Watching a battle report where the players are good sports and are having a good time makes all the difference.

Endless legions to bring a unit back is at the end of each players turn (both battleshock phases) as per the faq! That would've helped!

Waching optimised lists is really cool. But only when the opponent is also rocking a optimised list. Otherwise it's like watching baby seals get clubbed. (Figure of speech)

There’s only one thing missing from this battle….. Steve playing his goats…

Play whoever you want guys! You bounce around models enough to keep everyone content if not happy. Nice job

On the subject at the beginning about Lumineth being hard to please the fanbase. I'm definitely on the side that prefers to see a more fluff build than a top tier, 40 archer list. This list for example had a beautiful cavalry, and a great centerpiece model. as well as having some archers. So its just a nice variety, which is the spice of life.

Dawn riders get +2 attacks vs enemies without a mount and 1 wound. T

Hey Steve, the reason the loreseeker was unique is because of the second half of the Lone agent rule, as of the current ghb he’s in a grey area where they presumably forgot to make him unique again. Also the Eclypsian staff is a ranged weapon not a melee. Run the lists you want to play, pretty much everything in the book except the stoneguard is good! One thing I see a lot of people forget, the Dawnrider unit leader has both a sword and the lance, so you would get 15 dice with the lances vs 1 wound models

So many times 5 wound vampires just get wiped off. Vampire lords really are not feeling any stronger than your standard rank and file hero in AOS. As a SBGL player, I really hoped to see them give Vampires 7 wounds and/or a 5+ ward. The 3+ save is ok, but with so many mortals floating around AOS anymore, 5 wounds just feels really paper thin.

Steve looks like he's slimmed up a bit since the last time I watched. Looking good dude! 💜💚

Steve is probably one of the most charming people on YT. Humble, excited and always laughing

Love to see Lumineth on the channel. Please don't listen to the crowd, just play the list you want to play. Also, use the Lord Regent to cast Greater Power of Hysh first, that opens your other units up for casting mystic shield, arcane bolt, etc..

Oh snap, this was a great video! Really fun to watch guys, soulblight are my favourite undead theme, love me some medieval looking skeletons and vampires. Wish we’d get more on the lore wight kings with full on kingdoms that can rival vampires in power. Love the idea not all are enthralled to a vampire, kinda like Krell. Do you know what else would be a great series of videos? That’s right, A CHAOS CULT VS GENESTEALER CULT NARRATIVE CAMPAIGN!

Loreseekers are unique because in lore they are kinda outcasts from both teclian and tyronic nations and are more often out in the mortal realms doing solo missions. In game its cause it frees design up to have good artifacts and combat traits for vanari/scinari without it breaking on them

I am learning so much watching all these bat reps :) Just wanted to say that :D

I think you should house rule to always allow forgotten rules to be played after the fact. As a viewer it’s a real feel bad to watch characters like Mannfred not use his command ability because Luka doesn’t remember to use it at the correct time. I fully understand how tough it is when you play so many games, factions and lists so I think in those circumstances it’s more than reasonable to go back if you forget something. I don’t mind seeing toned down lists but those lists should be played to their fullest potential or it becomes a poor viewing experience. Luka, please try and use the Zombies to attack, skeletons are the objective holders and tarpit. Zombies should be buffed and sent in to combat, your damage dealers pretty much bounced because you had poor rend, the Zombies MW output would have made a big difference.

For the Grand Strategy: Why not Prized Sorcery for the Lumineth? All of your units are Wizards. That's more than the 4 Battleline. Just dont get tabled and you score the Grand Strategy.

Great game. Excellent Luka and Steve

Love seeing Teclis. Play whatever army build you like!

Emerald lifeswarm heals at SETUP and AFTER MOVING! So keep that in mind for basically 2d3 when you cast it onto board!

Really enjoyed this battle! I play both armies and I actually *do* think this was a fair battle. Very natural to forget a lot of rules. Especially with Lumineth there's so much to remember. One of the things I haven't seen anyone mention so far, Steve: remember that Wardens and Sentinels can only cast if they still have 5+ models. So your 3 model unit of Sentinels can no longer cast power of Hysh ;-)

nice game, thanks for the video

I like how manfred is always vibrating with excitement to kill elves

Dang Lumineth is crazy. I have been torn between on either getting the new Vanari Shining Host or Revenant Legion battle force boxes. Awesome game you two!

Looking good, Steve.

Come on Luka! Give us Nagash Vs Teclis already!

More Sigmar please guys 😁😁😁

Nice army love youre report's

This has nothing to do with the actual battle, but I just gotta say this. Steve, you look CRISP with a shaved head. That is all.

Have you tried 10 blade lords with the lore seeker, teclis can teleport them in a circle around him on an on objective and he can pass wounds off to them, might have tied up man Fred for 5 turns

Perfect!

Hey Steve, play whatever YOU want to play. Give us some cool endless spell focused armies. Give us some cool cav armies, or heavy duty infantry forces. Do whatever tickles your fancy on a given day. Fuck the haters. You’re an elf. You’re above such tomfoolery.

this match hero phase was just: POWER FISH POWER FISH POWER FISH POWER FISH POWER FISH Interrupted by grunts of pain from the other side of the table

Would like to see a similar battle again but with nagash and teclas on either side

Amusing, since he remembered it for the horse unit earlier, but forgot the archers were no longer a wizard. So no sunmetal, so the 5 doesn't cause a mortal wound to the vampire lord, so the vampire lord doesn't die to the horses. (Well, assuming he saved against the potential normal archer attack.) Not that it's a huge game changer overall, but interesting string of wounds.

Across two channels I don't think I've ever seen Lumineth lose.

You bring whatever realm lords list you want Steve I just like seeing their cool model

I think a unit who redeployed cannot unleash hell, but I might be wrong

Hi, Nice battle. Noticed power of hysh was done for units less than 5. Note that the leader is only a wizard if the unit has 5 models...

This seems fun

Should keep the current score in the top cornors, like TTT. Makes it easier to follow

Intense battle, worry yourself not Luka, remember Winning is for Losers 😉

I'm so jealous of these guys. I'd do anything to have a job playing or painting minis. I mean anything.

That was a fun game to watch. Teclis is awesome, and like with everything, if you like it, play it!

I personally don't care to watch games with optimized lists. To me, seeing an army's potential means setting everything it has to offer. I'd love to see more battle cattles, hurakan units, etc. Even if they're not powerful I think they're still cool.

Eltharion was from warhammer fantasy, he’s the high elf Batman who’s Grom the paunch’s arch nemesis

For such beautiful armies we barely get to see them with the top down view :/

Round 2 turn 1, I believe the archers couldn't unleash hell cause they redeployed in the same turn. Great vid and game guys!

personally i like seeing variety as long as it dose not turn in to a super one sided match from the get go keep up the good work guys. ill be honest thou Teclis just being able to do what he wants in the casting phase is why i dont like him since the player just says what he wants to do and it happens if he just had a +2 to cast and dispel i dont think people would be that mad about him its not fun when you are not given a chance to counter play

Finally an AOS battle report

its becuase of his teleport and hold an ejective no matter what til he dies. that is why loreseeker is treated like he is for match play

Steve and Luka video!

Missing the archer and vargheist battleshocks at the end of soulblight turn 2 was a pretty big deal..

He guys great to see another lumineth match. Couple of questions though. In round 1 did the loreseeker use his missile attack (or did it fail to make it into the final edit). Also in round 1 when returning slain models (fight with the dawnriders) they need to be within a inch of a model that was not returned but it looked like they were added more on one side? Anyways keep up the good work.

This was a fun watch, but I think that SBGL list is over the points limit. 2145 is what it adds up to when I do some quick math. I might be wrong, but I just wanted to point that out. Sorry if it's incorrect.

I'd say lists without Teclis are scarier than Teclis lists. It's kinda like Nagash in OBR- the faction as a whole is so strong that dropping the god for more spears/archers is usually the scarier bet. So dont blame yourself that Gdubs made a faction that *cant* make a friendly list

Steve i really like your list more hobby oriented and not only tournanent list , the optimized list are powerful yeah, but not cool to watch :)

Steve play what you want man

Why did you never use Mannfred's Command ability? That wouldve been super play with him teleporting in giving the blood knights +1/+1

"powerfish, powerfish, powerfish"

The loreseekers staff is a missile weapon - i didnt think you could use a missile weapon in the combat phase?

It’s fine to play with an army set-up you like, and Teclis isn’t worse than many of the other big heroes right now. It’s cool to see him from time to time on the channel. That also looked like a fun list. I also love the paint scheme of both of those armies. But it would be great if there were less mistakes with the Lumineth. Just the first battle: the Loreseeker staff is a missile weapon, and the Dawnriders would have gotten 15 lance attacks, 4 sword attacks and 20 horse attacks with 1 unit. So likely those Skellies would have been a pile of bones. Get those reps in : ) 👍

Oh, Teclis again.

The Loreseeker is unique because they never show up together is all.

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Sadly Luka your army is 2145 points............

Personally I really enjoy high powered lists, as long as both lists are strong lol

I was watching an old video and u said something about deep striking, did you know that scinari lore seekers can deepsrike to a degree

4:48 well yeah. Sentinals are even more stupidly undercosted than teclis. Lumineth just needs to be rewritten to adhere to some core rules.

with loreseeker IF he stays non-unique then indeed flaming sword is bloody awesome. If errata for GHB will put him back to unique then can't use flaming sword.

How do you come on only 4 drops with the SBGL?

Let’s see Teclis vs Nagash

So loreseeker under the GHB rules is in a grey area about unique. Technically in GHB he isn't unique in his pitch battle profiles and in the FAQs he is referenced as unique but not actually set as unique.

Can’t imagine why people don’t like playing against Realm lords… I cast - No you don’t Ok I wound 4 times No you don’t Ok then pass turn I guess

Lumineth armies simply do not lose against anything other than Idoneth.

At 1:13:44 burning simoon if casted on 10 u do mw on 5+ for each model in the unit u target. Isn't that a better pick?

Does anyone know where they get there movement traits from?

Run it back!

Do slyvan wildwoods with leaves actually exist anywhere?

Why couldn't Mannfred teleport in the first battle? His rule is if enemy models are within 3" and they had to be within 3" to pile in, or have I missed something?

do you guys ever do matches without named heroes?

I personally don’t see the point in playing the army to its fullest potential when most of the time, you guys play random lists anyway. It’s more interesting to see you guys switch things and try lists that most people wouldn’t think of. It may not be the best, but at least you know your opponent isn’t playing something that will run over you. I say keep playing the way y’all want but I wouldn’t mind seeing luka bringing nothing but stalkers and morghasts from OBR to face off 3-4 of the mountain cows from lumineth

also the way the shields are worded its +1 to save not setting it at a 4 so they can at best be at a 5+ even in legion of nights bonus or with all out defense

elf op gg

Am I the only one hearing "Power of Fish"?

Power fish!!!

There is no battleshock aura spell for lumineth.

Wonder how Lord Kroak would do against the T-Pose God

These fragile models look awesome but they really stress me out

Just gunna throw this out @Steve play whatever you want man have fun with it theres alot of good options in realm lords none of which are broken despite what people say. Its one of those armies for content creation id talk over lists with opponents pregame make sure there an understanding in power level but beyond that just have fun. 40 archers can do work or you run into other good magic armies that turn off power of hysh and lambent light then your dmg just falls off the deep end for 600pts of your army... If you get the chance try some of the wind temple or alarith temple units theyre alot of fun and shouldnt generate as much internet hate as long as it isnt like 3 wind spirits with 3 allied allopexes.... If you read this comment leme know I can toss ya a link to the lrl discord we talk up fun list ideas all the time.

When Manfred kill a model he also buff +1a for units within 12 in right ?

While I understand why you don't want to bring 40 sentinels, you could still bring 20 (either 1x20 or 2x10). This would show off some of their power without being overpowered. But keep up the fun lists! :)

That Gravelords list is 2145 points.

can someone explain to me what these ward saves are that they are doing? I can't find them in my rulebook...am I blind or is it some houserule or something? Edit: Nevermind, Found it, it's one of the boons fromt he Gravesite markers

Kath-Alar

I promise the vast majority of people don't want to see archer spam in any list. It is the meager few that want *omg why isn't your list tournament ready?!*

Also in the GHB the looreseeker isn’t unique so you can give him artefacts

How to know competitive players from casual. Teclis is broken /op / under costed etc. 😄 Lrl gatekeep the top tables. But sadly are always the bridesmaid never the bride. Just imagine if he dropped teclis and threw a tiny angry dorf and what ever lol. The rage you would see. Play what makes you happy. Haters going to hate.

i watch MWG for the personalities and the fun, if I wanted to watch 2 optimised lists go at each other i wouldn't be watching MWG

if you don't want to get flakk for playing realm lords why not just go for the stone army?