This is your most visually appealing video so far. Love the shots with the lume!

That was just plain fun!! I enjoyed every "un-scientific" minute of the video because it was representative of something any normal person would have done in their own living room. Ok, maybe just me...but then I'm not so normal :) Nothing takes me back to my childhood like a good ole flashlight and glow in the dark stuff!! Thanks for sharing your fun test with all of us!!

Great video, I really enjoyed it. One quick question, do all seiko watches look like the tuna? I just bought a sarb017 and I hope it glows like that. Same thing for a 007?

I'm really pleased with the Lumibrite on my Alpinist, even though it's small dots it still has enough lume when I wake up in the middle of the night.

Why don't you do time-lapse, and see which one die first? Love it btw!

In general blue lume is always dimmer than green. It's pretty amazing how well the blue lume is actually doing. The more lume you use the longer it will last as well

Yeah, Awesome video. Awesome lume on both those watches!! Love the colour of the BGW9!! The lumibrite seems to light up the whole watch!! Certainly the Lumibrite looks way brighter and for longer!

Hi, Would you recommend the RL? Is a watch as good as seiko? at least quality price? or does it bring problems?

A comparison between the Tuna and the Boldr Odyssey would have been a better idea, since the Boldr has the same lume as the Richand Legrand, but with way bigger indexes.

Any idea how long each one kept glowing until it was unreadable?

Enjoyed this as it’s important to me. Thanks. Can you do a 3 hour Vlog so I can see what they look like after 3 hours!! 😹

@The Time Teller hello sir, can u plz tell me a cheaply priced watch like that same type of glowing bezels which the Odyssea Mark ll have within $50-$60 dollars!!

Jory, I have a question. It is important to me that a watch be readable ALL NIGHT. Is there any lume but tritium that will permit this?

How long normally the lume last ?

But how long did they actually last? Minutes? Hours?

What time is it please?

Cool video. And, from my own experience Lumibrite is generally a tiny bit better than any other common superluminova type lume out there. It really depends on the application also. More on that below. Lumibrite will be very strong when initially charged.. it almost feels radioactive. it is very strong at the beginning. Then when it fades a bit, it's still very long lasting and glows sufficiently well throughout the night. I also find Lumibrite, at least the newest formula used in the SBBN033 (or similar models), to be very reactive and currently, imho, the best.. Doesn't take that much to get it charged and it lasts long. I joke to myself and others that it's so good, it practically negates nearly any advantage tritium tubes have since you can effectively see the lume easily with minimal charge time and it lasts a very long time.. well long enough than anyone should need to spend in complete darkness. Lumibrite in general, regardless of colors, is pretty good.. talking stuff like C3 and BGW9. Supposedly there's anewer formula of C1 lume that's supposed to be better than C1 of the past. Anyways, they are nearly as good as Lumibrite, but does seem just a tiny bit behind Lumibrite.. they don't seem seem as bright after freshly being charged and they typically fade a bit faster than Lumibrite. But, once you get both Lumibrite and Superluminova dimmed down and normalized at the lower lume glow level, they are about the same in terms of legibility when dimmed in very dark situations. I also have found Lumibrite endures just a tiny bit longer than Superluminova. Out of all the Superluminova including C3, BGW9, C1, and all the stuff in between including the Aged Radium looking lume.. C3 Green will be the most "potent". Green color will always show the strongest. BGW9 comes in very close, but because of the blue glow, it at least visually appears slightly less potent than C3. And, you really have to factor in the application. A larger and heavier deposit of lume paint will of course be stronger and more enduring. Consequently, lesser smaller applications will respectively be less so. Additionally, keep in mind perhaps the date of the application. If you compare a watch now 2018 to a watch from say 10 or even 5 years ago, chances are the lume intensity and performance will alter and reflect respectively. I would add, i've done my own custom Seiko mod with lume paint. Look up my "Night King" SKX mod on KZfaq. I have Yobokies Grand Seiko Diver hands which seemingly glow as much as Lumibrite. I have no idea what Yobokies uses, I assume C3 green lume. I have also repainted the lume on my aftermarket dial with a blue lume paint kit because it was weak C1 lume on it. And, I can say to my surprise that the $20 blue lume paint kit seams to glow just like BGW9 and lasts just as long as the Yobokies hands and all of them perform just about as good as Lumibrite. Reactive, strong bright glow upon fresh charge, a "good" sustained glow after removal from light charging source, and legible thoughout the night till morning.. a good 6-8 hours at least. BUT, if I'm being honest and nitpicking, they are still just an insignificant amount less than Lumibrite. But, damn close enough. I think there are plenty of very good lume being used on most modern watches these days, the differences will be marginal at best. But, I have seen and experienced some REALLY BAD lume application.. it's to the point where why bother? It pisses me off because it is more disappointing to see the application is so bad and weak than if they had not tried at all and not put the weak ass lume.

The green luminating Seiko may be brighter and last longer, but I like the blue lumination Odissey and find it more practical, because of the luminating second hand which the Seiko did not apply at the counting tip of the hand.

What is seiko lumebright Exact model no.????

Can anyone tell me the model name of that seiko ?

Again... good job. Best Channel about watches. That's for sure...

The real question, how long does the lume last ?

Would be nice to see a comparison between Seiko and Rolex, Rolex uses a compound just as bright as what Seiko’s proprietary stuff is.

The lume on the tuna is so bright you can see the date and read the words on the dial

Fun vid TT. Good use of the torch mate. Proper tool watchs, the Tuna would be worn by the tradesman and the Odyssey by the boss! 😎

Speaking of "lume," I'd love to hear your thoughts on tritium watches. I have two Deep Blue watches (one with T-25 tubes and one with T-100 tubes). I love these watches because they are fairly inexpensive and look really cool. I'd love to hear your thoughts on watches with tritium.

I have a 40 year old Lorus Dive watch. It's so bright you could find your way out of a coal mine at midnight. Lasts for hours too! None of my other watches come close.

To do this correctly and add some objectivity, one would need two identical Coleman flashlights, a timer and a way to hit each watch with light at the exact same time. Also, lume surface area plays a large part here. It's the large round globes in the SEIKO verses the flat thin markers in the Legrand. I submit this respectfully.This was fun, if somewhat subjective.

Wish you could have your Seiko go up against a Helm Khuraburi (with C3 or BGW9)

Oh man!!! You have an excelent channel, I really enjoy your videos, this one is amaizing... But if you ask me, I really love Seiko, and it's lume looks like radioactive material, how ever both have an excelent bright... I just want to say at the end, thank's for your work at the channel

You should test them after one or two hours in the dark and see who glow more.

Please consider a Lum-Tec MDV comparison to Seiko Lumibrite.

So if we put them facing each other, wouldn't they shined forever? :v

The lumibrite can be easily seen several hours after a charge of 10 minutes under a bright lamp. Charge up two watches under a florescent lamp at point blank range for 10 minutes. Check out both each hour for up to four hours.

As more lume paint they apply as longer and brighter it lasts. Look at lume tec. They put 8 layers on it and it is like a lamp the whole night. Also Deep Blue takes lot of lume for their 2nd gen watches like Master 1000 II. Even easy readable after 10h. Love watches with lume on the bezel as it look always professional!

Love this idea but maybe you need to do a take 2 video making it a little more scientific: 1. choose watches with similar lume patterns so the quantity of the lume material as close as possible 2. start with watches having NO glow 3. Charge the watches separately in a contained black place so light from charging other watch doesn't add to other watch 4. time how long the lumes take to de-charge and give the min/sec results at end. Thanks T3 great vid.

Is that the actual color of BGW9 lume ( Light Blue) or it is the camera ?

Hi there the lumes are super cool but don't they flake off and get blacked out ruining the watch like some 8 to 10 years down the line. Correct me if I'm wrong

I know this video is 3 years old, but I agree with you the more surface area the brighter it should be.

Great vid Jory - do the manufacturers put out 'lume' data, maybe lux/surface area vs time or something like that? I've heard other people talk about 'layers of application' too. My Seiko's are green and my Citizens are blue :p)

Do the j.spring diver BBH review please mr timer

T3 needs more longer videos like this!! The 2-3 min videos are kinda aggravating. Love these battles, how about your SKX vs Submariner lume test? Seiko's weakest vs Rolex's strongest.

The Marine Master (Tuna) is a 'tool' watch pure and simple. I contend putting it up against a desk diver is invalid. As others have noted the human eye detects green rather better than blue. That is why the HUD in jet fighters is depicted in green rather than any other colour.

i have a watch where the entire dial has superliminova C3 it is so bright when fully charged that you could use it as a light to read a book with XD

The Tuna is ridiculous even compared to other Seikos. I have a watches with Superluminova and Lumibrite and they are both bright and they both last through the night so that there is lume at daybreak. Lumibrite is fractionally brighter at the beginning and end but both do their jobs. Thanks for another great video Jory :)

That was a great video. I think a more fair match to make would be lumibrite vs C3 SL. The bgw9 is great lume in color and longevity but the C3 is better in brightness and Longevity. My Friends Seamaster 2254.50 would match any Seiko I had.

The real estate of the tuna's indices are bigger and green will always be warmer than blue. And these are not the only 2 players in the game, you should have thrown in a tritium powered watch into the mix

I think this every time I see a lume comparison, people almost always go in favor of the lume that has more surface area, 'ohh it's brighter!' technically no, it just has more lume surface area per section so it gives off a larger halo, but if you look at the lume itself it's often the same actual brightness. That being said, apparent brightness surely accounts for something.. nice video.

You only showed the loom for 5 minutes. It would be interesting to see what happens hour after hour along the night. Seiko loom is VERY bright first 10 minutes, but at the end of the night, it is not much brighter than my Citizen Fugu, for instance.

Looks like a fun evening 👍

Why don't they do this stuff and tritium?

I have a Tissot T Connect T Touch (orange numbers and black face) with Superluminova and a SEIKO (King Turtle Mantra save the ocean blue face) with Lumibrite and let me tell you SEIKO wins every time hands down! Awesome review 😁

You had me at torch xx

The Seiko is brighter, but I like more the colour of the superluminova

The Odyssea is much better looking. Love how you only see the tip of the second hand.

Oh my Jory! I see the top of it in this shot, and it's not really a stripper pole! 😲

Can't believe you've tested it for 1 minute

Honestly the superluminova looks nice to me. I wouldn't want my watch to glow too brightly. Feel like it would draw way too much attention but that might be because the Seiko has much larger markers and hands.

You sure that lumibrite is not radioactive ? 😂

Both of the lumes are amazing but the bluish effect is just 🔥

Have you ever don any Reactor watches?

I feel you should have compared regular superluminova yo lumibrite. The blue superluminova is in general weaker than the regular green. Just as the patina lume is weaker than any other color due to the way it can absorb uv

Dude the seikos luma brite is insane. I’d say it’s def brighter. even though the indices are bigger they become white when charged unlike the bg. Even if the Michael had big round indices I don’t think it will turn white like the tuna.

The lume on the Tuna is insane. I don't think I have a watch that has better lume than the Tuna. My experience with the BGw9 is that it is not as bright as the Lumibrite, but it does seem to have good longevity..

In this video comparison of SuperLuminova versus Lumibrite, the only reason that the watch on the right appears brighter in the dark than the watch on the left is because the watch markers and watch hands on the watch dial on the right are lumed with white lume which naturally makes that watch dial appear to be brighter than the blue-lumed watch hands and markers on the watch dial on the left. White lume on watch hands and/or markers always appears to be more vividly bright than green or blue lume. In other words, white lume naturally "stands out" more than blue or green lume on watch hands and markers.

Easy win for Seiko....the Odyssea is a handsome watch tho! Thanks for trying proper English for your British viewers, now just say aluminium instead of aluminum 😂👍👍

Green appears brighter do to our eyes picking up the wave length of green alot better... its one of the reasons why night vision goggles are always green... greets...

Can you compare with a Ball watch to anything? The Ball will be the standard by which all others are measured.

Awesome dude

I think much of the difference comes from the different colors as well as the marker sizes. Blue will always look dimmer than white.

Are you testing the watches or the luminous material? Because if you're trying to test/compare the actual luminosity of the luminous materials, then you need to apply them in the exact same amount across the exact same surface material, in the exact same pattern. Your test only compares the individual application of each luminous material to disparate surfaces and in different amounts in different patterns.

Undoubtedly the Seiko has a lot more lume so it isn't really a fair comparison. However, the lume pips on the second hands are approximately the same size and suggests the Seiko would still win a fair fight.

hello sir, maybe it is more fair comparison to compare the tuna with rolex sub with maxi dial in the future. the amount of lume is quite same to me. in my opinion. put aside the price point between those two watches. just for the sake of lume war. haha...

Not fair the Tuna is a beast

Impressive results, the Seiko did it for me...the blue lume is very nice and reminds me of moonlight for whatever reason. The green lume will always be stronger in my opinion. Nonetheless, a fantastic display for each watch. 🔥

Seiko for the win! Next time do a time lapse!

UV light charges them really quickly

Regarding what you said in beginning of film Regarding the Flash light In the UK its called a torch because it is a torch Its a constant light A lamp, or torch or spot light Its not called a flash light because it doesn't really get used to flash Like a camera has a flash light A maglite for example can be used to flash but its mainly used as a torch hence in the UK its called a torch. Nice one mate 😂

How many years does it last. If it's bright now but only lasts 5 to 10 years then it's useless.

While the brightness of the lume is important, I think the longevity/readability is more important. In a movie theater, I need a watch that will last at least two hours so I can read the time on my watch. Neither of these lumes will last this time frame. That is why I purchased a Ball watch with tritium gas tube lighting. The lume is never extremely bright with tritium, but you can read the time all night long.

Love that blue.

lol i think you should have done time lapse for this.

Try uv light

Lumabrite is the best I've encountered but I think the blue bgw9 looks cooler. I have a microbrand watch (Borealis Seastorm v2) with a healthy amount of bgw9 and it's probably the only watch in my collection that comes close to my newest seiko. It's not quite as good as lumabrite but it's still pretty impressive. I have a couple of seiko divers from the early and late 90s and the lume has diminished considerably over the years. I'm not sure if seiko changed their formula over the years or if it just loses its mojo over time but they're not even close to my newer seikos.

The human eye is the most sensitive to light in the green end of the spectrum. The camera might have a different peak in the color range.

Green lume will always be brighter and last longer than blue lume. The phosphorus is the green is more natural than in the blue, which makes it brighter and last longer.

The Seiko SKX/5KX lume easily beats the Submariner in both brightness and longevity. I have demonstrated it a few times. Not bad for watches costing a tiny fraction of the Sub.

Blue lume or bgw9 is easier to see or read when your eye adjusts to low light conditions. It takes an while for your eyes to adjust. Green lume will always look initially, more impressive. For telling the time at night in an dark room, bgw9 wins. But in semi low light conditions green lume is perfered.

The minute hands are very close in thickness, so I would say that the seiko lume is way better!

Why don't you go by the hands? They are more similar in size than the numerals. And your always going to get better brightness with green than with blue no matter what Lume you pick. So the test you have done is not a fair test in my book.

My Luminox tritium needs no other light source to brighten the hands. Tritium stays bright for years regardless of outside influence.

Conclusion...both good...!!!

Love that BGW9

I have many seikos and they’re all awesome but nothing beats tritium. It glows for 25 years without a flashlight. I have a Deep Blue Diver that can be used as a night light it’s so bright (which might be needed if you hit it’s 6000 feet max depth). And no you won’t get injured from radiation as much as people seem to believe smh. I’m really surprised more watch manufacturers don’t use tritium.

I like C3 better than BGW9. I feel like Seiko does too. Sure it's called Lumibrite, but I'd bet it's similar to C3. My opinion. I'm going with a Heimdallr SKX homage, for the C3 lume, and it's a better SKX than Seiko. 🤔

Seiko needs to make some blue lumibrite

Dude lmao you we’re funny in this video

You're very good. You're the top. Can I just suggest you lower your voice? Thank you. Keep it up!

I know what the heck you're talking about. This is my comment confirming as much.

Super Luminova is respectable, but Luminrite scores a KO!