Ludwig vs. Slingerland

Ludwig vs. Slingerland - Snare Duel

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3 жыл бұрын

Hey! This week we're comparing snare drums! I finally got some new heads for my slingerland snare so I figured this video would be a perfect way to break them in. Enjoy!
Which one do you like better?
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Пікірлер: 67

@seansteel4449 Жыл бұрын

No contest. It's the slingerland. Though should have used ambassadors on both.

@PrettyCoolDrumShow Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I need to redo it with the same heads!

@adanvaldcontreras4283 2 жыл бұрын

Both sound great... keep them...

@philipnestor5034 7 ай бұрын

Keep both of them. You can never have too many snare drums.😊

@gerardodelprete7919 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations for the video, the Slingerland is much more convincing !!

@Tholor463 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty cool drum show you got there

@PrettyCoolDrumShow 3 жыл бұрын

🙏🥰🙏

@davidcudlip6587 Жыл бұрын

I play a late 60's Slingerland Krupa and love it. The snare clamp on yours has been changed out over time. I like the thinner sound of the Slingerland, but that Ludwig sounds great, too. I'm using 16 strand Puresound Custom snares to get a little more of the shell sound. I think the thinner sound sits in a band mix better. Try Remo coated Ambassador heads if you get a chance. This was a great video on two metal shell drums that showed the variance in sound.

@giuseppecasa3574 2 жыл бұрын

I like both very nice sounds

@cagg311 Жыл бұрын

The slinger actually sounds amazing! I got one from the 50-60s I've been thinking of rehabbing cuz it still has all original snares and heads still. This video just lit the fire under my ass lol. Gonna go grab some stuff now

@catface101 10 ай бұрын

Slingerland is exactly what I want a snare to sound like, Ludwig sounded like a basketball in a school hall -- I know they're good drums so maybe it was the tuning that was off?

@HawaiiSamurai567 3 жыл бұрын

very nice vid dude , like usually !

@PrettyCoolDrumShow 3 жыл бұрын

Aye! Appreciate it!

@iddrumco 2 жыл бұрын

Tommy, you sound great! Two things about your Slingerland Gene Krupa Sound King Snare Drum. First, you can get an intact Slingerland Zoomatic Strainer. They are out there and they were durable! I am sure the strainer in you Drum was dropped and/or abused in some way. I have had several for over 40 years and the work just fine. Second, original Slingerland Snare Wires were the finest snare wires ever made. I have a set of Slingerland wires that are 15” long for a 14” drum. The snare wires go right to the edge on the Strainer side and they extend over the bearing edge on the Butt side. The snare wires employ snare cord on the Strainer side and an attached metal strap on the Butt side. You can bed the metal strap to attain a totally flat engagement of the snare wires against the snare head. Literally the whole Snare head has almost 100% Snare Wire engagement to produce an incomparable sound! It will out-perform your Bronze Supraphonic in both sensitivity/articulations and in power/volume. Please do that drum right Tommy! Great post! 😉👍🏻🥁🎼🇺🇸

@ineedstuff8286 Жыл бұрын

i gotta look into this,,, i have this cob snare. i cant get my drums to sound like videos or recordings ever, i swear

@crichardson536 6 ай бұрын

Great job on the comparison here and great skills you have!! I found an old Krupa sound king recently and am waiting on delivery. Amazing and underrated drum no doubt. It gets my vote in this comparison.

@danhoyland142 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool comparison

@rudobuquadrant 3 жыл бұрын

I started messing around with reso heads recently and noticed a huge difference between the thinner diplomats and thicker Evans 300 even when tuned to the exact same pitch. The slingerland sounded best for my personal taste but both sounded really good. The whole kit sounds great.

@PrettyCoolDrumShow 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting! I feel like I’m always just at the mercy of whatever heads are in stock when my bottom head breaks lol

@horsejumperoflove 3 жыл бұрын

love ur channel dude

@PrettyCoolDrumShow 3 жыл бұрын

Thank u!! 🙏🙏🙏

@brianhillhouse 3 жыл бұрын

That slingerland really cuts through on this vid compared to the Ludwig

@PrettyCoolDrumShow 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it does! Definitely noticing it more in the video compared to when playing them in real time though. I wonder if it’s from the difference in bottom heads as well

@celticpridedrums Жыл бұрын

#1 love your drumming--very nice; you have a great "top 40 feel for rock" ; #2 you must use the same heads for a better comparison; #3 the Ludwig has the sound I like, the Slingerland is not as sharp or crisp (however that is often the sound some drummers are looking for); to keep that top 40 crispy studio sound--use the Ludwig; #4 open up those toms--I know you are smoothing out the sound for recoding--but an Evans 2 ply without the tape (or for sure the UV's) will give good natural damping with a full sound--no boxes. But all that said, each to his own. Still great smooth rock tempos.

@olterquell_vrbndng657 3 жыл бұрын

i really love the background music ! :D

@PrettyCoolDrumShow 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Check out the Swift Coin Demo I posted here last week, if you're into the music!

@olterquell_vrbndng657 3 жыл бұрын

@@PrettyCoolDrumShow didn't expect you to make this kind of music, really like these post punk vibes. MIDI is gold !

@barrettnelson2507 10 ай бұрын

I snagged a Slingerland COB a couple years ago and tossed on Trick retro fit throw off and butt plate and it's a game changer

@danlozza 3 жыл бұрын

Very cool but, for a "duel" perhaps use same heads, snares etc to get the most accurate comparison. Black dots rock but are totally different than coated heads. Jmo. Rock on.

@218maryland 3 жыл бұрын

This channel somehow ties me over with there being no music in the wild lol thanks!

@218maryland 3 жыл бұрын

and slingerland came through my speakers better than the ludwig :)

@PrettyCoolDrumShow 3 жыл бұрын

Love to hear it! Thanks!

@PrettyCoolDrumShow 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m surprised, I would’ve bet money the Ludwig would cut through more but the slingerland is a low key beast

@Kapalypso 3 жыл бұрын

Both sound really good but I have a slight preference for the Ludwig. I had some snares before, but I had so much trouble choosing that I ended up selling everything and I kept only one :)

@vincentfederico1585 4 ай бұрын

Slingerland for the win. Big time.

@supmet2 Жыл бұрын

Same heads, same tuning, would help to make a better comparison. That said, I preferred the Slingerland.

@1thess523 10 ай бұрын

I was really surprised at how good the slingerland sounded with a clear head, it cut through nicely. I think if you used a coated head it would have sounded closer to you Ludwig. Now on the throw off of the ludwig, if it the P85 that's known flr getting loose and so people upgrade to the P88 which is what I'm going to eventually do for my Ludwig Acrolite Black Galaxy Sparkle 👍

@keithfisher7333 3 жыл бұрын

You need both though....At the end of the day, what you like doesn't matter, what sounds right for the song you are playing does.

@jrfrondelli2023 3 жыл бұрын

You cited both the Slingerland Zoomatic and Ludwig P85 strainers as not being great. Neither ever was, so that's an understatement. :O But the Ludwig has the edge here for me.

@scottsmith2764 Жыл бұрын

I have the same slingerland snare and actually put a Ludwig strainer on it. It is so much better than the stock zoomatic…. Those are the worst! The slingerland COB with an upgraded strainer is an easy job and solid upgrade!

@jaymeramirez7435 Жыл бұрын

Love it. What’s your ride cymbal?

@PrettyCoolDrumShow Жыл бұрын

This video I’m pretty sure it’s a 24” K light ride

@danhoyland142 3 жыл бұрын

I definitely like the slingerland better. I had their festival snare which is pretty cheap and that thing was actually pretty good. Slingerland made some really good drums but they are underrated. A lot of older guys told me when they were new they were considered junk but I have owned ludwig and slingerland kits and I think the main issue is slingys are mad hard to tune, especially floor Tom’s. Their bearing edges are so thick it makes it hard to center the head.

@ineedstuff8286 Жыл бұрын

I spent a couple years trying to tune my floor tom… sittin right next to it as i read this mess age and was like, WHAT,!,?.???” No wonder. I tuned the 12 “ immediately. This floor tom never seems to sound like a comparable tone of 12 but different pitch etc.

@danhoyland142 Жыл бұрын

Yea dude, everyone drums tuning needs depends on the bearing edge. It effects the pitch by the lug when you tap it too. The slingers will have a high pitch when they are actually at a medium tuning. You gotta crank the bottom head reaaaaaal tight. There’s always one lug that is actually only finger tight too. Find that lug and tighten it 1.5 to 3 full turns while hitting the drum in the center with your drum stick. You will hear the warm bottom edge come out and you then you will also notice tremendous stick rebound from the drum now too. I love tuning drums by ear, it’s pretty much a hobby and been doing it for 20 years. I tuned a 3 ply slingy kit at a studio once for the engineer. These were spirit 1000s which had the maple poplar maple shell but with No reinforcement hoops. That floor too to this day was the best I ever heard.

@ineedstuff8286 Жыл бұрын

@@danhoyland142 im like ready to smah mine w a hammer… ugh, you sound u know what is up though. I think my main problem is the lugs are bent maybe?.. i swear, the floor tom , snare and kick… all the lugs. As you tighten them, it gets loose, then tight… you think the lug is super tight, then you turn more and you realize the the head is total loose. I cant really do the “finger tight” thing because the lugs get tight at points that are stronger than my hand. Im just buyin a brand new snare, floor and kick… I cant take a chance and buy a used drums.

@danhoyland142 Жыл бұрын

Your lug bolts and inside the lugs need to be degreased and cleaned, and relubed, that’s all. Rust builds up inside the lugs with other debris and the old grease turns hard, which is exactly why your having that issue. Take the hoops off and wash each drum ( not bass drum) in the sink. After spray simple green in the lugs and throw all the bolts and washers in a cup of simple green. Let them sit for 30 minutes and scrub the bolt threads with a brush and use a thin ass brush to get into the lugs. Once they are clean, put the heads and hoops back on, and put white lithium grease on each thread before tightening. You will have a whole a new drum and it will solve all those issues.

@ineedstuff8286 Жыл бұрын

@@danhoyland142 you are an absolute LEGEND!!! Nice!! Thank you!!!

@keithfisher7333 3 жыл бұрын

Well....you know there's a retrofit plate that allows you to mount a Trick GS007 on a Zoomatic equipped Slingy with no new holes. I have a similar snare.... With the butt plate, if the mounting tabs face inward the spacing should be about 1.5". There's a Pearl Symphonic butt plate that has the same spacing. If the mounting tabs face outward, like mine.... The spacing will be in the 1 3/4 to 1 13/16.... There is a PDP plate that specs at 1 3/4. At 1 13/16 the Ludwig P33 (and Gibraltar version) are at those dimensions as well as the newer Atlas P35P. With these butt plates, you may have to do some slight reaming to adjust the dimensions, but it should be no big deal. With that hardware it would become your most reliable drum. The brass slingy should be darker in tone both because it's brass but also because the shell is much thicker than a Ludwig brass shell. It also likely has brass hoops too (take good care of these). If you find it too dark try a coated Ambassador to get more attack and brightness. That Controlled Sound on there should be 2 ply and should have less harmonic content and is a darker overall sound.

@PrettyCoolDrumShow 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the info! I’m definitely going to look into getting new hardware for it

@keithfisher7333 3 жыл бұрын

@@PrettyCoolDrumShow Another thing, if you need to open it up more in the highs. Maybe try S-hoops? They are Slingerland style inward flanged hoops, but might be made out of steel instead of brass. I didn't actually see a description of what material they are made of, but are described as "heavy duty". Obviously, take good care of the original brass hoops, but the steel would be harder and transmit more energy through the hoops.