LuK? Sachs? Valeo? Exedy? Aisin? AP? Which clutch brands to use and why. Damage assessment.

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Hello guys! How many times have we been looking for a problem related to the gearbox or clutch pedal and in the end the problem has always been in the clutch kit that was placed earlier!? The brand of a clutch cannot be something that is decided by opinion or taste, it must always be the same brand that was supplied to the factory during assembly. Sometimes, inside the box with the incorrect brand, the parts are actually correct, that's why sometimes it works well, but most of the time not really!
As we can perfectly see, the construction tolerances are very different and in fact this disc rubbed against the crankshaft bolts. In addition to its central clearance, it was very unstable and difficult to drive!
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@GuHKSBASS Жыл бұрын

Another great informative video On the JTD i always had good experience with Valeo

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! I will have more videos for this on JTD and Mjet

@sleish85 11 ай бұрын

Very useful information Thank you 😁👌🇬🇧

@alfaromeonoproblem 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

@JayJay-du4tp 11 ай бұрын

Great info. This is very informative for someone who doesn’t understand how clutch/flywheel work. I have a Toyota and when I asked other fellow Toyota car owners if Sachs clutch will work, i kept reading “keep the car stock as possible”. I didn’t know what they meant. But now I know they meant to buy excedy or aisin because they are the OE manufacturer for Toyotas and other Japanese brands.

@alfaromeonoproblem 11 ай бұрын

I know the pain.. when we say keep it stock, it's because we already suffered and learn enough to say that

@JoseManuel.M 10 ай бұрын

Aisin 5,6 spd clutches tend to rattle

@JayJay-du4tp 10 ай бұрын

@@JoseManuel.M on what car and combo with what flywheel?

@timcolehan4135 Жыл бұрын

Great video Bruno. Thanks for the amazing videos. Actually the 156 2.4 20V has a LUK flywheel and clutch. Same with the 159 I believe. The OEM Alfa clutch is also LUK. The 4cylinder JTDs are Valeo.

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Hello. 5 cylinder with GM gearbox, yes it's Luk. But with Fiat's gearbox is Valeo

@tirgod100 11 ай бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem nahh... i have toyota auris 2011 1.6 valvematic... my clutch went off so the mechanic replaced it to aisin and now the release bearing is rattling and the clutch bite point is totally at the top which suppose to be in the bottom third from the floor... it is not the brand ... and actually they returned me back the old cluct h and release bearing and the clutch plate was aisin but the release bearing was luk. So maybe aisin release bearings are not quality made hence they put luk from factory.

@martinbrengartner3036 Жыл бұрын

Hello Bruno , i learn a lot from you 😍😍😍😍😏😏

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for watching

@TABRO284 Жыл бұрын

Your channel is a great one.

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much!

@phhuynh9881 6 ай бұрын

I Love SACHS Clutches , always very reliable brand , real Made in Germany. But Valeo and Aisin are very good too

@miro6138 5 ай бұрын

They are in fact all made in Slovakia these days (only sachs race parts are still made in germany)

@DashCamSerbia Жыл бұрын

Хвала!

@MegaMare87 Жыл бұрын

Great Video! Maybe do you know whitch brand of clutch+flywheel is used original in Giuliettas 1.6 diesel engines?

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Hello. Thank you very much for watching! O believe it is Valeo brand.

@tanginashidengo2287 5 ай бұрын

Great video. Quite informative. I would to know, what is the best brand for a Ford Focus Ecoboost 2016 1.0L? Is Aisin a great option? Please let me know, thanks!!

@alfaromeonoproblem 5 ай бұрын

Hello. Thanks for watching, you have to use the factory supplier. I suspect it's Sachs. But you have to make sure

@BlackWolfy90 Жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm probably going to have to replace my clutch and dualmass flywheel in the next half a year, it's an alfa gt jtd, I also suspect it was remapped by the previous owner, judging by the performance I measured. What would you recommend between Luk, Sasch, valeo and blueline, I have these options in my country to chose from. some people say some brands can't be combined with the DMF from the other brand and some can.

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Hello. Use Valeo parts only on that car

@ernestaszilinskij8227 Жыл бұрын

Hi thanks for video . I have knock issue with 159 2.4jdtm Q4 . Knocking sound comes when i release the clutch ( but if i release very gentle then dont have any knock sound) also knocking sound comes when i switching off cruise control . Mechanic check driveshaft and he looks all right . Knocking sound looks like comes from rear centre . Any ideas ? Thanks

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Try to disconnect the rear driveshaft. It the problem remains the issue can be with the flywheel

@noliberalismeveragain 5 ай бұрын

I'm still hearing a perfect rhythmic vibration in between each gear But only when driving never at a standstill...😢😢😢😢luk clutch n bearing....

@quillaume2390 8 ай бұрын

Hi Bruno, nice video. Question: i have a Toyota Avensis T25 2.0 petrol 2007. Clutch still works but there is some space when i go from the 2e gear to the 3e gear and from the 4e gear to the 5e gear. Some mechanics told me that the cluch is not 100% anymore. Which brand clutch would be good for my car...? Sachs or Luk or Aisin? When i let the Toyota dealer replace it, it will costs around 1150 euro. But a universal garage asks around 650-750. They use Sachs or Luk. What would be your advise..? Hear from you. Gr

@alfaromeonoproblem 8 ай бұрын

Hello. Try to find out at the dealership which brand comes from factory. And use only that one. Is very common to use Luk and it will may fail very rapidly. However, some engine and gearbox combination use Luk, even on Toyota gasoline engines. Here in Portugal 99% of cars are diesel, so I cannot advise you for your car. Sorry

@huszaratraktor 8 ай бұрын

What if that center part got loose because the heat / vibration / friction as it was grinding against the flywheel bolts? I guess previous owner or mechanic installed a clutch that wasn't made for the car. It had the same diameter but not the same OEM number. I might be wrong ofcourse.

@alfaromeonoproblem 8 ай бұрын

Hello. Yes, that is my point. This clutch set cannot be mounted here. Only the same supplier from factory

@dnacannotchange 8 ай бұрын

no sleeve incl throw out bearing installed on the Sachs!!! So the shop put in a look luk.... Now I have to bleed the clutch every 5 days because it's sucking air from all the vibration

@alfaromeonoproblem 8 ай бұрын

The first video of next month will be for that! They put Luk instead of Valeo, and the problems just keep coming.

@rigobertocervantes7630 2 ай бұрын

Any recommendations for a new clutch kit on a 01 frontier 4 cylinder, what brand would be good??

@alfaromeonoproblem 2 ай бұрын

Hello. I cannot tell, try to find what was the factory assembly

@Brisbane2024 Жыл бұрын

I just mounted LUK clutch and dual mass flywheel to 105HP JTD. Hope the quality is better then what you told, based on your experience. Your video came to late 😢Thanks

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Unfortunately I have more videos to come with more Luk issues and problems. And in your case you do not have the intake valve to save the flywheel.

@Brisbane2024 Жыл бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem Thanks for that quick answers. Than let’s keep fingers crossed for a long live clutch and DMFW. 😀

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Let's hope. A very hard clutch pedal is the first sign

@user-wu5qo7xn8c 8 ай бұрын

@@Brisbane2024hows the clutch?

@Xrater96 4 ай бұрын

Man i need you help. First thanks for the video. I have a vw passat variant b8 1.6tdi 2015. I have knocking noises when the car is in neutral with the cluth released, in any other variant there is no knocking. I bought sachs flywheel and clutch kit. My question is did i make a mistake with Sachs and is it the same problem as here in your opinion? Thank you ❤

@alfaromeonoproblem 4 ай бұрын

Hello. Thanks for watching. VW use Sachs on most assemblies. But beware that normally some noises are the actual gearbox

@Xrater96 4 ай бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem Thans for the reply and info. I really hope its not 😁 Wish you all the best

@fabiuh991 3 ай бұрын

My 147 1.6 developed a metallic banging noise which i think its comming from the gearbox side. Its not audible at all times but it desappears when i press the clutch, also the banging frequency matches the engine rpm. Ideas?😮

@alfaromeonoproblem 3 ай бұрын

Without hearing the noise is not easy to help. But you will have to remove the gearbox anyway, so check out for bad push bearings and bad clutch

@fabiuh991 2 ай бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblemkzfaq.info9dbmXooDZo0?si=kXwLMBCyQEbVP8j4 😬

@abdulbeany1894 5 ай бұрын

Hi got audi a4 b7 2.0 tdi 2006 6 speed manual what cluch and dual mass flywheel would you recomend thanks

@alfaromeonoproblem 5 ай бұрын

Hello. I think the factory fits Sachs.

@abdulbeany1894 5 ай бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem thanks

@ruatasailo2990 11 ай бұрын

What clutch brand will I use on my Bolero ZLX M2DICR

@alfaromeonoproblem 11 ай бұрын

Hello. I do not know what car is that. Sorry. Try to find out what is the factory supplyer

@salihmk9142 2 ай бұрын

Sir I have nissan sunny diesel 2012 model in india, pls advice me which brand clutch is good luk or valeo?

@alfaromeonoproblem 2 ай бұрын

Hello. Sorry, I cannot tell. Try to find out the original manufacturer for that car.

@abdulbeany1894 3 ай бұрын

Hi are the clutch plate springs suposed to have little movement thanks

@alfaromeonoproblem 3 ай бұрын

Hello. No, on a new plate zero play

@abdulbeany1894 3 ай бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem my spring have little movement only if I move it by hand

@alfaromeonoproblem 3 ай бұрын

@abdulbeany1894 a little for you can be a bit or a lot for me. Or be just ok. Is it just dragging?

@RandomYTStuff Жыл бұрын

Nice one...in my 156 mk1 sometimes I have trouble engaging the Reverse...sometimes it engages right away, other times it won't lock even after repeated combinations, e.g. 4th>reverse, 3>4>reverse, 5th>reverse....Reverse does not have a synchronizer I believe in this model....is there a way to operate it more smoothly?

@philipgligorov5848 Жыл бұрын

Same in my sister's 156 and same in my GT 1.9jtd. Just do it slowly and without much force. If you have tightened the parking brake, just release it first the car moves a little bit, and then engage reverse. You will learn to do it smoothly like that.

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

Hello. The best way is to put 1st or 2nd and then reverse. The operates with that set of gears. Make sure clutch cylinders are fully working

@RandomYTStuff Жыл бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem Thank you. I will try your suggestions. Sometimes this gets stressful, like when doing a full turn on the road; to avoid getting stuck for more time than would be safe or comfortable, I'd usually make sure the Reverse is engaged when stationary and first move in reverse and then forward, but it's not always practical. Clutch seems fine, the gearbox leaks a bit, I've agreed with my garage to change the gasket when replacing the clutch.

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

They normally leak. They do not use a gasket. It's a special glue

@RandomYTStuff Жыл бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem Ok, thanks for the info, I added the gasket part by rationalizing. Still it's not leaking to any degree that would impact gear selection, I don't find leaks on the road beneath the car, but the area shows signs of leaking.

@serhanaktas4864 6 ай бұрын

Which one is the best nissan 1.5 dci? Luk, aisin or sachs?

@alfaromeonoproblem 6 ай бұрын

Hello. Depends on the gearbox type and on the flywheel system. Try to know on your local dealership with the vin number. Or with a Renault expert

@peterzoltan5839 5 ай бұрын

I am working with clutches almoust daily (I am a mechanic ) and Luk is one of the best brands in clutches. Here I think that the previous owner changed the clutch by dimensions reference and not what the EPC asked . For example : for an alfa gt 1.8 the best clutch is Valeo , Luk even not made clutch kit for this model.

@user-sy1ed9ex5m Жыл бұрын

Come works fine for these engines as well, IMO

@DashCamSerbia Жыл бұрын

Comline?

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

I've seen comline packaging Valeo sometimes

@alfaromeonoproblem Жыл бұрын

I've seen comline packaging Valeo sometimes

@user-sy1ed9ex5m Жыл бұрын

@@DashCamSerbia Hmm, it seems a've got a NOS one, they seem to have changed their name.

@DashCamSerbia Жыл бұрын

@@user-sy1ed9ex5m I don't know man. I have never heard of that brand.

@motorheadfan-jk6bv 15 сағат бұрын

I have a Hyundai i20 petrol 2012 Which brand should I use Thank you

@alfaromeonoproblem 8 сағат бұрын

Hello. Sorry, I do not know. Ask on a dealership near you. I only work on Italian cars

@petrosztn3216 10 ай бұрын

Which do you recommend for Suzuki SX4 2010 ?

@alfaromeonoproblem 10 ай бұрын

Little to no sales of that car here in Portugal. Do not know what the factory supplyer is

@petrosztn3216 9 ай бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem SX4 is the SUV version of Suzuki Swift... very similar. The clutch is damaged and i'm searching to what clutch should i buy. Probable i'll put Exedy

@alfaromeonoproblem 9 ай бұрын

I know what car is. It also depends on the engine and gearbox combination. Try to ask on the dealership

@leod3963 3 ай бұрын

Aisin is a Toyota brand just like Denso.

@joseurbina6219 6 ай бұрын

Between aisin and exedy which is better for Toyota??

@alfaromeonoproblem 6 ай бұрын

Hello. It depends a lot on the model of it. It may not be none of those at all. Try to find out what is the factory assembly brand

@user-vb2xc6oq4k 6 ай бұрын

I got honda CR-V ex 4x4 manual 200 whatt clutch you thing it good for it my only got header air flow original motor my first honda don't now whatt clutch are good some body can let me now please thank s much

@alfaromeonoproblem 6 ай бұрын

Hello. Try to find out the original brand.

@user-vb2xc6oq4k 6 ай бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem need buy it auto part put original clutch tank you s much

@dnacannotchange 8 ай бұрын

My Sachs slave cylinder is full of gray metallic toothpaste material...... My Nissan oem master clutch cylinder $164.... Doesn't seal at the hardline..... Found out today....😅.... After bleeding the clutch I can only drive for 3 day.... And that's after stopping all the leaks..... It needs an exceed pressure plate.

@alfaromeonoproblem 8 ай бұрын

So sorry to hear that. Hope you can find parts and solve that

@peterzoltan5839 5 ай бұрын

Your slave cylinder is dead because the fluid in the cylinder is very old, full of water and the water damaged the cylinder.(The clutch/brake fluid is hygroscopic and it needs to be changed every 2-3 years for proper functioning of the brakes and clutches.(unfortunately nobody is doing this)

@minot.8931 Жыл бұрын

Luk aren’t that bad. I believe Luk is owned by Valeo as a budget brand and they use Valeo patterns, andY they often come with Valeo stamped parts in the box. Your clutch clearly looks like the wrong clutch for the car, which is why it looks weedy next to the correct clutch, and why it was fouling on the flywheel bolts. It was clearly more damaged than worn out.

@fun2rideadventure 6 ай бұрын

LUK is not owned by Valeo, and it is OE supplier quality , it is owned by Schaeffler ... LUK is the top one, and after came Valeo and Sachs.....

@minot.8931 5 ай бұрын

@@fun2rideadventure My experience is that Valeo is the better quality. LUK is okay.. pretty good and less grabby than a Borg&Beck clutch.. but just from their appearance you can see Valeo is better made. I've had Valeo clutches that lasted 120,000 miles. Best LUK has managed 90,000. Since the biggest ball-ache is changing the clutch, not the 10% more cost, I would choose a Valeo every time, unless there was no choice.

@fun2rideadventure 6 ай бұрын

it doesnt matter if it LUK or Valeo or Sacks etc ... check if the LUK clutch kit it was compatible with your car .... there are many versions, and if the parts identification was correct made...... you should add the LUK part numbers here .... and you vehicle data .... so we can check if that LUK clutck kit was corrected identified for your car .... I worked in this domain and I know what i am tolking about!!! the rest that luk or sach or valeo or aisin or ap ...etc.... is not good for this or for that car is just a story .....

@alfaromeonoproblem 6 ай бұрын

Hello. Unfortunately my day to day work says otherwise kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hL9kl9uUl7asfY0.htmlsi=-6UHDy2iXi1ZQL1t

@mohamedalgerian1 9 ай бұрын

which brand is best Luk or Sachs

@alfaromeonoproblem 9 ай бұрын

I like better Sachs. But if the car uses other brand like Luk from factory. That is what you have to use

@Rehanlille 7 ай бұрын

Luk Dualmass flywheel lasts longer than Sahcs , Luk is better

@alfaromeonoproblem 7 ай бұрын

@Rehanlille depends, for what car?

@gladiator7269 7 ай бұрын

@@alfaromeonoproblem Hello, what can you say about the ClutchMax brand from eBay for Honda Civic 2008 1.8 manual?

@alfaromeonoproblem 7 ай бұрын

@gladiator7269 hello. Never heard of it. Maybe it's s brand that is packaging other stuff. When that happens, it's a lottery. Sometimes good, most of the times is awful

@joes5096 8 ай бұрын

Dude if you have the wrong clutch in there it's never going to work. WTF do you think is happening when you see those flywheel bolts rubbed out? The clutch is holding off and you have slippage. The whole assembly looks gross as if they just cross installed something from the shelf. LUK is my go to, its a Valeo. I do run Exceedy on on my Honda's and Mazda's

@alfaromeonoproblem 8 ай бұрын

Hello. I agree. But maybe I did not make myself clear. I bought the car like this. I did not knew how it was until I took it out. Fortunately it was "just" the wrong clutch set and not a problem on the gearbox

@joes5096 8 ай бұрын

but you sit and bash LUK as junk - that whole assembly looked like a clown show @@alfaromeonoproblem

@alfaromeonoproblem 8 ай бұрын

@joes5096 and I do not like it. But I also said that it has to be used on cars that use them from factory. Doesn't matter if I like it or not.

@dnacannotchange 8 ай бұрын

Don't buy luck uneven pressure plate fingers severe vibration

@alfaromeonoproblem 8 ай бұрын

They is true