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As a Turk i am okey with everything they can make whole Anatolia %101 Greek and Armenian BUT if paradox make Turkish a "levantine" culture...

"I have a History degree and a thesis about the Roman Empire." This is the best moment to ask to the right person. Ludi how frequent do you think about the Roman Empire?

I would like to request the safe return of my wallet please Ludi

Greco bros we are so back

21:00 in the west the belief wasn't that Jesus was half man half God, but fully man and fully God. That distinction is very important.

Ah finally..... Now Paradox's brilliant plan can truly begin: First, get all the turks and greco-roman simps at each other's throats over how many pops "their side" should start out with. Have them fight a civil war over the internet that will finally put the byzantine ones to shame. Then annouce two mutually exclusive DLC's just before the game comes out: one which changes the anatolian pops ridicolously in favour of the greeks, and another which does the same for the turks. Relax, kick back, and PROFIT. Their genius! It truly has no limits!

As someone lived in Armenia for some time it, it hurts to hear Cilicia being pronounced Silisia instad of Kilikia but apparently it is correct because of Koine shift.

Cant wait for th 50 dlcs this game is going to have

As a Turk I don't really care what ends up being portrayed in the game as long as it has some bases from historians. What I want to say is that we should all be happy that as a community and game developers we are at a point where we use literal history books for the basis of our arguments. This shows me how serious and respectful we all are about the game and it's accuracy.

Kurds were not majority in east anatolia until the 19th century

Thank you ludi for educating me on the name origin of Philadelphia 😂😭 I love/hate how all US place names are old world names

Anatolian Greeks largely assimilated and mixed with Turks, and today, Turkish people are essentially descendants of that blend. They are still exist today. Same people genetically.

Currently I'm living in the city of Philadelphia. It's a nice city we have plenty of archeological sites around here. Shout out to you btw Ludi your knowledge is great!

in old Turkish Töre (Cultural laws) succesion law is "State is property of Khan and his Dynasty members" Murad the first of Ottomans change this law (slightly after the stard date) "State is property of Sultan and his sons". Afterwards Mehmet the Conqueror change this law again "State is property of Sultan" last change is made by Sultan Ahmet in 1600s "Oldest and wisest shall rule" and it was basically end of competent rulers because this geniuses decided that imprisoning the heir candidates is a good idea until they suceded to the throne. They tried to prevent succesion wars but homeschooled sultans was both socially and skilfully weak.

I'm watching your video right now from my hometown, Philadelphia/Alaşehir. I was happy that you talked about my hometown in detail. According to legend, after the conquest, Yıldırım Beyazıt climbed a hill overlooking the city and looked at the city and said, "What a great city (âlâ means beatiful, very good)." Later, the city took the name Alaşehir. According to another rumor, the city was given this name because the stones used in the walls surrounding the city were black and white, thus giving the walls a distinctive appearance (Ala means color consisting of a mixture of several colors, mixed color). Again, after the conquest, Yıldırım Beyazıt had a mosque built in his name in the city, opposite the Saint John church, which is one of the first 7 churches in Asia Minor. The mosque is still in use (it has no historical appearance as it has been renovated too much over the years.) The ruins of the church are open to visitors as a small open-air museum. If you happen to be here one day, I would like to host you. I would like to show you our delicious local dishes, natural beauties and historical places.

Hopefully the underground cities get some representation

I love these videos. Makes me really hyped for EU5 and i always learn something new. Thank you Ludi!

I'm Turkish and I would LOVE to see you guys trying to restore the Roman Empire! You can try for FREEEEEEEEE! But please a Varna-like coalition. Anything else would be boring.

Re Palaiologos vs Komnenos, it's worth pointing out that the Komnenoi of Trebizond are the descendents of Andronikos I Komnenos, the usurping, mass-blinding, latin-massacring, familicidal maniac who in the space of a two-year reign managed to conclusively end the Komnenid restoration (and indeed Komnenid rule in the empire proper), create a power vacuum that would continue until the sack of Constantinople, and bring relations with the West to the nadir that led to that same sack. I'm no Palaiologos-stan, but I'm not sure they're the worst of these two evils!

Great video as always!!!

Technically most of us christians believe that Jesus Christ is fully god AND fully man not 50/50

Awesome one!

Yeah @Ludi your whole video is a monologue, man! But a nicely executed one. Good work, thank you.

LOVE you Talking about history, also well told and engaging

Ludi as a fellow hisorian i just love it when you spill the knowledge

Great video but I want to point out that Timur did not execute Bayezid, his fate is still unknown (some say he killed himself by drinking the poison from his ring). I'm not 100% sure what exactly happen but as far as I know it was not execution

06:10 As far as I know, how Yildirim Beyazid died is up to debate right now. Timurlane didn't execute Ottoman Sultan after his defeat. Beyazid was humiliated and imprisoned for 3 years in Samarkand. His death was either a suicide or poisoned by Timur's orders.

It's interesting. Citing a Greek historian as a source and presenting Turkish sources in a biased manner are positive.. Vryonis served as the director of the Alexander S. Onassis Center for Hellenic Studies. It is also known that he is very close to SPGH, Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America and Hellenic Society Prometheas. Heath w. Lowry, Elizabeth A. Zachariadou, Anhony Bryer, Gilles Veinstein, Steven Runciman these names offer a much different narrative of history. Heath w. Lowry's example is interesting because he mentions that when he arrived at his home after receiving threats, one of the FBI officers he encountered said, "If I were you, I would carry a gun." Stanford Shaw's house was bombed. His office was raided several times. Bernard Lewis was brought to the French court. Therefore, if an objective view of history is sought, I think we need to be more careful about issues ranging from bullying in the academic field to physical violence and threats. A hundred more names can be added to the names I wrote. They are also Turkish (!) Or they should forget all this and do what South Africa did and appeal to the International Court of Justice. Even though a hundred years have passed since the events, there is no application yet.The success of their lobby is enough when it comes to narrating history.

As a fellow historian probably we will never know whole story about Anatolian population %100 but documents of old can always help for most accurate description. As an Turk I would never trust Turkish documents because I know how our historians work and it's generally they take their teachers words as proof and make a decree upon it just saying. Nice video btw and I'm very hyped for eu5 and alternate scenarios we will do about Anatolia.

Quality is steadily improving. Listening to your fans, tweaking style ect. Quality video, if I could subscribe twice I would

The ones in Lebanon are the Maronites, who are Syriac christians who accepted Chalcedon, but ended up quite isolated in Lebanon in the middle of the wars between the Byzantines and the Muslims, until the crusades when the Catholics arrive. They are a Eastern Catholic church withtheir own Patriarch of Antioch, and they claim to have never broken communion with Rome during their history. I don't know if Paradox is going to make something different to represent them, that could potentially lead to more Eastern Catholic churches, since during EU% period we'll have things like the Council of Florence and Union of Brest, or if they're just going to be catholic like the ones in Europe

Can you share your thesis? Or do a video about it? I think it would be interesting.

@21:00 not 50/50, but fully human and fully divine. Otherwise, nice video.

You're the BEST!!!!

my hype for EU5 grows with every video

Without knowing fuck all about the war, I think for the sake of gameplay the start should be like the 1444 start for france/england in eu4. They're "technically" at war but requires an event to fire for it to escalate.

When Ludi begins by "Remember that I have an History degree" you know the video will be golden

Heya there Ludi! Was your thesis in support of a Master''s degree? Nice to see another higher academia brother out there in history. (Fanboy moment: love your channel)

No i agree %100 that ottomans cleaned greeks from asia minor as a Turk. But from having a family from Karamans and forcefully settled to greece (drama,soloniki) at 14-15th centry and my mothers side sent to bulgaria. Greeks and bulgarians did the same while ottomans were declining and forcefully moved turks from balkans in 19th centrury. I went to greece to visit my old village and sadly no one lives there anymore and only old abandoned buildings, because they were massacred and forcefully moved and probably same goes for greeks in anatolia.

@ludiethistoria thank you for just being great with the historical stuff. As a fellow history degree earner, it drives me nuts when people do stuff like Kaspar did.

good video

I’m actually interested in reading Lidi’s thesis.

To my understanding, in EU4 the ai struggles a bit with being at war on day 1, which is why they moved away from that over time. They might just be trying to avoid having a similar issue. If Byz and the Ottos were to start at war, though, I feel like Nikomedia should start out *occupied* by the Ottomans rather than fully owned by them.

I feel like the Turk population was higher in this period, not eu4 level but its hard to see without seeing the full demographic.

i rather if they started in peace, just so i can decide if i want to go to war or not

Thank you for the video Ludi. The idea of a Hellenized Central Anatolian population assimilating into Turkish culture easier than the coastal Greek population did was very thought provoking. Can you recommend any sources for that?

Didn't expect a bunch of history majors having an essay battle in the forum. Also, how many content creators like Ludi have a History degree?

I loved learning about the city of Philadelphia. I had no idea that's where the name came from as an American. And as far Greek culture in Anatolia there was a semi-recent trend on social media where young turks took dna tests and to their dismay found out that a good portion of them were majority Greek heritage. Especially costal areas. I also think that BYZ should start at war, its not certain they'll win or loose and could set up a sort of dynamic swing for how the area plays out.

I wonder if you can influence secondary cultures in your empire.

As someone with a degree in cartography is nice to see a fellow romanian with a degree that loves map games.

Hi Ludi, just curious, which Europa Universalis title have you started playing since? What do you think about such apparent move from more "arcade" gameplay to more realistic and simulation one?

This is the official petition to mr. Ludi to ask him to do more historical monologues like that about Philadelphia OR maybe even do a separate kind of videos talking about such interesting events! It would sinergyze with the content and the audience very nicely IMO.

Ludi can we please have regular updates about your olive tree

I am going to enjoy this game with all these beyliks

As someone who had their history thesis specifically on Ottoman identity, yes, yes this map is just fine

10:12 Everyone in Tarsus has an olive tree. Me and my family live in the center of the city, but even we have an olive tree.

Anatolia look like a very fun area to play in EU5. As a Turkish of course i will first play Ottomans thinking they give them more flavor than others but will try everything in this area.

I wonder if Ludi remember all these roman history he's telling us or he just constantly checking his own thesis to make sure, anyway I love these history you gave us Ludi

Maronites of Lebanon around that time were living in Lebanon/Syria more specifically the Lebanon Mountains & the Orontes River in Syria. Also they were a large population in Aleppo as well as Antioxeia living with orthodox & muslims.

From your and the Turkish guy's perspective and thoughts on the culture issue, I would say I'm kind of between two of your opinions. I would say that there would be slightly more Turkish people on the Western Aegean Provinces (More of non-coastline provinces) and also the regions of Bursa/Kocaeli. I'm really not too sure but it does need a little change.

Also, could you do a video on Turkish culture origins?

Ludi area around Antioch at that period must have have a lot of Alawite you forgot.

Wow Ludi has a history degree in creme ala creme of history!

I assume the objectivities of a book written by a Greek and another written by Turkish History Association are similarly questionable. Maybe we can agree the situation was somewhere in the median line regarding the cultural distribution.

Good video! I think byz and ottto should be at peace but a 100 years war eu4 Maine event should be there to either continue or not the war.

Funny thing is that kurds didn’t step into Anatolia till the 16th century with the orders of Selim I to suppress the Kizilbas(alevi turqomans.). They’ve became more populated in 19th century Even then it was not a “land culture”. There were just small groups and villages that was limited to cities like Hakkari and Sirnak.

Ludi, do you agree that Komnenos not only are based, but the whole name is beautiful and nice to pronounce? It sounds epic.

Oh boy. Speed running historical ottoman expansion in tbis game will be magnificent

Wow Olive tree in Japan! I hope it grows beautiful and strong. One of my prefered trees with holly oak or normal oak.

Okay Ludi, you asked and you shall receive: My allegiance is to the Republic, to Democracy!

What did Turks expect the region has been Greek since Alexander the Great

Emperor Constantine XI Palaiologos died during the siege of Constantinople. So as far as i know palaiologos dynasty didn't subject themselves to the ottomans unti their last breath

Hey Ludi, around 6:30-ish you guessed that "ogullari" is the way of naming a dynasty in turkish which was correct! It means "the sons of" just like how the vikings used their fathers names like "Ragnarsson." After 2-3 generations turks changed the "ogullari" with just "li-lu." For example Osmanli (Ottoman) Selcuklu (Seljuk Empire) - it basically means "those from Osman/Selcuk(establisher of the dynasty." All the anatolian turks were calling themselves "those from the Baylik Oghuz" before they established their own houses. I don't know if this was originally a turkic tradition because you don't see the turks naming themselves after dynasties and the dynasties after their establishers before they mixed with the persians. Maybe you can do some research about this and find something interesting about it, i always love the small history lessons you give us in your videos!

You're being accused of lying by the guy you're criticising. You should go on the forums and defend your name.

Speaking of ancient city names that the US of A took. Did you know, that within the United States there are two towns very close to each other with the names Rome and Carthage. Found them randomly while playing Geoguessr. Also yo Ludi you got like a small cupboard space that I could move into in Japan, would appreciate.

6:35 Dynasty names in the end of every beylik (oğulları) means "Sons of", for example "Osmanoğulları" means "Sons of Osman"

Most of the inaccuracies of this map come from the fact that it doesn't show muslim Greeks. Many Greeks, before they were Turkified, converted to Islam, which is non-existent in the map. Considering that Turks ruled those lands for more than a century, there should be some Muslim Greeks. The majority of Turks came to Anatolia fleeing from the Mongols, and most of these Turks settled on the western or westernish side of Anatolia (expension of The Ottoman Empire is partially caused by it) there should be a little more Turks in western parts that are not close to the coast.

Were you a history teacher or at least go to the university as a history teacher? I had some history teachers at the university that were really cool like you. There are a lot of fun and made the class humorous

W Ludi for the Komnenoi support

how hard do you think it will be to play byzantium? I think it will be my first playthrough and probably my first failure lol

the first 2 and a half minutes of the video broke my heart

It will be so satisfying to make this all Greek, Armenian and Assyrian.

There are several Kurdish cultures and dialects btw. And there were a lot more Christians in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Iraq than people think in the Middle East until the 14th century at least. Many historians believe these places were majority Christian until the 14th century when the crusades and Mongols pushed Islam and muslim rulers to be a lot more pushy about conversion and religious jurisprudence. Syria, Lebanon and Northern Iraq may have even continued to be majority Christian until the Ottoman pogroms of 1915-1918 while eastern Turkey was did have a qualified majority of Armenians all the way to these same pogroms telling us they were likely an absolute majority in earlier centuries (although difficult to say with the Timurid massacres).

Correction: Bayazid was not executed by Timur, he is believed to die either from a posion wich he hidden inside his ring and drank it or died of giref. But yeah... Why the hell would you attack him, THE TIMUR Other then that yeah it happened pretty much as you said

I buss every time i see a ludi EU5 video

22:11 Paulicians, Pavia says it in the desciption...

I am actually from the original Philadelphia aka. Alaşehir how is it known today. Please come and be ours guests 😁

What is the expected release date of eu5 then btw?

In east blacksea there is no olive production. Hazelnut, tea and especially Trebizond has gold mines.

Just for the record, Anatolia, up until 14th-15th century were majority Greek and Armenian. Any Turk who claims otherwise doesn't know what he's talking about. The Sultanate of Rum or "Anadolu Selcuklu Devleti" (State of Anatolian Seljuks) as it is called in Turkish nowadays, was called that because the people they ruled over were Romans (Rum = Rome/Roman). In fact, up until 1923 (when population exchange happened) there was a relatively large population of Greeks and Armenians residing in Anatolia still. That said, I object to that map being named "cultures" when it should be "ethnicities". Because culturally speaking Turks were like a sponge. They absorbed the culture of wherever they went and adopted into their own culture. As they passed through Iran, they adopted parts of Iranian culture and language, when they arrived in Anatolia they adopted the Roman culture into their way of life, from language to architecture to military tradition most of what is today "Turkish" is actually an amalgam of Greek and Persian cultures. Even today, despite 200 years as separate countries, Greeks and Turks are basically cut from the same cloth. So it doesn't make much sense to me to separate them. But of course, we are talking about a company who has made the decision to display Azeris as a wholly separate "culture" to Turks. So whatever.

Ludi at 21:54 I think the Lebanese Christians you’re thinking of are the Maronites but they are in Communion with Rome at this time so they would show up as Catholic or should at least. This is why I wish that they’ll add Rites in this game to show the different Catholic, Orthodox, Coptic and Protestant Churches. For example the Latin rite, Ambrosian rite, Mezoarabic rite, Sarum rite, Maronite rite, Byzantine rite, and the Rite of Lyon for the Catholic Church

In EU4 I always go Trebazoid into Byzantium. Despite being a much harder start and it will take roughly 80 to 100 years to take Anatolia and the Bulkans, you will be battling a debt spiral the entire time unless you establish the gold mine early (which you must! I never did until just before I swapped over, I am 6K in debt and it took me till 1626 to form Byzantium because of it), But once you establish control over the whole area your GDP will be high enough that you'll be making 30 to 40 ducats a month and you can consolidate your debt into 6 to 10 loans, at which point the banks won't care anymore due to how good your GDP is, meaning you can take up to 100K loans before you go bankrupt, but still, better to start paying off at this point; The AI will pull silly nonsense to delay you, but once you form, you start is a much more powerful position, you also can immediately reform the Government soon as you form Byzantium, won't start with any negative locked in estate privileges (but for some weird reason they're available to assign); Seems Paradox never thought players would actually pull it off, because they never bothered adding a unique Trebazoid version of Byzantium, nope just the default, with the default mission tree when you form, which is weird because it includes the mission where you get the buff for deposing... yourself but you're still in charge... what? lol. In the process you also finish half the mission tree instantly too. Will have insane buffs for 15 to 20 years out the gate, then you can stomp Venice and whoever else is still around in the area holding territory you're after right away, regardless of the AI pulling nonsense such as hiring 60K worth of Mercenaries (which they often do now). Oh and the Mamluks and QQ (which is often still around with a Treb start) are easily swept aside by you if you ally Ethiopia. The Russians have been notoriously unreliable as an ally in EU4 since patch 1.36, still are to this day. They are constantly in incredibly high debt, so always refuse to help. The best you can do is try to PU them at some point; You do need to ally them and royal marry them or PU them to complete two different mission trees after you finish the Treb mission tree, assuming you flip to Georgia, if not, just for Byzantium. By that point your AI Polish Ally or Hungarian ally will turn on you anyway and you won't need them anymore either. I imagine a 1337 start will be much easier for Trebazoid, assuming your neighbours are more focused on each other instead of forming alliance webs around you to block expansion. (which EU4's AI does now - has done so since 1.34).

I want there to be an alternative on the main menu to chose at the start of the game to have historical wars active or not.

The suffix “-lar” makes the word plural in Turkish so Osmanoğlu means “son of Osman” and Osmanoğulları means “the sons of Osman”. But i don’t know if they did the same changes in the dynasty names for other countries

catalans in anatolia wasn't something i expected to see today

Truly man truly God

I hope they add the Iskan policy for the ottomans or other turkish beyliks so it would be easier to change culture in the game compared to eu4. Same thing can be added to greek culture nations via ancient colonizing methods. That would be make the game more fun around anatolia

The problem with the culture system in eu4 is that it's static and you need to give a kidney to change culture in a single province. If they make migarations and assimilations organic it'll be fine.

17:45 You are right @LudietHistoria that area has this ethnicity instead; en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zazas