two hopefully that makes sense as to what I'm trying to say. What do you think coincidence that the candles are black and green and the dance factions were call blacks and greens supposedly because of outfits they wore at a tourney. I could see if Rhaynera always wore green and it's her personal color. No it's because of an outfit at a tourney. Love your videos thanks for continuing to always put out great content that gets my mind racing through awesome doorways of thought

Interesting thought that Melisandres visions are incomplete because fire flickers. I wonder what would happen if she looked in a glass candle 🤔🤔 would it even work, since it seems that you need to direct them, although how did Marwin know to look for Sam?? Maybe you can just look for a specific "topic", and it shows you all things that are connected to it.

Love your content LmL!! Keep up the amazing work!

Its not 420 today but I’m still hitting a dab off lightbringer as we speak. You’re officially my favorite KZfaqr as of now my man. Forever a fan! You’re the best. For the nights are dark, and full of corona!!!

32:00 You might even find Marwyn living in a VAN down by the RIVER!

7:52 reminds me of the blue screen scene from Wayne's World. " Or imagine being able to be magically whisked away to Delaware... hi... I'm in Delaware."

RE: Varys' balls... The worship of Nyarlathotep practiced by Lovecraft's COSW requires "horrible sacrifice." An argument can be made that somebody's balls would qualify as such a "horrible sacrifice." Additionally, the Trapezohedron is said to be a way to "glimpse the mind of Yog-Sothoth." Yog-Sothoth-referred to as "the key and guardian of the gate" and of whom it is said "Yog Sothoth knows the gate, Yog Sothoth is the gate"- is recognized by occultists in our world as a fictional metaphor for the liminal Goddess Babalon (Babylon, or Bab-Ili meaning "gate of the Gods") who in turn is supposed to be an avatar of several dark goddesses from various locales across the planet. It should be said that it was not uncommon for followers of these goddesses (Astarte, Ashera, Cybele, etc.) to sacrifice their genitalia to these goddesses. Varys' balls could easily have been a sacrifice to whatever "Dark God" JRRM has in mind.

Stars seem like a good avatar for ice and fire, from our perspective with modern science at least being that they're incredibly hot infernos of fusion and simultaneously dwell in a frozen void. Not that the any body would know that about stars with their knowledge, but stars are very much part ice and fire.

Recently found your channel on my suggestions. I’m sad I’ve missed out on these amazing streams omg

Great stuff! Btw about weed in Westeros, Dunk has a hempen rope as a swordbelt at first, so the plant must exist there

Hail Sithis!

dude you singlehandedly revived my love for ASOIAF, just wanted to say that, i may come off as some weird fanboy now for commenting on so many videos though lol

Love you D!!

LmL I think you stumbled on something at the end...with the quaite touching dany I know there is no NK figure in the book but I instantly drew a parallel with bran being grabbed and it leaving a mark and with this instance of it still tingling where she touched dany

I am so sorry that I missed you lived but, was messy around with Tom Fuller-er lol 😂

LML: Nyarlathotep is a kind of elder god figure Raiden: *wants to know your location*

The best ASOIAF channel To snort a bong rip to

Loved the WoW predictions series!! Are there any more of those in the works?

Even if you weren't the best ASOIAF KZfaqr, I'd still love you for normalizing cannabis use. If someone can treat their issues and still be such an incredible expert, what's the debate? Thanks a lot, dude. ✌️

I always thought Stygia, with it's Heart of Darkness was the throne city of the Great Empire of the Dawn. Think of Albany, New York being the capitol of New York state, but NYC is the largest and most influential city. If the Bloodstone is in Stygia and it holds the Great Other, that could be why even Shadowbinders do not enter the city.

LML and Quinn are the cutest dorky Bromance. I'm so jealous.

"Lovecraftian things running everything" It's more like a timeshare 🤪

Enjoying the content!

Shit son, grats on the 20k, never say effort doesn't pay off, also props to Robert at In deep geek for the intro!

I couldn't watch this live (different timezones and all), but thoroughly enjoyed. A lot of food for thought to be gobbled up.

Here’s a question I have, before Dany enters Quarth, one of her blood riders comes back saying that he found a dragon’s skeleton. Even passed through it’s jaws. Does anyone know anything about this?

Have we had a truly evil character doing good things for evil reasons? I think Euron could end up being a “Stalin” like character as in he is evil everyone knows he is evil but he did help defeat Hitler lol.... I like your idea that COSW is manipulating Euron and Danny into meeting that could be the catalyst to Euron “helping” Danny defeat the others as in “no one controls me I’ll do what I want”. I think if Euron does help defeat the others he most likely won’t die by the end of the story kind of like Stalin after WW2 living for another 10 years. It just feels like something George would do to pull at our emotions and something seen in the “real” world all the time

Bro, i love it when you smoke with us! i was puffin with you on 4:20 this year and the conversation is always good deep stoner stuff. Of course you're a musician! We are the original magicians yo ;) keep up the great work LML

The magic of songs is probably Tolkien reference to the creation of Middle earth and all existence when Eru Lluvatar made music to bring creation in the universe while Morgoth created his own corrupted music to rival it

LmL keep this content coming. We partake in this complicated mythos and fandom and you propel it beautifully. Thank you very much. In a few weeks whenever I have a paycheck I'll contribute with astute questions that only you can answer. Also. Do you think the first Oily Black Stone monument in Westeros will be Moat Cailin? I believe that that is Moat Cailin's demise. Something witchy is happening there, if you ask me. It's just the beginning of the process that a geographical area undergoes before turning into the nefarious Asshai, or Yeen, or whatever poisonous city in Earthos has in store for us.

This was also taken from the book of Job. When the sons of Eloheim sang at the creation when the son earth and stars were created. These are angelic beings of different classes, cherubs, seraphims, ophanims, singing in unison at the creation. Oddly enough, a Ton of his work is taken from the Bible. Which, most writing is. Like was it Tolkien that said if you know the scriptures you can k ow the ending to every story? Some famous author made that comment.

I thought you were the guy from COLD CAVE in the thumbnail for a second.Ooh i love the Church of Starry Wisdom. I really like how Lovecraft serves as like a base, not just for GRRM but for lotsvof writers

What do you think about the theory that dragon binder actually binds humans to your will and not dragons? The logic behind it makes sense, for one how would the dragon binder horn work with dragons? Dragons form a bond with one rider at a time, and there’s never a mention of a horn being used by the Targaryen’s to control their dragons. The second thing is that during the kingsmoot it really did seem like dragon binder had an effect on the people there, and maybe that’s why they were so enthusiastic about Euron’s plans, but changed their minds later on.

59:46 this guy had a good point. It's symbolism. Bran has symbolism of being dead perhaps from the close association he has with the Others, and because of the sacrifice he will make, like Odin

Marwens got a palantir.

I cant wait to hear what happens with Marwen in TWOW!

Praise Garth

10,000 years should get your cult status lifted.

(If everyone around you tells you how to behave, you might do something truly not you just to prove you do have free will, you can be an other)

you are the best KZfaqr i know

I was thinking quaithe of the shadow could mean she is in the high tower. Because the high tower of old town is known to create a huge shadow that people can tell time by.also what are high towers also used for? Observatories to watch the skies and chart the stars.

The Weirwood net allows you to see the past. I wonder if glass candles do?

It’s crazy because on the ice and fire wiki there’s almost nothing that covers the church, except for some background history and a brief mention in 1 Arya chapter in Dance

Sorry I missed this live! Congrats on your milestone, LML! Love all the Tom foolery as always

I really wanted one of those green screen backgrounds to be like Oldham town centre on a Friday night, or Carlisle or something like that :D

I also wonder what Quaithe is up to most of the time? She has not spoken to Dany very often. Why limit her influence?

I'm beginning to wonder if Bran is really Bran but the reincarnation of the Bloodstone Emperor or some monstrous godlike/demonlike being from the past?! The fact that he will probably end up King in the end is potentially ominous. Who is he really?! His powers and his place in the story seem to indicate he's a lot more than the second son of poor Ned Stark.

It’s pronounced “Knee-Are-Letho-tep”

Always excited to hear what you have to say!

Congrats on the 20k 🕯📚📖🌠🌋💖

Possible connections between CSW and the Summerhall Fire? Agree that the Magic Sights being all connected, similar to the palantirs from “LOTR”.

I believe Nyarlethotep's name was human-given. Or he at least chose a human name. Because "hotel" was a common way to end Egyptian names and Lovecraft did write him to be Egyptian pharaoh at some point, if I'm not mistaken.

i know im two years late but i want that hoodie so bad

Maybe Xaro Xhoan Doxus is just a very tolerant guy and has buildings to accomodate members of every faith of the earth.

Do you think Mirri Max Dur was a cultist too, through Marwyn?

You’re the man LML

How did I get here?! What’s this crazy shit man?!!!!!

Congratulations! 20k

Loved that intro!

Is it possible that description black oily stone vs something like black marble and other similar building materials could just be based on lack of knowledge/information?

Why there isn't more servants of the red god in Westeros. "Yes. Hello, Temple Central. This is Thoros." "Who?" "Thoros of Myr. Deliverer of our one true lord's fiery message to the ingrates of Westeros." "Oh. Yes. How is the conversion of the stag king coming?" "Well. It isn't happening. He was gutted by a pig. Oh, the irony." "Oh. Then how is the conversion of the new king coming?" "Which king?" "The one on the iron throne?" "Well, that little bastard is already burning bitches alive." "What did you say? Civil rights Ser Thoros" "Uhm, yes. The whee little fucker is making offerings to the Red God already. Yes." "Good, soon all of Westeros shall be followers of the one true lord." "Oh yes, he doesn't require much work at all, and hey. The red shadow binding lady with the Iron Stag. She's really doing the good work. Sure did fulfill my prayers of coppers for summer ale yesterday." "Never heard of her. What did you say her name was again?" "Missande. No that's not it. Malyria, oh that's isn't it either. Mel Gibson. No. No. Melisandre." "Sorry, the last Melisandre who worked the pilgrimage left a few hundred years back heading East." "Oh, well. She's a wickedly good sprite of a woman. She must have got to the west from east." "So no assistance needed?" "Nope, I got this all under control."

idk about GOT Universe but yes, the candle color affects magick

being a dragon and having power to taking her dragon nature and truly live it. She fails at reging she fails at trying to be 'good' in her mind, freeing the slaves brings them instability and death. Until now she ever really truly wins is through fire. If we see anything like the show, she will experience the victory through fire again in vaes dothrak. It is possible that she on one hand takes this as a sign that she has to conquer and she can not be a real leader or that she flees from this realization, goes to westeros tries to be a 'good Queen' there again, then she realizes that even the burning, even the conquering is just a plan of someone else ( quaithe and others who try to put her on the 'right path') and she is done being someone to be Controlled. A dragon is no slave. This could be a reason for her to burn everything. The realization that all her suffering was directed by someone At something (burning the others) and so all the 'help' she gets to fulfill her destiny would be the very reason why she does not do it. Prophesy is a sword without a handle. If you try to make it work it will bite you. We see this with Melisandre... i do not hope this is Danys path, but I do respect GRRM enough that I think he COULD do that. There are the signs. All the mythological signs, all the pointers you talk about might be true. But it is possible, that putting all this pressure on her drives her to do something she never would have done without this pressure: fire and blood.

I love your stuff, dude. Wish I could've watched this yesterday. Can't wait for more "WoW Predictions". I need my fix! Kinda unrelated: Do you enjoy video games? Listening to you usually makes me wanna play "Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem" again. ∞CDXX∞

I love your and quins channel, but I really love the dual shows!

Are you the Dark Brotherhood recruiter from Oblivion?

@LML do you feel Melisandre went to the Temple of R'hallor of her own free will, or is possible she was sent to investigate as to see if this new religion is a threat or to ensure it's success, and she had a vision while there that caused her to go rogue from her Asshaian employers? I just wonder how she earned her freedom and made it to Asshai. It doesn't seem like they'd want one of their own wondering the world. We don't meet any others from Asshai that I recall. I don't remember if ADoD covered it in her little chapter.

2 years later but... awesome intro ☁