BYD ATTO 3 EV DRIVE FROM MELBOURNE TO SYDNEY UNDER 12 HOURS | Jan 2023
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Күн бұрынPart 2: The Return Journey driving BYD Atto 3 electric car from Melbourne to Sydney under twelve hours in one day demonstrating the use of Australia's DC EV fast charging network | January 2023 by Tesla Tom | Ludicrous Feed
BYD ATTO 3 EV DRIVE FROM MELBOURNE TO SYDNEY UNDER 12 HOURS | Jan 2023
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00:00 Introduction
00:37 Euroa Chargefox Charging Station
02:27 Barnawarth North Chargefox Charging Station
04:27 Tarcutta Evie Charging Station
07:33 Goulburn Chargefox Charging Station
09:37 Arrival into Sydney
10:21 Trip Summary
13:23 Trip Statistics
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@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
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@TheWannabeGeek Жыл бұрын
Loving your road trip videos Tom. My wife and I just completed a 6500km trip Bundy to Hobart and back again. We tried to maximise using the dedicated NRMA charge stations. They were free. Cost me ONLY $3.02 from Geelong back to Bundaberg QLD. Approx 3000km 😁
@moestrei Жыл бұрын
What EV were you using, if you don't mind?
@TheWannabeGeek Жыл бұрын
@@moestrei I have a Tesla Model 3 LR. I tried to travel about 250km before charging each time.
@moestrei Жыл бұрын
@@TheWannabeGeek Thanks, yes I do the same in older Model S. To me EVs with around 450km WLPT will be always sufficient.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a great trip! And cost effective too 😁👍
@SS-yw7vo Жыл бұрын
@@moestrei agree. This carry on about range is nonsense
@ajm854 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all the detail you've gone into and the time it takes you Cheers
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Pleasure! Hopefully current and potential EV owners find it helpful 👍
@NeilBoltonRSPL Жыл бұрын
Great work again! You’re doing fabulous work. 😎👍
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Neil!
@davidbon4707 Жыл бұрын
Such an interesting and professional video. Thanks for all your effort in putting it together.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@mradford10 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the educational aspect of your videos.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Pleasure!
@simonsavy7521 Жыл бұрын
Great content on your videos and great for the newbie’s to EV in learning from your experiences in your videos 👍
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@jarodl Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the informative video!
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Pleasure!
@zoranvuko Жыл бұрын
Yay, another challenge. Always love a bit of ludicrous feed on a Tuesday! I wish there were more Ultra Rapid and Tesla Superchargers in WA. The WA Electric Highway will help a lot. I absolutely love the look of the BYD and I wouldn't mind one. I just wish the charging speed was a little quicker. They're selling pretty well in Australia though.
@moestrei Жыл бұрын
I think WA will get a network with Kempower brand chargers...the very best available.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Kempower will be a welcome sight in Australia
@roberthoskin8463 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for such an informative video - all it's done is whet my appetite for my Atto3 which is due 'Feb/Mar'. I have already planned to travel Melbourne to Sydney in May (Car should have arrived by then!!) and so your trip has given me a lot of useful info. Thanks again.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@kinkeungkam2658 Жыл бұрын
Very informative
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
🙏😃
@JamesZ888 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, these ev road trips are super helpful, looking forward to owning an ev and do road trips like this, would love to c more road trips with the atto 3 whilst u still have it on loan
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@jimdonaldson64 Жыл бұрын
A good in depth review tom.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@TassieEV Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tom for all your Atto 3 videos. Love to have a summary video with your opinion along with say your top 5 likes/dislikes now you've had it for the period you had. I think what they need is for road tripping more chargers but not all need to be 350kW units, 150kW units is perfectly adequate for the majority of EV's. Love to see you do a video more about charger etiquette, basic tips and covering the critical apps people need such as Plugshare, ABRP, Need to Charge, Charging provider Apps or RFID cards(my personal preference is RFID) and any others maybe Windy or Waze.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ve enjoyed this car for sure. I’ll be releasing a summary/comparison vs Tesla Model 3/Y shortly so stay tuned. I’ve also done a charging guide in Australia vid: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y6qfftx4zLS0f6s.html That should cover all the apps you need
@grahammanning7039 Жыл бұрын
Great video on doing an EV road trip. I did one from Sydney to Adelaide on 5/6 Jan in a 2022 MG ZS EV, and stopped at most of the same sites you did, until we cut across to Bendigo then to Adelaide. Charger anxiety was definitely the biggest issue for us, especially in Horsham, (Chargefox) 3 out of 4 not working, Tailem Bend (Evie) none working, as a couple of examples.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
That is a huge cause of EV anxiety currently in 2023 not knowing if a charger is going to be operational 😣
@oliver_mendi Жыл бұрын
Glad that all the Gundagai and Goulburn chargefox chargers are working again.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Oh good!
@craigk1328 Жыл бұрын
Great Video. I think they could do with putting shade up for when you are charging like a petrol station has. We could do with them her in NZ as well.
@TheMelbournelad Жыл бұрын
I know right it’s weird. They have invested 10s of thousands of dollars in the charging infrastructure at a site, but can’t stump up a grand or so for a basic shelter structure to shade the units and you.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Agreed, check out some of the designs of charging stations in Europe
@TheMelbournelad Жыл бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed how good at fastned’s 🥹🤩
@SS-yw7vo Жыл бұрын
The taxpayer grants don't include shelters. It only provides for the supply and installation of the chargers. Luxuries like maintenance and a shelter eat into the "profits" they stole off taxpayers
@TheMelbournelad Жыл бұрын
@@SS-yw7vo I get that but will save in maintenance cost. Future grants depend on uptime I think now.
@matthewpettigrove3784 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the videos, been interesting watching the trips in the BYD Atto 3, curious to know if the one you're driving is the long range model?
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s the extended range 60kWh variant
@mondotv4216 Жыл бұрын
Great video Tom - keep up the good work. Did you manage to get a DC fast charge curve for the Atto 3?
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Stay tuned, coming soon
@twisted_panties 3 ай бұрын
Great info.
@LudicrousFeed 3 ай бұрын
Cheers!
@TheMelbournelad Жыл бұрын
13:15 ohhhh I see carplay me thinks
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yup!
@TheMelbournelad Жыл бұрын
I love the Euroa stop. Maccas can be hit or miss. A cheapskate trick with that stop if there for food stop and get in with low SOC, is 350kw fast charge until start getting about 80-60kws then swap over to the 50kw pair lol. Saves you a couple of bucks.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yup that’s certainly a strategy
@shane80002007 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comments at the end of the video about chargers hope one day you and everywhere can pull in with 10% or less and know they can make it to the next chargers, also does BP, shell, Ampol have plans to roll out any charges on the Melbourne to Sydney leg, maybe you could do a video of that and how that would change your trip
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yes I believe the current major players in the oil industry are ready to launch their respective network of chargers: be sure to check out some of my walk around of individual locations. Great suggestion though, I may do an overall review of their coverage 👍
@rohankilby4499 Жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, one thing I found reassuring on my recent trip was having a type 2 AC cable so I could plug into the 20kwh AC chargers whilst I waited for the fast charger to become free if the charger was in use on arrival. The QLD electric highway usually has one of these units per station as well, so at least I was getting some electrons on board whilst waiting for DC access, yup it’s slower but at least more options if you arrive and the DC faster charger has croaked it or less time wasting if fast charging occupied.😁👍
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
I agree with you, there should be redundancy made available in the form of AC chargers for the reason you specified and also if the DC chargers were faulty then at least you've got backup
@mondotv4216 Жыл бұрын
Except AC on the Atto 3 is limited to 7kW. And not quite 7 - the most I've got is about 6.5. Pretty much limited to emergency charging and not really saving you much time at a DC fast charger. If you have to wait 20 minutes you've got 2.2kWh - that's about 90sec on the DC fast charger @89kW
@rohankilby4499 Жыл бұрын
@@mondotv4216 still beats a granny charger bruz 😁👍
@vijgai3 Жыл бұрын
12 hours is not bad at all. We used to do it 10-11 with toilet or food breaks in our Prado. Didn't need fuel due to the dual tanks.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Most of us have to stop eventually after a few hours!
@MichaelSmith-px1ev Жыл бұрын
Thanks Tom another great video when the charging infrastructure is right I think a 10.5 hour trip could be possible with a EV that has enough charge speed capacity which is the same time you would find most ICE trips with shorter breaks. ABRP has my place to my brothers house in Sydney (Eastern Melbourne Suburbs to Inner Sydney Suburbs) at 10 hours total 9 hours driving and 1 hour charging with the current Tesla charging infrastructure.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yup agreed I think one could do the trip in a Tesla in 11hrs or under - might do a trip in the Y when it eventually comes
@ravingmad765 Жыл бұрын
As EVs become more mainstream I see an opportunity for top level cafes and lounges. Should be good for regional economies.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Well said. I’d be happy to pay for a premium lounge subscription on road trips
@weefinn1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, always interested to see actual range in different conditions and for key destinations. Just under the 20kWh/100km mark for Atto loaded with family & gear, averaging nearly 100kmh...comparatively what have you seen with your M3 or any other Tesla's around energy consumption under same conditions? Cheers
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Check out my road trip spreadsheet - link in video description - previous trip to the Gold Coast, the Model 3 was sitting around 160Wh/km
@jimgraham6722 Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much. There is in principle no reason why these chargers should not be consistently highly reliable. Poor engineering is a problem.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
We the end user should be afforded more transparency when it comes to publicly funded EV chargers
@DonnyDonnMendoza Жыл бұрын
Definitely nice to know that this is realistically feasible ; charger reliability not withstanding. Accessibility and more chargers of all kinds will be the way forward.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
That’s the attitude! Things will get better
@fergusmccowan617 Жыл бұрын
Hi. We have an Attorney 3 on order. Your videos are so useful, as we do the Melbourne run often, but the range you achieved was disappointing, seemed nowhere near the promised range. We bought the extended range.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Congrats! EVs are opposite to ICE vehicles. EV range is usually relatively better in a mixed urban setting compared to highway driving where factors such as wind direction, car velocity and road gradient can dramatically decrease its range
@adamtm82 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos Tom. Heading down to Melbourne over the Australia Day weekend with the family. Out of interest are there any of these non-Supercharger spots you would particularly recommend stopping at due to better amenities compared to the equivalent Supercharger stop?
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Tbh, most of the non-Tesla DC stops have better amenities because they’re at service stations. Only Gundagai Supercharger is close to food. The others: Goulburn, Wodonga, Euroa are not close to food and require a 5-10min walk to the local town. However on a busy day like 26/1 you may be competing with non-Tesla vehicles at the third party chargers. The SCs may of course also be busy too
@adamtm82 Жыл бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed yeah I figured as much with regards to the busy factor. Though we are staying near Albury overnight on the way down, so I guess we can always do additional stops for food/bathrooms.
@andrewward8323 Жыл бұрын
Had exactly the same problem with the same charger at Euroa 2 weeks later in my M3…….not a car issue but a charger issue
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yup makes sense
@yohinomura2966 Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, thanks for the video. It seems there were too many charging going on. Is it possible to charge the car once it reaches around 20% ?
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yes you can allow it to reach a lower SoC before charging again. Watch to the end for my explanation why I charged often during this trip
@samonnchhaytea8157 Жыл бұрын
Hope on the maps showing the charges station location love it's 👍
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
The in-built BYD nav app (which uses Google maps) shows the available nearby chargers
@ericliume Жыл бұрын
This trip seems smoother and quicker. Hopefully there would be more charging station deployed.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yes we were better prepared this time knowing the route 😃
@stuart4858 Жыл бұрын
Nice work Tom. Very informative as usual. After this , how do you rate the BYD vs Tesla M3? Love your work. Stu.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
My comparison vid vs Tesla is in its final production stages …
@moestrei Жыл бұрын
I'm not Tom but they are in different leagues, incl. price wise. But the Atto is affordable with a decent range making it long distance capable. With the current charging infrastructure a Tesla is the better choice. I have an Ioniq5 and an EV6 owner in my circles, both have been traded in now for a Model Y because they were fed up getting stranded with broken chargers.
@waynehobbs5175 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks. Bit disappointed in the 20kWh/100km consumption as Tesla and Kona are 14 to 15. The latter not even being an EV platformed car. Other disappointment is omission of a froot in the Atto3 considering its a ground-up EV.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Highway consumption tends to become less efficient for most EVs
@ydlazkov Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the to/from Melbourne videos. If you have to pick... MG ZS EV or BYD ATTO 3?
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
BYD Atto 3 represents incredible value
@sneo7470 Жыл бұрын
BYD ATTO 3 👍👏💪🇸🇬
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
😃👍
@raidene1800 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your experience video about the BYD Atto 3. I still have a question though: I see that in most of the time you already start with charging at a SoC of 40% or 50%. Why didnt you use up the battery until a lower SoC (for example 10%) and charge it to 80%? It would have been interesting to see how much time it consumes from 10% to 80%. Thanks!
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
As explained in part 1 Sydney to Melbourne, I charged at the higher end of the battery cycle due to concerns over the reliability of the DC charging network. Had I encountered a faulty charger then I at least would have had enough charge to skip it and travel to another one.
@raidene1800 Жыл бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed ah I see. I didn't watch the first part yet (KZfaq suggested me the part 2 directly) I will watch it soon
@mawhim Жыл бұрын
With ICE cars, detours to various places of interest can be done with more confidence. Where as with EV's you are more or less confined to predetermined route, to deviate from that has to be planned. Eg, a Detour to coastal area.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
The hope and dream is to have EV chargers everywhere so that you can make those detours one day
@S_Padival Жыл бұрын
The travel time is on par with my recent trip in an ICE SUV (well, a PHEV😅)
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Wow ok that’s good to know! With family?
@S_Padival Жыл бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed yes. Wife & 2 kids (no dog this time 😅)
@maxbonney321 Жыл бұрын
Tom, did I see correct? Was the efficiency 199 and 198wh/km? For our trip to Sydney soon, in my M3LR, I set in ABRP my wh/km to 150. Am I correct in doing this?
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Use the ABRP default for the vehicle you are driving. Otherwise check EV database for some real world data for differing conditions The Model 3 is a more efficient vehicle than Atto 3
@qilu2004 Жыл бұрын
looks like charging network in australia is still in infant stage. i think higher fees should be introduced to incentivize investment in this public charger business. after all, you are paying for convenience while away from home. even if it means more expensive than gas, i think it is reasonable.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
I think we’ll start to see oil companies start putting EV chargers across their network in Australia in the next 12-24m. It makes the most sense given the amenities are already there
@pangit9999 Жыл бұрын
I noticed you forget to close the charge flap, I was hoping you would see it before you drove off but I guess not! Lol
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yup! Typical Tesla owner 😂
@moestrei Жыл бұрын
Ahhhhh....we have been waiting for this one...thank you, Tom. But why not to 10% - 80% and save even more time (ok, you answered it at the end) Interesting mix of ABB Terra HP350 and Tritium RT50s at this site. Same at the next stop...you could have checked the Taycan charging at 270kW peak (and apparently degrading it's battery quickly). Surprised the car doesn't warn you when the flap stays open. Next stop the failed Tritium was displaying green status and not red. I wonder if you can still use it via app or RFID? And finally: What would be the EV speed record on the epic Sydney - Melbourne stretch (presumably in a Tesla Model 3) ?
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Any takers under my 12hours? Must have photographic evidence 😁
@davec110 Жыл бұрын
M3 definitely would of done the trip much faster and more efficient than the Atto3. Less drag, Super chargers but the thing is if you're going on a family road trip in a SUV less breaks isn't ideal. If you don't have a family and wants to get to point A-B in record time maybe just get on a plane? Jetstar flights can be very cheap and some times cheaper than driving.
@SS-yw7vo Жыл бұрын
Under 12 hours. Tom is a cannonballer now
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Haha, not with family in the car
@becbec5878 Жыл бұрын
Can you buy like a battery pack for your car kinda like you can do for a phone? That gives you idk like 10% in emergencies or something? I’m so brand new to this electric car concept I’ve not got a clue what’s available
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Watch from the 30 minute mark of my video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/a9eggdqkqa-4Yps.html where I charge a Hyundai Ioniq 5 with a portable battery which can add about 6-10km of range depending on the size of the capacity
@matthew5791 Жыл бұрын
Not many options here yet. In France there are small towable range extenders you can hire. In the USA there are small camper trailers with big batteries sized to at least maintain range or bigger versions to extend range and make up for towing. There are some larger camper trailers that even have batteries and driven wheels to help towing and charge the vehicle. The largest has a 3 kW plus solar PV system. Some are prototype some already available. Would imagine we will see light weight teardrop campers with car sized batteries over here before too long. These options all seem to require you to stop and charge the vehicle. A towable battery that connected to your vehicle and bypassed charging would certainly improve range into more isolated areas. Then again once all the petrol stations need to supplement income because of declining sales....
@PCLoadLetter Жыл бұрын
You could have almost skipped Euroa entirely. 5 minutes would have comfortably got you to Barnawartha, and if it was faulty on arrival, there’s a couple of 50kW chargers in Albury (one of which is reliable) to back it up. And you could have done a partial charge at Goulburn. Both of the above would have knocked almost an hour off the trip. And if Gundagai was reliable, you could have added enough to reach Sutton Forest and thus skipped the off-highway detour into Goulburn, saving a few more minutes again.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter. We were planning to stop in Euroa for breakfast straight from Melbourne - not sure how much longer we would’ve lasted on an empty stomach 😜 Sure I think a lone driver or perhaps two occupants could’ve done this journey in less time
@mynamesdeekay Жыл бұрын
Can you please do something similar with a Genesis GV60?
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Maybe I should have a poll to see which car to use for the next road trip?
@Darrenraitt Жыл бұрын
Just as an interest as I have never driven between Sydney and Melbourne how long does it take in an ice car ?
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
According to Google maps, along the same route it would take 9h 11min by car: 878km and that's without stopping at all and travelling at the speed limit
@Darrenraitt Жыл бұрын
Not much difference at all really, ice or EV you have to stop anyway for breaks.... 🤔
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Correct
@somerealrandomguy Жыл бұрын
Chasingcars did a comparison last year using Hyundai Tucson vs Ioniq 5 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7mcjbCa0NfaiIU.html
@BuntaBall40 Жыл бұрын
does eco mode help with long range driving
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Theoretically yes but I’ve found the aircon to not be as effective - my subjective opinion
@rolli389 Жыл бұрын
So annoying the Atto doesn't have a door alarm for the Charging cap 🤔
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Maybe a future software update?
@rodden1953 Жыл бұрын
Hi from the UK , i avoid chargers with Apps , i prefer to only use PAYG even if it does cost more .
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Hopefully we’ll have credit card tap and go soon for our chargers
@rodden1953 Жыл бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed As bad as our Government is they did pass a law that all new machines will have to have PAYG . i know it costs more but most of my chargingg is from the solar at home . im enjoying your videos from down under thanks
@coover65 Жыл бұрын
How do EV vs ICE running costs compare in the UK? An article in one of our Australian papers compared Australian running costs. Currently an average ICE car costs 20c/100km whereas an EV is about 10c/100km. When you factor in average km/year, it can take 5 years to offset the extra you pay for an EV equivalent. Each Australian state looks at EVs different. South Australia gives you three years free registration, while Victoria will charge you 2.6c/km.
@rodden1953 Жыл бұрын
@@coover65 i suppose it depends on how many miles you drive a year . i never took cost into buying an EV . like my solar panels and Powerwall , but my out goings are much less so i keep more of my money . my last ICE car was a 20 year old Nissan Sunny i paid £300 for only had new silencer and pads in the 7 years i had it , never changed the oil , but spent a lot in petrol . i only need petrol once a year for my mower , last year i paid £8 for 5 ltrs .
@coover65 Жыл бұрын
@@rodden1953 Wow! £8 for 5 ltrs is expensive. We're paying the equivalent of £1.02/litre for petrol at the moment.
@goran2009 Жыл бұрын
2min to fill up my Diesel BMW and it gave me 1020km range. EV's make more sense for around the city, but taking it Adel-Melb, it would stress me out looking at percentage all the time. :)
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
That’s why I stop looking 😂 In all seriousness use A better route planner - great app for EV trip planning
@ilkererol1986 Жыл бұрын
I hate protection cups some companies use spring loaded covers
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Yes it’s nice but possibly another thing that could break in time?
@ilkererol1986 Жыл бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed yeah maybe also they are expensive to produce
@stevenlee7195 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the food and drinks costs with the stop to charging as oppose to driving ICE cars with less frequent stops. For long distance, id just go with an ICE car, as you can see its not too much difference in terms of the costs, once you factor in the time for the charge.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Conversely with an ICE car, the savings you gain by stopping less frequently (and not buying food as often) are offset by the extra food you consume when you get to your destination earlier, no?
@PCLoadLetter Жыл бұрын
Long road trips are where EV’s really shine. Especially those with automatic driving features. But even in a BYD you have less vibration, less noise, and an overall less nauseating ride. And don’t get me started on nauseous passengers!
@ericliume Жыл бұрын
But you need to have rest stops anyway, don't you? Especially when it is time for breakfast and lunch. To be honest, I personally would rather spend money on proper cooked food than spend money on gas, then eat chips and drink soda in the car, so that I can get to the destination earlier.
@caljeff2427 Жыл бұрын
Fuel is now $1.70/L so it would be cheaper and 2 hours quicker to take a corolla cross hybrid. or have i missed something?
@NeilBoltonRSPL Жыл бұрын
Yep - the driving pleasure.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
We better hope that fuel stays at $1.70 or below then
@caljeff2427 Жыл бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed this car will really only save you money when charging at home and being used for daily commuting.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
@@caljeff2427 which would then more than offset the cost of a few road trips each year
@nomyafiftyonefifty8081 Жыл бұрын
So the money you save in fuel you spend in food while you're waiting for it to charge.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
But had I gotten back home to Sydney sooner in an ICE car, I would’ve had to get some more food to tie me over before dinner? 🤷
@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын
The BYD Atto III costs the same as The Model Y Standard Range. I try to find a reason why i should by the BYD instead of the Tesla. I can't find one.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
The Atto 3 is 30% less expensive than Model Y RWD in Australia. Video coming soon comparing them, stay tuned
@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed We have got the current price list from BYD. Prices are from October 2022. BYD Atto III Confort 45.000,-- Euros, BYD Atto III Design 46.400,-- Euros Tesla Model Y RWD 46.990,-- (white, black premium interior). 30% Difference? Maybe in Australia, but certainly not in Austria. Of course BYD may lower their prices. But 30%? I don't think so. With 30% less, the Atto III would cost less than the smallest VW ID3 and even less than the MG ZS EV.
@sokre988 Жыл бұрын
@@wolfgangpreier9160 while Tesla has better consuption per kilometer, over time it losses its range in battery degradation. While Atto can be charged at 100% all the time, and it wont lose any. On battery longevity (chemistry), Atto wins. Remember, battery is the expensive part in EV (for replacing).
@wolfgangpreier9160 Жыл бұрын
@@sokre988 I dont know what you are talking about. Battery degredation is a innert function, an unwanted feature of EVERY battery thats out there. Yes, even Redox Flow and air batteries degrade, just like any type of Li, Fe, Na based batteries. Whether from Panasonic, Tesla, BYD, CATL does not matter at all. Model 3 Standard and Model Y Standard use LFP batteries just like BYD uses in its Atto II, Han, Tang. Atto does NOT win. It has 3 problems: Efficiency is bad, charge time is bad, rust is very bad. Software needs improvement. If BYD repairs all three of them the Atto III is a worthy contender for the EV battle. In its current iteration it can only battle with MG, Aiways, GWM, Smart #1.
@tytymeta9999 Жыл бұрын
Trop chère 😱
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
How much would you have paid for an equivalent EV journey in your part of the world?
@Paradoxical124 Жыл бұрын
It’ll get expensive and heath taxing to do a maccas stop every time you need to charge 😂😂
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
Fast food is optional. Here’s a chance to exercise self control and pack some healthy treats for the family
@peterryan7340 Жыл бұрын
12 hours! That's so slow. And damn that range anxiety is real
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
What would be your ideal time for this distance?
@peterryan7340 Жыл бұрын
@@LudicrousFeed >10 hours
@locksmack Жыл бұрын
@@peterryan7340 12 hours is >10 hours! But assuming you mean less than 10 hours, even an ICE would struggle with that unless you didn’t stop for lunch etc.
@NeilBoltonRSPL Жыл бұрын
You’re not charger-constrained at all - unless you’re the sort of person whose goal is to spend as few minutes stopped as possible. I rarely wait for the car anywhere in the Supercharger network. Ten minutes at maximum.
@somerealrandomguy Жыл бұрын
If you are not going to stop for lunch Chasingcars did finish in under 10 hours using Ioniq 5 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7mcjbCa0NfaiIU.html
@pipingmad11 Жыл бұрын
I think I'd be annoyed owning a Tesla when they open their charging up to everyone. That is the point of paying a premium for a Tesla to get exclusive use of their supercharger network. You see some stories now about queues at Tesla charging just from Tesla cars.
@LudicrousFeed Жыл бұрын
As a Tesla owner and early adopter I knew that the opening of the SC network to all would be an eventuality and I bought and paid a premium for my Tesla with this in mind. Once there are proportionately enough chargers for all EVs on our roads then it won’t matter what brand is used. The same way there aren’t exclusive petrol pumps for particular brands, I’m happy for the Tesla network to be open to everyone to ensure everyone reaches their destination safely
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